Newcastle Almost Had Elano – Bad News Good News


Good and bad news today about the revelation that Sam Allardyce was tracking Elano around the time that Kieron Dyer’s transfer was going through (or not going through) to West Ham United the first time.

Sam mentioned this over the weekend following the excitement of Elano’s performance against Newcastle United on Saturday. It looks like that two week delay in that transfer, initiated by Newcastle, seems to have cost us Elano.

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Elano Blumer (Elano) – would have looked great in the famous black and white stripes
It turns out Sam had Elano as one of his many targets during the summer and was pursuing his move to Newcastle at that time. But as Sam pointed out in August, speed is of the essence in transfer deals and initially the new board was too slow in processing transfers. It was around that time Sam said Newcastle were not moving quickly enough in the transfer market and had already lost out on some targets. The processing of transfers got fixed quickly by Chris Mort, to his credit, and we were able to get several of our targets into the club during August including Beye and Faye during the very last hour! But we had already lost out on Elano by then.

That’s both bad news and good news for Newcastle United fans.

Of course the bad news, as we saw on Saturday, is that Elano has looked a class act at City and the goal he scored, well – saying it was great probably doesn’t do it justice. And we know Geordie fans love players with skill and verve shown by Brazilian Elano – as well as other Manchester City players last weekend.

But there’s good news in this too, and that’s the fact that Sam is at least tracking these skillful players. What we got in during the summer were 9 solid players, who are big men that can help shore up our defense. Our defensive record has been Newcastle’s weakness for at least 10 years, yet not one manger has gone out of his way to fix it, strange indeed.

What looks to be needed in the team now is more skill, speed and creativity. We missed out on Elano but we’re sure there are other players, just as remote as Elano seemed, who will be available. We hope Sam is already tracking some of these players and it’s obvious to most that’s what we need to make the squad stronger. Elano cost around 8M in moving to City from Shakhtar Donetsk, and given his performance on Saturday and the fact he is a Brazilian international makes that deal look a great one for Eriksson and Manchester City. He’s the type of player who draws fans to games, exactly what Newcastle need. Alan Shearer did that at Newcastle and fans would go to see Newcastle’s away games to get a look at Shearer amongst others.

We hope Sam, Chris Mort and Mike Ashley are willing to get these types of players into the club during January to speed up our transition to one of the top 6 sides in England.

We think they are willing to do this.

Comments welcome.



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24 comments so far

  • Steve K

    Oct 2, 2007 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #1

    You have to remember that Manchester City had Richard Dunne and Micah Richards at the club – two of the best defenders in the league. That allowed them to focus on flair in their purchasing plans.

    However Newcastle are definitely suffering for not investing in more creative players, and our midfield looks poor at the moment. The only big question mark I have is whether the 6 odd million spent on Alan Smith could have been invested more wisely, in a more inventive player. It has cost us points this season, there is no doubt of that.

    City were missing Bianchi and Bojinov on Saturday, and not only was their performance so much better than ours they also showed they are a far better side than us. This is disappointing considering the short space of time it took Eriksson to do this.

    Personally I’ve wanted Allardyce at this club for years and even though I’m a bit sour at the football we play I’m happy to see small incremental progress for the foreseeable future. It’s just a kick in the back-side to see City leapfrog us with what looks like a better manager, purchasing plan and a little extra wonga.

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  • Magpie Neil

    Oct 2, 2007 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #2

    Hes had one good game. Take your toungue out of his arse.

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  • StevieA

    Oct 2, 2007 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #3

    He has looked very good so far. Again another Brazillian playing at a small club in Eastern Europe before moving on for a big fee.

    Plenty of them out there! It’s just work permits that are usually the problem. You will find a lot of Brazillians in Russia and other similar countries.

    It’s a shame we missed out on Elano though he would have been fantastic in our midfield! This must have been the £10 Million pound bid we were talking about at the start of the season?

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  • Magpie Neil

    Oct 2, 2007 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #4

    oops meant tongue

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  • Ed Harrison

    Oct 2, 2007 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #5

    Magpie Neil – i do a lot more research these days – 2 points
    1) Your comment left me with a bad taste in my mouth 😀
    2) Elano is ranked 6th most effective player via the most recent Actim ratings – so it’s not just one good game – take a look
    http://www.pa-sport.com/en/actim/actim-index-premier.html

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  • Callum

    Oct 2, 2007 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #6

    I told you Elano was their danger man 🙁

    One thing that is bad about him tho is he is a luxury player, meaning he never tracks back, he has Ireland and that young English guy (forgot his name ;P) aswell as Hamann doing that for him, but then again at Newcastle he would have had Butt, Geremi and Smith doing a similar thing.

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  • paul p

    Oct 2, 2007 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #7

    its not just elano, they got petrov, who killed us down the left side. beye did not have one of his best games, even he will say that. even ireland for the 1st goal, nzogbia showed his defence weakness, but when the ball came accross, everyone but rozenhal was ball watching, taylor had a nightmare. what has happend to him this season. we need to find a suitable partner for rozenhal at the back. enrique left back, barton and emre/butt in the middle, milner right, nzogbia left and viduka/smith and martins up front. we have to go back to 4-4-2 and creativity in midfield, least we will get that with emre and barton.

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  • Rich

    Oct 2, 2007 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #8

    Magpie Neil – Elano is a class act, he is a top top player, with fantastic skill and vision. He will be a massive hit in the premiership as will Petrov, wish we had these two, what a team we could have had then .

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  • Toon Chicken

    Oct 2, 2007 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #9

    I think I must have been one of the very few geordies who didn’t actually balk at prospect of Swen (as Bobby liked to call him) becoming our manager.
    I would however take BSA as our manager and Ashley and Mort in charge over any manager in the world partnered with FFS.
    This was obviously another thoroughly disappointing performance, but we were beaten by a team who must now have serious top 4/5 ambition, so there’s not too much shame in the result. It is yet another reality check for us fans.
    If you look at the table, then I don’t think we have any right to think we are any better than any of the teams in the top 11 – including Portsmouth. This will probably the most competitive Premiership ever, and we are going have to work extremely hard to finish in the top 6.
    We have definitely made progress since the Souness and Roeder era’s – we just have to be patient. We can strengthen again January, and I’m sure we will, and then hopefully BSA fitness and strengthening regime will have kicked in so we will reap the benefits of a fditter, stronger squad with fewer injuries and really make a charge for the European places in the new year.

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  • Steve K

    Oct 2, 2007 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #10

    Just a thought, but for all Sam’s “slowly-slowly” small improvements in increments approach, squeezing every last bit out of what you have with sports science – has he missed the point that Eriksson realised?

    That point being that football is so complex a sport that the best you can do is get those players who have the ability you cannot coach – and stick them out there. It’s worked for Man City ahead of our approach so far this season….

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  • Magpie Neil

    Oct 2, 2007 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #11

    There are a lot of unknown entities at Man City due to their massive over haul in players. Lets see how Elano looks in 2 – 3 months time when opposing managers have had a chance to study his game and assess his weaknesses.

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  • col

    Oct 2, 2007 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #12

    hindsight is a wonderful thing.

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  • Jerry

    Oct 2, 2007 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #13

    Who says you cant buy BOTH creative and defensive minded players at the same time? It doesnt have to be either or.

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  • ToonKing

    Oct 2, 2007 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #14

    Where did my post disappear?? grrrrrrr >o

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  • shearyadi

    Oct 2, 2007 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #15

    I agree with Magpie Neil. If we think that Elano’s goal against us is wonderful, well….we have seen many goals like that from Alan Shearer, David Ginola, Laurent Robert and even Charles N’Zogbia can scored like that.

    They are not very special, it is just that our team who cannot perform well against them. In fact, we have not much wins when we playing on their ground so far in the Premiership years, so…things still can changed. We will see who will finished higher on the table next year, Newcastle or Manc. City 🙂

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  • ToonKing

    Oct 2, 2007 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #16

    I’m sorry but, but i wouldn’t want Elano in the team and i agree with Magpie Neil, stop kissing he’s arse, if he’s not at SJP than he’s a c*(&nt 🙂 . Although he had a good start he’s not as good as it seems, i watched him many times at Shakhtar and his not that good, can’t wait for some english dude to do a proper tackle on him 😉 .

    And what’s so great about City??

    They played 1 more game then us so i’ll take away their last result (agaisnt us )

    City : Home 3- 0- 0 Away 1- 1- 2
    Toon: 2-1 -0 1-1-2

    Is that really that much different ???

    I bet my house on the fact that we’ll finish higher then City ;).

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  • Brian

    Oct 2, 2007 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #17

    It is not only Elano. Ronaldinho and Rooney could also have been Newcastle players. Butt and Alan Smith are better players. Hangeland could have been good.

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  • ende

    Oct 2, 2007 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #18

    When healthy, we have quite a few attacking options. Sam has laid the foundation for a very solid defense as well (both in the backfield and in terms of defensive midfielders). The backfield really just needs some more time to gel (though it could certainly benefit from perhaps one more very solid world class CD).

    I think the main problem is that there is a disconnect between the defense and the attack. This is where the creative midfielders come in. Zog has been absolutely wonderful, but I’m not exactly sure he qualifies as filling that role. Who else does that leave us with? Emre? Maybe Joey will help out here, fellows like him and Smith seem more to me as “power forwards” than the speedy, skillful types we really need out there to connect the rearguard with the attack. A couple players like Elano are exactly what we need. I’m still in favor of pursuing Deco in January, or another suitable middy.

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  • leo

    Oct 2, 2007 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #19

    yeah deco and mouhnito* in january

    brian what have you been taking? butt et al, better than rooney elano and ronaldinho hahaha

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  • Ed Harrison

    Oct 2, 2007 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #20

    ToonKing – let’s all hope you are right 😀

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  • Azvael

    Oct 2, 2007 at 8:48 PM

    Comment #21

    i would take Diego of Bremen before Deco!!!! Young and a lot better!!!He is the best CM in the Bundesliga and maybe the World. It would be great to see him in black and white!!!!

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  • apan

    Oct 2, 2007 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #22

    there’s still not gelling yet as a team, give em time esp our defence

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  • ollie

    Oct 2, 2007 at 11:23 PM

    Comment #23

    i definately think we need to some more attacking minded players! i went to see arsenal newcastle at the emirates in the carling cup and we were poor! BSA made poor decisions in leaving martins isolated up top in the second half! we never really looked like scoring with anythin other than the long ball over the top for martins to use his pace to run onto! Smith is lost in the midfield! although he can do a job in the centre! wen BSA puts him on the right side he is lost! He is a forward! i thu=ink we def need to invest in a more creative midfield player! any ideas who we could possibly get? i know barton comin back will help a bit on that front but with geremi butt and smith in the midfield we looked especially poor against arsenals under 19 side!

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  • Brian

    Oct 3, 2007 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #24

    Leo – I was only joking, because i found it annoying when players are linked to a club (newspapers) like Rooney and Ronaldinho and we know they will not come anyway. Butt and Smith have not been good this year, but they were good players at their time in Manchester.

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