Will Martins Be Sold to Fund Defensive Reinforcements?


It is unfortunately looking increasingly true that Sam Allardyce will be restricted to just ₤10M in transfer funds plus anything additional he can get from letting players go.

When you look at the current Newcastle squad one thing becomes very clear – we are overladen with good strikers.

So if Sam sells one of them he could fund transfers for our defense. We all know we don’t have enough experienced players in that department.

The obvious candidate to transfer in this case would be Oba Martins.

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Oba Martins

Two things have happened in the pre-season to suggest we have more than enough good strikers at the club. Andrew Carroll looks like Steven Taylor did a couple of years ago – a budding superstar – probably too good right now to even send out on loan. It’s becoming obvious that he can do a decent job in the Premiership this season. Juventus keeper Buffon could see that on Sunday and complimented the player on his ability to lay the ball off to other players – never mind his scintillating goal.

The other is the sublime form shown to date by Albert Luque who has proved he can score goals if he gets a run of games. The Spaniard looks so much more confident on the field than last year – and dare we say it – even looks like the player we thought we’d signed a couple of years ago.

Add Ameobi, Viduka and Owen to these two and there’s five good strikers we have without Martins.

Martins could fetch ₤13M into the coffers and he is also on high wages so it would be a good sale financially for the club.  Don’t get us wrong – Martins is going to get better and he’s exciting to watch these days. His shot on Sunday that was parried by Buffon to set up Carroll’s first Newcastle goal was hit like an absolute bullet.

It will be very painful to sell Martins but if the situation is as it looks and Mort is applying the brakes on the finances this could be a solution for Sam – albeit an unpopular one.  This is a way to get Newcastle out of their dilemma right now – but anyone taking a cold hard look at the playing staff – that’s got to be the  conclusion one reaches about our current squad – Martins is expendable.

We know this will not be a popular decision to fans if taken by the club – and we don’t really know if this will be a course taken by Newcastle. What we are saying is that if you put yourself in Sam’s shoes this is something he could do – which helps solve his dilemma. Any other solution readers have – let us know – because it looks like Sam has been restricted this late in the transfer window on his transfers.

Oba’s been linked with Arsenal already this summer with that talk cooling a few weeks back and of course he has always expressed his desire at some point to return to Italy. The next step would be to see if any offers come in – but if Newcastle take this tact they’d have to do it very quickly so the money would be available to fund transfers of defenders into the club.

Comments welcome and if there are other solutions out there – assuming no more transfer funds from Ashley (which we still find hard to believe) – let’s hear them.



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97 comments so far

  • Tom_Toon

    Jul 31, 2007 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #1

    If this was tru we needed to raise funds selling a striker, why would we sel Martins!

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  • awc88

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #2

    Luque sublime form wat are u talking about, he scored two taps in against a jet lagged celtic team and a penalty against a half fit Juventus, may i remind you that he scored a few goals in pre season last year and did nothing when the important stuff started

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  • Rich

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #3

    exactly id rather sell owen than martins, this guy is going to be awesome this season, sell him and we will be near relegation, what a disgrace bring back shephard, ashley will be hated by fans soon, broken promises already what a start for a new reign?

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  • doc

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #4

    I guess its to early to “SACK the BOARD”

    give it another week !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • shaun

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #5

    Ed- Doesn’t even look like we’ve got 10 million to spend, we are spending nothing at the moment. Not sure whether this Smith bid is true, if it is and we do have very little money to spend it would make v little sense. What’s happened to the tv rights money (£30 mil) and the compensation for owen? Man city and West ham are signing players left, right and centre. We’ve spend about 2M, it’s not funny

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  • shaun

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #6

    oh and drame has signed for sochaux apparently

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  • Callum

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #7

    I’d rather sell Owen, Martins is only going to get better whereas Owen is only going to get injured.

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  • Tom Cairns

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #8

    Why are people so certain we have only 10m? A couple of days ago it was just a rumour by some scrap paper, now people are getting more nervous about the lack of signings it suddenly becomes fact. BSA even said that there are so few available (pretty much none) at the moment to the right standard. Could this not be the real reason behind the lack of signings of late, not the lack of money. Even Mort has said about the continued efforts to strengthen, no comment at all about selling.

    Another small anoyance with these stories is that if we were to sell any striker it surely would be Ameobi; he’s not of martins, owens or vids standard but would still bring in a good amount of money. He would get the least amount of games for us and if you split our strikers but style we have three prem standard (im counting carroll even though it may be slightly early) target men.

    Even if we do only have 10m right now to spend, sell dyer for 5m to make 15m and there’s no way you can convince me that we’ll need more than that for an experienced CB and a left back . Granted some more cover would be nice but we all know how shrewd BSA can be with the free transfers. At RB we have Carr, Geremi and Solano who can all play there so isnt a great urgency in my books.

    Selling Martins, by far our most lucrative and talented assett, would be stupid and needless.

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  • steve

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #9

    yeah surely this story makes absolutely no sense. why would you sell your top scoring striker of the previous season?

    why would transfer funds be so tight? it seems to make no logical sense – even if newcastle is simply a business for ashley. even if he wants to return a profit he needs newcastle in the uefa cup next season. we will be very hard pushed to make top seven with this squad. remember we have to out-muscle west ham, portsmouth and aston villa who are all spending big. nevermind the rearguard action of big spenders such as man city.

    the situation is ridiculous and quite frankly mort has been shocking in completing deals. makes you wish freddy was there with his negotiating skills and wallet. ashley has two billion… where are the fu*&^%g players?

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  • arnie-mag

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #10

    sell Ameobi rather than Martins

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  • MektiG

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #11

    it’s all a media hoax ofc!

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  • richupindisbiatch

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #12

    SACK THE BOARD SACK THE BOARD SACK THE BOARD

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  • JEFFBRUM

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #13

    LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE DRAWN THE SHORT STRAW WITH THE BUYERS OF OUR CLUB !!! LOOK AT THE OUTLAY ON NEW PLAYERS AT THE OTHER CLUBS WHICH HAVE BEEN BOUGHT OUT….AT MAN . U. ( APPROX £40M ) LIVERPOOL ( £40M PLUS ) WEST HAM ( BIG MONEY ) MAN CITY ( BIG MONEY ) EVEN BCFC HAVE SIGNED 8 NEW PLAYERS. GOTTA FEEL SORRY FOR BSA – HE THOUGHT HE HAD JOINED AN AMBITIOUS CLUB !!!!! THINK OUR TOTAL OUTLAY HAS BEEN ABOUT £3M ???? ( AFTER SELLING PARKER ) COMMENTS ????

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  • richupindisbiatch

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #14

    WHERE’S ALL DIS MONEY THEY WOOR PRMISING HUH YEH 2 FACED PIGS

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  • yj

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #15

    This is not what we have heard when we are told that Ashley’s taking over! We heard that he wanted to make newcastle a top club in a few year’s time. The situation now is cmpletely different! It’s really disappointing. Apart from that, I think that even if we are short of funds, we should NOT sell Martins. It is foolish to sell a good striker like him. Maybe we can try to use our young players like Ramage, Edgar and Huntington in the defending department if we were short in numbers. They are good and can only be better.

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  • Graham

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #16

    This whole Ashley thing is getting very sour if you ask me. I have read this morning that he was unaware of the £80m debt were in and is looking for a quick sale – and I have also heard that he only wants NUFC as a way into Adidas for his sport shops – we need to be buying and not selling in any department if Ashley wants to get anywhere near what he paid for the club in the first place. It seems to be right what they say – if it looks too good to be true then it probably is…

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  • Dman

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #17

    Why Martins? Owen would be my choice, he earns more, does not want to be at the club and is an England international. Keep Martins and ship out Dyer and Owen.

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #18

    We knew this wouldn’t be popular 🙁
    Picked Martins because we get 13M for him presumably – Ameobi wouldn’t fetch more that say 4M at most – and Owen 9M.
    Hey – we’re hoping the situation we are in is clarified soon – at least so the fans know what’s really going on at the club.

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  • nufc fo lyfe

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #19

    i just cant see martins leaving da club i….it will be too painful…how about if we sell dyer for 5-6 mill and maybe ameobi for atleast i think well get 3-4 mill for him…well hav a good at da very least 8 mill to spend

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  • Graham

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #20

    Oh and by the way… anybody looking over their shoulder at 18th place this season if we dont move quickly?

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #21

    Tom – we don’t know if it’s true and when it came out on Sunday we just didn’t believe it. All we are saying is that if it is true this would be a solution – we do have a lot of strikers now. Ameobi wouldn’t bring in enough cash. I’ve rephrased some stuff near the end to make it clearer what we are saying.
    Here’s our piece on the 10M story from Sunday:
    http://nufcblog.com/newcastle-transfer-kitty-only-10m-we-dont-believe-it/

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  • Dave

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #22

    Listen to ourselves! Calm down, give it time. No-one wants the club to fail again, least the people who have just bought it for millions. It’s just a lot slower than we expected.

    Oba, Owen and Ameobi are all staying. If the right signing comes along we’ll get the money surely. If Sam had only been given £10mil he’d be bloody fuming and he’s not quite…yet.

    Baines is still on the market btw. Wigan rejected an Everton bid of £4 mil.

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  • P.collins

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #23

    It’s amazing now NUFC is owned by a Multi Billionaire were now more strapped for cash than we have ever been. At least BAGPUSS always backed his managers. I understand the club will have had a few debts when Ashley took over but nothing serious, but over the last couple of days it seems as if were a club in Crisis. More players want to leave us than join us. It’s coming to the stage that i dare’nt read a paper because i’m frightened who’s leaving next. It was only a few weeks ago we were talking about, DECO , & GUDJONSEN and rest of them we were never going to sign, all this mess need’s sorting out very quickly, for the sake of my health if not the team.

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  • Dave

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #24

    I’d like to hear what ‘keep oba’ has to say – where are you 🙂 ?

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  • apan

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #25

    if we sell ameobi we get 4m then i guess 14m is enought for at least 1 or 2 defenders right, get bosingwa and baines heck bring silvestre!

    i beginning to get annoyed and irritated by the board, how come he doesnt know that newcastle is 80m in debt, he doesnt know how to read the files isnt he? MA needs to learn how to communicate now or else, i recommend him to play Football Manager or Championship Manager first and then learned the difficulty to acquired players with that limited budget and get an euro spot, then compared it to the real life il be he wil be sweatin lmao

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  • Dave

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #26

    P.Collins – it’s the press man, don’t believe all you hear. OK the owner has done a strategic review and the transfers aren’t zipping along at the apce we’d like but the noise from the club, the manager and the players has hardly lived up to the press frenzy we are seeing.

    The papers love a Toon scandal and when they are thin on the ground they start to make em up!

    Is anyone with me on this or am I just blindly optimistic?

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  • Rich

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #27

    Is no one else up in arms??

    we have just been bought over by a guy who is not willing to bankroll the sucess of this club?

    should we not be calling for his head???

    Id rather have the defense we have at the moment and keep Martins.

    If we sell Oba Martins i seriously think im going stop paying attention to NUFC and football in general for a while.

    Ive been a solid supporter for 22 years of my life, but if weve just been bought over by a stingy recluse who thinks we have to sell our best players to do any better then im giving up, seriously, freddy shephard was annoying but at least he bankrolled us.

    Mike Ashley, your a complete & utter **!**!*!*!**!*!*!*!*

    can anyone tell me what happened to over £30+ million season pay out? or has that just gone directly into sports direct?

    ffs, im completely fed up now.

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  • apan

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #28

    Dyer hate campaign Jul 31 2007
    NEWCASTLE United have rejected a £5m offer from West Ham for Kieron Dyer, but he seems unhappier than ever at St James’s Park after his car and home came under attack from disgruntled fans

    I pity him , but yet again he deserved it i guess? but i dont think the actions will bring any good coz player will be scared to come to tyneside and spoilt the reputation of newcastle united as a professional football club

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  • apan

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #29

    Dyer hate campaign Jul 31 2007
    NEWCASTLE United have rejected a £5m offer from West Ham for Kieron Dyer, but he seems unhappier than ever at St James’s Park after his car and home came under attack from disgruntled fans

    I pity him , but yet again he deserved it i guess? but i dont think the actions will bring any good coz player will be scared to come to tyneside and spoilt the reputation of newcastle united as a professional football club and well that will drive him off further. We need instant money west ham wants to paid up after he had played 50 games wtf just pay!

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  • doc

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #30

    Is ASHLEY a secret mackam???

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  • D.

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #31

    Not sure how reliable this Independant report is, but still: “Newcastle put Martins on sale to raise transfer cash

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  • shaun

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #32

    Agree with you Rich – We can see with our own eyes and by what Sam is saying that the new Ashley is not backing Sam with hard cash, we don’t need to belive or not believe the press, it’s painfully obvious – pick up your pitch forks, light your torches and lets get down there!

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  • Steely

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #33

    Oh dear! I mentioned this £10m thing last week and got rubbished by some fans saying it was too soon to be having a go at the club! Well I wasnt having a go at the club then, but it’s looking like some very sour grapes somewhere at the club! Regardless of what Ashley wants to put into this club in the early stages, we should AT LEAST expect around £20m to spend from the TV rights alone!! On top of that we have the money from Parker so that takes us to almost £30m to spend!! We have spent a very small portion of that so I dont know if Ashley has just decided pocket the extra cash or wot!?
    Is the man stupid if he thinks we are going to win the Premiership in 4 years….we’ll be struggling to win the Championship in that time coz the way we’re going with the numbers in our squad that’s where we could end up!
    The whole thing stinks in my opinion and the signing of that idiot from ManUre (Smith!) will not sweeten one little bit!
    Does anyone else think they are looking to save the money for next season and sack BSA at the end of the season??

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  • JEFFBRUM

    Jul 31, 2007 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #34

    ……NO MATTER WHAT WE HAVE SAID ABOUT FAT FRED IN THE PAST , AT LEAST HE ALWAYS BACKED THE MANAGER FINANCIALLY WITH ‘BIG MONEY’ AND EVENTUALLY GOT US A GOOD ‘TOP NOTCH’ AMBITIOUS MANAGER…..WOULDNT SURPRISE ME TO SEE HIM CHUCK IT IN ! PS. WHY ARE WE LOOKING TO SIGN ‘SMITHY’ ??? ITS THE DEFENCE WHICH NEEDS MONEY SPENT ON !

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  • D.

    Jul 31, 2007 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #35

    Smith will be a replacement for Martins, should the rumours and bad press about his inevitable sale turn out to be true. He’ll cost some way less than half of what we’ll bring in for Martins, and can play in a number of positions with reasonable success.

    As for Shepherd, I think people forget that he has left the club with crippling debts. Continuing to bankroll managers in the same blind manner would have ran us into the ground entirely. Remember Leeds United?

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  • Steely

    Jul 31, 2007 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #36

    JEffbrum….totally right about the defence!! Why the frig is BSA even comtemplating looking at the midfield at the minute????? week and a half to go till the season starts and he just be putting EVERY LAST SECOND into tying up defenders…..SPECIFICALLY A BASTARD LEFT BACK……and he’s sat wasting time on the phone to get some Leeds has-been who will add nowt to our squad!! Come on Sam…get with it!! The fans hated all the previous managers after Bobby (and even him to an extent) because they all acknowledged our defence was toss, but then didnt have the guts to change it all! I was soooo happy when he chucked Bramble & Co out, but that was when I thought he had a good enough cadre to attract replacements….perhaps I was wrong!!!???

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  • Steely

    Jul 31, 2007 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #37

    D. Bank rolling managers in the same manner as Shephard would be a bad idea I agree, but to see the squad so thin – he must be bonkers not to realise that if we go into the season without more numbers then we’re gonna be in DEEP trouble!! Even an idiot can see that we need at least 4 players, and unless he is content to get in a handle of mediocre players and risk it, then he must stump up the cash!!

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  • shaun

    Jul 31, 2007 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #38

    Steely/jeffbrum – I don’t believe we will sign smith as I don’t believe Sam is being given any money, neither will we sign a quality (costs money) left back(s) or CB.

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  • Dumers

    Jul 31, 2007 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #39

    If Alladyce had any sense…he would get rid of ameobi and not martins you could easily get 4-6 mill for the striker by selling him to sum1 like wigan!! that way we hav enaough to buy a decent left back!! get faye in and a centre half like big sol and we are set..losing martins will be stupid!!

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  • Mac

    Jul 31, 2007 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #40

    Smith seems to be on his way for 6 million,hhhmmmm let me think that makes no sense,for a team with no money and an abbundance of strikers why would we buy another,we wouldn’t, We have money and we have the backing,everyone calm down and lets just see how this plays out. If we don’t have 4 yes that’s right 4 quality players in by the end of August i’ll show my arse in Fenwicks window

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