Emre Not Willing to Fight for Newcastle Place

Newcastle boss Sam Allardyce today dismissed Emre’s comments about wanting to leave Newcastle for Galatasaray in January.

Emre has a contract at Newcastle so why he thinks it’s OK to announce when he wants to leave and where he wants to go to, is a bit of a mystery to us.

Emre signed a 5 year deal with Newcastle in July, 2005, so there is still almost 3 years to run.


Emre – still 3 years to run on his contract at Newcastle

There’s no doubt Emre can be a class player but one problem we have is that he’s always injured. When you add up the number of performance he has made for Newcastle over the two seasons he has been here, the productivity is not good. He has appeared 63 timed for Newcastle with 56 starts. Newcastle have played close to 108 first class games during that period.

Galatasaray, have confirmed their interest in taking Emre back to Turkey but Big Sam is unconcerned about the renewed speculation about Emre’s future. Emre said yesterday: “I want to go back to Galatasaray, and they want me.”

Sam said this morning:

“It’s not an issue at the moment.”“There’s no chance of him going back to Turkey because the transfer window is shut, so he can’t go anywhere.”

The Turkish international central midfielder has not figured yet in Sam’s plans but there again he hasn’t been available due to injury. But with new signing Joey Barton on the way back from injury Emre may find his first team appearances limited this season. Joey is due to return to training the week of September 24th so his return is not too far away.

One deficiency of the Newcastle team this season has been the lack of creativity in central midfield and we’re sure Sam sees Barton providing that. But while Joey is out it has to be a chance for Emre to shine. It’s disappointing to us that he isn’t taking his chance – but rather talks about wanting to leave the club so early in the season.

One thing is for sure, Newcastle shouldn’t let Emre go on the cheap and we need to recover the £3.8M Graeme Souness paid Inter Milan for him a short two years ago. If Galatasaray can’t afford to pay that – tough luck.

Comments welcome.

82 comments so far

  • perry

    Sep 11, 2007 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #1

    If Galatasaray can pay the amount NUFC for him, then sell him. If not, he must fight for his place. I actually likes Emre but his have prove his value to the fans yet.

  • Jerry

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #2

    You cant really blame Emre for wanting to leave. He isnt going to get into the team because Allardyce, apparently, thinks he’s too short! If only he can grow taller huh.

    And all this talk of Alan Smith, and Joey Barton being ahead of him in the pecking order in central midfield is just laughable. Skill for skill, talent for talent, passing ability, dribbling etc these 2 are no match for Emre. That too am sure really ticks him off, that those 2 are ahead of him.

  • pramod-toon roar

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #3

    emre is one of the most under achieving players in the epl. ofcourse he’s been injured most of the time. but whenever he’s come on i think he lacked the pasiion.. hes gives the ball away way too much easily..i think he’s gonna leave in the jan transfer window..

  • Gordon Tan

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #4

    Well Ed, like you’ve said it, its disappointing to hear that from Emre after only just one game from him.

    On the other hand, I personally feel that he’s a solid player and he is the missing link between midfielders and forwards.

    Emre also became a hit when he scored against the Mackems but since then, has been picking up injuries here and there.

    Now that Barton is not even back yet, Emre is already showing the white flag. What the heck? You do not build team spirit by publicly stating that “I want to go back to Turkey” and expects that rest of the team to play with you indifferently?

    Like what we like to say in Singapore; “wake up your damned ideas, Emre!”

  • Lamesley Mag

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #5

    I expect him to leave in January as he’ll see very little first team football at Newcastle.

    Bayern Munich have been mentioned as being interested in Emre, but if Galatasaray can find the money, lets sell him and bring in some one who wants to play for Newcastle!

  • rich

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #6

    I disagree Jerry.

    Smith & Barton are more suited to the EPL, its a physical game and whilst i agree Emre has more skill he cannot utilise it in the EPL., where as Barton & Smith can.

    I agree that Barton, Smith, Geremi & Butt & even Faye should be ahead of Emre as he is not cut for our league, he has no physical stregnth and gets knocked off the ball to easily.

    Not to mention his lack of tracking, the ammount of problems he caused our back 4 over the past few years is unbelievable.

    I like Emre, he was class in Italy but hes never shown any of that talent in the EPL, the only moment of genius i can remember is the winning goal against the Mackems.

    BBC gossip column today reports The Toon are ready to let Emre leave as long as someone matches their £3.5 asking price.

    get him out, and get a stronger, more physical cretive midifielder in.

    his commens also illustrate his poor attitude, once again things like this should be kept in SJP and discussed between Emre, Allerdyce & Mort but for Emre to go straight to the papers just shows you hes not right for our team in my opinion.

    good riddance i say.

  • Bill F

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #7

    Have to agree with Jerry and Perry. The only problem I’ve seen with Emre on pitch is the end product, his finishing for a man of his ability has been abysmal at times.

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #8

    Sell him to West Ham or Sunderland, they’ll pay probably more than what we have :-).
    Regarding Emre’s comments though, I find it strange he voices his opinion after the window’s closed.

    Why didn’t he say anything while Sam was busy offloading Dyer, Solano and Huntington? Strange.

  • CasinoMonkey

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #9

    Sell him to whoever has the cash.
    If he doesn’t want to play for us then let him move on.
    As long as we get what we want for him.

  • Jerry

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #10


    I take your point about the PL being very physical. However, Liverpool have got Alonso who isnt physical, lacks pace, all attributes apparently required for the PL, but h has settled in really well.

    You can use Emre in the PL! Its all a matter of how you structure your team to get the right balance. With your argument players like Riquelme and even Arteta wouldn’t have any place in the PL. That cant be right.

  • dragoner

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #11

    – Jerry

    Xabi Alonso and Mikel Arteta both possess significantly more body balance than Emre so i don’t really see your point as valid

  • Hadji

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #12

    At any given day i would put Emre instead Barton.But if he’s not willing to fight for his place…well,that’s too bad.
    As for Rich comment about causing our back 4 problems.Rich
    Rich..I want you to know one thing.Last season our back 4 sucked BIG BIG time and even if we had Kaka,Ronaldinho in our midfield wouldn’t do any good,so you can’t blame Emre for that really.
    The strikers cannot score that many goals if the back 4 can concede more of what is scored.
    So you’re trying to say because he’s short and he cannot play in EPL,that is so so pathetic excuse of a poor knowledge from some fans who think they know that football is not about physique,it’s about vision and Emre has that vision.Try and put Emre in Arsenal and you’ll see what kind a player he is.
    Fabregas,Arteta,Rosicky, are similar height as Emre but look how they play.
    Emre just doesn’t suit Newcastle’s style of play which is too direct without too many passing.
    I really really hate to put this name into comparison with this case about Emre but i’ll just give you a hint.
    The best goal in the history of football.A similar was scored by Messi against Getafe last season.

  • Johnny JJ

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #13

    I can’t help but thinking that there has been a misunderstanding somewhere along the line.
    It’s funny that this story comes out when Emre’s on International duty and the fact that his quote is about 8 words long. This makes me think that some Turkish journalist is trying to make a name for himself. After all, Emre is massive news over in Turkey.

    What’s the chances of Emre denying he wants to leave when he returns to Newcastle???

  • Jerry

    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #14

    Alonso and Arteta have more “body balance” than Emre? OK try these aother names – Fabregas, Cristiano Ronaldo, and Nani.

    I bet if we had these players they would be on the bench because they ant “hard men” like Alan Smith and Joey Barton and lack body balance. Football is a game played with skill and finesse, its not a physical fight.

  • philsta

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #15

    Emre is a great player if he’s fit and is given the space to run and pass so he’s suitable against some more skill based opponents that don’t close down as tightly i.e European teams or playing at home against less rough teams like Manu. Emre suffers against teams like Blackburn Rovers.

    Emre adds a spark to the team when he’s fit so we should keep him, he can really run with the ball and has good close control although he can be weak on the ball. BSA can use him once every other game or in Europe especially if we need more creativity in midfield.

  • Jerry

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #16

    Hadji – you know your football!

    It just makes me laugh when some NUFC fans talk of Barton as a creative player, and applaud Sibierski and Alan Smith as brilliant players.

  • dragoner

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #17


    Yes Alonso, Arteta, Cristiano and Nani all may not seem like they have the best build when it comes to a physical match but all four use their body balance to shrug the opposing player off, someones body balance is what enables them to hold the ball for longer periods of time when being pressured from the opposition, its not about their physique, otherwise players like , for example, Baptista would not have struggled with the physical game of the premiership

  • dragoner

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #18

    i know Fabregas is a world class player despite his size

  • Hadji

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #19

    One of my favorites who played for Newcastle was Lauren Robert,he was short aswell but that didn’t stop him to score one of the best goals in club’s history.

  • dragoner

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #20

    “Football is a game played with skill and finesse, its not a physical fight” what sort of comment is that to make, how can you generalise a whole sport as being about “skill” and “finesse” when there are so many different ways and strategies to win a football match, im beginning to question what some people on here really want, results? or finesse? Arsenal are the best at finesse but what have they won lately…exactly….and what is normally given as the reason for Arsenal not winning much lately….lack of fighting spirit. If football was about “skill and finesse” then players such as Lampard and Gerrard would have no place in the sport would they

  • dragoner

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #21

    Hadji i understand YOUR point about vision etc, but Jerry just sounds mad that we are not taking the ‘total football’ approach

  • Amornthep K

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #22

    Hi Ed and everyone,
    I like to highlight some information which is unrelated to the above but about Newcastle nevertheless.
    Few months ago, before MA buys out Newcastle, he must have done hid due diligence about prospect and current situation and so on so forth. What is bothering me is why he/Chris Mort came out to say that Newcastle has debt higher than expected. This is weird since Newcastle was a public limited company and that all information must be submit to the SEC as part of their legal disclosure. Such as buying of any types of assets (including players), takeing mortgage, issueing bond and other types of financial related activities.
    Now that all information are there, (reports coming in from SEC) about any types of activities that club engages whether financially related or not. So why in the world would they say that its higher than expected. I think this could be one of their tactic to limit spending last summer. Need to sell in order to buy.
    Although i ve to say that BSA has done wonder job buying and managing money. I m curious as to what others think this could be a stunt pull by Chris Mort/Mike Ashley or is it really higher (but how?).
    If in fact, it was higher then shouldnt SEC has already jump down on FS throat by now because engaging in activities not disclose to SEC and manipulating account.

    Please share some of your though. Thanks

  • Jerry

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #23

    Dragoner – if a player has the ball and another player shrugs you off that is a foul surely. All you need to do is go down and that is what players like Emre, Ronaldo, Robben and co. do. There is no point standing your ground to prove you re some kind of bulldozer.

    If this is the team Allardyce is building then we must be wary. A team that has as its hallmark physical strength at the expense of skill and ability? We need both. And if we have to sacrifice one of our midfield hard men to accommodate Emre skill and subtlety, then we should do that and get him to stay or get RIQUELME.

  • Jerry

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #24

    Dragoner which is why players like Lampard will never be considered GREATS. Name me one non-defender GREAT PLAYER who does not possess skill and finesse.

    Playing hard man football will never get you anywhere, and as for Arsenal wouldnt we want to be where they are now? Regular champion’s league football, won the PL a few times and the FA Cup, all in last 10 years.

  • dragoner

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #25

    finally we agree, yes we do need both, and emre doesnt possess both so if he wants to leave we should let him leave, Riquelme is another player who requires time on the ball to perform to his full potential, players like that arent BEST suited to the EPL and very few of them can adapt, i dont even think Riquelme would be willing to adapt because apparently he is a big ego and would probably resort to publicly complaining about the EPL rather than making the effort to change his game accordingly, just like Baptista did

  • dragoner

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #26

    it doesn’t matter about how a player is perceived by the media etc, all that matters is their contribution to their teams cause, lampards contribution to chelsea is second to none

  • dragoner

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #27

    ok now compare what “nitty gritty, physical” chelsea have won in the last 3 years compared to what “skill and finesse” Arsenal have won in the last 3 years, now you tell me how vital skill and finesse is, i rest my case.

    by the way i regularly attend Arsenal home games so i know first hand that all their team are gifted players, i just dont fink it is essential to winning football matches. it is simply their approach to winning football matches.

  • Jerry

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #28

    What has nitty gritty England won as against the skill and finesse of the Brazilians?

    Now, I rest my case.

  • dragoner

    Sep 11, 2007 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #29

    the fact that you have resorted to talking about international football when we are talking about domestic football shows you have nothing to say against my Arsenal v Chelsea argument, you cant compare premier league to international football, thats just silly

    by the way englands failure is nothing to do with their “nitty gritty” approach, but more to do with their manager, strategy etc

  • Rob Kirton

    Sep 11, 2007 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #30

    If Emre doesn’t want to fight for a place in the team, for what ever reason, it must be a case of “get rid”.

    Re the physical aspects of the game in the EPL, Emre’s stature and his ability to handle the rough and tumble, I was surprised to see the name “Cristiano Ronaldo” mentioned. Have any of you seen him? He’s a big guy who probably towers over any of our midfielders and plays and incredibly physical game (as well as being a great artist with the ball)

    Back to Emre: He has never really delivered what has been promised. I had great hopes when he came – hoping he would be the guy who could deliver the killer pass each and every time. For an attacking midfielder he gets few goals and also precious few assists.

    I don’t think it was ever fully resolved who did what when he played in Midfield with Parker. Those days are gone, Parker also. It loooks like he is likely to go the same way himself.

  • t-g-w

    Sep 11, 2007 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #31

    For an attacking midfielder, Emre doesn’t score enough goals. I would rather have barton in a PL team any day.

  • Cam_Toon

    Sep 11, 2007 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #32

    Hey guys…. look at the stats… Barton scored more last season then our entire midfield… and thats for a poorer side. Emre better than Barton.. give me a break.

  • rich

    Sep 11, 2007 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #33

    i wasnt reffering to his size but his physical side of his game, he gets knocked about too easily, you watch Fabregas and it takes alot more effort ot get him off the ball if you can compared to Emre.

    everyone entitled to their opinions and ive seen most NUFC games over teh past 3-4 years and Emre has never impressed me.

    Just look at his goal record, compare that to bartons goal record, as Sam said we need more goals from midfield something that Emre & Parker cannot do.

    and how you can compare Emre to Fabregas, Kaka & Christiano Ronaldo is beyond me.

    You might aswell compare Thomas Gravesen to Pele.

  • jason

    Sep 11, 2007 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #34

    Lets be honest emre has done nothing since coming to newcastle,when we first signed him I admit I expected him to be a class act but he is just another overseas star that hasn’t cut the mustard as far as I am concerned.
    I think he should stick out the remainder of his contract in the reserves and training with the kids would be good too so he can learn some respect.
    Sam will not tollerate stuff like this and I expect him to be getting a size ten boot up his turkish derriere pronto !!

  • Jerry

    Sep 11, 2007 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #35

    With fans like Rich and Dragones no wonder NUFC have won zero for so long.

    How anyone can even entertain the thought Barton or Alan Smith is a better player than Emre is beyond comprehension.

    Oh well…………

  • AndyW

    Sep 11, 2007 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #36

    On the point of Emre taking his position to the press, if that is reason enough to move him on are we going to ditch Steven Taylor as well?

  • Jerry

    Sep 11, 2007 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #37

    Emre has every right to shoot his mouth off and want to leave. You cant discriminate against a man purely on the grounds of height! That is laughable.

    He has committed no more sin than the perrennialy disloyal and ungrateful Michael Owen, but of course because the latter is English, the “johnny foreigner” will always get a hard time.

  • jason

    Sep 11, 2007 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #38

    Barton would make mince meat out of emre,barton is a box to box player loads of energy and goals,gets stuck in like an animal and I would certainly not like to be playing against him..proper mean machine !

  • jason

    Sep 11, 2007 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #39

    Johnny foreigner…haha I don’t think thats the case-owen got lots of the same stick on these very pages a few weeks ago and I would expect anyone no matter what nationallity steps out of line or disresects newcastle should expect a barrage of comments and more..

  • jason

    Sep 11, 2007 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #40

    p.s get rid of the useless turkish midget 🙂


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