Allardyce Says Taylor Contract Offer Very Good

Sam Allardyce has for the first time talked about the dispute over contract terms Newcastle United have with their 21 year-old England Under-21 captain Steven Taylor.

Sam seems tho think the offer is a very good one and gone are the days when the club will pay almost anything in player’s wages. The club are obviously trying to have some common sense inserted into the contract negotiations.

Given some of the stupid wages Newcastle have paid some players in the past, that’s an excellent move by Charis Mort and Big Sam.

Let’s see what Sam has said about Steven’s contract.


Steven Taylor – contract dispute still to be worked out with the club

Sam told the Shields Gazette today:

“Steven Taylor is a key member of our squad.” “We want him to stay, apparently it sounds like he wants to stay, so hopefully we can resolve the problems.”

“At the moment, we seem to be some way off, but we won’t get sucked into paying somebody that we think is asking for too much.”

“We want to give it a realistic look, and we have already started that process with the likes of Charles N’Zogbia, to push on to Nicky Butt and people like that who are in the last year of their contracts.”

“That’s the next thing we have to do now that the window is shut. Hopefully very shortly, everybody will have agreed and we will have a much more settled camp.”

Sam’s management is style is simple in that he doesn’t want anything that may have the players thinking anything other than on their football. And from what Sam says it looks like Nicky Butt is next in line for a new contract, that’s good because Nicky is now a key member of the squad and obviously loves playing for the big man.

These contract worries can get on players’ minds as Sam went on to explain:

“From my point of view, it’s always a little bit disturbing when people are talking about contracts while you are playing Premier League football.”

“It can upset the player on the field, and that’s the last thing we want.”

Taylor’s father Alf has been handling the negotiations on his son’s behalf and Chris Mort, the Newcastle chairman has already said he will get involved with Alf with the contract negotiations. Alf Taylor had said the first offer was both “disappointing” and “completely inadequate”.

But Sam seems to think the offer is a good one. The contract is thought to be substantially less than that given to Taylor’s Under-21 team-mate James Milner recently.

Sam went on:

“The position is that we offered what we considered a very good contract for a player of his age and his experience, and if they have turned it down, then that’s fine.”

“The disappointing thing is – and I don’t want to get into any slanging matches – is that it was publicized in the papers.” “But I’ll cover that when we get sat down to talk about it again.”

Taylor – who is now captain of the England Under-21 team has led the team to two away victories and clean sheets over Montenegro and Bulgaria during the international break. Steven still has two years left on his current deal so there is no particular rush, but the longer it goes on the more stories there will be in the press about top teams wanting to take Steven in January.

We have to admit we’re not sure why the contract offer to Taylor is substantially less than that offered to James Milner. We understand it’s around 70% of that offered to Milner and have no idea what Charles N’Zogbia was offered.

Sam certainly seems adamant they will not overpay, and it seems he will also get involved with Alf Taylor and Chris Mort in the negotiations. We’ll just have to see how this one sorts itself out – but it’s a little worrying still at this stage.

If you’d like to participate in our Newcastle United Forum on this we already have a topic that allows ongoing discussion of the negotiations.

Comments always welcome.

34 comments so far

  • Callum

    Sep 14, 2007 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #1

    I hope Martins and Owen are near the front of the queue for a new contract too 🙂

  • Alan

    Sep 14, 2007 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #2

    i read the article in the paper in which Taylors father Alf claims the club are maybe trying to force the player out by offering him a poor contract. I think that Alf Taylor has a lot to learn in the art of negotiation and going to the papers wont do his or his sons reputation any good. Making claims that club want rid of the lad and also making reference to other players contracts and what they are earning could cause problems for the lad in the dressing room. His father needs to calm himself down and maybe not think about the lining of his own pockets and then maybe the club will sort Taylor a new contract. 3-0 to the Toon on Monday. Haway the Mags..

  • Hammy

    Sep 14, 2007 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #3

    While Taylor is a very good prospect that is all that he is…a prospect….in my opinion Milner has had a lot more experience…..he has also played sucessfully for both Leeds and Villa.
    If players want to shed their money grabbing image I think they should be more reasonable in their demands…..there have been lots of Newcastle players and some will be good friends of Taylors who have been released by Newcastle and now earn buttons in the lower leagues.
    Sure it is a short career but most of the players in the first team squad will be earning more in a week than the average fans annual salary….don’t forget it is the fans that pay the wages…….either through the turnstyle…merchandise…or Sky subscription.
    Taylor should knuckle down and concentrate on staying in the first team……

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 14, 2007 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #4

    Wow, that’s interesting. Ed. I wonder why Taylor would be offered and amount equal to 70% of Milner’s remuneration? Could it be the amount of competition for that spot? Or positional prejudice (midfielders on average should get more than defenders and stikers on average should get more – not my feelings on the subject but sometimes it seems that way, barring the expcetions) Surely, Taylor should be seen as a future prospect and treated as such and should be on par with Milner and Zog, regardless of position and the competition in defense. Come Mort, write (or get someone to write) the cheque – I’d hate to see Taylor leave over something like this. He deserves a good contract.

  • jeff

    Sep 14, 2007 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #5

    It was wrong of his dad to go public on the contract talks like others have said it will do Taylor no good…I just hope Taylor isnt thinking cos he got calledup to one England first team squad he thinks he has made it,and believes he should be matching wages with those experienced defenders….Taylor as we all know is a very promising young player,but he still has a lot to learn.Yes he played in the first team a lot last season through maybe alot of injuries but will that be the same this season?Time will tell…Sam has bought 5 new defenders so Taylors place isnt guaranteed…I just hope things havent gone to his head and that he thinks he is better than he is …
    Keep your head down Tayls and just keep doing what you have been…

  • big pea ov the weab

    Sep 14, 2007 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #6

    come on steven just put pen to paper we dont want to lose you

  • Alex Brett

    Sep 14, 2007 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #7

    Just sort it out, Taylor is the 1st defender I have seen the Toon produce with real potential for a long long time. He looks the part and I have no doubt that he will be in the England Senior side alongside Terry in 3 years. Get the boy tied up, get a smile on his face and watch him perform!!!

  • Hadji

    Sep 14, 2007 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #8

    Steven will sign that’s for sure.I wonder how much would Liverpool offer him as a weekly wage.

  • ToonKing

    Sep 14, 2007 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #9

    Taylor to Liverpool would never happen. Taylor’s wage being 70% of Milner’s is perfectly logical to me. Milner is a gem, we see him week in week out, he will be huge someday in the future. As for Taylor he’s a good player but not Milner’s quality and not irreplaceable while imo Milne is.
    I love ST but imo: Milner, N’Zogbia > Taylor.

    But he will eventually sign.

  • mkl

    Sep 14, 2007 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #10

    Earlier you said that Newcastle should give ST what he wants:
    “The simple solution is to offer Steven whatever James Milner is getting and if that’s 30K/week so be it. But please let’s get this settled – quickly.” (9/9/2007)

    But now the delay is a good move from Mort and Big Sam:
    “Given some of the stupid wages Newcastle have paid some players in the past, that’s an excellent move by Charis Mort and Big Sam.” (14/9/2007)

    What it is that you think? Don’t just quote and agree everything that is said, every time.

  • Ed Harrison

    Sep 14, 2007 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #11

    mkl – Well i think it’s good Newcastle are getting a wage policy in place which has been needed for a long time but I still don’t understand why Taylor, Milner and N’Zogbia aren’t getting very similar packages.

  • Willowtoon

    Sep 14, 2007 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #12

    Toonking has got it spot on. ST is a prospect and Cacapca is way better and worked his career on much lower wages in the continetal leagues. ST is too close to Anal oliver who trumpets him in the press all the time. ST should find out how much Huntingtons new contract at leeds is.

    He will not get many games this season due to competition and Sam will have no issue putting him 3rd choice to get the point across to ST’s dad.

    MO is on silly money because he is world class and all the talk about established stars won’t get back in the England team due to competition of places there is no one to replace MO as we have seen over the last 12 months.

  • dragoner

    Sep 14, 2007 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #13

    why does everyone rate milner so highly? he is a good prospect yes, but i do not feel he could ever be world class, i hope he proves me wrong obviously

  • Nobby's dad

    Sep 14, 2007 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #14

    There isn’t any logic in expecting Taylor’s wage to be the same as the Zogs and Milners just because they are all roughly the same age.

    IMO Taylor has more developing to do than the other two. Defenders tend to come into their own later than forwards / midfielders (I’ll accept there are exceptions).

    As a club we need to move away from the ridiculous wages we’ve paid for mediocrity. Players should only get more when the club is sucessful – that’s how other business’s work. The reward for success in my job is more money – I don’t get a big rise in the hope I perform.

  • Ed Harrison

    Sep 14, 2007 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #15

    We thought they were about the same skill and contribution to the team. But it may be that Sam doesn’t see Taylor playing as much as last season with the experienced central defenders he has brought in.

  • iain

    Sep 14, 2007 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #16

    taylors dad was keen to compare the situation to carragher and gerrard at liverpool.

    i would bet that gerrard earns substantially more than carra does and hes younger than him.

  • rich

    Sep 14, 2007 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #17

    they are just trying to get as much as possible, its an old agents ploy.

    he will sign as much as i like taylor they are just trying to milk as much of Big Mikes money as possible.

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 14, 2007 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #18

    lol nice name Nobby’s dad – I agree there’s no logic in offering all 3 the same contract just because of their ages. I place them in the same potential pool and must admit with nobody currently competing with Milner forhis position and given the fact that Zog is being played out of position and plays so well there (although Taylor was played at RB which is also out of position) It;s hard to weigh all 3 against each other -which is why I opted for similar contracts as in 5-10 % difference maybe but 30% is a bit too much IMO. But I don’t sign the cheques nor do I coach lol

  • Marguerite

    Sep 14, 2007 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #19

    IMO Taylor is worth just as much as Milner and Zog. Even if you wish to differentiate a degree that I could accept but 30% COME ON.

    I hope I’m wrong but I am sure Sam is not convinced by Tayls and has made a lot of veiled comments about him over the past few weeks then this much lower contract offer says it all to me and fires alarm bells ringing in my head.

    Sam now crowns it by saying he doesn’t want to get into a slanging match but then has a go at Alf saying he should not have gone public, well what is he doing? Perhaps Alf thought this was the only thing left to do, if the club were adamant that was all that was on offer for his son. We all know Tayls wants to stay and is just looking for parity with the other young first teamers.

    I am getting more concerned by the day, they are forcing Tayls out and if this happens I will be livid.

    When it was all going pear shaped, who was out there at 19 and 20 surrounded by ineptitude from senior players around him giving his all and after the game, staying on the pitch amids the boos acknowledging the crowd. He is 100% Newcastle and I want him to stay.

  • Toon Chicken

    Sep 14, 2007 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #20

    dragoner – every one rates Milner so highly because he is a hell of a player. Do you not watch that many games? Milner is one of our most consistent performers, and his commitment to the club is second to none – which is even more impressive given the way the club have messed him about in the past.

    Milner isn’t just one for the future, he’s one for the here and now. To compare Milner, Taylor and N’Zogbia and say they should all be on the same money just because they are roughly the same age and represent their countries at the same level just doesn’t make sense.

  • dragoner

    Sep 14, 2007 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #21

    ye i do watch matches, and i didnt say he wasn’t a good player, but who could he replace in the England squad? SWP Aaron Lennon? Joe Cole?…the answer is no, he simply is not as good as these players

  • dragoner

    Sep 14, 2007 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #22

    answer is none*

  • dragoner

    Sep 14, 2007 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #23

    plus theo walcott is improving and is already ahead of him in the queue to play for England….he is good, but NOT world class, im a proud Newcastle fan but even i can admit that

  • dragoner

    Sep 14, 2007 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #24

    plus Bentley and Pennant must be ahead of him aswell

  • ChrisL

    Sep 14, 2007 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #25

    @ Ed,
    “We have to admit we’re not sure why the contract offer to Taylor is substantially less than that offered to James Milner.”

    You’ve written that like it’s a fact. I was just wondering how we know the offer is about 70% of Milners?

  • Toon Chicken

    Sep 14, 2007 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #26

    dragoner – I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned the phrase “World Class” apart from you. In my opinion it’s a phrase that bandied about far too frequently. How do you define “World Class”? If you mean by representing your country at International level, then yes I believe JM will almost definitely reach that level. If you mean one of the best in the World ie. Ronaldinho, CRonaldo – then no, I doubt he will ever reach those heights – very few players do.
    To compare him with Joe Cole and SWP is unfair as they are both 5 years older than him and have already established themselves as first team regulars. As for Pennant, Bentley and Lennon – I would say JM is if not already on par with those he soon will be, now that he has the chance to cement himself as a regular starter in our team. And he has already proven he has a much better temperament for the game than the first two.
    You are of course entitled to your opinion – but I wouldn’t write young Jimmy off just yet – the lad has all the attributes to go a very long way.

  • dragoner

    Sep 14, 2007 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #27

    toon chicken

    to say Milner is as good as Bentley is debateable i suppose, but you can not seriously say he is as good as Aaron Lennon, or Jermaine Pennant, those two are arguably two of the best English out and out wingers we have right now, that really seems like your letting your passion for the toon get the better of you…but like you said to me, its our own opinions right

    anyway what do you think of Theo?

  • Ed Harrison

    Sep 14, 2007 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #28

    ChrisL – we don’t know for sure that it’s true – it’s just what’s been reported. You’re right we don’t know for sure.

  • dragoner

    Sep 14, 2007 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #29

    by the way i meant ‘World Class’ as in being good enough to cement in a place in the senior England squad

  • Toon Chicken

    Sep 14, 2007 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #30

    Little Theo is the only one that I would say has the potential to be truly “World Class”. But he is likely to become a striker in the mold of Mr Henry, so won’t be much competition for the likes of JM.
    Lennon and Pennant are both good players – they both possess a lot of pace. Whether they become great or not remains to be seen. I don’t like Pennant as a person, I think he’s a little twat actually.
    I think JM has more potential to improve than either of those two – I think what we’ve seen of them both so far could be as good as it gets (remember Dyer’s England debut against Luxembourg??). JM will never be the same sort of player as them, but that’s not to say he can’t forge a successful England career all the same.

  • Toon Chicken

    Sep 14, 2007 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #31

    BTW, when I say “World Class” I mean a superstar.

  • dragoner

    Sep 14, 2007 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #32

    ok i suppose you have a point, i definitely agree with you about Pennant being a twat…but he is a talented one. i still do not feel Milner could be better than Lennon, but then again i rate Lennon very VERY highly, i think his dribbling skills are amazing, the way he shifts his body to beat players is also very impressive…even if he does looks like a fairy when he does it lol!
    i only hope your right about Milner because just like you i would love to see him be a trully great english player, he certainly has the right attitude

  • ChrisL

    Sep 14, 2007 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #33

    Lennon still needs to learn how to cross. Milner has got the hang of that over the last 1/2 seasons. Milner also works his butt off, in his favour.

  • evil dick

    Sep 15, 2007 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #34

    milner has more experience than taylor, so it makes sense to offer a better contract to him. Although 30% more seems alot!

    I just wish these discussions went on behind closed doors. I like football the sport not the soap opera.


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