Comments on: Newcastle’s Ramage Could be Surprise of the Season

By: Doctor 129

Doctor 129 — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 08:46:58 +0000

It takes quite a bit for me to be annoyed enough to post. However you just need to mention the words Peter Ramage to wind me up. Got to be one of the worst defenders we have ever had. Not even Northern League quality, never mind Prem. May be a grafter, but nothing else. Too many mistakes, not enough footballing sense. I echo Sean Dean comments completely. Could never be phrased better. P.S. Shola is the same.

By: Shaun Dean

Shaun Dean — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:53:58 +0000

ramage is shite

By: Gateshead Glenn

Gateshead Glenn — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:49:37 +0000

Ed, not sure about Ramage having an ‘excellent first half’ versus Celtic. Our defence was as bad as their’s —- only difference was we took most of our chances. I remember one occassion when Ramage got caught-out on the wrong side and let their striker in behind, clear on goal. I thought Ramage then dragged him back but fortunately the ref gave him the benefit of the doubt. In a proper game it could easily have been a red card.

On the plus side, Ramage is a good character, he’s very committed and usually quite steady, tho’ there were times last season when his confidence fell apart. Currently, I rate him as number 3 CB at the club, ahead of Huntington and Edgar. However, by the time the season starts, I hope he’s 4th or 5th choice due to new signings, or we’re in trouble!

I agree with your comparison with Aaron Hughes. Ramage can be a valuable utility defender as cover in the squad. I doubt he’ll ever be better than that but he can do a job, at least ’till we get better players in.

P.S. —- I wish BSA (like Roeder) would stop using Hunty at LB. It’s gonna kill the kids confidence and makes him look like a really bad player. He’s like a fish out of water there positionally + no left foot. Use him at CB or possibly RB if we’re desperate. Carr, Edgar, Zog or even Ramage can do a better job at LB at last ’till we find a real one —- soon I hope!

By: Hog

Hog — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:35:37 +0000

I wish I had your optimism ed……..

By: PaulTheMag

PaulTheMag — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 05:26:10 +0000

I don’t care whether he’s ‘good enough’. If he gives 100% for the team, thats good enough for me. I hope he doesn’t get a game. That would mean we have better players in his position. At the moment, it looks a bit bleak on the transfer front. If we don’t sign anyone else, Ramage won’t let us down. He may not be world class, but he has the heart of a Geordie. He will do his best, he will fight for everything, fight for his club. Thats more than some would do.

Paul

By: Phil

Phil — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:07:45 +0000

I should have added by the way that of course that is what these blogs are for!
I always thought Shearer was shite and as for Beardsley, well! Mind you that Marcelino could play a bit…

By: Phil

Phil — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:05:42 +0000

On every article I’ve ever read on this blog (and on many others) people sing the praises of the players they like regardless of how good they are and call them donkeys when they don’t like them regardless of how good they are. I wonder, where does this actually get us?

Fortunately BS gets to pick the team and not us lot and while he may not think Ramage is the best centre half at the club, I’m pretty sure he won’t think he’s useless and I would think at the moment stands number 3 behind Rozy and Tayls. We need at least 4 center halves and probably more if we were in Europe so he’ll probably be here for a while yet and until then, come on Rammy!

By: noel

noel — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:00:09 +0000

“Happy Birthday Rammy
It’s not everyday that a player gets a special mention in the Press for his birthday.

But in this case we here at Blog on the Tyne feel it is a worthy one.

For today is the 23rd birthday of Peter Ramage.

You wouldn’t think that for one so young he had played in just 50 games.

Yet at the minute he is playing like a man above his years.

And going into the Celta Vigo game it’s no bad thing with just three senior defenders available due to an injury crisis at St James’ Park, and one of them is younger than Ramage in the shape of Steven Taylor.

Like every player making the grade at United, Ramage has made mistakes since making his debut 50 games ago but he doesn’t let it bother him and gets on with his job of working for the team.

He didn’t grumble too much after his mistake at Old Traffford last season and he didn’t grumble when Glenn Roeder told him he needed a rest at the end of the 2005/06 season.

Instead Ramage rolled his sleeves up and got on with the job.

He even requested to play in the reserves against Blyth Spartans in the Northumberland Senior Cup final, with the Toon winning 2-1 against the non-leaguers.

And after joining in the celebrations he handed his winners medal to long-serving kitman George Ramshaw in a great gesture.

He started the season again in the reserves but has worked his way back to the first XI.

Perhaps his best moment this season came at centre-back at Upton Park during the 2-0 win – a performance that even Bobby Moore would have took his hat off to.

And despite being switched across the defence he keeps going.

Off the field Ramage is one of the first to turn up at supporters meetings, junior club presentation nights and he is one of the last off the field when clapping the away support.

In addition to that Ramage also faces up to the Press to get his point of view across to the fans no matter what the result even though other a minority of senior figures look the other way.

In truth United have never seen a similar player since the likes of Steve Watson and Lee Clark during the 1990s when two of the best local lads broke into the team.

He’s still got some way to go if he wants to follow them – but he’s certainly on the right road.

And it’s also a triumph for the club’s Academy when they produce a player that serves the senior side so well.” Blog on the tyne Nov 2006
208 Peter Ramage D 48.56% -0.68 Times statistics 2006 -7 season Ramage rated as 208th best player out of 403 player
admittedly taylor and moore higher however admittedly he does top the blame count for goals conceeded but Newcastle had infact still do have players who take much more money and put out much less effort…just think some of you are a little harsh

By: ChrisL

ChrisL — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:52:47 +0000

Good article and I agree with it.

Ramage is decent when played in the middle (and not partnered with some complete Muppet), he’s no good at full back, which is what people remember and slate him for.

He’ll be a great 3rd or 4th choice for centre back this season and Chelsea would have loved to have had someone like him to call on towards the end of last season.

By: evil dick

evil dick — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:27:38 +0000

Give the lad some support! There’s no harm having him in the squad, if he doesn’t improve enough this season then BS will get rid.

And whoever had a dig at Ed about being too positive, I think it’s refreshing to have a newcastle angle that’s not doom and gloom.

By: apan

apan — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:25:22 +0000

the easiest example is like fooball manager or championship manager football rating…ramage wud perform decently but the max he can get max is only 7 , his ok but u will only label him as as backup player rather than a squad player

By: Ed Harrison

Ed Harrison — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:48:16 +0000

valle – i know that – Steven is an obvious star of the future – not sure how good Steven Taylor can become – but it could be to awsome proportions – certainly England center back in next world cup. Hope so – and of course he’s now managed by the perfect manager for him.

By: Mac

Mac — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:12:59 +0000

Right these are the facts Ramage is by no way the worst defender Newcasle have ever had and then again he isn’t the best. He is a squad player and a valuable one at that ,especially the way our bare bone squad stands. We need and this is the bare minimum if you’re reading this Mort 2 CB,1LB,1RB and another midfielder. However you can choose not to put your hand in your bosses pocket and we can struggle to a mid table finish behind the Mackems and the Smoggies which will make you the most unpopular board in history. However bare in mind footballers are greedy but not stupid,Owen and Martins may see the fact we haven’t bought anyone in defence and say with a few days to go,you know the clauses in my contract i’m gonna see if i can use them,they both leave now we’re staring the Championship square in the face. Not likely but not impossible

By: valle

valle — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:16:00 +0000

In ur post u mention that people seem to like Talyor better even though he to makes mistakes. I can tell u why, the reason is that Taylor has that charecter about him, an aura if u will. He is younger than Ramage and he is already better, and he has the strength in charecter to go on and become one of the great defenders of his generation. Ramage on the other hand will go on and follow the footsteps of Aaron Hughes, Andy Griffin and Andy O’Brian. Players who try their best but who will be forgotten when better players arrive… U mention we would have been relegated without Ramage, i challenge u to name 2 games on the top of ur mind where Ramage made such a contribution worthy of that statement.

By: TOON1

TOON1 — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:14:45 +0000

Sorry peter just not good enough 1st team player ,we need better if we are to make progress!!!