Gary Speed – Problems With Lee at Bolton

When Sam Allardyce signed on as manager of Newcastle United in May, there was a lot of speculation about who would accompany him to Tyneside to be part of his coaching staff.

One person prominently mentioned was Gary Speed, our former midfield star, who had worked with Big Sam at Bolton for 3 years and thinks he’s the best manager he’s ever played for.

Speed didn’t end up at Newcastle but instead signed on at Bolton as a first team coach with Sammy Lee. But Gary is now having some problems at Bolton on the coaching side – read on.


Gary Speed – great professional and excellent up and coming coach

It turns out that Speed was left out of the first team squad last Saturday for their 1-0 home defeat by Chelsea. Gary has had meetings with Sammy Lee this week and it appears they disagree on the tactics of the team.

Bolton are currently second bottom of the league just above Derby County on goal difference, and have just 5 points from their first 9 games. Bolton chairman, Phil Gartside, is expected to be involved in meetings this week to work out the conflict between the two men, along with Speed’s agent, Hayden Evans.

We’ll keep an eye on the situation, because at some time in the future don’t be surprised if Gary ends up as a coach at Newcastle. He is well thought of at Newcastle and played around 213 times for Newcastle scoring 29 goals and has now played about 115 games for Bolton over the last 3 seasons scoring 14 goals. He is very well thought of also as a coach, and the common view on him is that he’s got everything to be a very successful coach in the future.

He is also very good friends with Alan Shearer should Alan ever take over the Newcastle manager job, after Big Sam has dragged us back into the top bunch of clubs in England. We would expect that will be at least 5 years for a successful scenario with Big Sam, which is what we fully expect. Gary had previously agreed an extension to his contract a few weeks back that would have promoted him to assistant manager at Bolton, but it’s unclear whether that offer is still available.

If Bolton don’t improve their fortunes rather quickly, don’t be at all surprised if Lee is replaced by Gartside, in an attempt to keep Bolton in the Premiership. Gary Speed could then find himself as player-manager at Bolton. Lee has taken a good team from Big Sam, changed tactics, and sent the team down to the depths of the Premiership. Needing more time is a request (or excuse) that only has limited viability, as the season progresses and results don’t improve.  Gary could well get the call to save Bolton in the not too distant future.

Comments welcome.

26 comments so far

  • Lamesley Mag

    Oct 10, 2007 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #1

    Bolton are a team in trouble and prime candidates to be relegated this season.

    All credit to BSA for not only keeping Bolton in the PL but getting them into Europe this season.

  • Graham

    Oct 10, 2007 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #2

    Will people please stop mentioning Alan Shearer as the man to follow on from Allardyce? Why get us back to the top end of the table only to put Shearer in a manager? Thats what shepherd would have done (eleven geodies etc etc etc). Shearer has gone – let it go please

  • Craig Allen

    Oct 10, 2007 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #3

    Should’ve used the big man little man, Lee! lol

  • Nufc1000

    Oct 10, 2007 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #4

    Graham. I agree with you completely. Shearer is a Legend and always will be but why is there such a fascination with talking about him being our manager? I personaly dont want to see him in charge. I want to remember him for who he was, a top class player who gave everything for the club. Its a totally different kettle of fish being a premiership manager, its not like he would just walk in and everthing would be sorted. Its just not that simple. Lets give Big Sam all the support he needs and hope his experience will bring some success. Its not fair to be talking about who will replace him. If we become a major force under Sam then why would we ever replace him? This club needs to look at the likes of Man U and Arsenal. Huge success based on getting the right manager and keeping them in charge for long periods of time. We need consistency. We certainly haven’t had any of that over the last 15 years.

  • iain

    Oct 10, 2007 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #5

    speed in terry mac out. it seems all terry mac does is hug the manager when we score. what job deos he do ffs ??? does anyone know ???

    i cant think of anything better for our backroom. we would even gain cover in cm if we had injuries. who would you rather have come in matty p or gary speed. its a no brainer.

  • gordon

    Oct 10, 2007 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #6

    terry mac was one of the best passers of a football in the world and one of the best at scoring from midfield.

  • Hammy

    Oct 10, 2007 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #7

    iain, used to work with Jordan Tait, he said that all Terry Mac did was go around and tell jokes…..err does that mean tha Chubby Brown could fill a similar role??

  • hadrian

    Oct 10, 2007 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #8

    shearer commands respect , something a manager needs .
    big al will make a good manager , stop writing the guy off before he’s even put his hat on the table .
    owen wouldnt be calling the shots at the toon if big al was on the backroom staff .
    you think man u fans dont want keane or hughes one day ? ofc they do .
    shearers worked under some great managers and got all his badges at a young age , he knows what he’s doing .

  • dan

    Oct 10, 2007 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #9

    Sick of all this crap about shearer. You’re talking crap hadrian.
    Sam is our manager and he’s doing a good job. If that continue’s… Why can’t we keep him for the next 20 years!???? i hope that is the case.

    forget Shearer.

  • Punk Skunk

    Oct 10, 2007 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #10

    Agree with Gordon, Terry Mac was a great player!..& to be fair, we don’t ‘really’ know what any coach, etc. brings to the party…But, he has been here thru a million managers, so he must be doing something right!?!..I’m sure Sam woulda give him the flick if he wasn’t up to scratch!..I’m well up for Speed coming in tho’, i’m sure he’ll go on to make a top coach, where ever he ends up!..
    …Also, agree with the Shearer ‘thing’…Let’s just think about now & get behind Sam & the Lads…Who knows what’ll happen years down the line from here?..
    …Also…’Howay the Lads’!..

  • joe

    Oct 10, 2007 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #11

    I wanna remember shearer as a legend. THE greatest player ever to grace the pitch of st james park. Can you imagine what would happen if he managed us and did a roeder…

  • hadrian

    Oct 10, 2007 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #12

    dan your nuts if you think sam’s eyes arent firmly on the england job after mclaren , even if he doesnt get it he wont be here for the next 20 years .
    where the hell do you think managers come from ?
    big sam was a player himself once , he was allowed todo his thing and end up where he is today , shearer must be allowed todo the same .
    nobodys gonna hand him the toon as a first job (unless he comes thru under a manager)and we all know that , but he must be allowed to cut his teeth without everyone putting him down before he’s started .

    same was said about rijkard at barca , van basten …. i could stay all day and list top quality players that end up as top quality managers , its not supprising that their credentials were slated at the time aswell .

  • Hammy

    Oct 10, 2007 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #13

    Ruud Gullit.

  • andyc290

    Oct 10, 2007 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #14

    Lets all get behind the people who are at the club now.

    Yes Shearer was extremely dedicated to Newcastle but was well paid for the job he did. Now he wants to do his own thing with the BBC so I dont think he warrants a mention on this page, save him for discussions of past seasons/players.

    Terry Mac drinks whisky at half time but is still a very experienced coach, dont knock him for cuddling the manager when we score, I always cuddle people when we score even if i dont know them

  • leo

    Oct 10, 2007 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #15

    haha ruud gullit could have been sucessful just had the wrong ingredients, and you all know what happens when the wrong ingredients are added to the cake!!! graham souness haha

  • Graham

    Oct 10, 2007 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #16

    Hadrian – Shearer commands respect? Maybe from Gary Linekar and Alan Hansen but has there ever been a worse dressing room spirit during his final years at NUFC?

    Its alright shouting the odds on the pitch but as club captain I don’t think he was much cop at bonding the lads together during difficult spells with an “as long as i’m alright” attitude

    Footballer – yes
    Person – no – too much influence in the club (Fat Freddy to blame for this one
    Manager – who knows. But lets forget about him for a few years and let Allardyce do his job

  • steve

    Oct 10, 2007 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #17

    @punkskunk – “we don’t ‘really’ know what any coach, etc. brings to the party………………..
    ……………..I’m well up for Speed coming in tho’, i’m sure he’ll go on to make a top coach”

    LOL – I hope that was deliberate

  • tommy

    Oct 10, 2007 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #18

    Totally agree with nufc1000..

    I don’t think he will make a great manager personally (Shearer that is) Judging by his old fashioned analysis on MOTD, I honestly don’t think he really knows what he’s talking about..

    I wouldn’t dream of taking anything away from him as a player though.. If it wasn’t for him and Shay, I think we’d be ligning up against darlo in the league..

  • Punk Skunk

    Oct 10, 2007 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #19

    Hey Steve!..Na, i didn’t realize what i’d wrote ’til you pointed it out marra-but, on reflection-i stand by those words…Lol!..

  • Fergus

    Oct 10, 2007 at 10:45 PM

    Comment #20

    I think Big Al should replace Sam now!!! Ifany of you were a Derby County the other week, or at the Man City game, as I was you would have seen a side totally devoid of ideas and Sam on the side lines scratching his head as what to do next!!!! They need someone who the plaers would respect, someone who has played well at the highest level! I say Sod “big” Sam, move over and let “bigger Al” take over now!

  • Joe

    Oct 11, 2007 at 1:43 AM

    Comment #21

    Speed as coach. Keep Terry Mac though. He’s a god. Could you imagine if we got Shearer as a coach to teach Martins how to score simple goals. He’d be the best striker ever. I can see Speed being coach for Newcastle sooner rather than later tbh. He loved it up here didn’t he.

  • Chris F

    Oct 11, 2007 at 2:07 AM

    Comment #22

    i’ve no idea what the current situation is at bolton regarding their coaches, but if gary speed were available, he would undoubtedly be an asset to nufc both on and off the field.

    he is one of the few men in the game today who deserves the moniker of ” a true pro”

  • Don S.

    Oct 11, 2007 at 6:24 AM

    Comment #23

    I always thought Speed was going to end up here at the Toon. There’s no better assistant for Big Sam than The Speed. When Emre scored against Everton I immediately said, “That reminds me of what Speed used to do.”

    So let’s get him.

  • paul p

    Oct 11, 2007 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #24

    lets get speedo back in at newcastle. to be fair, he wud still do a job in our midfield like, as well as a coach/assistant. alan shearer was a hero, always will be a geordie legend as a player. lets get behind sam and what he is bringing to the club, its the best i have seen since robson went, so let us get behind it.

  • Chris F

    Oct 11, 2007 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #25

    Don S, sorry, but Emre’s goal reminded you of what speed could do?

    it was nothing like a typical speed goal! he may have got the odd goal from open play like that, but gary speed’s greatest skill was getting into the box and getting on the end of crosses.

  • SingKing

    Oct 11, 2007 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #26

    Speed back to SJP, yes. Big Sam for next 20 years, unlikely, unless someone invents a youth serum. Next manager, Lee Clark, you heard it here first.


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