Final Reflections on the Arsenal Newcastle Game

So it seems that it’s all back to doom and gloom in Newcastle now that we are out of the Carling Cup.

But hey, let’s not get too disheartended and remember the defense played very well in the first half and were even a tough nut to crack in the second.  We’ll not be playing too many teams as good as Arsenal this season – thank goodness.

Here are our final reflections on the game last night – but a win at Manchester on Saturday will do wonders to restore our spirits.


Oba Martinsnegative criticism is not what he needs right now

  • We were beaten by a better team on the night – let’s be truthful about that.
  • Our best chance to win something is probably gone for the season although there’s still the FA Cup and hope springs eternal on Tyneside. But our major goal this season has to be to finish high in the league so we qualify for Europe. If we can finish in the top 6 that has to be looked on as being tremendously successful in Sam’s first season.
  • We still have a long way to go to to match the players and organization that a team like Arsenal has. They have so many great young players it’s a little ridiculous. But Chris Mort has already indicated that we will search the world for good youngsters we can bring to Newcastle – so our strategy is almost to replicate what Wenger has done. However, how he consistently does this we just have no idea – he’s a bit of a genius.
  • The game was very good for the players last night. It was a tough game played at phenomenal pace and players like Enrique and Beye will be that much better (and fitter) now having played the full 90 minutes last night. Although the lads were obviously tired near the end let’s give them credit for showing real guts and determination.
  • We Geordie fans are very fickle. When we win everything is just great – but when we lose everything is doom and gloom. That’s not a criticism because I’m like that – and my wife is always ready to let me know 😀
    But maybe we should just recognize that for what it is. We can guarantee that if we play well and win at Manchester on Saturday everything in the Newcastle United garden will be rosy again. We’ll be in the top 4 – then just read the comments on this site 😀
  • But let’s try to keep the faith through the thick and thin and help the lads and the management. Because it’s clear we have a team both on and off the pitch that truly wants to bring the great times back to Tyneside – we need to support them in both good and bad times. Maybe there’ll even be some good times soon.
  • The next goal for us is to get the boys ready for Saturday when we have the 12:45 pm early game at Manchester City. We should be able to play a strong side there but we know Owen is now out for at least 3 weeks. Poor Oba missed 3 good chances last night and one on Sunday but now’s just not the right time to be too critical of the boy. Oba seems to be lacking in confidence a bit right now – but we all know he’s a great little player. Those at Manchester on Saturday let’s ensure we support the lads for the full 90 minutes – we are going to win more games than we lose this season.
  • Let’s keep the faith – even after we lose 😀

Comments always very welcome.

23 comments so far

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 26, 2007 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #1

    I’m not too fussed by our CC exit. To manage my own fickleness, I’ve only set the expectation of euro footy at the end of the season. Whatever we might say or do, we all secretly know we’re in for a rollercoaster of a season with new owner, new chairman, new coach, new backroom staff, injuries and lots to mend. finishing 5th to me would also be a bonus, but a welcome one no doubt! 🙂 I’ve set my hopes on a euro spot though and I’m confident we can achieve that – barring any more injuries to key players!I’ve already put last night aside and am looking forward to man city. It’s gonna be a cracker. GO TOON!

  • Tom_toon

    Sep 26, 2007 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #2

    Seeing the way the Arsenal youngsters played last night i wouldnt be suprised if they went to the final again + 7 of them were in last years final team and 2 of the remaining 4 have played in the premiership before.

    Glad to see Emre doesnt want to leavr, ive been a big fan of his for ages, not found his good form for us though. Sure he will.

  • Lamesley Mag

    Sep 26, 2007 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #3

    Have to concentrate on our next game and hopefully 3 points against Man City. It was good to see Beye and Enrique play 90 minutes, plus Emre getting a run out.

    Martins needs to find his goal scoring boots as we’re creating chances; just need to start putting them away…….

  • hadrian

    Sep 26, 2007 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #4

    there is no light at the end of this seasons tunnel , if were turned over so easily by a group of 17 year olds .
    as much as big sam was a breath of fresh air , id assumed he’d switch it up a little to match the quality we have in the squad . instead he’s still booting it and running , and that will only work for us with viduka in the squad , even then its a shite way to play .

  • geordiejordan

    Sep 26, 2007 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #5

    like craig my sights this year are on europe, blooding our new players, getting rid of the dead wood (shola, baba, carr et al), having sam’s backroom staff help eliminate our injury problems and getting some people good players in january. anything else would be a plus

  • Ozzie dave

    Sep 26, 2007 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #6

    Keep up the positive vibe your spot on what you say about us Geordies

  • Tom_toon

    Sep 26, 2007 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #7

    Hadrian – 1 player in the team was 17.

  • apan

    Sep 26, 2007 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #8

    agreed with the positive aspect,

    now lets get over the CC and focus on gettin on europe, thats our main priority now, EUROPE QUALIFICATION – Better quality players will come

  • Gooner Ali

    Sep 26, 2007 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #9

    Bravo Magpies, well said Sir.

  • hadrian

    Sep 26, 2007 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #10

    tom-toon , you got my point , no need tobe pedantic .
    end of the day they walked over us , all i heard was arsenal on the ball ,
    we had a squad we would put out in the prem , arsenal had a squad he wouldnt put out in the prem just yet .

  • Steely

    Sep 26, 2007 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #11

    I’ve just read that Ameobi has a groin strain! THERE IS A GOD!! Hopefully he’ll be out for a nice spell!
    On a more worrying note, that’s 3 groin problems in a week (Owen, Cacapa and Shameobi) – there’s a distinct whiff of the problems we had 18 months ago here…

    Nothing too horrible from last night. It think the game was just 24hrs too soon. A nice FA Cup run and anything from 6 up will be a great season to be honest.

    I know it’s a long way off yet, but from the games played so far, does anyone have any ideas as to who might come go in the New Year transfer window?

    I think Carr, Ameobi, Babayaro are all out on there ears.

    Any ideas of the ins?

  • w2

    Sep 26, 2007 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #12

    emre important 4-3-3 player. creative and combative on his day. we can’t play without viduka that’s the problem. we can’t go out playing hoping to stop opponents from playing their football especially against the better teams in thsi case arsenal we have to play our own game just the way liverpool man u and arsenal play every game. if we can’t play our own game properly so there is no hope.

  • Tom_toon

    Sep 26, 2007 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #13

    7 of those ‘kids’ go to the final last year.

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 26, 2007 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #14

    Hadrian, the defence did well to hold out until the last 7 minutes. We know Beye is not as fit as he can be and that Ameobi was wasted on the flank. Don’t forget, the team did create some opportunites and unfortunately, Oba’s sharpness was lacking a bit, Viduka is carrying a knock and quite a few seniors are knackered. I believe Joey was warming up on the sidelines during the game, Emre came back (still not at peak performance) I doubt it’s all doom and gloom. In fact, I see the opposite, but that’s just my view.

  • Hadji

    Sep 26, 2007 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #15

    Well…. we had 2 games in 3 days,and 70 % of the Arsenal’s team only played in the previous leg of the Carling Cup.

  • Derek Adams

    Sep 26, 2007 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #16

    I am an Arsenal fan and I thought Newcastle played well, especially in the first half. They almost had a goal from a header that was well saved and were close to an equaliser. They played decent football and did not try to kick their way to a win (which is what I expected from Sams team). I agree with Sam when he said a load of these “youngsters” are exprienced the team was far stronger than the one that played in the same round last year. They were not kids as has been widley reported. Top 6 is possible if they keep it up.

  • Stevep

    Sep 26, 2007 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #17

    Man City will be a tough nut to crack away from home – I’d be happy enough with a draw – don’t see how we can expect to basically win every game other than against the top four

    we’ll def get beaten if we play 4-3-3 no matter who plays – reckon it’ll take the players at least half the season to get used to playing that way

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 26, 2007 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #18

    AS an aside, I understand Milner didn’t have a good game last night. If this is true, then that’s 3 below par performances including derby & the hammers.

    I’m hoping he bounces back to the form we know he’s capable of producing against city. Maybe he needs to get used to there being another wing now :D. Whatever it is, James, get cracking against city – we know you can.

  • Tom_toon

    Sep 26, 2007 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #19

    We need creativity and flair in midfield why not tey Ali Karimi or some othe rIranian prospects there are alot of goods ones atm. Milner can learn from the ledgend that is Karimi.

  • the big p

    Sep 26, 2007 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #20

    The advantage in the game was all towards arsenal, and Newcastle were defending very well against a talented team.
    First the had a home advantage, second we were playing 48 hours after beating an inform team, third we lost Viduka and Owen and were without Duffy and Barton our attack was seriously dented, fourth they put out a completely fresh team that was not exuasted from competitive football.
    Newcastle did defend very well and still opened up a few oportunities.
    We should have been playing on wednesday, if we had played Westham on Monday it sounds we still would have been playing on Tuesday!!!
    Plenty more football to play yet, I think we are just warming up.
    Dont count out a top 4 finish or Challenging for the F.A. cup.

  • IziRascal

    Sep 26, 2007 at 6:56 PM

    Comment #21

    I’m an Arsenal fan who was at the game last night and thought Newcastle did play well. However, you were particularly good in the first half noted by the fact that most of our fans were getting quite fidgety.
    Having said that I must disagree with fat sam: I do sympathise with you having to play so soon after your last match, but this does happen to everyone (well the top teams anyways). Nobody has picked up on the fact that even if that had happened to us, we would hardly have been affected as only 2 of our starting players played in the previous game. Despite what the media say, we are fortunate to have a decent squad depth and strength.

  • Tripp

    Sep 27, 2007 at 7:50 AM

    Comment #22

    “decent” is putting it rather mildly. It’s not the result any of us wanted (save the Gooners fans who’ve posted here), but it’s one less distraction. Good things are happening we just need to be patient and let the lads sort things out. There have been loads of changes this season and most of them positive. The injuries are a bit worrying that may be down to the players in question, not any body’s fitness regimens. All the more reason to build a deep squad.

  • Dragoner

    Sep 28, 2007 at 8:34 PM

    Comment #23

    I went to emirates and saw this live, let me just say that Arsenal would have matched ANY team in the premiership that night, its all well and good sayin “they are only young blah blah blah” but the fact of the matter is they played like a team of experienced champions, we played very well defensively and we had a few chances to score.

    Hadrian you clearly didnt go to the match because your statements are typical of someone who simply read the match statistics…believe me it doesn’t tell the whole story.

    They dominated play because we went with the plan of playing defensively and hitting them on the break, a plan that worked but we just failed to convert our chances, simple. i left the stadium fairly happy with our performance that day, and you lot should not be so down about this match.

    Things are getting better, our team get a better understanding of each other with every game


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