Gartside Furious at Newcastle Raid on Bolton Staff


Bolton Wanderers chairman Phil Gartside is reported in the Mirror this morning as being absolutely furious with Sam Allardyce about Newcastle’s raid on the Lancashire club’s back-room staff.

We’ll take a look at this situation but it’s hardly surprising and shows the impact Sam had at Bolton while he was there – plus his team building and bond-building capabilities.

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Gartside and Allardyce at Bolton

Sam Allardyce plans to recruit almost a third of the staff he put together at Bolton over the last eight years – and you can bet they are the best third of that staff. Most of Sam’s targets have reportedly handed their notice in over the last few days. It does look as though all this was agreed some time ago – to be put into action once pre-season training got under way.

Having had some practical experience of this at IBM – when key and well liked executives leave – they usually take their major lieutenants with them to the new company. While it obviously makes the previous company angry – there’s really not much they can do about it – although there have been some renowned law cases that have emanated from some of these moves.

Unluckily for Bolton it shows how Allardyce was the major mover and shaker at Bolton and his strong and persuasive personality that oversaw the Lancashire club for eight years will make it difficult for new manager Sammy Lee next season. It will also – as we are seeing – make it difficult for Chairman Gartside. One reason it is thought that Sam did eventually leave Bolton was that he felt unappreciated for all the great work he had carried out at the club.

Phil Gartside is apparently raging at the mass defection, which comes despite talk of a “hands off” agreement with Allardyce, who quit as Bolton manager in April and signed on at Newcastle in mid-May. Two of the most publicized defections are Mark Taylor – Head of Sports Science and Medicine – and Mike Forde the Performance Director. Both are expected to take up these positions in the next few says at Newcastle.

These are the things that happen when managers change clubs and while it is great for the Magpies – you can appreciate it is annoying to both Bolton management and their fans. Unfortunately that’s how things are in business – and we all know football is now a business – a huge global business in fact.

Comments on this situation are welcome.



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26 comments so far

  • joe

    Jul 2, 2007 at 1:37 PM

    Comment #1

    Yep, obviously Sammy Lee wasn’t the major player that gartside has stated he was. It’s clear that Big Sam is the man who can demand loyalty and get it. Bolton are a sinking ship. NUFC are on a one way ticket to the Top 6!

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jul 2, 2007 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #2

    joe – he’s obviously going to do the same thing at Newcastle – and it will make Mike Ashley think twice if he ever thinks of firing Sam – of course we all hope Sam is successful – starting next season – and this never comes up.
    There’s also obvious bitterness coming from Bolton – which you can understand.

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  • Chris

    Jul 2, 2007 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #3

    As a Bolton fan, I did have some remaining respect for Big Sam, mainly because of the job he has done for us, taking us from a mid-table Division 1 team to a top 8 Premier League one in 4 years and keeping us there.

    But the way he left has disappointed us, stating he “wanted a break”, he was appointed as your manager less than two weeks later, obviously you’d feel the same as we do if a manager did that to you.

    But the little respect I had for him went when I read his quotes on Saturday morning, so much for him and our chairman Phil Gartside being best friends, he’s taking our staff which is also a worry, but hopefully Sammy Lee can bring in the right replacements.

    And although I have nothing against Newcastle, as long as Allardyce is in charge, I hope you fail miserably and get a manager who can be respected instead, and maybe once again push on for the European places you deserve.

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  • Ben

    Jul 2, 2007 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #4

    what does gartside look like in that picture …. he knew it was going to happen he should just shut it and get on with boltons life after sam

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  • Phil

    Jul 2, 2007 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #5

    It makes you laugh when you look at the Bolton message boards and see such bitterness and hatred towards BSA. As without him they would be languishing in championship mediocrity now rather than being consistent over achievers.

    Will be interested in seeing how they fair but unlike the song the way i can see a remix of “the only way is down”.

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  • Dave

    Jul 2, 2007 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #6

    Yeh, they’d have done it to us, all things reversed. I’m certainly not going to lose ANY sleep on this one. In fact I might even have a celebratory beer 🙂

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  • valle

    Jul 2, 2007 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #7

    Ed… One thing that also works in Sam favour is the fact that newxastle are in another dimension to bolton if u disregard the standings the last couple of years. It must be more prestigius to have your buisiness card say Newcastle United than Bolton Wanderers so you cant say for sure if the same thin would happen if he ever left us. it would also depend on the new managers ideas and whether Sam got another top job.

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  • valle

    Jul 2, 2007 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #8

    pardon the spelling… =/

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  • Cicero

    Jul 2, 2007 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #9

    Like you say Ed this thing happens in business, I’ve done it myself in the past. These people know who was the ‘Man’ at Bolton and it certainly wasn’t little Sam. My concern is that if BSA is really successful at NUFC England come sniffing around and take not only the manager but also key members of staff. Should we not be tying them down to some sort of contract so that they can’t leave without NUFC receiving compensation, again not unusual in business.

    Another thing that concerns me is that if Sam leaves in the future the whole infrastructure and organisation he is developing gets thrown up in the air with the arrival of a new manager. It seems to me that the really successful continental clubs have an infrastructure in place that is independent of the ‘Coach’ so that when they change the whole organisation isn’t thrown in to turmoil.

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  • David

    Jul 2, 2007 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #10

    You lot honestly!

    Sam is at Newcastle United and that’s that… why are you all jumping ahead and talking about if’s and buts!

    This is what happened in the article about Edmilson, questioning his commitment when 1, He’s not a Newcastle player. And 2, If he was then he hasn’t even played a game to prove he’s committed

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jul 2, 2007 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #11

    Chris – i would feel the same way as you do – if the situation was reversed – in all honesty.

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jul 2, 2007 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #12

    David – what else is there to do at this time of year?
    Of course we are going into the ifs and buts – the reality for us Geordie fans hasn’t bee too good for quite a few years!

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  • David

    Jul 2, 2007 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #13

    Ed – It’s looking better that is has in years, signings as early as this! I honestly think I’m dreaming – Sam is doing wonders already and he’s only started.

    “TOON” “TOON” – every body now.

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  • Todd

    Jul 2, 2007 at 4:10 PM

    Comment #14

    One would think there would be non-disclosure non-compete agreements in place on manager’s contracts which would restrict them from taking staff with them to other clubs in the event the manager leaves to a competitor. Perhaps English law disfavors such clauses or incoming managers refuse to sign them.
    I don’t see Bolton falling apart anytime soon though, the club has momentum (thanks to Allardyce and Co.) so they will continue to be a club nobody looks forward to playing.
    As for all the enthusiasm surrounding the current going’s on at Newcastle, I say take it easy and don’t get too excited. There is no prize for ‘winning the offseason.” I should know, I am a lifetime Washington Redskins fan also, and they win the offseason every year…
    Nevertheless, a couple more good defensive signings and some cohesive management and the Magpies could be downright great. Here’s hoping for the best!
    Cheers

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  • ryan

    Jul 2, 2007 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #15

    Im a Bolton fan and only have respect for BSA.after 8 fantastic years I dont know how people can call him.Newcastle will be challenging Arsenal for 4th spot,that Im sure of!

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  • Gary

    Jul 2, 2007 at 5:11 PM

    Comment #16

    I don’t think there would be this mass clear out at NUFC if BSA left. BSA isn’t the only thing that is attracting these people to us. As was mentioned previously was the name itself, not too mention we were just taken over by a billionaire. It’s not very often in any business you get the chance to jump into a great ting on the ground floor, and thats exactly what people are doing.

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  • dan

    Jul 2, 2007 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #17

    dont forget the bung enquire isnt over yet he could still find himself going to jail

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jul 2, 2007 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #18

    dan – nothing like being positive.

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  • Todd

    Jul 2, 2007 at 6:34 PM

    Comment #19

    Dan,
    I was in Torino a month ago and I support Torino, NOT Juventus, which was cause for much ribbing and coarse language around the empty-wine bottle strewn table. Torino was one of the world’s best in their heyday (before the tragic plane crash that wiped out the team) and now that Torino is terrible it was easy for the Juventus folks to give me a tough time. When I said that Juve was only great because they cheated I got the same response every time. “Yes Juve cheats, everybody in football cheats, we were just the best at it!” and everyone would laugh. I think the bung thing is the same issue, the world of agents and transfers and kickbacks and all that is really shadowy, legally gray and completely pervasive. If they put BSA in jail, they are going to have to build a new jail for all the other folks they will be obliged to put in there with him.

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  • Nicci

    Jul 2, 2007 at 6:56 PM

    Comment #20

    First of all, Bolton have nothing to complain about. They have had a very good manager for the past eight years. He’s moved on to a new challenge, no different to what footballers do. Sam hasn’t taken any backroom staff from Bolton, i’m sure they are big enough and wise enough to make they’re own decisions in life. As for us (Newcastle) finishing in the top four, let’s not get too excited. just wait and see. I would like to wish Bolton good luck for next season, but i don’t think little Sam is anywhere near big Sam. Let’s just wait and see where we al are by Christmas. I have to admit i can’t wait for the season to start as we have made some good signings…………..but so have other clubs.

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  • Darren

    Jul 2, 2007 at 9:29 PM

    Comment #21

    Does anyone have a view on Matty Pattinson reportedly handing in a transfer request?

    Personally I don’t rate him at all, and that includes seeing him playing for the reserves.

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  • jeff

    Jul 2, 2007 at 11:09 PM

    Comment #22

    Dos’ent gartside look like a king charles spanial puppy thats just had a good hard boot up its arse,in the picture above.somene as ugly as that should stay away from cameras…..magnusson take note!

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  • jeff

    Jul 2, 2007 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #23

    Darren i whole heartedly agree! Matty Pattison is ginger! and for this reason alone,he must go!

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  • Ian Davies

    Jul 3, 2007 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #24

    Bolton fan here.

    All Allardyce has ever wanted is the England job. Triple fact.

    He’ll be thinking Newcastle are a big enough club to provide the springboard to it. He was never going to get it while he was manager at (little old) Bolton no matter how successful he was.

    With Allardyce as your new manager, you can expect to win a lot more football matches. It won’t always be pretty, and if he stays there long enough, no doubt you’ll eventually start to tire of it. Whether you stick with him depends on whether you’re a style or results orientated crowd.

    Expect small to medium size improvements year on year, don’t expect miracles. Expect to sign only proven, international class players. Expect to play the same style and system, irrespective of the opposition. Expect to get excited by corners and free kicks!

    As far as the ‘mass exudos’ from the Reebok is concerned, It’s to be expected. Always happens when a manager moves clubs and Allardyce assembled such a large backroom staff that’s it’s only to be expected that a large part of them would move with him.

    The processes are still in place, so It’s just a matter of Bolton finding the right replacements, keeping the good things Sam implemented and bringing in fresh ideas and approaches from the new manager.

    I’ll be interested to see how BSA gets on. He’ll be remembered by me as a great manager, who did wonders for the club, but who’s departure left a sour taste in the mouth.

    By the way, I don’t think this bickering between your manager and our chairman covers either of our clubs in any glory and personally I wish they’d both stop bickering like a couple of girls and get on with it.

    Oh and one more thing. One thing Sam loves is his name in the paper. Rentagob of the highest order. This isn’t bitterness talking now, we all said it while he was here. You name it, he’s got an opinion on it.

    Best of luck with the new season. I can honestly only see Sams appointment being a good thing for you (just give him a bit of time and don’t fire him after 2 seasons if he’s not won the Champions League), oh and cross your fingers that Steve McLaren keeps the England job!

    Ian – Melbourne

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  • Greg

    Jul 3, 2007 at 12:30 AM

    Comment #25

    Yep pattison is pants, good riddance

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jul 3, 2007 at 2:16 AM

    Comment #26

    Ian – nice comment – thanks!

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