Sam Forms Bond with N’Zogbia – He’s Going Nowhere


It has been reported for the last couple of days that various clubs – including West Ham and Bolton – are interested in our young left winger Charles N’Zogbia – who has looked a great player in the making while at Newcastle – except for last season.

While most fans thought Charles would leave the club in the summer for pastures anew – probably Arsenal – Sam Allardyce seems to have already weaved his magic with the quiet young 21 year-old Frenchman.

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Charles N’Zogbia

We have thought that two players who could benefit most from Sam Allardyce’s tenure at Newcastle would be Charles N’Zogbia and Oba Martins. The reason being that both players are young and both need some – dare we say it – fatherly help – to allow them to mature to their potential – which in both cases is great.

Now we hear that N’Zogbia is being tracked by West Ham after they captured Craig Bellamy yesterday for ₤7.5M. But we feel there is no way that Sam will let N’Zogbia go anywhere next season. The reports are that Sam has already formed a bond with the youngster and we hear that Charles was giving a full 100% in training last week in Austria. Isn’t it strange how some good man-management can bring out the best in players – especially youngsters.

Roeder did not have a good relationship with Charles and probably used him as a scapegoat for a number of Newcastle’s under- achieving performances towards the end of last season. Probably a bit unfair to take it out on a youngster rather than one of the more experienced players. However, it’s the old adage in management that you get what you expect out of people.

With Damien Duff injured through the end of this year Charles will no doubt get an opportunity to come out and show Sam what he is capable of – and we think he’s going to do just fine. We also think this is good news for Newcastle and look for other players who will have a resurgence and look much better next season under the tutelage of Big Sam – master motivator.

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15 comments so far

  • jeff

    Jul 11, 2007 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #1

    Nzogbia was another case of bad man management from Roeder along with Luque…..Roeder was a disgrace to both players…Id really love to see both players have cracking seasons and for Big Sam to turn around and say Newcastle struggled last season with an injury list longer than Northumberland street but you still wouldnt play a top spanish international who cost the club 10 million Id love to see it happen cos it was shocking what Roeder was doing to both players.

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  • Lew Davies

    Jul 11, 2007 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #2

    Jeff- 100% spot on M8.
    Dont want the Zog to go anywhere. Was defo looking class until the rodent took over.
    Disappointed to hear Beye is not coming to the Toon. Not surprised though, as he wants CL, and we cant offer even uefa this year. Last season coming back to haunt us yet again.
    I am sure if we had been in europe in any form, we probably would have gotten sidwell and ben haim too.
    Its alright MA saying he wants to bring a big name to NUFC but its another thing actually getting them to sign. Not ALL players are motivated just by money, and the ones who are, are usually passed their best anyway, which is what we dont need right now.

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  • dougy j reay

    Jul 11, 2007 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #3

    I so hope you’re right. Whilst zog was tepid for the whole of last season, I think he a frightening talent. Remember his goal against blackburn? Bursting through the midfield at pace, then having the confidence to take on brad friedel one on one, and just roll the ball around him and slot home with his wrong foot. Cracking. And to my mind totally sums up what he is all about – pace, power and excitement. No wonder he didnt perform in the turgid, never-left-second-gear team that drifted through last season for glen roeder, he’s obviously a player who likes to take the ball at pace and make runs at players. Not sit and watch as Scott Parker goes round in a circle (honestly, is it just me or much as I love scotty parker is this the rubbishest trick any footballer has ever performed? I now do it at 5 a side as my party piece and even there it achieves nothing other than laughter).
    Also a bit unimpressed by the articles saying he’s off. did anyone note he was either described as a ‘utility player’ or a defender!?

    But what have you heard about last week that makes you so sure he is staying?

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  • jeff

    Jul 11, 2007 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #4

    is beye not coming like?Ive never heard nothing on it as yet….

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  • LiamBirchy8

    Jul 11, 2007 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #5

    great news, now sign baines and have the duo going down the left while duff is out. PLEASE Beye come to the toon you will be a star on tyneside.

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  • big pea ov the weab

    Jul 11, 2007 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #6

    zog is the future he has everything we need it was just unlucky we got a spineless manager like rodent roeder big sam will sort the job just wate n see

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  • matt w

    Jul 11, 2007 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #7

    zog has showed his talent in the final part of the season when roeder 1st took charge. zog was the biggest part of tht charge up the league table, scaring the crap out of defenders with his direct runs with only 1 intent – to attack (what all fans love to see, not only newc fans)

    i can understand zog getting pissed off with roeder because zog deserved to be in the starting line up after driving us forward to finish 7th in the previous season. roeder wanted duff to start no matter what form duff was on (generally not very good and still played him ahead of zog) this srt of treatment was not fair on zog!

    wel dun to SA for warming up to zog, he has proven his ability, he jus needs the confidence from his manager!!!

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  • The Big P

    Jul 11, 2007 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #8

    Competition in midfield is hotting up, especially when Duff is fit. Zog we know has an attacking flair when confidence is high, and he definately was not at his best under Roeder. He gave some really impressive performances as he tried to make a good impression and push for a starting place. In some of those he was Man of the Match. Roeder though ignored that and Zog barely made the bench.
    He is young, he is talented. I hope he stays and becomes part of the revolution on tyneside. Newcastle Fans have not forgotten him, he wore the shirt with pride before Roeder.

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  • Arthur Prince

    Jul 11, 2007 at 7:06 PM

    Comment #9

    Keep the Zog !! Will do really well with BSA mentoring him and using the science etc . Watch him fly will be better than Duff v quickly but needs the Fatherly figure of BSA to guide him . Well done for staying ZOG you won’t regret it I am sure

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  • Phil

    Jul 12, 2007 at 2:04 AM

    Comment #10

    I’ll just ignore the ‘Roeder was a disgrace to both players’ as disgraceful uninformed nonsense. How anyone on any of these forums can say what they might have done had they been trying to manage the team with 8, 9 and 10 injuries is just a complete disgraceful mystery.
    What I would say is that N’zogbia isn’t a winger and so don’t all hold out too much hope that he will save the world from that position. He is what we used to call an inside left. Now I can understand you all getting confused by this because most players had to play out of position last season becasue of the injuries and because Duff was injured a lot Zog had his chance there. If Roeder got anything wrong in my equally uninformed opinion was in persisting with a defensively minded Butt and Parker center midfield pairing rather than play either Zog or Emre more on the left or Dyer inside on the right. However as I can make that observation from my seat in the Gallowgate without the aforementioned pressure heaped on my shoulders then I will just say sorry Glen, you had your heart in the right place and but for a freak injury to owen and a few others you may have made it and you may not but thanks for everything and let’s all get behind Big Sam.

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  • jeff

    Jul 12, 2007 at 8:27 AM

    Comment #11

    Phil People are entitled to their opinion just like you are,and in my opinion Roeder’s man management skills were a disgrace and he is not good tactically either..when a game was going against him he just changes like for like players instead of trying different tactics…..so dont give me this get off his back mallarky at the end of the day he failed and got what he deserved THE SACK………He comes out now and says he didnt have the resources to strengthen the defence when he had 15 million….5 million which went on a winger we didnt need,and to add to that he could of and should of had sol campbell for free who would be brilliant in bringing Taylor on..

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  • Phil

    Jul 12, 2007 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #12

    Yes Jeff, very easy from where you’re sitting.

    No one, but no one was complaining about getting Duff for a steal of £5million when he signed. So he got injured and didn’t play as well as he can and now so called supporters here make it sound like he’s worse than useless when Zog (and I’m as hopeful as anyone that he fulfills his potential) does the same and is revered as some kind of reborn Jairzinho!

    What they gonna do if Duff, having hopefully settled in and coming back from his current injury plays like he is capable? The same so called supporters who 2 months ago on this same forum were telling Michael Owen he should ‘f***’off are going to look really stupid once again.

    Roeder brought in Craig Moore who was excellent whenever I saw him play. He brought back Bernard but who was to know he was never going to be fit the entire season. Roeder wasn’t to know he was going to lose half his squad in the first 6 matches and I personally don’t know if he had the option to bring in Sol Campbell or not, not being a personal acquaintance like yourself.

    I do respect other people’s opinions, I just don’t think it’s right for people to come on here and spout hate towards a previous manager on the basis of very few facts and very little knowledge about running a premiership football club. You make sweeping statements about his man management skills based on the fact he picked one senior player you don’t like over a kid you do and on what you read in the Sun. Perhaps, just perhaps, he felt that as he was forced to play so many kids due to injury that he needed to pick as many senior players as possible where he could for the balance of the team.

    He certainly didn’t have any luck last season and we certainly finished well below our potential in the league. You may not like him cause he didn’t pick your favourite player but I will argue with anyone who calls him disgraceful.

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  • jeff

    Jul 12, 2007 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #13

    VERY WELL WRITTEN PHIL……..BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE LITTLE COMMON KNOWLEGDE WITH THE FACT SOL CAMPBELL WAS AVAILABLE ON A FREE TRANSFER SO NO EXCUSE THERE AND THE FACT THAT ROEDER OVERLOOKED A 10 MILLION POUND PLAYER IN ALBERT LUQUE BECAUSE HE HAD A PERSONAL GRIPE WITH HIM IS A DISGRACE AFTER ALL WASNT ROEDER SUPPOST TO DO WHATS BEST FOR NEWCASTLE UNITED AND PICK THE BEST POSSIBLE PLAYERS AVAILABLE???IM NOT KNOCKING THE YOUNG PLAYERS COS THEY PLAYED ABOVE THEMSELVES AT TIMES,BUT CERTAIN GAMES THEY WERE FOUND OUT,LIKE YOUNG HUNTINGTON AWAY AT ALKMAR EVERYONE COULD SEE HE WAS GETTING MURDERED BUT ROEDER WITH HIS SUPER TACTICS DECIDED TO STICK WITH HIM WHEN HE HAD PLAYERS AVAILABLE ON THE BENCH…………..STOP GETTING ON YOUR HIGH HORSE IF HE WAS AS GOOD AS YOU SAY HE WAS THEN HE’D STILL BE IN A JOB NOW……IF YOU MAKE THE EXCUSE OF ALL THE INJURIES YOU SHOULD LISTEN MORE TO YOUR MATE ROEDER COS HE ALWAYS STATED INJURIES WERE NO EXCUSE HIS WORDS NOT MINE……………….ONE QUESTION ARE YOU SUCKING HIM OFF OR WHAT???

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  • Phil

    Jul 12, 2007 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #14

    and you know that Sol Campbell wanted to leave the south east for Newcastle as a fact Jeff? Rather than join his mate Tony Adams at Portsmouth. Of course, it’s just a case of saying you want a player and they will come! Easy this football management lark! Just ask Big Sam about Ben Haim and Steve Sidwell. I guess he’s off your christmas card list now as well?

    Sorry, I didn’t realise you were personally acquauinted with Luque as well to know that Roeder had a personal gripe with him or did you get that from the Sun as well? Tell me, what are the details of this gripe and where exactly did you get them from? Or do you just mean that Roeder didn’t think he was good enough to get in the team?

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  • keith earley

    Oct 23, 2007 at 7:21 PM

    Comment #15

    Please go educate yourself some Phil, this is quite amusing. I’ve never been one to bash on a manager like many of the people here, but i’ve also never taken to putting on blinders so i can’t see the reasons why people bash thus. Can you show us one example of Roeder making one intelligent effective tactical decision last year? Can you show us a single example of how Roeder’s effective man management brought any newcastle players to a ‘next level’ and make them a better player? I can think of several of each already this year. Personally i think the turnaround of Nicky Butt, partly due to Roeder last year is something all faithful should be thankful for, and I give credit to him for that. Beyond that, i don’t think you will find a shred of evidence to support some of your claims above. In fact, im glad they cannot be proven, because if even half of what you imagine of Glenn were true, he would probably still be here.

    PS. I don’t read the sun, before you tell me thats where all my thinking comes from.

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