Taylor Disappointed at Sam’s Comments

It’s being reported in the Sunday Mirror this morning that Sam Allardyce has held emergency clear the air talks with his young England Under-21 captain and center-back Steven Taylor.

Sam talked last week about the abysmal defending against Manchester City and seemed to single out Steven for having a really poor game. But those words may have been misinterpreted in the Taylor camp as suggesting Steven doesn’t have a future at Newcastle.

Sam has moved quickly to dispel that thinking.


Steven Taylor – didn’t even make the bench in last two games

The Newcastle manager has admitted he used the word “crap” to label Steven’s performance that day but has insisted it was meant to be a general description of Newcastle’s inept defending, and had not been directed specifically young Taylor.

Allardyce insisted that he believes Taylor has a great future at St. James’ Park, despite his rejection of a five-year contract recently which was labeled as inadequate and disappointing by his father and agent.

Allardyce said yesterday:

“The remark was misinterpreted and singled out for one individual player. I don’t deny I used the word, but it was about the defending in general, not one individual.”

“I said it wasn’t just Steven Taylor, it was the whole of the back four.”

“Steven will be disappointed that he hasn’t been in the team the last couple of games. I expect everyone who isn’t in the team to be disappointed, but he is working hard in training and waiting for his chance.”

“He is a great lad, a nice young age and he has a massive future. That future should be at Newcastle United.”

Sam’s clarification should give young Taylor some comfort who yesterday for the second game running found himself out of the Newcastle 16 for the game and he watched the game from the stands.

But Taylor will be hoping that contract negotiations can be resumed and finalized after his father and agent, Alf, rejected the first offer, thought to be around £1M/year.

A friend of the Newcastle youngster then told the Sunday Mirror:

“The only club Steven wants to play for is Newcastle. He is black and white through and through.”

“He was disappointed to read the headlines and what seemed to be a public condemnation of his display.”

“Coming on top of the manager questioning whether Steven was ready to step up to the full England side it has left him it has left him wondering whether he has a long-term future at Newcastle.”

If Sam doesn’t see Taylor in his long term plans there are plenty of clubs only too willing to take the England Under-21 captain off our hands. Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United and Portsmouth are four clubs that would be very interested in the youngster.

With yesterday’s abysmal performance in the defense Steven should take some heart because some heads should roll because of yesterday’s performance if Sam is to be seen as being consistent.

Comments very welcome.

38 comments so far

  • Aussie Geordie

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #1

    Dismal performance but Sam’s tactics were not right from the start. We had no width at all and Joey was largely anonymous. On the basis of the defensive display I think well like to see Roz in the back four this weekend and Taylor at least on the bench and definatly getting some game time. After rating Capaca so highly I cant see him losing his spot but Beye should be in the stands for a week instead of Taylor. Wont do him any harm.

  • bowsie

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #2

    Wonder if Sam is trying to bring the lad down to earth. Has to be said that Sam’s propensity to have his own voice heard caused a few problems here. Why would you use language like that to the media about your own players?

    In saying that, believe that Taylor will never be a top class defender.

  • indian toon

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #3

    there’s no way he can even find the bench until any of the defender’s are injured.. the only place guaranteed on the bench is of steve harper…

  • Doc

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #4

    re taylor, it seems to me that he was getting abit to big 4 his boots, i recall one occassion when he was laughing after making a big mistake which could have cost us a goal !!

    not better than capaca, feye or roz, at best the bench

    dont believe your own press steve, but also dont forget the african lads will be off in january, might be a chance to get back in the side,

  • Brisbane Mag

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #5

    BSA should not have criticized young Taylor to the media. Yes, he played badly against Man City, but so did others!

    We need to tie Taylor to Newcastle for the next 5 years; also play him whenever possible to obtain further PL experience.

  • indian toon

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #6

    not even then . dont see him getting games much.. chances look bleak. looks like sam has his favourites.. geremi was hopeless..

  • Ed Harrison

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #7

    I think you’re right about Sam having his favorites – next week’s team selection will be very interesting – but we think Sam will take a hammering for the initial team he put out yesterday.

  • Ed Harrison

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #8

    Brisbane Mag – agree

  • bb

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #9

    I also think Taylor has been too casual and now that we are seeing some quality defenders coming into the club we are realising how much he still has to learn. I dont think there would be a mad rush to buy him, he’d be better off learning his trade and getting on with things and learnig off the others as Charlie Zog has done.

    I don’t want to hear about people being black and white through and through as that is a kop out when people are’nt good enough. Thats the reason shola is still at the club.

    As for our defence I think there is competition unless you are Shay Given, how many clean sheets has he kept this season, it seems he is another one we are not allowed to question yet it is clear he does not command his box or defence and since his major injury last year seems less sure of himself, time for a Harper run I think, the squad (Taylor etc) need to see that the rule about mistakes and your place is in jeopardy needs to apply to all including Saint Shay.

  • indian toon

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #10

    JUST CANT AFFORD TO LOSE TO TEAMS LIKE READING. should atleast get a point away when playin against these teams.. we played like a championship side yesterday.. i had to watch the delay..

  • wsq

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #11

    i lost the mood to watch the delay! i knew if watched it i’d be screaming and cursing at the telly endlessly. winning football my arse

  • indian toon

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #12

    if the match is on delay , i never see the result, it takes the fun outta the match..

  • A geordiedoonsooth

    Oct 28, 2007 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #13

    I am not sure of BSA, the defence looks as bad as it did last year & we have a whole new back 4. The tactics against Reading were dreadful dropping Milner & NZogbia who have been 2 of our best players was a huge mistake. After the comments about the Man City game he must bring back Taylor & Rozenhal. Watching the highlights last night all we did was play the long ball effectively negating the assets of Owen & Martins. I can’t see us finishing in the top 10 never mind the top 4. The big top teams will tear us apart.

  • A geordiedoonsooth

    Oct 28, 2007 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #14

    Mark my words if Taylor comes up for transfer he will join one of the top 4 clubs they would all love to have the future England Captain in their team. BSA drops the players who were at the club before he joined not the ones he has bought.

  • indian toon

    Oct 28, 2007 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #15

    that’s obvious and a clear case of favouritism.. but there’s no guarantee of taylor being the future england captain.. not good enough..

  • bb

    Oct 28, 2007 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #16

    not one of the big 4 would take a chance on Taylor, he will get better but he wont get any quicker and his positional awareness is way off players such as woody, rio,king, campbell at a similar age.
    He may be the Tim henman of our squad nearly but not quite good enough, plenty will take a chance on him, west ham, villa and the ilk but not the top 4

    What about Shay does anyone think the top 4 would come in for him ? considering how desperate they have all been for keepers at one point to my knowledge the club have never received a bid, I think through pure love of the club we believe our players are better than they are and we don’t like to admit it. The fact is the club culture needs to change, and it is but it won’t happen overnight and that includes us.

  • Haway man

    Oct 28, 2007 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #17

    wsq shuttit

  • Haway man

    Oct 28, 2007 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #18

    wsq shut it

  • Leo

    Oct 28, 2007 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #19

    cant be bothered to even read this, not because the article but because im in a state of depression and deluded as to why we arnt winning constantly away from home against the weaker teams

  • Leo

    Oct 28, 2007 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #20

    toonking dont dispare, stick at it, this blog is the best i have found on the internet, i hate missing it even for 1 day.

    i do find it hard reading the blog after a defeat but i would never miss it in the world.

  • wsq

    Oct 28, 2007 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #21

    haha haway man ur pathetic

  • Leo

    Oct 28, 2007 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #22

    i pathetic, hmm obviously. wsq what does that stand for?

  • wsq

    Oct 28, 2007 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #23

    not u leo

  • Leo

    Oct 28, 2007 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #24

    gd gd. ur lucky then 😉

  • indian toon

    Oct 28, 2007 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #25

    toon king. sir , am not putting my team down. sorry if i ruined u r day.. actually it’s night here… hey wsq. where u from.?

  • indian toon

    Oct 28, 2007 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #26
  • indian toon

    Oct 28, 2007 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #27

    sorry for the typo.. just paste the link..

  • Bob

    Oct 28, 2007 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #28

    I completely agree with ToonKing, some of the posters on here are so ridiculously negative and depressing…not to mention unrealistic.

  • Eve

    Oct 28, 2007 at 6:43 PM

    Comment #29

    “Some of the posters on here are so ridiculously negative and depressing…not to mention unrealistic.”

    Ya tell me about it, they’re either calling for Sam’s head and (oddly 2 or 3) calling for Given’s. You should here this guy em, Johann, you swear by the sound of him you’d think Given was Newcastle’s answer to the Devil.

  • Sinead

    Oct 28, 2007 at 6:58 PM

    Comment #30

    bb..That’s not very fair is it, Given had to work his way back to the no. 1 spot.

    The no clean sheets no offense but the goals I’ve seen have gone down to horrible defending, not really his fault.

    “my knowledge the club have never received a bid”..Arsenal and Wenger have always raved about him and why put in a bid when they knew full well that he wasn’t going anywhere.

  • ChrisL

    Oct 28, 2007 at 8:41 PM

    Comment #31

    Sinead, in what way did Given have to work his way back into the team?

    “the goals I’ve seen have gone down to horrible defending, not really his fault” Dream on. It is precisely Given’s fault. Harper was doing a great job of keeping the defence in order, we actually looked a good defencive UNIT. Then I reckon Shay spat his dummy out & BSA caved. That was very harsh on Shay’s “mate” Harper.

    Don’t get me wrong, Shay has been outstanding for years for the Toon, but you’re only as good as your last game & Shay needs to be sat on the bench against Portsmouth.

  • Sinead

    Oct 28, 2007 at 9:07 PM

    Comment #32

    Chris..the defense did their job early in the season, they all wanted a spot, wanted to show Sam what they could do. Not much to do with Harper, same way it’s not really down to GIven how badly the lads in front of him preform.

    See that tells me that you don’t know what your talking about because not once did he complain, he never does. He was out of the team at the start of the season, he played in the Carling Cup that was it. Harper was well, Sam found it hard to drop him, he couldn’t drop him. Given played against Arsenal and he was outstanding. Sam then had a desicion to make. And he chose Given.

    You have absolutley no evidence what so ever to back up your claim, I hate people who do that. He never complained, he never said oh I’m leaving if I don’t get my place back. The media were all at it, trying to winde people up, they went to town on the comment that Given made passively in a pre Irish match when he said he wanted to see where he stood. That’s it. And for the record the “mate” thing last time I heard they were like brothers like so that’s just harsh what you’re saying.

    What exactly was wrong with Given’s preformance in the last game, besides not being able to speak Portuguese??

    Does that mean Owen gets to sit on the bench..think not.

  • Hammy

    Oct 28, 2007 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #33

    You are wasting your time mate…believe me.

  • Greg P

    Oct 28, 2007 at 10:38 PM

    Comment #34

    How short a memory do most people have? Taylor is quality, and while competition will allow him to learn and get rid of some of the problems he has in his game (including being too cocky sometimes) we can’t lose young talent like this just because we have brought in a couple of decent experienced centre halves (Cacapa/Faye). Man U would snap him up straight away if he was available. For gods sake Taylor is better now than Ferdinand was when he went to Man U. Realistically Taylor and Rozenhal are the two centre halves who should be the future of our defence.

  • Matt

    Oct 28, 2007 at 11:14 PM

    Comment #35

    theres a suggestion that given was a bit too far off his line for readings first goal.

  • Southernmagpie

    Oct 29, 2007 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #36

    Sinead. you say that you don’t like people who don’t back up there claims with evidence, so what evidence do you have that to prove that.

    He never complained, he never said oh I’m leaving if I don’t get my place back. The media were all at it, trying to winde people up, they went to town on the comment that Given made passively in a pre Irish match when he said he wanted to see where he stood. That’s it. And for the record the “mate” thing last time I heard they were like brothers like so that’s just harsh what you’re saying.

    Basically you know as little as the rest of us about what goes on behind closed doors. Given may be a better keeper, but harper organizes the defence better and i for one feel more confident when he plays. and if you think the keeper doesn’t make a difference to the defence then you need to take up a new sport.

  • Sinead

    Oct 29, 2007 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #37

    I knnow as little as the rest of you ya but he hasn’t said anything so I don’t know where you got it from. I meant that it’s not up to the keeper to make the defenders preform. He can tell them to do x, y and z but he can’t make them preform.

  • Eamonn

    Nov 2, 2007 at 9:24 PM

    Comment #38

    I think Shay was caught napping for the 2nd Reading goal, he could have come off his line quicker and claimed the ball. He doesn’t command the area like he should sometimes.


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