Sam Has Work To Do At Newcastle

Here are some points we have noticed that Man City today ruthlessly exposed. But at least we have a good idea now what they are, so we can work on them.

One thing that was noticeable was the skill Sven Eriksson has quickly brought into the Man City side – so these skilfull players are available .

It’s OK getting tough no-nonsense players that can solidify our defense but even that was exposed today. We’d like to play more creative football and we need more creative players in the squad.


Big Sam – yes it was that bad at Man City today

Here are some points that we have to fix – hopefully before the transfer window opens on January 1st.

  • We are too slow in defense and in midfield – Geremi and Butt together in midfield just don’t hack it. Sam will have to let some skill come into the side. What type of player would be good – hey – an Albert Luque type. But Sam has to give Emre and Barton their chance when they are fit – why don’t we give Emre a start in central midfield for our next game.
  • We are still gullible in defense – the only goal we couldn’t do much about was Elano’s rocket which flew from 35 yards into the very top right hand corner of Given’s net. It was oone of the best hit shots we’ve ever seen – it was that good – and yes Elano is Brazilian.
    Given had no chance and he did very well to get near it, which he did. The first goal caught us wide open and lack of speed cost us for the second goal.
  • Mike Ashley has said he will make money available in January. Good – we expect we need to bring in at least 4 players who will be immediate first-teamers if not starters. As we suggested yesterday, we will also need to bring in some good youngsters, say 17 to 21 year olds. With Sam’s legendary preparation, let’s hope we can get a good start by bringing in two or three top players on January 1st. Do the work now.
  • We are not good enough in midfield to play 4-3-3 and we give up midfield immediately. Sam needs to understand that if he wants to play that go out and by a top central midfielder like Fabregas – otherwise let’s play 4-4-2 – please.

By the way our next game is at home to Everton next Sunday 7th Oct.

Let’s know what you think – comments, ideas and opinions are all very welcome. The basic question – what do we need to do now?

27 comments so far

  • ToonKing

    Sep 29, 2007 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #1

    Those facts that u point out have been visible since our first game at Bolton, the painful part is that only we seem to notice. WTF Sam u at the games or not mate?? if we can see them u should too man, do something about it, fast.

    We were decent at times today, but overall we sucked, again.
    I’m not even gonna think about the Everton game, knowing Sam he will bring Barton on in the 87′ and Emrein the 82′ and again play Smith , Geremi, Butt.
    If that is the case, i will take the first plane to the Toon and kick Sam’s fat ass.

  • latex

    Sep 29, 2007 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #2

    I have to agree with the comment about Butt & Geremi in midfield, it’s definitely not our best config. There has to be a midfielder in front of the defense protecting the defense but one or both of them is not doing their job cause they don’t even get forward enough in the attack.
    Also though, I have to say we’re better of using Enrique as the left-back so we can use N’zogbia fully running on the left wing and Milner on the right. Our wing play hasn’t been very good with Milner on the left these few weeks and
    Smith on the right.

  • gordon

    Sep 29, 2007 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #3

    Totally agree we have only spent around 9M net,but for me playing smith,geremi and butt in a centre 3 is complete idiocey,i still think we have a good defence but we keep getting overrun in midfield which makes the problem worse.

  • Daniel

    Sep 29, 2007 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #4

    I agree, I feel the formation lost us the game. We have a very good squad with not alot going on. We barely made any chances, even the goal was just a piece of individual class. At 4-3-3 it was far too narrow and their wide men had so much joy, Petrov had space to run into everytime he got the ball. I’m not dissapointed with our player as such, I though Smith and Viduka were excellent, whereas Butt was poor. I always feel Charlie is a better attacker than defender and we need him in midfield. We should of started with a 4-4-2 with Enrique at left back and Charlie on the left. I think Barton is going to make a huge difference when he returns because we are crying out for a player of his type. You can’t forget though how could Man City were, very impressive, quick one touch passing whereas we held the ball for too long.

  • Indian tøon

    Sep 29, 2007 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #5

    Watched the game on telly today, the 4 3 3 formation really sucked.. Why is zog.Playin left back. A complete failure of tactics . But we hav to keep todays result behind and look forward for the everton clash.. Will support the tøon for life. Howay the lads..

  • Nick C

    Sep 29, 2007 at 5:37 PM

    Comment #6

    Good points Ed. One thing I would like to add is why do we carry on playing the same when we have gone a goal up?

    Surely if we went a bit deeper and played off the break we would not be so ruthlessly exposed. Just no tactical nous whatsoever.

    I expected more Mr Allardyce.

  • Neil A H

    Sep 29, 2007 at 5:39 PM

    Comment #7

    We should have brought Emre on much sooner. We needed flair in the midfield as Geremi and Butt just aren’t capable at providing that. Smith should be up front or brought on as a substitute. Charlie should start on the left and Enrique should be given a run out at left back. Injuries didn’t help us today so hopefully when we get Barton back we’ll be more solid in midfield. This is depressing as Man City looks miles ahead of us.

  • Arthur Prince

    Sep 29, 2007 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #8

    Real Disappointment !! We clearly have a long way to go . The fact that ManC started at about the same level and have brought in some flair players shows how far we have got to go to compete at the top .
    . I agree NZogbia mustnot play LB The sooner Joey Barton gets playing the better . However it will be interesting to see where we are at Xmas So all is not lost yet but I think there will have to be some Heart Searching by BSA as to playing 442 rather than 433 especially with the players we have currently . The Bolton way is 2 or 3 years outof date and thengs change quickly in the EPL so we have to pedal harder to get infront of the game not just to keep up as we are trying to do at present .

    How many points did we have at the same time last Year under Glen Roeder ??

  • Adam

    Sep 29, 2007 at 5:52 PM

    Comment #9

    I do have faith in BS longer term, but we have to break out of the cautious mode we seem to be stuck in. We need the defense to improve – yes – though we also need a lot more DRIVE in mf. I would play Enrique every game when fit, a mf of Barton and Emre or Smith, with Zog and Milner left and right. Both Barton and Emre would have to be fiercely determined in the tackle but we’d have a lot more coming forward. Owen AND Martins up front, when everyone is fit.
    I appreciate players like Butt and Geremi, important squad players, but we need to be running at teams and have a helluva lot more about us in mf!

  • Steve c

    Sep 29, 2007 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #10

    Play 4 4 2 and Sam has got to get some creativity and flair into the midfield. Smith ran alot and worked hard but did not contribute.

  • Bobby Ollox

    Sep 29, 2007 at 6:18 PM

    Comment #11

    Ameobi deserved a place in the team today — then we would have been shite everywhere.

    Rock solid defender Rosie seems to have spent his time watching the Kieran Dyer Guide to defending off the line – he somehow managed to miss that cross twice before the 2nd goal.

    Given didnt look as if he could be bothered at all – petulant git.

    Taylor ? – £30 grand ? – my arse !!

    I am sick of Geremi and his pointless half arsed free kicks.

    Smith was anonymous again – even with his blonde rinse – I honestly cant remember him doing anything today . Viduka was disappointing – he didnt make the impression we needed him to.

    Milner and Zog & Oba were OK – I suppose

    I really really hope we have some creativity sitting in the treatment room – otherwise it is going to be a pretty dire winter…….

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 29, 2007 at 6:24 PM

    Comment #12

    1. Zog needs to start in midfield. Enrique needs to start at LB.
    2. Sam needs an able tactician at his side at all times with a personality big enough to take the game plan by the scruff of the neck and replace it with another, mid game, mid half, whenever, wherever.
    3. We need a speedy defensive midfielder. Someone who is a speedy defensive midfielder and has always been a speedy defensive midfielder. Our squad’s loaded with DMs but they’re simply not fast enough.
    4. We need an attacking central midfielder. Someone who is an attacking midfielder and has always been an attacking midfielder. Someone world class – to become our play-maker designate.
    5. We need one more class winger who Milner can be understudy to and learn from and benchmark against. Someone as good or better than we know Duff can be.
    6. We need a backup for Viduka – he simply cannot last all season playing 70 odd minutes every game. Someone tall, speedy who can hold the ball up and show strength and preferably born in the 80’s (the later the better) to compliment our other short and shortish strikers.
    7. Smith needs to only play upfront when he plays. He’s not a midfielder.

    I admit Joey Barton can fulfill both 3 and 4 as one player but I’m a)not sure of his speed and b) believe we need 4 whether we have Joey or not.

    I rate Emre, highly, but I believe he needs to be understudy to this world class play maker at 4 above.

    all of the above is obviously IMO if we are to brush aside teams like Sven “Sony” Erikkson’s city and go to anfield, stamford and emirates competing for points. At the mo, we have quite a few squad players, we need the definite starters to either put their hands up or to sign on the dotted line. I have hope that we’ll get there eventually and probably would’ve been more p!ssed, if we had lost to Sony “playstation” Erikkson at St James.

  • Sinead

    Sep 29, 2007 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #13

    Given didnt look as if he could be bothered at all – petulant git….see that’s why everyone thinks he should leave, something to do with crap defence and then there’s the fans who take him for granted and are full of crap.

  • Sinead

    Sep 29, 2007 at 7:23 PM

    Comment #14

    Oh and the fact he deserves trophies and such, not just talking about winning.

  • Ashton

    Sep 29, 2007 at 8:43 PM

    Comment #15

    Sinead are you given’s agent ? if not shut the f(*&k up
    iam sick of you just telling us given is the better goolkeper bla bla bla … just shut up you silly irish t(*&at !

  • Jerry

    Sep 29, 2007 at 8:49 PM

    Comment #16

    Excellent analysis Craig Allen

  • Bose

    Sep 29, 2007 at 8:59 PM

    Comment #17

    The central midfield didn’t look good because we had alan smith running around like a headless chicken. He didn’t do much in terms of creativity. With geremi and butt your never going to get two midfielders who will join the forward in the box. it was smiths job to do that. Also viduka got completely out muscled by dunne…he hardly came short and with no supporting striker to play around him he was very isolated. Between geremi and butt they should’ve decided who was going to pick up elano when he came into the whole and who was going to screen the defense. Thats where we lost the game cuz city at times had five midfielders against our three……..we needed barton or emre to play some neat short passes around the city midfield and not just in front of it….!!!bloody disappointing!

  • dirk

    Sep 29, 2007 at 9:00 PM

    Comment #18

    craig allen, are you on drugs, or are you just ten years old?

  • dan

    Sep 29, 2007 at 9:00 PM

    Comment #19

    I think Nicky Butt is of no use to us at all now. He is extremely slow and this is a huge weakness when he is out on the pitch. a good back-up maybe, but not a starter. Geremi should have the DM role imo.

    I really don’t mind Zog at left back – In attack i think he has more room to run into from a deep position. I think he can be a great player for us there. However – When we are lacking so much creativity in midfield, and have a good left back (Enrique) available, why on earth isn’t he playing at Left midfield!?

    Other than that, i’m not entirley convinced with Viduka, and we need to get Joey Barton in there asap for some drive and spark in midfield!!

  • lee

    Sep 30, 2007 at 1:28 AM

    Comment #20

    Bearing in mind the money and time available in the summer, we still seem to have a seriously un-balanced team. Central defender playing at right back when Geremi is more than competant playing there, a quality left winger playing at left back while we have a potentially world class left back warming the bench, right sided players on the left, strikers in midfield, no pace (in midfield and defence in particular), even less flair and a system that the current players either don’t understand or are incapable of playing. Its creativity, balance and pace that win games … We don’t seem to have any. I hope that the man has his enormous cheque book open and ready to use come January, and Big Sam has already identified the problem positions and the players to fill them.

  • Edd Case

    Sep 30, 2007 at 6:08 AM

    Comment #21

    Been saying it for weeks and weeks, the 433 does not work unless you have the players – and by that I mean players of real class, we dont.

    442 please.

    Right, off to play FM2008 – It can’t be that hard to make Newcatle a winning team, right….?

  • Craig Allen

    Sep 30, 2007 at 8:02 AM

    Comment #22

    Excellent rebuttal, Dirk. So much intelligence and so many good points to counter mine. Keep it up son.

  • lee

    Sep 30, 2007 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #23

    Why wasn’t Enrique playing from the start of the game? N’Zogbia should have played left wing with Milner on right wing. 2 defensive midfielders when we should have been looking to score. No creativity, no enough pressure up front either from the middle or wide. City had little to defend against and just took soaked up the pressure… with the crowds behind them they eventually scored, 3 times! Next game against Everton, this is the team line-up:
    GK: Given
    CD: Rozenhal & Taylor
    FB: Beye & Enrique
    CM: Barton/Smith & Emre
    LW: N’Zogbia
    RW: Milner
    F: Viduka & Martins

  • apan

    Sep 30, 2007 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #24

    come january we will need to buy a playmaker, someone creative and good at passing……..someone like fabregas or deco ( we have emre but im not too sure havent play a lot yet)

    van der vaart & riquelme anyone?

  • Tom_Toon

    Sep 30, 2007 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #25

    Van der vaart cant really pass for shit, ye hes a brilliant player, but not a playmaker. Riquelme is a lazy ‘hot and cold’ overrated tard. Bernd Schneider would be the signing id like to see. Give experience to Milner.

  • Steve K

    Oct 1, 2007 at 8:35 AM

    Comment #26

    Sorry Ed are you going to leave the comment about one of the female contributors being a “silly irish twat” from “Ashton”.

    There’s always been a great Irish connection with Newcastle United, so there’s no need for the xenophobic comments. Also your sexist, misogynistic comment about a “twat” is simply disgusting.

  • magpie_boy

    Oct 1, 2007 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #27

    Guyz all of us are shouting and screaming the same point about the midfield but the question is…..Would sam Allardyce make the changes which we think should be done as soon as possible????by that i mean Zog in the midfield and emre…if he wont then i think we wont do very well this season even if we started much better than last season.I Wish Big Sam Can Read These Comments.if all the supporters of newcastle can notice these problems then why cant big sam see it……??????


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