Newcastle’s Likely Squad – Who Else Do We Need?


For this article we are going to assume that we have Joey Barton, Mark Viduka, David Rosehnal, Leighton Baines, Derek Boateng and Tal Ben Haim at the club.
Barton and Viduka have arrived and we are fairly confident we can get the remaining four players in – some imminently.
We will now look at the squad we have and ask the question – who else to we need?

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Sam Allardyce

We have let go – Srnicek, Onyewu, Bramble, Moore, Bernard, Sibierski and Parker. Albert Luque has also gone to PSV for a season long loan.
We have received £7M for Parker.
Let’s also assume that each of the players we bring in cost the following:
Viduka (free), Barton (£5.5M), Ben Haim (free), Baines (£5M) Boateng (£0.7M), Rosehnal (£3.3M) for a total of £14.5M.
So we’ve spent a net of £7.5M to amass the following squad – note the new players are the ones not wearing the Newcastle shirt (that seems to makes sense):

Goalkeepers:

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Given, Harper, Krul

Good goalkeepers but we feel we may need to send out Krul on loan for a year or two to give him the vital playing experience he needs – just like Manchester United did with Ben Foster – so we may still need to being in a third goalkeeper.

Full Backs:

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Solano, Dyer, Carr, Baines, Babayaro

We’ve put both Solano and Dyer in this group because Sam has said he may play Dyer there and Solano played well for us there last season. So we may not need a right back – and think Carr and Babayaro may be surplus to requirements – especially if we bring in another full-back.

Center Backs:

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Taylor, Ramage, Ben Haim, Rosehnal

Ben Haim can also play full back as can Taylor and Ramage – through their best positions are central defense. Huntington and Edgar may need to be sent out on loan for a year or two to give them vital playing experience – they both can also play at full back.
Think we are OK for central defense now?


Central Midfield:

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Butt, Barton, Emre, Pattison, Boateng

Two defensive midfielders in Butt and Boateng – and two attacking ones in Barton and Emre. Not sure if Pattison fits in here – he will have to show himself next season if he wants to remain at Newcastle. This at least looks balanced right now.

Wingers:

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Duff, N’Zogbia, Milner, O’Brien

Of course we can also play Solano and Dyer here but it looks like we may need another right winger. Maybe Freddie Ljungberg or Dimitri Payet could fit the bill there?
Also – this will be a vital season for O’Brien if he wants to stay at Newcastle – he has shown class and pace playing for Ireland – and will have to show that next season for Newcastle – but he looks to be third choice at left wing. Wolves have always been interested in him and there is news today they may want to sign him.

Strikers:

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Ameobi, Owen, Martins, Viduka

Wow – that looks like a potent strike force to us – we have experience – two big men and two smaller goal pinchers – a good combination. We also have 18 year old Andy Carroll – who looked very good last year – maybe he needs to go out on loan to get playing experience?

Well that’s what we think we have right now – some areas are looking good – other areas still need more players coming in.

But we really need your help on this.Let us know what you think of the current squad (assuming those transfers happen) and then let us know who else needs to be brought in.

Hey – maybe Sam will look at this and get a few ideas ……………. OK just kidding. 😀


64 comments so far

  • Jam

    Jun 8, 2007 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #41

    THOSE WHO SAY GIVEN IS NOT IN THE SAME CLASS AS PETR CECH ARE COMPLETE IDIOTS. Given has performed unbelievabley over the years with, lets face it, one of the worst defensive line ups in the league. Petr Cech has an awesome defense in front of him. Lets be honest, the times Given has saved our behinds are countless. He is quite honestly one of the best goalkeppers in the premiership!!!

    I don’t know if the defenders we are bringing in will have that presence that Terry has at Chelsea, or Rio has at Man U or even carrahger at liverpool. Look at the teams who have done exceptionally well, they all have an absolute quality CB. Johnny Woodgate filled that position, shame with his injuries.

    Overall, for a team that i think should be good enough for Champions league football, there is a lot of … chaff in the squad. Some of those players just aren’t up to it and it is about time we bring in some WORLD CLASS PLAYERS if possible. Teams should fear us when they have us at the weekend!!!!! Come on Newcastle!!!!

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jun 8, 2007 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #42

    Jam – Given is the best goalkeeper ever at Newcastle – no doubt about that. He’s saved us on countless occasions throughout the years – and we think he’s improving if anything – as he gets older.

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  • joe

    Jun 8, 2007 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #43

    How can you call given? He is the best shot stopper in the premiership. He would probably be labelled best in the world if he played for chelsea and man u. P.S. Who the hell is pepe ranier. You sure you don’t mean pepe reina.

    and who are these people living in a dream world and naming messi, robben, jouquin etc. why would they leave BARCELONA, CHELSEA, VALENCIA to play for a team not in europe.
    It is going to take time, two or three seasons to go from finishing 13 to top 4.
    Then you think of players like that.
    People are being naive if they think ashley will spend his money like abromavich did.

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  • Jam

    Jun 8, 2007 at 8:39 PM

    Comment #44

    Joe – i agree completeley. Ashley isn’t as rich as Abramovich either. Ambromovich doesn’t seem to care about how his money is used. It would be nice to find the next “big” thing in terms of the players who everyone will be talking about in a few years time. Zoggy may be one of those, and Milner is a large possibilty too…would like to bring in a few more like! ;-P

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  • The Big P

    Jun 8, 2007 at 9:23 PM

    Comment #45

    I haven’t read all of the comments, though some seem a bit skwiff, Given is and has been one of the best and most consistent keepers in the prem.
    I have the confidence that Alleydice will be the opposite to Glen and will bring the best out of 95% of the players at least. Carr and Baba were not the only under performers under Glen (and that other bloke before him). With the team that we have under alleydice (including those additions presumed to be in the bag) we will do exceptionally well.
    Alleydice is a great man manager, we will see that next season in the players that had become dead weight. I could be wrong of course.

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  • briss

    Jun 8, 2007 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #46

    I think Carr did terrible last season he was useless. all he did was destroy the flow the game. we should sell him and pick up hopefully big same can adjust his playing style when he has the ball. WE SHOULD BUY “BASTIAN SCHWEINSTEIGER”! a solid 22 year old german international central midfielder with a rocket for a boot. him along side barton in the midfield with dyer and milner on the wings. ruthless! we should maybe think about 5 mid fielders becuase Butt is a good defensive mid too

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  • Clouded

    Jun 8, 2007 at 9:56 PM

    Comment #47

    We should try and sign Per Ciljan Skjelbred in my opinion. Very good norwegian attacking midfielder who is only 20 i believe and already a international player. Whilst on the topic of norwegian players, maybe we should try getting Kristoffer Hæstad aswell

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  • jamo

    Jun 8, 2007 at 10:07 PM

    Comment #48

    I’ve heard quite alot about us being linked with crouch??… would be good to see in the squad, massively underrated but when plays for england links up well and has great footwork! To bad we couldnt have scouted berbatov before spurs 🙁 would fit in well. I’m an attacking minded person so not really in the knowledge with defenders but in midfield i think mascherano would be a very good replacement for parker. I don’t think he would be to expensive either. Anyone else thinking this?

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  • The Big P

    Jun 8, 2007 at 10:16 PM

    Comment #49

    If our midfield contained on form duffy, barton, butt and milner playing the ball to vid,owen and martins, we will score goals and we should maintain possesion well. Also having a bench containing solano,emre,zog and boateng should put our one sided attack well in the past. It has been suggested that Dyer could go back to an (obviously attacking) right back role which i can see working. The center is obviously much much stronger and baines would take up the left side. I really can only see adding to such a squad as being an insurance policy, we are not chelsea or man u and great players will not come to this club to sit on the bench. Also the young players need their chance Carrol, Pattison, Ramage.
    Roll on the start of the season!!! Fortress St. James!!!!!!

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  • wizu

    Jun 9, 2007 at 12:36 AM

    Comment #50

    If ti were up to me the team would look something like this

    given

    carr /dyer taylor ben haim shorey

    butt barton
    emre
    luque martins owen

    most probably half of the people who bothered reading this must be saying, what the hell is wrong with this guy! well here is what i think about my formation! given no doubt there! without enough backup considering we have harper, and of need be krul(but i think its more beneficial for him to go out on loan!)
    then in defence we got carr who if u ask me is up to standard and showed some solid games! if u ask me he was only shaky cause of people round him like bramble, the worst player ever. If he still doesnt perform we got dyer who would give us more off an attackig option from right back! as for solano, sorry but stop illuding urselfs! centre backs ben haim ant taylor(who i think is going to be the next jihn terry if not better, best defender if seen for a long time!) with rozenhal on the bench and also ramage i think were covered! but if its possible id go for someone like thuram who would add a lot of experience to our back 4 and taylor could learn a thing or two from him! plus i dont think it should be too difficult to get him as he isnt getting much play time with barca! at left back i put shorey as i think we should splash the cash on a player like him! i havent seen such a good performance at right back for england in….. well actually i think thats the best right back performance england has ever had, if u consider against who they played and that it was his debut! as for baines well i guess hes second best and if we do get him, bye babs not needed at all nothing but disappointing hes been! i’d play duff and zog at left back before it give baba another chance!
    in the middle i’d play with 1 defencive midfielder being but a pure midfielder with offencive qualities being barton, and a genius on the ball behind our 3 strikers being emre who would supply our fowards with great through balls considering the pace we’d have up front! as for boateng get him as cover for butt play him a few timses and sell him for 10 times the figure we got him for! and pattison sell or loan him. honestly i dont know cause he seems to give his best every time he plays but he isnt up to prem standards so i think i’d sell him sorry mate! up front i’d have two wide plaers and a central striker, with the two wide players being luque and owen and oba the loan striker! liek this we could base our game on the counter attack and play great throuhg balls and score with the finishing of the likes of owen martins and the majorly under rated luque! luque was and still is my idol! when we signed him it was the happiest day of my life! when he used to play in spain he was a god, a player everyone wanted, and still is wanted till today! explain this to me, how can a top calub like psv want him and we reject him! this is a team that reache d the quater final of champions league in the last 3 years, something that we only dream about! luque just needs to revive his career and who can do it better but big sam! person who is know to do so! lok and ivan campo and anelka! as for owen and martins there performances say enough! as for all the othe r players meaning, milner i,d keep could play instead of luque or owen if any get injured, same for duff and zog and even o’brien! ameobi i’d get rid of ass there is no way hes going to play and i’d rather give a chance to caroll who seems to be a very hot prospect, one ofr the future. as for viduka i guess he’ll be a good sub and can play the lone striker role! huntington should be loaned as hes got potential too!
    I think with our squad like that we could give a very good challange for a top 5 placing.
    If i could get any other players they would have to be lucas neil who would add adequate cover at right back and that would be setled and i would also get ljunberg who is a top class player and would only do good for our team, and could play instead of luquue who looks like hes on the way out!

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  • jim

    Jun 9, 2007 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #51

    newcastle still need pace at left and right back. I dont rate babayarro or carr and salano has not got pace. although we (fans) have been saying for years that we need a strong back 4 Im sure Sam will sort this out. good times to come AT LAST EH?

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  • henry

    Jun 9, 2007 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #52

    AT RIGHT BACK WE SHOULD GET VANDEN BORRE FROM ANDERLECT HE’S AMAZIN CAN PLAY ON THE RIGHT WING AND AT CENTER BACK WE SHOULD ALSO TRY FOR VINCENT KOMPANY THE BOTH BETTER THEN ALL OR CURENT DEFENDERS!

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  • henry

    Jun 9, 2007 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #53

    THE TEAM SHOULD BE THIS BY THE END OF THE SUMMER

    GIVEN
    VANDEN BORRE KOMPANY TAYLOR BAINES

    BARTON BUTT
    MILNER DUFF/N’ZOGBIA/LUQUE

    VIDUKA/MARTINS OWEN/CROUCH

    THIS TEAM WOULD GET US IN THE TOP FOUR EASILY , I WOULD BRING IN A NEW LEFT WINGER IF DUFF ND N’ZOGBIA OR LUQUE ARNT PREFORMING BUT WERE GUNNA HAVE 2 GIVE THEM A CHANCE

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  • LIAM J

    Jun 9, 2007 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #54

    this is my team with players i think we should buy:

    GIVEN

    ROZEHNAL BEN HAIM TAYLOR

    DUFF EMRE BARTON BUTT MILNER

    OWEN MARTINS

    Subs:
    HARPER
    SOLANO
    VIDUKA
    RAMAGE
    N’ZOGBIA

    OR

    GIVEN

    ROZEHNAL BEN HAIM TAYLOR

    EMRE BARTON BUTT MILNER

    VIDUKA OWEN MARTINS

    Subs:
    HARPER
    SOLANO
    DUFF
    RAMAGE
    N’ZOGBIA

    POSSABLE CAPTIANS:
    GIVEN
    BUTT
    BARTON
    TAYLOR
    OWEN

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  • Graham Lishman

    Jun 9, 2007 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #55

    I think John Mcooe is getting too much sun.. Messi? Theres more chance of me playing in black and white next year!

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  • matt

    Jun 9, 2007 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #56

    i would like to see Nicky Shorey at newc next yr. i belive e to be a better defender than Baines but either is better than Babs who shouldnt be anywhere near the teamsheet.

    Right back is a problem, Richards will be best option but he will not be cheap at all. cant see solano or dyer playing in this position either.

    centre backs of Taylor, Hiem and Rosehnal will be substancial

    would like to see butt captain if he is still there, in midfield partnership with barton and boateng (barton being attacking support for front man)

    wide strikers can be any of the wingers avalible

    i am concerned about duff and his ability to stay fit for patch of consecutive games, if doesnt improve, oust him get in someone fitter and with the extra pace this i feel duff has lost

    i think viduka is a must to start upfront with owen with martins as sub for owen (or replacement if owen goes in the summer or jan 2008)
    ameobi will be replacement but i do belive that if i was being very critical, e should be sold as e doesnt seem to be performing to prem level.

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jun 9, 2007 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #57

    matt – Shorey looked great for England against Brazil – he looked so comfortable and it was his first game. If N’Zogbia does as well as we think he will next season we could probably sell Duff in January. good comments though.

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jun 9, 2007 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #58

    Liam J – just don’t think Owen and Martins will make a good twosome up front – they are too similar. I think Viduka may start more games than we think – and we’ll see how Ameobi does – now he’s fit. Like Butt as captain but wouldn’t mind Shay Given at all.

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jun 9, 2007 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #59

    wizu – think this coming season top 6 is an absolute must – otherwise we’ve failed (just like we all said last season – including Roeder). If we can make top 5 that would be great. Will be interesting to see how our injuries go next season – we are all expecting them to be down significantly – and we don’t know exactly what the squad will be – think Sam is getting people in quickly while he can – and also before the prices go up – because of Ashley. Big Sam has surprised us since he joined – the interviews he gives come across great – he’s a thinking guy – and knows what he’s talking about.

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  • doug

    Jun 9, 2007 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #60

    The (imminent) signing of Barton got me thinking. He brings a fighting, make that winning mentality. It’s an essential ingredient in defenders and midfielders (strikers just need to be egotistic). Do Carr, Babyyahoo, Dyer, Emre have it? I think not. However, Dyer is easily influenced so lets hope Barton frightens him into performing.

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  • phil

    Jun 10, 2007 at 6:31 AM

    Comment #61

    We need a right back. Dyer, Solano and Carr are not good enough in that position. If Duff performs we don’t need anyone on the left – assuming that it, that Zog still wants to play for us.

    Given

    TBA (O’Neill/Wes Brown?) Taylor Ben Haim Baines

    Milner Butt (C) Barton Duff/Zog/ANother

    Big/little combo up front

    looks like a good team, we still need some creative class in the midfield though. get rid of emre and see who we can get to fit in there

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  • Beastie

    Jun 10, 2007 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #62

    surely big sam can see that ameobi is crap!!! give him to sunderland!

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  • matt w

    Jun 10, 2007 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #63

    i was watching Real Zaragoza the last night and the argie Pablo Aimar looked brilliant, created the 2nd goal alone with a strong, direct run at the heart of Madrids defence, would be a step up from Emre as an extra creative flair in the final 3rd

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  • nightfall

    Jun 12, 2007 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #64

    emre for appiah

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