What’s Next For Newcastle after Arsenal Defeat?

Newcastle put in an excellent defensive display last night against a young second string Arsenal side, especially in the first half. At half time the game was well balanced and it was hard to predict who would emerge the winner on the night.

But at half time Wenger must have given the youngsters a blast at half time because they came out in the second half and raised their game to another level. And finally the dogged perseverance of Newcastle was worn down and the patient Arsenal youngsters finally got their goals in the last 7 minutes.


Habib Beye – looked out of steam at half time – but persevered well

As witnessed via the many comments on our web-site last night, this was a hard defeat to take for many of our fans. It was the best chance of winning something this season and that’s one reason for the disappointment. Another one was the indignity of being beaten by a bunch of teenagers. But that’s a disservice to these Arsenal whiz kids, as other teams will soon find out.

And that’s not being fair either to this Newcastle side who looked a tough team on the night and maybe they could have held out to get to extra time with a little bit more luck. For sure, Oba Martins missed 3 golden opportunities and we all know goals change games.

But it wasn’t to be on the night so now what?

Surprising as it may seem we were proud of the lads last night as they battled through attack after attack from this brilliant Arsenal side. The team will only be that much better after this experience. Beye looked knackered at half time but he hung in there and made some great tackles and interceptions and showed real guts and character in the second half. The same can be said of the all of Newcastle’s defense. It was good to see young Enrique get a full game and there was a lot to like about his performance last night.

Rome wasn’t built in a day and Big Sam warned that Newcastle fans will have to be patient this season and he’s so right. There will be misfortunes like last night but there’ll be more good times ahead, we feel certain of that. What should we all do after last night?

Admit that Wenger is a special guy who has a great talent for spotting young players with unbelievable skill and that’s what he had on display last night. A similarly youthful team demolished Liverpool 6-3 last season in the quarter finals of the Carling Cup – at Liverpool – and more teams will be taken apart by Arsene’s youngsters in the future.

The lads can learn from this and will – so what’s our next goal?

Recuperate, learn from last night – but be ready to have all guns blazing in the early afternoon on Saturday against Manchester City – at the City of Manchester stadium. It will be amazing how a win on Saturday will help us forget this game that much more quickly.

Keep the faith.

Comments welcome.

79 comments so far

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 26, 2007 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #1

    Was just reading this article on the official site where it states Owen tore an abductor and while he’s out (3 weeks at least) that they’ll check up to see if he needs a hernia op as well. Wow, what luck he’s had with injuries – well on the flip side, at least Martins will get more games and hopefully regain that predatory instinct we all know and admire and appreciate from Oba – who’s bailed us out on many an occasion since his move from Inter.

  • Steve K

    Sep 26, 2007 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #2

    Didn’t see the game so it is hard to comment. But there’s no shame in losing to Arsenal at the Emirates, with or without the kids. It was a very hard tie, and by all accounts we didn’t roll over and in that context the performance is encouraging.

    If you look at clubs that have started building from the back, such as Benitez at Liverpool, it tends to take time. If we can get things right at the back, which will take time, then it’s a great platform for us to launch a more sustained period of success.

    Besides all that, Joey Barton will be playing soon, and that will make a huge, huge difference to this Newcastle side.

  • Mat

    Sep 26, 2007 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #3

    Right… my team for this weekend:

    Viduka, Viduka, Viduka, Viduka
    Viduka, Viduka, Viduka,
    Viduka, Viduka, Viduka

    …so long as Fifa changes the pitch dimensions 10 yards x 8 yards between now and Saturday.

    Seriously, how many of you have underestimated what he brings to the team?

  • Hadji

    Sep 26, 2007 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #4

    Ok,life goes on.
    We still have the Fa cup,if it was ment for us to be kicked out from the Carling cup then i’m glad that happened in the early stage.
    Anyway we were aware that we cant win 2 cups,so now we’ll have more time for preparations to fight for the 4th place.

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 26, 2007 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #5

    Would have loved to see Sam take a youngster or two (besides our 1st team regulars 🙂 ) with to the Emirates where they had plenty of yardsticks taking the pitch. Well done to the goners for having so much young (albeit mostly non english) potential coming up in their ranks. With Ashley, Mort and Sam I’m confident we’ll be in their position in years to come. Can only look forward to a tough game against Man city, but one we should come away from with a point or more. Looking forward to that game!

  • Oz Gunner

    Sep 26, 2007 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #6

    It’s not often our team beats a side who’s reporters show such unbias in their opinion of the result. Congrat’s to you Sir.

    Fat Sam is not exactly liked by us Gooners but i do feel you are on the right track with him at the helm and he just may bring your famous club back from the depths that several ‘not so good’ appointments have taken you to.

    Good luck for the rest of your season a top six to eight finish pushing on to a challenge for the top 4 next season is realistic and Sam just might deliver!


  • Harry Barracuda

    Sep 26, 2007 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #7

    “the indignity of being beaten by a bunch of teenagers”. You do the Arenal kids a disservice. They’ve been coached by Wenger of years and even he says they can slot into the first team seamlessly.

    As for the bloke looking forward to Barton coming back, you must be about the only person that wants to see that talentless thug back playing football.

    I give him three games before he’s sent off or Allardyce has a fight with him.
    The bloke’s a twat.

  • Ed Harrison

    Sep 26, 2007 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #8

    Harry – point accepted – that was the truth – but my point was these bunch of teenagers hammered Liverpool last year – 5-1 up after an hour at Liverpool – and ran out 6-3 winners. 2-0 at the Emirates in comparison was very good. I’ve slightly changed the text in article so it’s better explained.

  • gary

    Sep 26, 2007 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #9

    i know this will shock you, but most of Arsenals youngsters are English, i have seen them,they are awesome playing in exactly the same fast paced attacking style as the senior team,they will dominate the premiership in the next few years.

  • Jerry

    Sep 26, 2007 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #10

    We should hang our heads in shame by being beaten by a bunch of Arsenl kids and reserve players! If we have no shame about this we wont have shame about anything under the face of the sun!

  • Rich

    Sep 26, 2007 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #11

    Anyone see what Emre said last night about not wanting to leave Newcastle and said that it was rubbish?Its on the official Newcastle website, sick of these paper rumours

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 26, 2007 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #12

    Why are there so many goners on this site all of sudden? Don’t you have sites of your own?

    Oh sorry, they must probably all be in french without any english translations – too bad.

  • ToonKing

    Sep 26, 2007 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #13

    This is the first result of the season that really brought me down, i always held my own in the pub against the glory hunters of Man Who, Shamblespool and Gonners but yesterday i just sipped my beer in a dark corner and took the abuse……..

    Hope we beat City or at least get a draw or i’ll start heavy drinking again ..;)

  • yemozone

    Sep 26, 2007 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #14

    Get this right,we cannot build a squad with the team we have now.The average age we have now is around 30 years old.
    Pls can someone tell me how a squad can be built?

  • norman

    Sep 26, 2007 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #15

    Sorry Craig but when you talk about the great Arsenal you will get a few of us popping in to glow in your admiration of our wonderfully talented players, beating seasoned pros. Bit of a sad thing though that a break is called after 45 minutes so they can have their nappies changed. But that’s life. Can’t expect them to do all this damage to more experienced players without a bottle break in between.

    BTW. I loved the various comments from Fat Sam over the last two days. He went from” I know exactly how to beat Wenger” to bitching about fixture congestion. Hilarious stuff from the walrus!

  • Rich

    Sep 26, 2007 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #16

    Yemozone – our average is isnt around 30, sure we have brought in a few older players like Viduka, Cacapa, Beye, Geremi but all have lots of experience and will give us a good 3 seasons. Dont forget we have lots of young players also – Enrique, Barton, Martins, N Zogbia, Milner, Taylor Players such as Smith, Rozenthal, Emre only 27 as well. I do agree we need more exciting young players but the experienced guys are still required!

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 26, 2007 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #17

    Sorry norman, but I never posted any lies to the effect of goons being great and never will. I tried popping in to your site but couldn’t find an englishman in sight. Maybe you should go back there and front for the french.

  • norman

    Sep 26, 2007 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #18

    You obviously know very little about this current Arsenal side Craig. There were actually 3 englishman in the side of which 2 played and if I am not mistaken 3 frenchman. But so what, football is football. We cant all be Newcastle who field 11 englishman every game they play…Yeah right Hypocrite !

  • Kixzon

    Sep 26, 2007 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #19

    Hey Craig, this blog appeared in Newsnow Arsenal. It’s just curiosity that prompted Gooners here. Probably we’re only trying to find some fair comments about the game due to the usual biasness found in arsenal’s blog. Needless to say, such biasness exist in all other clubs’ blog as well. So it’s quite refreshing to read rival’s blog to get a real perspective of the game.

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 26, 2007 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #20

    You obviously know very little. I don’t give a sh!t about you or your arse-nil . Go drink your champagne and celebrate your foreign legion and come back to me when you feeding the england team again. tosser.

  • simen

    Sep 26, 2007 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #21

    its simpley not good enoug to loose against arsenals second string!

  • Kixzon

    Sep 26, 2007 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #22

    Nasty, nasty….craig little….does all Newcastle fans behave the way you do?

  • Hadji

    Sep 26, 2007 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #23

    Norman….Get the f*&(k out of here,go eat snails or something.

  • Toon Chicken

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #24

    get your own back against the stoopid goons here…


  • norman

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #25

    ooooh touchy boys. It wasnt like you were thrashed by a bunch of inexperienced kids or something…oh wait, nevermind, you were!

    Hadji…mmmmm, your intelligence is mind blowing!

  • Rich

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #26

    Dont even bother speaking to Norman, hes enjoying it when people are giving him abuse, hel soon get bored n go away. was thinking for the Man City game i would go for this team what every1 think?

    Beye Taylor Rozenthal Enrique

    Milner Geremi Smith N’ Zogbia

    Martins Viduka

    Subs: Harper, Emre, Butt, Faye, Ameobi.

    My thinkling is depending on the scoreline bring on Emre after mayb 60 mins again get some game time for Smith probs. I think its a bit too soon to start with Emre as hel lack match fitness.His passing and creativity will hopefully help us break down city.Beye will tire towards the end, bring on Faye and move Taylor to the right back pos.

  • Arthur Prince

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #27

    I was disappointed in the result but the defence did a good job and remember the team is at the start of its climb to the top .

    We have to be patient and look to the immediate future to develop and bring in players to keep raising the standards when we will be able to go to any side at the top and win . It will take time and we must support BSA and Chis Mort in the ultimate aim of bringing success to NUFC . It will come but the new era is only a few weeks old so we cant go from disarray to perfect in a matter of a few weeks . None of us expect premiership title this year or next do we ( I think Arsenal will poss win the title this year any way ).
    The blogs from the Gooners shold be dismissed as just winding us up so ignore them . Our time will come .

    Oba really does need to take these opportunities when presented . Michael Owen does which is why BSA rates him over Oba . so Oba needs to learn and quickly . Time to deliver preferably at Man C !!!

  • Neutral

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #28

    Don’t sugar coat it, BSA is an awful manager. The sooner this is realised the better. He doesn’t buy good players, just work horses. Alan Smith is terrible technically. Likewise Faye etc. Barton is more box to box than creative, don’t expect him to be some white horse to come in and save the day. The reason why he doesn’t buy creative players is that he plays long ball football. Bolton played awful football under him.

    I feel sorry for you guys, crap manager, crap football, crap result. You have no chance against City, they have a good manager who plays nice football. To thing you could’ve had him!

  • Toon Chicken

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #29

    Norman – I’ve been racking my brain as to how Arsene Wenger manages to attract some of the worlds best young talent to Arsenal year after year. And then I remembered – with a packet of sweets and cheeky smile…
    😉 Now do one you muppet

  • Arthur Prince

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #30


    I agree with what you have said re Norman .

    Team is good too.
    poss Emre instead of Smith . We do need Joey Barton back and a creative midfielder of real class in January .

    Mind you as Matt says ,Viduka in all positions is an interesting one too !!!!

    Defence looks good . Enrique settling in well by the looks of it . Real Baptism of fire at Arsenal so he now knows what is what in the Premiership .
    I agree 442 also

  • Chris Wright

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #31

    Wow, I was going to be positive and post a nice comment about a well-written article, but the posters in this comment section have changed my tune. Especially the absolute ignorance and stupidity shown by Craig Allen. Do you seriously never get fans of other teams visiting blogs after matches? There’s no need to be hostile towards fans from another team posting positives about both your team and the blog content.
    But no, you have to use the same old crap all the time, “GO AND EAT SOME CHEESE, FRENCHY LOLOLOL”. Grow up, seriously. It’s not funny, it’s not been for a decade now.

  • ToonPipes

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #32

    Norman you goon .. you shud be embarassed by the p iss poor support you lot served up last night .. honestly, cudnt hear you lot all night in the toon end .. when you scored, the best you lot cud come up with was ‘we are top of the league’ .. given it was a cup game, would have thought you could have managed something more suitable .. what a load of chumps. Lovely stadium f cuking s hite fans.

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #33

    hey Chris Wright – show me a positive comment out of any arse’s arse and show me where I shot it down.

    taxi for chris, don’t forget your snails “LOLLOLLOL”


  • Mat

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #34

    Now come on Chris, as far as put downs go, ‘go and drink your champagne’ is… …not really a very good one.

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #35

    @Kixzon, I don’t know frenchy, why don’t u ask the goons posting here on your behalf if they all as nasty as you.

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #36

    You arse’s better click on the ads first – I’m sure Ed’s enjoying the traffic 😉

  • aaron d

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:55 PM

    Comment #37

    I don’t think we play badly at all, the game could of go either way, but you could tell we played on sunday, players look very tired in the second half. Maritns should of score two a header from a great Enrique cross and an open goal after a great run. Ameobi didn”t show up he was well out of his league, send him to the championship in january. Taylor had a great game, good block and a tackles. Enrique look good too. Given should also start next game, defence look more organised with him in goal.

  • norman

    Sep 26, 2007 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #38

    Toon pipes is a good name for a poster. You must be one of those NC suppoerters who spend more time booing their own players than cheering them. Yeah, filling a 60000 seater stadium for a nothing match against a never-used-to-be is really bad support, thanks for pointing that out.

    You guys seem to use taxi’s alot, must be the too distraught to drive thingy that your so used to.

    As for Toonchicken – I actually laughed at that comment. But remember its Joo-Joo beans he uses. French coated and wrapped in plastic. Those that love it play for Arsenal and those that dont play for Spurs.

  • Neutral

    Sep 26, 2007 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #39

    Hadji “Newcastle can change 10 managers if they want to and they’ll still be a big club.But if Wenger leaves Arsenhole……..then what?”

    Big club? What was it, 13th or something last year?

    Arsenal – more fans, better team, bigger, nicer stadium, actual trophies too.

  • Neutral

    Sep 26, 2007 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #40

    Craig Allen – “when you feeding the england team again”

    Who was the last Newcastle player who played for the England team who actually went through the youth team?


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