Dyer Likely to Leave Newcastle with Promise Unfulfilled

Sam Allardyce has met with Kieron Dyer to discuss his future and Sam has conceded the midfielder may have to leave Tyneside.

Sam indicated that if a family problem could not be resolved – then Kieron will probably have to leave the club – after being at Newcastle for the last eight years.


Kieron Dyer

This is what Sam said this morning:

“At the moment, there’s a problem from a family point of view and we have to try to see whether we can resolve that, and if we cannot, then that may well result in Kieron looking to leave the club for that reason and that reason alone,”

“That’s the discussion we have had. It’s obviously disappointing for me, but it is one I understand.”

“If somebody has got a problem they cannot resolve, then ultimately in the long run, it is better for the club and better for him if you can resolve that problem.”

“If that’s away from here, then so be it.”

Sam is of course right – and if Kieron’s problem cannot be resolved at Newcastle – but can by him moving to another club – that’s obviously what needs to happen. Sam’s mantra has always been that happy players play well and unhappy players don’t.

We have no idea what the family problem is – so we have no way of knowing whether it is possible to resolve it – and have Dyer stay with Newcastle. However , it may be time for Kieron to seek new pastures after being at Newcastle since 1999. Newcastle should be able to get a decent fee for Dyer – and we expect it to be higher than the ₤5M fee mentioned recently in the press. Kieron has two years left of his four year contract at the club – which was negotiated while Souness was manager.

This must be a little disappointing for Big Sam because he was excited about coaching Kieron and trying to get the best out of him. We would also expect Sam to go out and buy another midfielder to replace Kieron. We also believe Dyer may be the one to lose out the most – if he does leave Newcastle – because Sam Allardyce could have coached the very best out of him.

If he does leave then Dyer’s career at Newcastle will be looked on as promise unfulfilled. He has never really approached the levels that he has continually aspired to. His wages of of ₤80K/week will not be a problem for West Ham or whichever other club will come in for him – but based on his performances for Newcastle he has hardly been worth that over the last few years.

If Kieron does leave – which is now a lot more probable than just possible – we will obviously wish him the very best.

34 comments so far

  • TonyL

    Jul 25, 2007 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #1

    Well I cannot say I will be too dissappointed to see Dyer leave as he has underchieved as well as being prone to injuries as well as a bit troublesome on and off the pitch. We need dedicated professionals to represent Newcastle and do not need a player who may cause issues that Trescothick has caused the England Cricket team. Finally, we may get a Deco or Baptista – Maybe I am too optimistic. We haven’t got loads of time to find a replacement if need be.

  • Josh

    Jul 25, 2007 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #2

    If we do sell him lets go and buy SWP WHAT a replacement that would be!
    Anyone else agree?

  • Lin

    Jul 25, 2007 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #3

    Oh…Best wishes! And I hope we can receive a handsome fee from his transfer. But I feel strange about the reason of his transfer which is mentioned as a problem from a family point of view. I think Dyer has been at Newcastle for 8 years, and I didn’t hear any problem of this kind from him.
    Anyway, I do believe this transfer is both good for the club and Dyer himself and maybe his family.

  • kopi9

    Jul 25, 2007 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #4

    please show the door to him……….
    find the player really put their heart to the team..
    find the better replacement
    gudjohnsen or deco

  • Karl Fraser

    Jul 25, 2007 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #5

    Good riddance . He has never lived up to his early promise and his attitude at times has been truly atrocious. Let’s bring in a player that genuinely wants to play for the team and not just catching a ride on the gravy train.

  • Ed Case

    Jul 25, 2007 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #6

    Only Carr and Babayaro to go…

  • kopi9

    Jul 25, 2007 at 5:23 PM

    Comment #7

    swp will be the nice replacement…………………

  • Lin

    Jul 25, 2007 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #8

    Josh-I think SWP is good but his asking price of 10m is not reasonable. I think if we can get him at less than 7m it will be good.

  • Darren

    Jul 25, 2007 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #9

    Get him out – we are finally getting shot of the players who have made mugs of us for these last few years

  • Sean

    Jul 25, 2007 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #10

    Thank God that that bum Dyer is FINALLY on his way out! I would have got rid of him during the Souness era when he broke down after yet another comeback game, and obviously after his “fight” against Bowyer (and I don’t necessarily mean sell him, I would have sacked him after he constantly broke down in training with injury). I can’t wait to get rid of him, I’ll carry him, his baggage, even his house to his next location as long as he clears off; he’s been dead weight for years, he can’t pass, shoot, tackle or work as part of a team, he’s a bad influence and his apparent saving grace, his “blistering” pace, was never shown enough.
    I’m not very old and I haven’t seen as many of the atrocities as most but there are very few players that I have built up such hate for that have played for our club – hopefully, he won’t on that list much longer as he moves on.

  • Obafan

    Jul 25, 2007 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #11

    Don’t know whether to be happy or not if Dyer should leave us. If we find a very good replacement who is willing to play at 300% for the club then sell him. But who would be that replacement.

    – Deco; unlikely that he will come to the toon.

    – SWP; I don’t know but for me he is overrated.

    – Gudjohnson; Would be a really good replacement casue he knows BS and the EPL.

    – Baptista; good player, but what he said whan he left Arsenal does not promise that he will return to the cold North East of England. Gave a nice compliment to our club by saying that we are a big club.

    – Perhaps other candidates???

  • Bluegeordie

    Jul 25, 2007 at 6:11 PM

    Comment #12

    I’m with you Karl – if Dyer doesn’t feel that he owes the club a truly enormous amount after the patience (and cash) that we’ve shown while waiting for him to sort out his neverending injury woes, and live up to his (alleged) potential, then he doesn’t have the character to merit wearing the black and white shirt, and good riddance to him.

    Regarding his never-mentioned-before “family problem”, if it’s manageable from another Premiership club, then surely it’s manageable from Newcastle – England isn’t the size of Russia, China, Canada, or Australia, after all, and on his wages I’m certain he could afford the odd train ticket or two.

    In closing, if there’s any truth to the Deco rumour (which I still hope there is), then I’m sure that the Toon will somehow manage to survive the abdication of the King of Bling!

  • Outlaw

    Jul 25, 2007 at 6:49 PM

    Comment #13

    Il be glad to see the back of Dyer. His time has been plagued with injuries etc. If the bid is anywhere above 6 mill we shud sell him.

  • jojo

    Jul 25, 2007 at 7:01 PM

    Comment #14

    Hey what’s SWP mean ?

  • Ed Harrison

    Jul 25, 2007 at 7:12 PM

    Comment #15

    JoJo – SWP = Shawn Wright Phillips

  • Mick G

    Jul 25, 2007 at 7:32 PM

    Comment #16

    So Dyer has churned out “family” as the reason he wants to leave. How often have players used that excuse.He wants to leave and thats it.He as never struck me as a family man.

  • Greg B

    Jul 25, 2007 at 7:42 PM

    Comment #17

    If Dyer want to leave then so be it, every season for the past 7 years or so Ive thought to myself, maybe this will be the season that Dyer shows his potential, and yes there have been a few good performances over the years but as with Jenas, they were too few and far between.
    And if Sam is struggling to find a replacement for Dyer here a list I have come up with, full reports on the players from wikipedia. But I am sure Allardyce has his scouts out there doing their best to find suitable players for Newcastle, trouble is some fans are getting restless now, just over 2 weeks to the big kick off and our squad, particularly defence, is actually looking no stronger that past squads. The 50 million kitty was obviously a load of rubbish or we would have the faces in, training and geling ahead of the new campaign. I dont buy the ‘struggling to sign new players’ line Allardyce keeps coming up with, look around, other clubs seem to be doing just fine. If Sam had the money to spend then he would have bid for these players that he is so desperate to bring to Newcastle. Once a bid is made Im pretty sure it would make the sports pages, as we have not heard anything in the press than Im assuming no bids have been made. That my view of it anyway, and someone needs to get pull their finger out, and quick!

    Freddy Guarin – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddy_Guarin
    Nery Cardozo – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neri_Cardozo
    Nery Castillo – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nery_Castillo
    Alberto Aquilani – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Aquilani
    Alberto Zapater – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Zapater
    Thomas Kahlenberg – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kahlenberg
    Christian Poulsen – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Poulsen
    Evandro Goebel – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evandro_Goebel
    Wesley Sneijder – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Sneijder
    Ibrahim Afellay – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Afellay
    Kim Kallstrom – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Kallstrom

  • Shaun Dean

    Jul 25, 2007 at 8:03 PM

    Comment #18

    dyer is a waste of space

  • big pea ov the weab

    Jul 25, 2007 at 8:24 PM

    Comment #19

    here here a think al jump on the band wagon dyres shit hes made a mock ov the toon for years get the lttle mug go hes shit any way he can run and thats it

  • apan

    Jul 25, 2007 at 8:41 PM

    Comment #20

    Sam’s mantra has always been that happy players play well and unhappy players don’t – agree with bsa…family probs excused is so lame, why now after 8 years? why now after getting his fitness back, newcastle has spend a lot with his nonsense and bills on the operation table and this is how he repay us? i thought he changed and grown up esp his almost on his prime now but i guess he will always be the same self centered person….hope that we get at least 6 mil for him, and now go buy deco! and this is the chance for our youngsters to shine perhaps

  • taylor*27

    Jul 25, 2007 at 8:41 PM

    Comment #21

    Think big sam will go for nolan ,love to see him at toon and maybe the captain.

  • WelshWizard

    Jul 25, 2007 at 8:42 PM

    Comment #22


    who’s -‘SWP WHAT ‘, never heard of him………haha

  • taylor*27

    Jul 25, 2007 at 8:44 PM

    Comment #23

    to be fair to dyer when hes at his best he is awesome but just have not seen it enough.You never know he could be telling the truth maybe his mum or dad or family member has come dont with a life threatning illness and he just wants to be closer to them

  • LiamBirchy8

    Jul 25, 2007 at 8:58 PM

    Comment #24

    kevin nolan could replace dyer, he loves big sam and would be a great addition. get swp aswell for 8m, baptista 6m, baines 6m and davies 7m

  • Outlaw

    Jul 25, 2007 at 9:20 PM

    Comment #25

    Why are we talking about Shaun Right Phillips? He’s too over-rated!

  • Josh

    Jul 25, 2007 at 9:35 PM

    Comment #26

    I dont think he is over rated anymore, when he was playing consistent football at the end of last season with chelsea he looked VERY good!
    I think he would be a great player for us he opens up the wing brilliant!

  • Obafan

    Jul 25, 2007 at 10:11 PM

    Comment #27

    Outlaw – I completely agree with you about SWP (overrated player).

  • Hammy

    Jul 25, 2007 at 10:12 PM

    Comment #28

    I’m sure there will be many a publican down the Quayside sorry to see Dyer go……..I’m sure their profits will plummet……

  • michael

    Jul 26, 2007 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #29

    Firstly I actually think Dyer is a good footballer. Good pace and skill. But he doesn’t score enough and has had a torrid time with attitudes. He is still due a really good season, but if he forgoes the opportunity to work under one of the best coaching set ups in the country it’ll probably never happen. He’s unlikely to set the world alight and i don’t see anybody else actually wanting to take him on.
    Shaun Wright Philips is also an excellent footballer. Is he as good as Robben? No. Is he as good as Dyer? Yes very much so. He would improve the quality of the squad and for a man who was a 24 million pound player he is a snip at 10 million.
    Brede Hangeland is not good enough and thank christ it emerged as agent talk today.
    Deco would obviously be a fantastic signing if it happened. But whether he would be motivated enough, or consider the challange at NUFC as one he wants to be a part of is yet to be seen. Rjikard could still have his plans for the crafty little portuguese man from brazil.
    Curtis Davies would add some depth to the squad, but it remains to be seen if he could force his way into the 1st XI. Something to consider about a player worth a supposed 8 million pounds.
    The Italian boy Bazagarli (if that is his name) would be my second choice. Sounds very good. But for a man worth ?11 million pounds I would want to see him play first.
    First choice still has to be Sami Hypia. The man is exactly what this club needs. 2 CL finals, bags of experience, PREMIERSHIP experience, and big and strong.
    All of these players would inprove the squad (even Hangeland i suppose) currently, but could we do better? Part of me thinks so, but I don’t know who.

    Help with new and innovative suggestions

  • Yaphet

    Jul 26, 2007 at 3:45 AM

    Comment #30

    I can see some people are very excited about letting Dyer go but has anyone looked at the squad we have right now Emre and Barton are injured and i am not sure you can have an effective 4-3-3 with zog-butt-milner. we already have so many holes that need to be filled in the back and at this point who can we bring in to hold the fort until the injured duo come back. If memory serves me right we were twittering near relegation until Dyer came back from injury last season and other than Barton we have the same midfield (I am thinking Geremi will be playing mostly in defense) I am not saying I would hate to see him go but not before we have a player that can take his place. My excitement about the new season is starting to turn into worry these days as i don’t see anyone being linked to the club. We all seem to believe that it will get done but even the manager is setting us up by saying not too many top players are left. So with all the other clubs snaping up our potential targets is Europe with in reach if we get rid a player that can be an X factor on his day……………. SELL DYER YES SELL HIM NOW YOU HAVE GOT TO BE MAD!!!

  • Ian, Doha

    Jul 26, 2007 at 5:48 AM

    Comment #31

    We can’t let Dyer go until a replacement is signed, especially with Barton, Emrie, etc injured. What about a swap with Chelsea; SWP for Dyer?

    Many high profile names being mentioned as possible NUFC players but Kevin Nolan could be realistic target and Sam mentored him…….

    Sam knows our needs and will not waste money like previous NUFC managers, so we need to be patient and recruit those players willing to give their all for Newcastle.

  • Rich

    Jul 26, 2007 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #32

    I dont mind if Dyer leaves and continues his un-realised potential, but if he moves to Spurs or West Ham and starts playing with the sort of form we have expected from him ill be gutted/green with envy.

    i say sell him, and get a younger improvement like SWP! Ian Wright has already said he wants his son to leave Chelski and play for a prem team regulary and get back into the England fold…. come on Big Sam!!!!

  • Yaphet

    Jul 26, 2007 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #33

    last I checked SWP was a right winger and we seem to have a good one on our books…… how is going to be a swap for Dyer…….do we do to Milner what we did with the Zog?!?!?!?!

  • Thai Toon

    Jul 27, 2007 at 7:36 AM

    Comment #34

    There is no replacememt for Dyer.
    Think about it, can anyone replace Big Al?


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