Sam Allardyce Satisfied With Solid Win

Sam Allardyce was very pleased with Newcastle’s professional performance today, as he got the response from the players he had asked for after Monday game at Derby County.

Newcastle leaped up to 5th in the table above Chelsea who were beaten 2-0 at Old Trafford. Mikel John Obi was sent off with a straight red card in the first half by referee Mike Dean. Aston Villa beat Everton 2-0 and Blackburn were surprisingly beaten at home 1-0, by Portsmouth. Tottenham Hotspur were held at Bolton 1-1.

So the results went Newcastle’s way today and now we are very nicely positioned in 5th place. A very good start to the season – which is exactly what Sam wanted.


Mark Vidukaafter scoring his first of two this afternoon

This is what Sam said after the game:

“We got a great response with Mark Viduka’s goal and that got us off to a good start.”

“We faded a little bit midway through the first half, they scored, but then we sorted it out in terms of what responsibilities we should have, and West Ham faded and we got back into the game.”

The Newcastle manager was forced through injuries into making three second-half substitutions but the reshuffles didn’t seem to upset Newcastle’s flow in the least. In fact when Enrique came on we had N’Zogbia and Milner both out wide and Martins and Smith up front – they seemed to play very well together. Certainly the third goal was beautifully set up. Who said Sam’s sides don’t play good football?

Milner and N’Zogbia playing wide on either flank is something we can look forward to once Jose Enrique settles in at left back. Beye at right-back had a very solid game although he was short of breath when Taylor came on. We thought at first that Habib was the one Taylor was replacing – but it turned out to be Cacapa who sustained a groin strain.

Oba Martins replaced Michael Owen and later Mark Viduka came off with Alan Smith joining Martins up front, before Steven Taylor replaced Claudio Cacapa in defense. Since Cacapa came off after a groin strain, we wouldn’t expect him to play at Arsenal on Tuesday evening. Either Faye or Taylor will probably partner the consistent Rozehnal (who had another good game) in central defense.

Allardyce referred to the formation after Enrique came on as he continued:

“In many ways we looked just as comfortable, if not a little better.”“Charles N’Zogbia looked comfortable wide left, and it gave Jose Enrique a little taste of the Premier League.”

“Habib Beye also got a little taste – though he needed oxygen on the stretcher after making a long run!”

“He had to stay on because Claudio Cacapa had a groin problem.”

We think Beye is in for some wind sprints in training tomorrow 😀

While it’s true that Oba Martins missed an open goal late in the game, which would made the score look very impressive at 4-1, Oba did make the chance for himself and just was a little unlucky not to put the ball in the net. He should have steadied himself and just guided it in – but he still looked menacing when he was on the field.

Sam added:

“It’s a shame he didn’t score because he seized the opportunity himself. But it’s not a costly miss.”

Comments welcome.

36 comments so far

  • Webster

    Sep 23, 2007 at 7:10 PM

    Comment #1

    Saw this one live from Singapore. Solid performance all round though my heart sank when Owen fell and got subbed. Been frequenting this page very often, excellent reports for magpie supporters all over the globe!

  • John

    Sep 23, 2007 at 7:25 PM

    Comment #2

    As a result 3-1 is very satisfactory, no question, and ultimately I’m pretty happy tonight.
    Questions remain though – not negative – just questions…

    Why do we go missing for large portions of any given game when we clearly have it within the side to demolish such teams ?

    Whilst Stevie Harper is a great keeper, possibly the second best understudy in the premiership (after Cudducini), he’s no Shay, who is arguably the best keeper in the premiership and in the top few in the world. Why is he on the bench – just ‘cos Harper has played well ?

    Oba’s miss is worrying – in another game it would have cost us 2 points. I know it happens but he needs to grow up a bit.

    Finally, thank God Ameobi didn’t play any part…nice lad … but has no place in our squad and it’s time it was recognized.



  • Dirk

    Sep 23, 2007 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #3

    Great manager + Great team = result 😀

  • Lull

    Sep 23, 2007 at 7:37 PM

    Comment #4

    Ed, what is the latest on our player injuries? I hope Owen and Cacapa injuries are not that serious. A great win today by the way 🙂

  • Sinead

    Sep 23, 2007 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #5

    John ..thank you. Some sense at last.

  • Ed Harrison

    Sep 23, 2007 at 7:39 PM

    Comment #6

    Lull – just put an article up on Owen – not clear with Michael whether it’s his groin re-injured or new injury. We don’t know about Cacapa but it looks like groin strain. Owen definitely out for Tuesday and 95% sure Cacapa will be too.

  • Ed Harrison

    Sep 23, 2007 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #7


    1) That’s what we were wondering – they seem to score and then defend – and they really let West Ham come at them. But Sam pointed this out and it was not under orders to go defensive. So agree there.

    2) Think Sam finds it hard to drop harper – becasue he’s done absolutely nothing wrong. SDhay back Tuesday so we’ll take it from there. On our poll 3 out of 4 though Shay was better keeper.

    3) It was a bad miss by Oba but he made the chance himself – that’s Oba – not a good time to worry – he needs more playing time that’s all. Thought he looked good when he was on. We like Oba a lot – next superstar if Sam handles him right. Let’s not worry when as Sam said – it didn’t matter.

    4) Shola – terrible on Monday – when he gets next chance he needs to shine like the sun – because we feel his time is running out at the club.

    We still have a lot of improving to go – no questions there – but the good thing – is we will improve over this season.

    If we had won on Monday we’d be 2nd top.

  • Rocky

    Sep 23, 2007 at 8:14 PM

    Comment #8

    SInead and co. Give Harper some credit, it;s taken him 15 years to make 16 appeareances! He has been with us so long, he desrves the chance to have a run out, especially now that he is having a good run. No keeper in this world wud have saved that Ashton shot today, it was a class strike. I agree he’s not a great organiser or shouter but no players are alike. I watched Cech race out of his goal to give Mikel an ear bashing when he made a mistake.

    Say BS dropped him and brought back Given, what kind of message would that send to the rest of the team? Play 2 the best of ur abilities but i’m gonna drop u when the big boys are back! Not good for team morale.

    However, I am a bit worried if Given is not getting any games, then Arsenal sure could be making enquiries in January.

    I’d love to see the following team on Tuesday

    Given / Harper

    Enrique – Rozenhal – Taylor – Beye

    NZogbia – Geremi – Butt – Milner

    Smith & Martins

    Owens, Viduka, Cacapa injured of course

  • Sinead

    Sep 23, 2007 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #9

    What kind of message is he sending to the team by bringing in the better player just cause the other one hasn’t done anything wrong.
    Well he’s allready pretty much done that with Owen.

    If he plays Given on Tue that’s basically saying that he’ll play the better keeper against the better team..that’s a joke.

    If he doesn’t play Given against Arsenal we can safely say that sadly and it will be really, really sad, it’ll be more then likely goodbye to Given. Which is the last thing I want anyway, I’d say it’s the last thing he wants aswell like not sure about Sam though. Shay seems, well seemed happy at Newcastle like and he’s got a lot of friends there he’s said he doesn’t want to leave but if he’s been offered a way out, first team football at a better club (when I say that I mean title challengers) then he sadly has why should he stay.

    Great send off though, to the most dedicated loyal outstanding player Newcastle’s had over the last God knows how many years, a pretty much a stab in the back. Sadly though that will more then likely happen and it’ll probally come down to wether or not he gets a game against Arsenal.

    And you know like I said even if he does, if he’s played against Arsenal and then not played on the weekend what’s that saying, ya we’ll play him just against good teams. Seeing as Harper’s made little mistakes we’ll leave him in, till he screws up.

    What kind of attitude is that like?? You don’t see the likes of Man U or Arsenal or Liverpool having that kind of attitude, they don’t keep the better player on the bench to spare someones feelings, who mightn’t of made many mistakes but everyone knows that the player on the bench is better, Fergie or Wenger or Rafa, they’re not that stupid, it’s simple enough tactics, the better player plays, it mightn’t seem fair but well it’s not and that’s life. They’re not worried about this lovey dovey crap, the better player plays. It’s that simple.

    Either way, more then likely, only one of those keepers will be left come the end of the season. And the way Sam’s acting right now it’ll be Given who’ll be gone and Newcaslte will be the worse for it, or will they the way alot of ye are talking it doesn’t seem like ye’ll miss him.


  • Willowtoon

    Sep 23, 2007 at 8:58 PM

    Comment #10


    We now have a squad and Given will have to wait for his chance. In SBR early days he shared the role with Harper and then got the no 1 keeper. Did Harper sulk and threaten to leave No. He played back up. If Given does not want to be a team player then he will move on but I doubt it, he knows exciting times are ahead for Newcastle and he wants to be part of it.

    5th in the league with a game in hand and your still moaning and looking for negative fgs

  • Craig F

    Sep 23, 2007 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #11

    Sinead – How can u say Shay has been the ‘ most dedicated loyal’ player? Harper has been at the club 16 years as understudy without causing any bother – thats loyalty!

    In my opinion there’s no way it’s anything like ‘if he doesn’t play at Arsenal that’ll be it’! However if u’re right and it does happen then you’re right it is sad – sad that such a senior and accomplished player can’t take the fact that he’s out of the team on merit with good grace and fight to get back in it. If he does feel like that it wouldn’t upset me if he did leave – fair enough he may be better than Harper but from what i’ve seen this season he’s not that much better!

    Given will probably play on Tuesday and barring cock-ups i can seeing him staying in the team all season. That will be good enough for me cos i’m sure he’s a lot more professional than you make him out to be!

  • Sinead

    Sep 23, 2007 at 9:17 PM

    Comment #12

    Harper knew full well Given was better then him, miles better, he still is. Harper wasn’t getting offers left right and centre.
    Exciting times ahead for Newcastle?? Isn’t that what ye always say….every season. Talking like you’re doing him a favour here now like. Like ye’re too good for him.
    He’s done more then enough for Newcastle, why should he have to wait.

    I don’t like the way it’s run I can’t help that. There’s too much bias there.

  • craig

    Sep 23, 2007 at 9:59 PM

    Comment #13

    hrmm..dont really know where you are going with the crazy bye bye given chat. he aint going nowhere. where is he gonna go when the transfer window is closed. harper is having a good run. simple. given is not gonna whine because he is bench warming. /He will be back in the first team soon enough. why take an in form player off because our better goalie is fit. leave him in while he is doing well. shay will be back. he will not leave newcastle. he loves it here.

  • apan

    Sep 23, 2007 at 10:59 PM

    Comment #14

    the players in form keep their post, is as simple as that and from what i saw today from harper performance boy he sure deserved it, lets bash up arsenal this tuesday! im sure given will play, so does enrique who look impressive for a brief entrance and hopefully emre will start to prove his worth

    BUT NO SHOLA PLS! Smith is far way better than shola at least he fights for the ball

  • Sinead

    Sep 23, 2007 at 11:10 PM

    Comment #15

    Apan, how do you know Given isn’t on form Sam wont give him the chance. Given is better then Harper, we know that but because Harper hasn’t made many mistakes he gets to stay there??
    Right so Rooney was injured he was out, young Eagles was up front, he didn’t put a step wrong really but he was droped, whys that..cause Fergie knows full well that Rooney is a class apart. It’s the same with Shay and Harper, everyone knows, 3 out of 4 people here apparently, know that Shay is by far the better keeper but Sam doesn’t seem able to see that.

  • phoonck

    Sep 23, 2007 at 11:19 PM

    Comment #16

    Its contradicting here. If BSA chooses ordinary Harper over the better Given because Given was out through injury and Harper hasn’t done anything wrong yet to be dropped, then i hope BSA can explain what wrong has Martins done that he was dropped when Owen came back from injury?

    Don’t get me wrong, i do like BSA, he has brought in good players with little money, much less than the 2 before him. He has also changed Newcastle from top to bottom and we looked a good team now, if not better.He’s done extremely well in all aspects, but it still got me baffled over the Harper-Given vs Owen-Martins treatment. Inconsistent. Is it an act of favoritism or there is something happening that we do not know, internally?

    I hope Given will be restored soon, because for me, I’d choose Given over Harper any day. and I’d love to see how Owen and Martins fare in partnership with Viduka in a three-pronged attack formation of 4-3-3, favored by BSA.

    Back to Newcastle vs West Ham. We played well, and we were moving the ball well around the pitch. But Newcastle was disappointing in sitting back after taking the lead in the 3rd min. Today’s game revealed yet again we are missing creativity in midfield, and needed N’Zogbia to provide for our strikers, twice. Our movement was at its best when N’Zogbia was moved up to midfield when Enrique was introduced and given a taste of premiership football. When we had N’Zogbia and Milner out wide, it was flowing football and pleasing to see. It will be exciting when we have our creative midfielders back from injury, namely Barton, Emre and Duff.

    Hopefully this time round, its really GOOD TIMES AHEAD.. 5th in the table with a game in hand is good result.

    Howay the Lads! regards,
    PHOONCK (Singapore)

  • Sinead

    Sep 23, 2007 at 11:24 PM

    Comment #17

    Phoonck thank you, bang on. Favourtism, bias, even with the fans, they want Owen back ASAP but no Given can wait.
    Double standards all the way, now why we don’t know. Just absolutley everything I’ve been saying, good to see someone else that’s not completley blind with Newcastle bias..

    Seriously though, bang on, agree with ya all the way..except the liking Sam..there’s something about him I just don’t like.

  • phoonck

    Sep 23, 2007 at 11:54 PM

    Comment #18

    Anyway, Ed Harrison/Ahmed Bilal, the stats page is showing the wrong info about the table. We played 6, won 3, drawn 2, lost 1.. not lost 2 🙂


  • toonfan

    Sep 24, 2007 at 12:01 AM

    Comment #19

    Great 2nd half performance from the boys, first half we gave the ball away to often with direct passing….
    Viduka was fanatastic his hold up play is second to none, N’Zogbia man of the match by along way… Milner struggled today just didn’t get alot of it and didn’t use it aswell as he would like, maybe could do with rest against Arsenal and play Zog up further and give Enrique his chance.
    My ratings for players performance:
    Harper 8
    Beye 7 Rozenhal 7 Cacapa 7 N’Zogbia 9
    Smith7 Butt 8 Geremi 7 Milner 5
    Viduka 9 Owen 6 (Martins 6)

  • Jóhann

    Sep 24, 2007 at 1:09 AM

    Comment #20

    Few words about Harper and the debate. Stop crying already, just deal with that Sam thinks Harper is the better one. Tell me you are half the manager Sam is and then I will value your opinion beside his. I read someone talking about Harper and his “slip” early in the game. Are you kidding me? More like a save, he just got his toes to the ball and there was no way that player that got the ball was every going to score there with defenders right in front of him. Harper is so sound really. He saves the saves he ought to save and doesn´t have any showcase. He is very calm and that is really infectious you got to realize that. Hopefully come the end of the season most of you will realize why Harper was chosen ahead. He´s clearly the better all around keeper imo and I have no reason at all to be biased like clearly some of you seem to be Givens best friend. Give me a break. Given is a keeper that makes his saves look good. Harper aint no showcase.
    And it will be frightening when he gets more confidence in taking authority and screaming at his defense and going for more balls in the area. Then you´ll see

  • Darren

    Sep 24, 2007 at 1:18 AM

    Comment #21

    BSA rates Harper over Given, I told you lot 3 weeks back & got sh!t for it, end of story, nothing we can do about it. just enjoy the victory & the heady heights of fifth!

  • geordie_jordan

    Sep 24, 2007 at 3:24 AM

    Comment #22

    shay is the better keeper imho. but harper is having a great run of form and i see no reason why sam shouldn’t keep playing him while he is in such great form. bsa is not playing “favorites” he’s just playing the in form keeper

  • azza jones

    Sep 24, 2007 at 3:37 AM

    Comment #23

    I wish everyone would stop complaining about the keeper situation….Harper is doing a good job and deserves he’s chance. He’s loyalty must be repaid and Given must wait for his chance like everyone else.
    Owen was played instead of Martins due to his good goal scoring form (for england unfortunately) but is injured again so Martins will get a run now.
    Lehman is on the bench for Arsenal, Saha, Kalou started on the bench for Man U and Chelsea. Its called being in a squad. I know this seems like a foreign concept to most NUFC supporters (because of our horror injury run) but thats what the manager gets paid for to select the team and while he is getting the job done lets get behind the team!!!
    If we can beat Arsenal and Man City away this week we will be flying!

  • iain

    Sep 24, 2007 at 4:45 AM

    Comment #24

    could it just be that in training sam sees something in given that means hes left on the bench ?

    hes not been the same since harewood nearly killed him, maybe thats playing on his mind and stopping him coming for crosses/coming off his line in training something sam will have spotted and until shay starts doing things right in training he wont get back into the team.

    even in the recent ireland game shay was fine with his reflex saves becuase they require no thought there reflexes, but his kicking lucky nervy like hes waiting for his groin to go again.

    owen looked like he wouldnt last until half time today right from the off, which i agree would make my above reasoning for sam leaving shay out even more baffling.

    personally i think sam has played owen on purpose knowing his groin would go sooner rather than later to avoid owen getting injured on int duty and us looking like mugs again getting him fit for england games. now it seems owen has to have surgery and will miss englands games, thats surely in our favour getting him 100% fit or as close as his body can get to that for our games and not rushing his recovery for englands benifit.

  • apan

    Sep 24, 2007 at 6:11 AM

    Comment #25


    Bobby Robson also choose Harper over Given remember, so u mean his an arse too? given is injured, no match fitness plus harper is on form even the commentator agreed so why so much hatred in ur post? is logical and make sense right with a little favouritism i reckon, but both our keeper are quality, as long as we are winning games and harper doesnt make mistakes chill down ive been seeing ur post bashing harper all over! i wonder are u supporting the club or a player, weird…..and to say that given is better than haroer perhaps ur right, but harper also didnt play as much games as given rite, so chew on ur words pal! this is what we call competition in the squad, all players will play better and harder because they are no guaranteed first choice, heck watch arsenal even almunia is playing ahead, cos his blunder? perhaps but then again almunia is on form and lehmann needs to prove his worth again to get that spot same ol story

    martins and owen perhaps owen form in international was inspiring plus with martins missed yday im sure BSA will be less convinced but somehow i think martins still got the potential his still young, and owen well its a league in england, england players reputation price tag fees bla2 u know the drill

    EAGLES was nowhere near rooney and he played crap u idiot & his a reserve player for god sake, tried comparing kasper schmeichel and issakson that makes sense, kasper on form issaskson injured, issakson back but kasper on form so he gets the nod…plus issakson doesnt have any match fitness….yes same story with harper and given, plus harper is also experienced so logically better arguments, and it is a wonder goal on derby again fyi thanks

  • apan

    Sep 24, 2007 at 6:14 AM

    Comment #26

    azza jones – spot on!

  • Toon Chicken

    Sep 24, 2007 at 8:47 AM

    Comment #27

    Sinead – are you Given in disguise?

    Shay will definitely start on Tuesday, and I’m sure the Wenger boys will give him plenty to do – so so long as he doesn’t have another “Dublin” moment or owt daft like that – his class will shine through and he will soon be NUFC’s number 1 again.

    I think Harper deserves a lot of credit though for his performances this season. Yes there have been a couple of errors here and there, but it happens to the best of them.

  • Hammy

    Sep 24, 2007 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #28

    Sinead, has Harps stood you up or something????
    Harper and Given are great friends and the first person to congratulate/wish him luck will be Shay, Harper has been very patient, never complained and performed to his best when asked…..he could easily be somebody elses first choice keeper. I think the toon are lucky to have TWO great goalies.
    Shay will be back between the sticks soon enough and he isn’t going anywhere.
    Let’s move on……

  • Bailey

    Sep 24, 2007 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #29

    Given is a far superior keeper to Harper who is nothing more than average and has gone for the cushy life at Newcastle. I would rather have Krul anyway.
    Fully agree the comparison with Owens and Martins. I think Martins offers a better all round game anyway and is always likely to do the unexpected. Has anybody considered how Martins must have felt when he was watching Ameobi’s pathetic full 90 minutes against Derby. How much longer are people going to spout on about him being young he never was and never will be any good.
    If Mr Allerdyce had to be off work for a few weeks and NUFC then went top of the league under Nigel Pearson would he then take up the assistant managers job until Pearson lost a few games. OF COURSE HE WOULD NOT.
    The same in any other type of working life assistants /reserves are just that.

  • Rab

    Sep 24, 2007 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #30

    Sinead, how can you say Harper doesnt deserve a chance? Given is a great keeper if not one of the best but Harper deserves his chance! He’s played excellent since coming in. I’m sure Given is happy to fight for his place. Now stop ranting!

    Im sure BSA is trying to create the right attitude within the Newcastle camp showing that everybody should fight for a place in the starting 11!

    With regards to Owen, how could he not pick him after that finishing for England?!

  • Sinead

    Sep 24, 2007 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #31

    Apan. I don’t like Sam, I didn’t say anything else about any other managers.

    Given WAS injured, WAS not IS. CHrist ye love a drama don’t ye.

    Lets see he played 2 really good games for Ireland and that was after being out for ages. SO imagine what he’d be like when he gets a couple of games. You say that he doesn’t have match fitness, and why would that be, oh ya cause he hasn’t been played. Harper is ordinary..just ordinary, “Given makes is saves look good” bull, Given’s saves look good cause they are good, he can make saves Harper can’t.

    So much for loyalty, I thought, well I was told that Toon fans were some of the most loyal fans in the game, obviously not, ye want the better keeper to sit on the bench for an ordinary keeper, a keeper might I add saved ye countless of times in the past, yet look how quickly ye forget something like that when ye’ve been unbeaten in a couple of games (against bottom half teams) in the other forum they’re saying, Duff who?? Ye’re screaming for Ameobi’s head after 2 bad games, get rid of get rid of get rid of that’s all ye here.

    How could GIven not be picked after his saves for Ireland?? It’s double standards it’s like talking to a brick wall with ye, why can’t ye just except the fact that Sam for some reason or another is keeping the better keeper on the bench, ya Eagles was a horrible example but I couldn’t think of anything else at the time, but my point was other teams who win things, not just talk about it..don’t have this crapy lovey dovey attitude, the better player plays (unless they’re playing horribly, which we don’t know cause we haven’t seen him play for Newcastle yet this season except once). That’s it. It’s that simple.

    People here are talking about Champions League place, yere having a joke right?? Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea are streets ahead they’ve all got world class players and world class managers (well Chelsea did, even though I hated the man). They make smart desicions and the play the better players 90% of the time, and it’s the right call.

    Can no one else see the fault in not playing the better player just to reward loyalty, are ye that blind?? Can ye honestly say for a second that that’s the right desicion.

    Last time I checked Lehman IS injured.

    Open yere eyes, if Given isn’t played for the Arsenal game then he more then likely will be gone come January.

    Either way, Newcastle will more then likley be without one of the keepers at the end of the season. One of them will more then likely leave and by the way it’s going it looks like it’ll be Given, talk about living in denial everything isn’t rosey, it hasn’t been a problem over the last couple of years cause Given has rightly been playing, none of ye complained about, Harper mightn’t publicly, but somewhere he knew that Given is the better keeper and he still is. So he couldn’t have any complaints. But now it is a problem Harper’s got a taste of first team football and he wants to keep it and he’s 32 aswell like, he’s still got a couple of years left.
    Given is the better keeper, he worked his arse off to get back after being injured, not everyone has mental strength like that. Given hates not playing and what it’s shown of the bench he doesn’t look to pleased about having to sit out. We all know that he’s better and unlike Harper Given’s gotten offers left right and centre and he didn’t take them, he was getting first team football at Newcastle and he was happy, now he’s not.
    It’s one thing trying to keep strikers happy but you can’t keep both keepers happy, you just can’t. Sam doesn’t seem to concerend about that the transfer window is a bit away yet. But come the end of the season or the next window oppening, one of them will more then likely be gone.
    Face facts, stop living in denial. This is more then likely the last season both will be playing on the same team together. Ya their best friends but it gets to a point where it isn’t enough, first team football is what they want and only one of them will get it, you can’t keep both happy, it’s not like outfield players you can’t keep rotating them it just doesn’t work.
    Either way, baring some miracle the team sheet wont say both Given and Harper next year. Why can’t ye see that.

  • Sinead

    Sep 24, 2007 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #32

    RAb I never said Harper doesn’t deserve a chance, he’s been given a chance, maybe Given deserves his chance.
    Harper had the majority of last season with Given out and he’s had the entire season so far, and he’s done ok. BUt that’s the stretch of it, he’s ok, he’s an ordinary keeper. Given isn’t, he’d do better.

  • Dirk

    Sep 24, 2007 at 9:24 PM

    Comment #33

    sinad – your coment on eagles being in wen rooney was injured is the same to harper steppin in for given is completely different. harper makes saves and saves the match and does it brilliantly eagles did do something wrong! he didnt score! if hed scored then he would hav stayed in for sure and rooney would hav fought for a place. completely diff situation neway.

  • Sinead

    Sep 24, 2007 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #34

    Did I not just say that Eagles was a horrific example??
    But like eh, are you joking me. Are you actually telling me that Fergie would play Eagles instead of Rooney if he had scored alot..and you’re being serious..right. OK. Trying to make an argument out of that?? Dear God, do ya actually believe that, even though maybe that is what ye’re all thinking, looking at the arguments off some of ye maybe Sam’s thinking the same, no wonder ye won nothing if that’s ye’re attitude.
    Seriously though, are you serious. I think you actually prooved my point.

    Ya Harper has made a couple of good saves he’s also cost goals.
    Shay is alot better then Harper.

  • Rab

    Sep 25, 2007 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #35

    “RAb I never said Harper doesn’t deserve a chance” so what has he done wrong to have his current opportunity taken away? Played really well……. erm? great messsage to the rest of the team!

    I think until he has a mediocre game BSAis pretty much stuck in his decision. I agree overall Given is the better keeper but when Harper is playing so well its difficult to swap keepers.

  • apan

    Sep 25, 2007 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #36

    he doesnt like BSA thats why…..

    ameobi is 25, playing with the greats like shearer & etc but never fulfilled his potential after 7 years at tyneside…0.16 goals per game is not really a good stats for a striker u know…….

    given was always my fav goalkeeper but harper is on form currently so his the better of two currently and BSA wants to instill fighting spirit so that people in the team all know they got a chance to play with their form, not their reputation….its not the England team where reputation comes first….given will play tonite so jump off ur couch alritey, if he performed tonite im sure he can grab that spot back or perhaps if harper slips up this weekend, so stop whining about given harper issue already


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