Dyer Going to West Ham and Faye Coming to Newcastle


As we had half expected it looks like West Ham and Newcastle United have finally agreed a compromise deal over the transfer of Kieron Dyer, and the Daily Telegraph is reporting that a deal at £7M has been agreed between the two clubs.

The transfer collapsed almost two weeks ago and we had expected that once things died down a little, the two clubs could still do the deal – since it was both in their interests and certainly within Dyer’s – so he could move nearer his family in Ipswich.

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Kieron Dyer – looks like he gets his move to West Ham

The asking price initially was £5M with £1M added for appearances and Newcastle upped the price to a straight £8M at the last minute when the deal collapsed almost two weeks ago. The compromise deal is understood to involve an initial fee of £6M with the final £1M dependent on appearances. It looks like the added compromise amount is half the extra £2M Newcastle initially asked.

We think this is a sensible deal between the clubs and certainly the potential of Dyer is worth that fee, given some of the inflated transfers that have taken place this summer, for British players with much less experience and skill than Kieron. Dyer, 28, is keen to leave Newcastle, after eight years and 251 matches for the Magpies, to be closer to his long-term girlfriend and kids in Ipswich.

With Dyer leaving, Newcastle manager Sam Allardyce now has more money to invest and is expected to move quickly to complete a £2M deal with his former club Bolton, for Senegalese international Abdoulaye Faye, who can play central defense or defensive midfield. Faye, 29 years-old and 6’1″ tall – was signed by Allardyce in December 2005 from French club Lens, and will link up with his old manager at Newcastle today – when the deal is scheduled to be announced, according to the Telegraph. Faye is on Tyneside today undergoing a medical at the club.

We have no news on Nobby Solano’s situation since he would also like a move to West Ham but this deal can only help Nobby’s case. Solano also wants to move to London to be closer to his estranged wife Claudia and the kids.

We think this is excellent business once again by Big Sam – since Dyers’ heart did not seem to be at Newcastle. With defenders still in short supply, Faye will be an excellent addition to the squad.

That’s what we think – but let us know what you think – comments very welcome.



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24 comments so far

  • apan

    Aug 15, 2007 at 2:29 AM

    Comment #1

    Finally………

    thats all i can say, i hope solano didnt leave though, but if he is lets get at least 1M for him at least, then get a world class midfielder, like riquelme perhaps 🙂

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  • Yaphet

    Aug 15, 2007 at 2:42 AM

    Comment #2

    Just out of curiosity how do the Hamers expect to win anything with players that couldn’t cut it at nufc… way to announce their ambitions….Dyer great player on his day but too inconsistent… fair well to him and hello to a new era of no nonsense players at nufc…..

    Y

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  • geordie_jordan

    Aug 15, 2007 at 2:52 AM

    Comment #3

    good business by BSA… we still need some more players at the club

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  • Gav

    Aug 15, 2007 at 2:56 AM

    Comment #4

    I am more than delighted that Crybaby ( dyer ) is leaving. No point keeping a player when their heart is not for the team. I trully believe dyer has nothing more to give to NUFC. His peak is over or did he ever reach his peak ( nobody knows ). I wish Solano will stay till the end of the season. Charles might not stand in as a right back for the entire season. Should sell Carr ( what a dissapointment ) instead. I’m having a very good vibe about this season. Not because we beat Bolton but with the new players coming in and with the way the Magpies are playing now. Come on Toon Army. Bring back the glory days!

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  • Tito

    Aug 15, 2007 at 2:56 AM

    Comment #5

    I considered Dyer to be one of the deadwood long ago…

    Expensive to keep and maintain like Rolls Royce, but he seldom starts up his engine and show us his power.

    GOOD RIDDANCE!!!

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  • Markus

    Aug 15, 2007 at 2:58 AM

    Comment #6

    A majority of Toon fans will feel relief but Im sure there is a sting in the tail… Dyer loyalty bonus of 2 mil maybe? (though I feel it should be given the other way). As regards Faye, anybody who lets a free-kick bounce on 6 yard line and go in without a reasonably close challenge, let a centre-forward 3 yards freedom on the 6-yard line from a long cross is not one I would like on my squad. Right back/centre back, cover for Viduka as I dont think Ameobi has that strength and a proper left winger. Mind you, it maybe that the 12th man has been strengthened over this summer break that has the real effect this season.

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  • Stephen

    Aug 15, 2007 at 3:42 AM

    Comment #7

    Dyer needed to go but 7 million is a joke.People may think thats great business but i dont look at darren bent 16 million he aint even in the england squad he goes in the squad somtimes dyer is always in the squad and he has being working on his fitness all summer so a fit kieron dyer is worth atleast 10 million chopra and gordon was bought from sunderland for 14 million and dyer is probably better than them put togehter.i know he wants to go and good ridance to him we need players to play for the jersey but he has alot of quailtys and is an international regular.

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  • Lamesley Mag

    Aug 15, 2007 at 5:16 AM

    Comment #8

    A 7 million fee for Dyer is a good compromise and hopefully fund BSAs remaining transfer activities before the window closes end of this month.

    We need a quality RB and cover for CB, LB and CM. Faye is a BSA type player so if he’s good enough for Sam, he’s good enough for me. Go get-em….

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  • Tito

    Aug 15, 2007 at 5:49 AM

    Comment #9

    Stephen – Yes, a perfect Dyer would surely worth around 15 million or around there. Remember Leeds once bid 20 million for him long ago?

    But now… He’s 28 and his game is based on speed. How long more can he be speedy on for? Take out his speed and he is nothing special really. Thats about 2-3 million minus off his value, due to his age.

    Fitness, yes he might be building up his fitness now and he should be very fit now. But his past records? He has injured so many times and came back so many times, saying his injuries are a thing of the past. Yet he injured himself not long later. Remember his injuries are mostly self-inflicted, not tackled by others… Thats another 3 million minus off.

    Wages… he wants big money. he’s earning it at NUFC, but he knows he is being booed at week in week out. Everyone expect so much of him naturally, given his long affliation with the club. he can’t stand the pressure of collecting so much wages at NUFC. Thats another 3 million off…

    Attitude – One of the least professional around I feel. Scandals, quarrels with managers, fight with teammates (or was it punched by teammate instead?) and keep whinning whenever he played out of position, out of 1st team, or family reasons (most popular one nowadays)… 3 million again…

    i feel if your damn bloody wife cannot understand your difficulties as a professional footballer, then might as well leave her!

    So after subtracting the negative things about Dyer, he doesn’t worth that much money it seems. And we get his wages off the bills, we will save abt 8million a year, which is good money to spend on others.

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  • Wes

    Aug 15, 2007 at 5:56 AM

    Comment #10

    Its no good keeping an unhappy player. I am happy that Dyer will finally go and Newcastle can now build on from the good start to the season at the weekend.

    But I still think that Dyer has been sold on the cheap, for an England international, he should be worth more than that.

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  • toonoholic

    Aug 15, 2007 at 6:04 AM

    Comment #11

    why faye ?? why not arteta ! that guy is the most under-rated playmaker in EPL . when B.S signed smith , dint doubt his quality but whether we really needed another striker .. faye is not QUALITY enough ! i did rather give matty a run for his money

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  • Tito

    Aug 15, 2007 at 7:07 AM

    Comment #12

    Wes – Its ok. Milner will soon oust Dyer out of England’s squad.. 😉

    Anyway, England squad players ain’t that great also, isn’t it? The likes of Jermaine Jenas and Aaron Lennon doesn’t link to world class to me.

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  • SS

    Aug 15, 2007 at 7:37 AM

    Comment #13

    Hadn’t really considered Faye to be the standard of player we were looking for – but if Sam has gone back to Bolton for only 1 player that he knows really well, then I for one am prepared to trust his judgement.

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  • Edd Case

    Aug 15, 2007 at 7:44 AM

    Comment #14

    Is it just me or is this below a complete contradiction?

    “The asking price initially was £6M with £1M added for appearances and Newcastle upped the price to a straight £8M at the last minute when the deal collapsed almost two weeks ago. The compromise deal is understood to involve an initial fee of £6M with the final £1M dependent on appearances. It looks like the added compromise amount is half the extra £2M Newcastle initially asked”.

    Whoever wrote this article states, as I’ve quoted above, “the asking price initially was £6M + £1M on appearances” …right?…
    Ok,…..
    Then, later on in the same paragraph….
    “The compromise deal is understood to involve an initial fee of £6M with the final £1M dependent on appearances” !!!!!!!!! WHAT????!!!!!!!!!!!

    IT’S THE EXACT SAME DEAL!!!!!

    Why are people now saying, “A 7 million fee for Dyer is a good compromise”

    IT’S NOT!!!! IT’S EXACTLY THE SAME AS BEFORE!!!

    Anyway, who bloody cares, we ought to give him away with a bag of tea.

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  • Jeff D

    Aug 15, 2007 at 8:27 AM

    Comment #15

    Eh! i like tea!

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  • Ed Harrison

    Aug 15, 2007 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #16

    The initial deal for 5M + 1M additional in appearances – changed it – sorry about that

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  • HulioGeordio

    Aug 15, 2007 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #17

    Good riddance to him, I’m ecstatic. He is has been a waste of money since we signed him. Doesn’t play enough, doesn’t score enough and has cost NUFC loads of money.

    £7m!! we are lucky to get that for this sick note. One of the players Roy Keane is no doubt refferring to, more interested in bling and money than football. He will soon be forgotten and is no where near being one of the Newcastle greats. Couldn’t even lace Beardsleys or Waddles boots.

    About time we got rid of him, I guarantee the player that replaces him does more for NUFC this season than he has in his whole career. Good riddance loser! Keep up the good work Sam, already rid of Bramble and Dyer and alls looking good!!!

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  • big pea ov the weab

    Aug 15, 2007 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #18

    well judgein by the responce on here every 1 cant wate to c the back of him well thats my look on it anyway

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  • Bosck

    Aug 15, 2007 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #19

    Stephen, i think you’re looking at the point the wrong way round.

    £7m for dyer is a good price. Richardson, Chopra and Gordon were overpriced, £16.5m for Bent is an extortionate fee and way overpriced, i’m not saying he is not a good player, but he has 1 years premiership experience and is not an established international.

    Thierry Henry on the other hand is Arsenals highest ever goal scorer, a long standing French international, World Cup and European Championship winner, Fa Cup and Premiership winner. At the moment there is just no comparison and he was bought for £0.5m less than tottenham paid for bent!!

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  • Tom_Toon

    Aug 15, 2007 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #20

    Please do not sign Faye or Neville.

    Only Beletti and Yepes 🙁

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  • Ross

    Aug 15, 2007 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #21

    goodbye sicknote, take your bling bling antics to another club. 🙂

    as for faye, neville beletti and yepes, i think they’d all be good signings. gives the squad depth, however bar enrique we dont seem to be signing many younger players?
    do you think this is purely because big sam wants experience in his squad?

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  • Obafan

    Aug 15, 2007 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #22

    Good thing that Dyer will be out (if it doesn’t collapse again at the end 😉 ).

    I agree with Tom_toon; I also prefer Yepes and Beletti over Faye and Neville.

    – Neville is a player I don’t like.

    – Faye didn’t look secure at the back last Saturday.

    – Yepes; a defender with lots of experience. Formed the heart of the defence with Roz, so they will gel together rather quickly.

    – Beletti; quality RB at Barca so more than welcome to play for the Toon.

    @ Ed: Is this true that Faye is having a medical today in Newcastle??

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  • AndyW

    Aug 15, 2007 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #23

    In fairness to Faye maybe he only looked bad on Saturday because he was up against a motivated, class side who had been coached on how to play him by his ex-mentor.

    Thing is, if we were bringing in some over-priced buffoon (Boumsong £8m), we’d all be saying wow – he must be good!

    I think Sam’s earned a little bit of our trust for the time being.

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  • Obafan

    Aug 15, 2007 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #24

    AndyW – you’re completely right that BS deserves our trust. If Faye comes I hope you’re right and that BS can get him into the team on his best.

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