Discussion Topic: What’s Newcastle’s Best Team?


The discussion topic for today is a difficult one and probably means Sam has done a decent job in the transfer market.

What is our best Newcastle team assuming we have everyone available?

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Let’s assume, for the purposes of this exercise, that we’ll play 4-3-3 at home and 4-4-2 away (even if we don’t).

We’ll ask you for two teams.

1)  Home Team
2)  Away Team

Also, if you have any ideas or considerations on a rotation policy please let us know. Sam has already indicated he will need to use some kind of rotation just to give everyone a game and keep all of the squad involved.

Some questions that need answering given the much stronger squad we have for this season:

1)Which two to choose between Taylor, Rozehnal and Cacapa for the two center-backs?

2)Which two or three strikers get the nod given the awesome strike force we have this season of Viduka, Smith, Owen, Martins, Ameobi, Luque and Carroll.

One of Sam’s toughest jobs this season we feel will be to keep all the players happy – but he seems to be a master at that – so we’re not too worried. It also shows we haven’t been too spoiled for choice in the past.

You’ll notice we are not volunteering any teams today – that’s only because it’s not easy  😀

Let’s have your teams and any points you want to make on rotation policy  – thanks.



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42 comments so far

  • geordie_jordan

    Aug 9, 2007 at 5:25 AM

    Comment #1

    HOME

    Carr….Rozenhal….Taylor….Luis Enrique
    …….Geremi……..Barton……….Milner
    ………………….Smith…………………
    …………….Martins…………Owen…..

    AWAY

    Carr……Rozenhal……..Taylor…….Luis Enrique
    ………………..Geremi……………..
    Solano………Barton……………………..Milner
    ……………….Viduka……..Owen…………

    ok…. as to rotation. i think taylor will get rotated out frequently (the lad is young!!!) with cacapa and maybe another CB we buy later. here’s hoping we buy a right back to rotate with carr. i think the zog and enrique will rotate frequently with baba in the mix when he’s healthy (hopefully never, he’s woeful). and i think geremi and barton will be fixtures in the squad both home and away. smith will play when we need an attacking formation. viduka will play when the opposite occurs, to hold up play and allow martins or owen to feed off him.

    i’m watching youtube videos and getting really excited. come on SATURDAY.

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  • doug

    Aug 9, 2007 at 5:51 AM

    Comment #2

    HOME
    Given
    Geremi….Rozenhal….Taylor….Luis Enrique
    Milner……..Barton…Smith …..Zog
    ..Martins Viduka

    AWAY
    Geremi….Rozenhal….Cacapa….Luis Enrique
    Milner……..Barton…Smith …..Zog
    ………Martins Viduka

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  • turdburger

    Aug 9, 2007 at 5:53 AM

    Comment #3

    …………………..given……………………….

    geremi… cacapa… rozenhal…enrique

    ……..barton….butt…..emre…………..

    milner…………………………..duff..

    ……………….viduka…………………..

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  • Ian, Doha

    Aug 9, 2007 at 6:10 AM

    Comment #4

    Ed, here’s my selection:

    ………………………..Given
    Carr….Rozenhal….Taylor….Enrique
    Geremi……….Barton……..….Milner
    ………………….Smith
    ……….Viduka…………Owen

    AWAY

    ………………………..Given
    Carr……Rozenhal……..Taylor…….Enrique
    Milner………Barton……Geremi……N’Zogbia
    ……………….Viduka……..Owen

    Rotation:

    Harper for Given
    Solano (or new RB) for Carr
    Cacapa for Taylor (60%) and Rozenhall (40%)
    Ramage used as sub 50% as cover during injuries
    Babayaro/N’Zogbia (or new LB) for Enrique
    Solano and Duff for Milner
    Butt for Geremi
    Emre for Barton
    Luque and Duff for N’Zogbia
    Luque and maybe N’Zogbia/Milner for Smith when playing 4-3-3???
    Ameobi for Viduka (think Carrol will go on loan)
    Martins for Owen

    Who’ve I missed? Edgar, Huntington, Troisi, Patterson, etc will be introduced as substitutes although I still think either Edgar or Huntington will go on loan. Just don’t know which one?

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  • apan

    Aug 9, 2007 at 6:47 AM

    Comment #5

    i would be more defensive in away games than home because we always lose points playin away so at least win the games or grab a point not worried about home games we are superb at home our fotress is back! New players in the EPL should play more home games while experience players in EPL will handle the away games better

    HOME (4-3-3 Attack Diamond)

    ———————Given—————————

    Geremi——Cacapa——-Rozenhal——Enrique

    ————————Barton—————————

    Solano—————————————Milner

    ——————–Viduka————————

    ———–Owen——–Martins—————

    Subs- Harper, Carr, Taylor, Smith, Martins

    AWAY (442 Defensive More Counter Play)

    ———————Given—————————

    Solano——Taylor——-Rohzehnal——N Zogbia

    —————Barton—— Butt—————————

    Geremi—————————————Milner

    ———–Owen——–Viduka—————

    Subs- Harper, Carr, Cacapa, Smith, Martins

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  • geordie_jordan

    Aug 9, 2007 at 6:48 AM

    Comment #6

    oh crap. of course i forgot given!!!!!!!! sorry shay! you’re a legend!

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  • apan

    Aug 9, 2007 at 6:49 AM

    Comment #7

    F*** i forgot about Duff haha well il include him in our away match for sure to replace milner on the left while milner goes to right and geremi back in rightback position

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  • geordie_jordan

    Aug 9, 2007 at 6:56 AM

    Comment #8

    ohh s**** i forgot about duff too……..

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  • Hadji

    Aug 9, 2007 at 7:38 AM

    Comment #9

    ………………Given
    Taylor…………..Cacapa…………Rozehnal………….Enrique

    …………………………Geremi

    ………………………….Barton
    ………….Smith……………………………Emre
    ……………….Owen………….Martins

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  • adam123

    Aug 9, 2007 at 7:40 AM

    Comment #10

    HOME

    —————-given——————

    geremi–rozenhal-taylor–enrique

    —milner—–barton—–duff—

    —————viduka—————

    ——-owen———-smith——–

    AWAY

    ————–given——————

    geremi-rozenhal-taylor-enrique

    milner–barton–smith–duff—

    ———–owen–viduka———-

    rotations-

    taylor -cacapa
    duff-nzogbia
    owen-martins

    let me know what you think of this set up

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  • Sean

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:05 AM

    Comment #11

    home:
    4-3-3

    …………………….given…………………..
    ..Carr…Rozenhal…taylor…enrique..
    ………………..Geremi……………………
    …………….Smith….Barton…………..
    ……….Owen…Viduka…Martins……

    Away:

    4-1-2-1-2

    …………………….given…………………..
    ..Cacapa..Rozenhal..taylor..enrique..
    ………………..Geremi……………………
    ………..Milner…………Smith…………
    ………………….Barton………………….
    ……….Viduka…Owen/Martins……..

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  • Sean

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:12 AM

    Comment #12

    In my home squad as a rotation Nicky butt would come in and Geremi would go right back and Carr would come off.
    Steven Taylor would come off every so often and Cacapa would come in.
    Michael Owen would come off every so often Smith would go up front and emre would fit in at centre midfield – if emre is not fit, smith would stay where he is and luque would go upfront

    In my away team as a rotation Charles N’zogbia and Emre would come on for 2 of the three Smith Barton and Milner so perhaps Smith and barton come off Charlie and Emre come on or milner and barton come off and smith would go right mid and charlie would go left and emre AM

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  • paul p

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #13

    given

    carr, rozenhal, cacapa, enrique

    solano, geremi, barton, duff

    viduka, owen

    away

    given

    geremi, rozenhal, cacapa, enrique

    milner, barton, butt, smith

    viduka, martins

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  • Owen

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #14

    I get the feeling we’ll be playing something more like 5 at the back for away games, 2 wing backs etc. It might look something like this.

    ……………………………….Given………………………………………

    Solano……Taylor……. Cacapa……..Rohsenhal……… Enrique.

    …………….Geremi………….Barton…………Butt…………………..

    ……………………Martins………………..Owen……………………….

    This would be a seriously good, solid, counter attacking side with the pace of Owen and Martins up front. Smith, Viduka, Milner, Zog , Harper on the bench.

    Home

    Carr………..Taylor…………..Rohsenal………….Enrique

    ……..Milner…………Geremi…………..Barton……………

    …………………………..Smith……………………………..

    ………………Martins………………Owen………………..

    This is a good attacking line up against the weaker teams but against the ManU, Chelski and Liverpools, I’d probably like to see 4-4-2 with Butt coming into the centre and Smith moving up to replace Owen or Martins.

    Now lets hope we can fulfill the potenial…….. roll on Saturday 🙂

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  • Sean

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:15 AM

    Comment #15

    anyone who i haven’t mentioned will come on as sub in most games

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  • shaun D

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:19 AM

    Comment #16

    Really difficult when everyone’s fit. The centre off the park and upfront are the most difficult – I also think it’ll be a scrap for left midfield between zog and duff this season, if duff gets back near to the duff of old. would like a new rb. Also, don’t know who’s the best two out of cacapa, rozehnal or Taylor!
    Smith and Viduka will be used rotation. Taylor will also be rotated with Cacapa or rozehnal. Smith and Barton will be fighting it out for a place at home. Of course teams will be dependant on opposition, especially away.

    …………………..Given…………………

    Carr …..Taylor……Rozehnal…..Enrique

    Geremi
    Milner Duff

    Martins Owen
    Viduka

    Given

    Carr……..Taylor…….Rozehnal….Enrique

    Milner…………..Geremi…………..N’Zogbia

    Barton

    Owen Viduka

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  • shaun D

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:21 AM

    Comment #17

    Crap! Oh and Smith will be rotated with viduka and martins with Owen

    …………………..Given…………………

    Carr …..Taylor……Rozehnal…..Enrique

    …………………….Geremi………………..
    Milner ………………………………….Duff

    ……….Martins ………..Owen……….
    …………………..Viduka…………….

    ……………………Given

    Carr……..Taylor…….Rozehnal….Enrique

    Milner…………..Geremi…………..N’Zogbia

    …………………….Barton………………….

    …………..Owen …………….Viduka……..

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  • Sean

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:24 AM

    Comment #18

    does anyone know for definate what enrique will wear on his shirt this season? is it just enrique or jose enrique?

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  • tommyinaus

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:24 AM

    Comment #19

    I’d actually play 4-4-2 home and 4-3-3 away

    HOME
    …………………………Given
    Geremi……Rozenhal…….Taylor…….Enrique
    ………………………Butt
    ..Milner……………………………….N’Zogbia
    …………………….Barton
    ………….Viduka…………Owen

    .
    AWAY
    …………………..Given
    Solano…..Rozenhal…..Taylor….Enrique
    …….Barton…………..Geremi
    …………………Smith
    .
    …..Martins…………….N’zogbia
    ……………….Viduka

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  • Owen

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:29 AM

    Comment #20

    With EVERYBODY fit it will be a tough choice.

    Great problem to have.

    Would prefer not to waste Geremi at RB but it’s good option to have if we don’t sign another RB before January.

    You never know, BSA might turn Carr back into the great RB he was for Spurs, but I reckon this is his last season at the Toon.

    Flamini is still available and would make a great RB for us.

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  • Gary

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:30 AM

    Comment #21

    away:

    Geremi Rozenhal Capaca Enrique

    Milner Barton Butt Duff

    Martins Owen

    Possibly rotate our midfield pairings with butt, smith, emre. Can’t wait for the new season, hopefully we’ll get of to a good start abd get the confidence flowing.

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  • Gary

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:31 AM

    Comment #22

    Forgot about Zog, he will be rotated aswell in the middle. That’s his best position

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  • Ian, Doha

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:33 AM

    Comment #23

    What happens if Dyer stays?

    When fit and with the right frame of mind he’ll make the starting eleven but in what position, and what’s his best position?

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  • Geordio Cubano

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:37 AM

    Comment #24

    HOME

    Solano..Rozenhal..Taylor..Enrique
    Milner..Geremi..Smith..N’Zogbia
    ………….Viduka..Martins/Owen

    AWAY

    Taylor..Rozenhal..Capaca..Enrique
    …….Geremi…..Butt…..N’Zogbia
    …….Smith…..Viduka…Martins/Owen

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  • geordie_jordan

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:43 AM

    Comment #25

    CAM imo. hey ED. any rumblings and grumblings about more transfers coming in before the deadline??????

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  • liam

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #26

    home

    …………………………………………..given…………………………………………………….

    ……………..carr……………..taylor………rozenhal………………..enrique…………..

    …………..solano…………..geremi………barton……………………milner……………

    …………………………………..owen…………viduka…………………………………………

    this was so hard to do because i think n’zog is good, as well as butt, martins smith, cacapa

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  • ryan magomu

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #27

    for the 4-4-2 formation
    i would use this squad
    Given
    solano taylor rozehnal nzogbia

    milner geremi burton duff

    martins owen

    for the 4 5 1 formation i would use

    Given

    carr taylor cacapa enrique

    geremi burton butt

    milner duff
    martins

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  • tommyinaus

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #28

    I was just wondering how ameobi is performing.
    Anyone who has seen him in action this preseason- how’s he performing?
    Also, do u think once Enrique is established at lb, will solano replace carr at rb?

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  • Howay The Black And White Army

    Aug 9, 2007 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #29

    Does no one seem to like cacapa. So this guy is good enough to be lyon’s captain over players like juninho pernambucano, coupet and malouda but he’s not even good enough to make our starting 11. Sounds kinda crazy to me.

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  • Sean

    Aug 9, 2007 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #30

    i know i’ve got him in my startin XI

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  • shaun d

    Aug 9, 2007 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #31

    Howay The Black And White Army – Re cacapa – I think our centre backs could be any two of the three. I guess it’s because we haven’t seen him play yet. Rozenhal has looked accomplished in pre seaseon so it’s prob based on that. It’s an exciting prospect that we will have 3 quality cbs to choose from though isn’t it

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  • ashingtongeordie

    Aug 9, 2007 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #32

    Home 3-5-2

    ………………….Given……………………

    …..Cacapa….Taylor…Rozenthal…..

    Milner…………………………..Enrique

    ………….Geremi…..Barton……………

    ………………….Smith……………………

    ……………Owen…..Viduka……………

    We would need 2 more decent centrebacks for cover using this formation
    Rotate:
    Huntington and Ramage (for now) as cover for any of the 3 CB
    Solano for Milner
    N’Zogbia for Enrique
    Butt for Geremi
    Emre for Barton
    Dyer or Luque for Smith
    Martins for Owen
    Luque or Smith for Viduka

    Away
    4-4-2 Diamond

    ………………….Given……………………….

    Cacapa…Taylor…Rozenthal…Enrique

    …………………..Geremi…………………….

    Smith…………………………………..Milner

    ……………………Barton………………………

    ………….Owen……………Viduka…………..

    Rotation:

    Carr for Cacapa
    N Zogbia for Enrique
    Cacapa For Taylor
    Ramage For Rozenthal
    Dyer or Solano for Smith
    N Zogbia or Duff for Milner
    Dyer, Luque or Smith for Barton
    Martins for Owen
    Luque or Smith for Viduka

    I would even try Owen and Martins up front with Dyer just behind them, (if he’s still here) that sort of pace from the front 3 will have every defence in the country brickin it come 3.oopm on a saturday afternoon.

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  • kieran

    Aug 9, 2007 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #33

    who do u think will aways start…home and away???

    for me its owen,geremi and rozy

    let me know what you think

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  • Ryan

    Aug 9, 2007 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #34

    HOME:……………………GIVEN……………………….
    …CACAPA…..TAYLOR…..ROZENTHAL…ENRIQUE
    ………………..GEREMI……BARTON…………………
    ………………………….SMITH…………………………….
    …..MARTINS…………………………………….OWEN
    ………………………..VIDUKA……………………………..
    (Very attack minded team, but i’d like to see us be adventerous at home and really put teams on their heels SUBS:Harper,Luque, Milner, Duff,Ramage )
    AWAY:…………………GIVEN…………………………..
    CACAPA…..TAYLOR…….ROZENTHAL…ENRIQUE
    SOLANO……GEREMI……BARTON…….MILNER
    …………………VIDUKA….OWEN……………………
    (SUBS:Harper,Martins,Ameobi,Smith,Nzogbia,Ramage)

    Actually was quite hard to find room on the bench for our players, if we can cut our injuries down we have one helluva squad!!

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  • bob

    Aug 9, 2007 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #35

    home :
    ……………………….Given………………………..
    Carr……..Taylor………Rozenhal…..Enrique

    ……………………….Geremi………………………
    ……………Barton……………Smith…………….

    …Martins………………………………..Milner…
    ……………………….Viduka……………………….

    Subs: Owen, Capaca, Butt, Emre, Harper

    away:
    ………………………..Given………………………….
    Geremi…….Taylor………Rozenhal….Enrique
    …………………………..Butt….…………………..……..
    ……………………….Barton…………………………
    Solano…………………………………………Milner
    …………………Owen…….Viduka…………………

    subs: Martins, Capaca, Emre, Carr, Harper

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  • Marko

    Aug 9, 2007 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #36

    I don’t know why everyone wants to play Geremi in midfield. We’ve got so much talent in midfield and surely Butt is a better in the holding role.

    Better to replace the mediocre Carr at right back or use him as a utility substitute.

    Given

    Geremi Rozenthal Cacapa Enrique

    Butt
    Milner N’zogbia/Duff

    Smith/Barton

    Viduka Martins

    Lets face it, Owen is never gonna be fit, it’s just a joke.
    Luque is looking promising though, stick him up front in Carling Cup games.

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  • Marko

    Aug 9, 2007 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #37

    ………………….Given………………….

    Geremi Rozenthal Cacapa Enrique

    …………………Butt………………………..

    ……….Milner ………..N’zogbia/Duff……..

    …………….Smith/Barton……………….

    …………..Viduka…….. Martins……………..

    Lets face it, Owen is never gonna be fit, it’s just a joke.
    Luque is looking promising though, stick him up front in Carling Cup games.

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  • TAMPASCOTT

    Aug 9, 2007 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #38

    VIDUKA
    MARTINS SMITH

    MILNER EMRE BARTON

    ENRIQUE CACAPA ROZEN GEREMI

    GIVEN

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  • Michael

    Aug 9, 2007 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #39

    Home
    ————————–Given—————————————–
    -Solano——-Taylor———-Rozenhal—–Enrique–
    ———-Milner——-Geremi———NZogbia————–
    ————————-Viduka—————————————–
    —————-Owen————-Martins—————————

    Away

    —————————-Given———————————————
    Geremi———-Taylor———Rozenhal———-Enrique—
    ———–Solano———-Butt————–NZogbia—————-
    —————————–Smith———————————————
    ——————Martins———–Viduka—————————–

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  • Evan

    Aug 9, 2007 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #40

    I don’t think Milner should ever be overlooked. He must stay in the starting 11.

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