Newcastle Still Have Terrible Injury Record

Newcastle United have been top of the PhysioRoom.Com Injury League Table for the last 3 weeks or so and there’s only been a couple of weeks this season when we haven’t been top. PhysioRoom.Com tracks injuries at major English clubs as one of its many activities.

This is what it was like the last two seasons at Newcastle and one can argue that it cost both Souness and Roeder their jobs, it certainly didn’t help. We had hopes that this would improve greatly under Big Sam but so far it hasn’t.


Sam Allardyce – concerned about Newcastle’s injury record which has not improved

If this poor injury record continues, maybe there’s something in the training or the pitches that causes us to have so many hamstring and groin injuries. We certainly haven’t got down to the real causes yet, as far as we can see. You can see the current list of injuries by clicking on STATS along the top of our site, and it’s one of the tables we update regularly.

We now have 8 players on the list Michael Owen, Claudio Cacapa, Joey Barton, Shola Ameobi, Celestine Babayaro, Stephen Carr, Damien Duff and Peter Ramage. Three of those players are due to come off the list early next week – Barton (who played 45 minutes for the Reserves last night), Carr and Babayaro. Newcastle United boss Sam Allardyce admits that the injury list is getting out of control and Newcastle must find a way to better manage their injuries.

This is what Sam Allardyce told the Newcastle Journal today:

“We’ve got to make sure we manage them (injuries) better,” “Previous managers have had similar problems and that’s when results start to suffer. The object is to get them fit and keep them fit longer. At the moment that’s not happening and that was a big factor in Saturday’s result.”

“We were short on experience of playing with each other.” “We got caught out, certainly defensively, by the amount of changes and the number of players who had not got that much Premiership experience. I thought it wouldn’t be like that until we gave away that second, stupid goal.”

“It gave Manchester City more of the upper hand than they’d had in any other part of the game. They could play on the break because they’d got back from 1-0 down. We had to over-commit so they could exploit more space.”

“We’ve changed all aspects of how the players train but (the injury situation) can’t really be changed in the space of a few months, it goes into years.”
“If they’re not quite as conditioned as they should be in the first place they need to catch up and sometimes because games are coming up you have to sacrifice that to get them ready. It’s a long process but we’ll continue that.”

“It’s been a problem but only because we’re only just staring what we want to carry on and on and on over the next few years.” “It was a problem at Bolton when I first started but we developed the best injury record in the league. That’s crucial to any manager or any club.”

The sooner Sam’s methods start to show a reduction in our injury burden, the better. We’d noticed our injury record has not improved, at least not so far this season. Some of the known injury prone players are on the list including Damien Duff, Celestine Babayaro, Stephen Carr and Michael Owen. Duff and Babayaro have yet to play this season but it’s getting close the the time both Babayaro and Carr are due to resume training, which is next Monday. We’ll see if Celestine’s date gets pushed back in the next 4 days as has happened consistently this season. It must be very frustrating for managers when some of their players are always on the injury table.

Why do we have these injuries? What can we do about them? How come we have a lot more than at other clubs? Comments on this are very welcome because until we get a handle on this we will always have one strike against us. We’ve posted a topic today on our Newcastle United Forum for long term discussion of this topic – Why Is Newcastle’s Injury Record So Terrible.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

15 comments so far

  • Rob

    Oct 3, 2007 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #1

    Need to stop buying players with histories of injuries, Owen, Babyaro, Carr, Duff or sell players on that are always injured, Ameobi, Emre, Babyaro, Carr

  • Toon Chicken

    Oct 3, 2007 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #2

    To be fair to Same he didn’t buy any of those players you mentioned, Rob. Nor do I think he will buy players with poor injury records in the future.
    I also think that, injured or not, we should be looking to flog Carr, Babayaro and Ameobi in January, with Duff and Emre getting one last season to prove their worth.
    The trouble is with such a small squad already being stretched to the limit, I can’t see BSA getting rid of anyone unless he has a suitable replacement lined up, and as we all know no one likes to sell their best players in January unless there’s stupid money on the table.

  • Toon Chicken

    Oct 3, 2007 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #3

    I meant Sam, not Same – doh!

  • iain

    Oct 3, 2007 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #4

    i was just thinking earlier what has really changed at nufc ???

    same old injuries, excuses from manager about int breaks/players not gelling despite sven doing exactly that in less time, talk of us nearly signing the latest star name whether it be rooney/ronaldhino/elano etc etc.

    i have an injury theory though that is neve mentioned. the slope in the pitch at st james park.

    for 90 mins a season oposition teams are running 45 mins up he hill and 45 mins down the hill – for the rest of the season they play on flat pitches as i dont thiink there is another epl team with a sloping pitch like ours.

    for us however we play at least 14 pl games running up and down the sloped st james pitch whilst the players are being conditioned i assume on flat training pitches. the slope is severe enough to ensure plenty of players go skiding into the gallowgate ad boards.

    the pitch where i live is sloped more so than st james park and it is the most knackering thing ever to play 90mins of football on it compared to a flat pitch.

  • SingKing

    Oct 3, 2007 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #5

    So lets take a hard look at this list. Of that lot only two would be starts Claudio Cacapa & Joey Barton. Michael Owen could maybe take a break from his England career to be on the bench. Shola Ameobi, Celestine Babayaro, Stephen Carr, Damien Duff and Peter Ramage wouldn’t even make the bench so how are they a factor? Maybe the real reason we have an injury crisis is that we have bought so many “injury prone” Marcellinos? Paper thin squad? The BBC lists Toon squad at 27. Villains who are above us in the league have 21 so thats not the answer either. The real issues here are team selection, tactics, and coaching. Which of course the manager prefers not to talk about.

  • Lamesley Mag

    Oct 3, 2007 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #6

    We have too many players who are continuously injured; i.e. Babayaro, Carr, Emre, Ameobi, Owen, Duff; so until we sell those players who offer very little return when fit, we’ll continue to head the Injury League Table and waste money on salaries!

    BSA knows who we need to sell, so expect January to be another busy period in the transfer market.

  • Toon Chicken

    Oct 3, 2007 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #7

    I doubt whether we’ll sell any of those players in January for one of two reasons:

    either – we’d struggle to give them away.

    or – it’ll be impossible to find a better player at the right price to replace them.

  • Ed Harrison

    Oct 3, 2007 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #8

    iain – but they’ve relaid the pitch so many times over the last few seasons – surely it is flat as a pancake now with no slope – if it isn’t it should be fixed.

  • Ed Harrison

    Oct 3, 2007 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #9

    Rob – fully agree – let’s start selling some in January.

  • Toon Chicken

    Oct 3, 2007 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #10

    Ed – I did the tour of St. James’ last season and although the pitch was immaculate, the slope was exactly the same as it has been for years. According to Bobby (our guide for the day and not the footballing knight) it could have easily been flattened out, but everyone at the club likes it that way. And if you notice, whenever we win the toss, we always choose to kick towards the Gallowgate end in the second half – so in theory we should tire less than the opposition towards the end of the match because they will be running uphill.

  • iain

    Oct 3, 2007 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #11

    tc – yeah over one game it might make a difference in our favour but nufc do it for 14 games a season so effectivly for 630 mins a season our team has to run uphill opposed to the oposition on the day doing 45 mins a season.

    also im sure running downhill puts more strain on the joints.

  • leo

    Oct 3, 2007 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #12

    how stupid our club is if we havent figured that out… im sure there is reasons why, they like it haha hmmm. the training pitch is the reason, i ust to train there with my school because we didnt have any land around us in gosforth, the pitch was very hard and always dry so easy to get injuries. hopefully we will move the training pitch to blagdon like i told you all it will happen, because it is near ponteland which is where many of the players live.

    see it happen

  • apan

    Oct 3, 2007 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #13

    sell babayaro 60 k per week and thats crazy!

  • hadrian

    Oct 3, 2007 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #14

    training pitch is fine , used to sneak in there thru a hole in the fence and play footy all summer before the toon took it over . its just like any other bit of grass in the northeast .

    you have to take into account we havent seen duff or babayaro yet , and sam didnt take over a squad full of lads in peak condition .
    he’s extremely cautious , the likes of cacapa’s knocks ect .
    and bartons metetarsal was just a freak injury that can happen to anyone (wearing posh boots!!) .

    notice sams comments as of late have sounded like him flapping a bit tho, starting to get a lil hot in the kitchen 🙂

  • azza jones

    Oct 3, 2007 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #15

    New Manager same old excuses…..Everytime we lose big sam has all the excuses under sun, not enough time to prepare, players were tired, injuries. Derby, Man C Arsenal, forget the time to prepare, Team was shit due to his tactics.
    He keeps talking about Duff coming back, Im dreading his return it will probably push N’zogbia out of the team. F*ck Owen & Duff, Secret training sessions you gotta be kidding me. Sell em both, West Ham anyone!


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