Redknapp – Give Big Sam Time at Newcastle


Any reports about Sam Allardyce leaving Newcastle because Mike Ashley is unhappy with the club’s form, are nothing short of pure fantasy. Yet they appeared in the Sunday gossip press yesterday.

Sam has lost two games in a row and we suppose these days, that signals reports of being sacked in the gossip papers, which is nonsense.

Allardyce has been in the Newcastle job since May and Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp is convinced Sam will have the club prospering, but he insisted Sam has to be given time by the club’s supporters, chairman and owner.

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Sam Allardyce – must be given time at Newcastle

Harry Redknapp came to the defense of his management buddy Sam Allardyce this morning:

“It definitely takes time to build but in my mind there’s no doubt about it that Sam will eventually have a good team here,” “We all have off-days in this job and this was just a great day for us.”

“But we beat Blackburn away and they came and knocked us out of the League Cup in midweek, so you can’t get too carried away because that is how it goes in football.”

“It does take time to turn things around. I’ve got a team that can challenge anyone. Just 18 months ago we didn’t have a team who could challenge anyone.”

“ We’ve built a good team in a very short space of time. I can look at my team and know that when they go out on to the pitch it won’t be an easy game for anyone.”

Sam Allardyce summation of the game was simple and to the point, and very truthful:

“Portsmouth’s win was down to Newcastle United gifting them the game and not down to their ability to win the game apart from a stunning goal.”

We’ll just have to hope that Saturday’s performance was just one of those days, and that the players learn from it big time. Certainly, we believe Claudio Cacapa can still make it in the Premier League but he will never forget this game. You cannot defend at 80% of your capability in the Premier League and expect to be successful. We think the players Sam brought in from Europe are still adjusting to the huge demands of the Premier League – which is easily the best league in the world.

Cacapa knows now what’s required, and we expect the Brazilian to show the character he is renowned for, and force his way back into the team at some point in the future. It will also act as a lesson that anybody can be hauled off the field when they are not performing up to scratch – even Sam’s favorite players. It’s fairly obvious, from Sam’s previous comments, that he thinks Cacapa is pure class. Sam, more than anybody else, must have been shocked at what happened in the first 11 minutes on Saturday. Who would want to be a a manager in the Premier League these days?

But the disaster on Saturday has happened and Big Sam, the Newcastle coaching staff and the supporters have to handle it. A win at Sunderland on Saturday can right the Newcastle ship very quickly, and no doubt that is what Sam will be ramming into his players all week. He will also be working again with the defense on the training field – maybe this week he will have some success with them.

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43 comments so far

  • Cockney Magpie

    Nov 5, 2007 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #1

    i really do hope he gets given enough time to succeed, my fear is that we are going to be stuck in this lose a few games and sack the manager thing forever and we are never going to settle as a team, No manager has just wallked into a team and brought instant success 6 months after taking over apart from mourinho but he had a never ending cheque book to play with and Sam quite clearly has not been giving that yet, i really hope he is here for the long term even if we dont win nothin for a while we need to settle as a club and a team and just let Sam do his job. I wanna see him still here in many years

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  • adam

    Nov 5, 2007 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #2

    im noticing a patern in the appointment of newcastle managers. bobby was good (and shouldve stayed) but was meant to look like he couldnt control some of his players, so then souness came to be a presence in the dressing room, only thing was he couldnt win any games, then got roeder to win some games but eventually lost the dressing room, then we got big sam to sort out the dressing room AND hopefully win some games.
    i would give sam time if i knew hes gona do something good but i cant see it. hes a average team manager

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  • Cockney Magpie

    Nov 5, 2007 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #3

    Do u think an average team Manager could get a team like Bolton on the brink of Champions League? i dont

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  • Jerry

    Nov 5, 2007 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #4

    Cockney Magpie didnt Benitez win the CL in his first season?

    And Arsene Wenger finished joint 2nd in his first season in the PL. the previous year they were 13th!!!!!!!!

    Stop making excuses man – if you get beat by Derby, Reading, Portsmouth and Arsenal reserves you dont deserve to rely on an excuse like you rr still building a team. That is just not on.

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  • adam

    Nov 5, 2007 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #5

    bolton had one great season where they qualified to uefa cup but were completely shite in it. they play phsical game and good technical teams will thump em. big sams record against the top 4 teams isnt hot.

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  • Cram Gav

    Nov 5, 2007 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #6

    spot on !!!!cockney mag ,the lets sack the umpteenth manager card has been introduced,I watched the dros of the late 70’s & 80’s andI must admit Big sam was not my first choice ,but give him a chance , several new players,a new owner ,what do you expect a miracle !!!.we’ve got 17 points ,admitted the result /performance on saturday was inept,and i do think milner should play right and the zog left,but has everyone forgotten about our glorious campaign under Reoder last season,lets not get carried away ,but for a good december,january we could be have been playing championship football this season……

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  • Cockney Magpie

    Nov 5, 2007 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #7

    yes but we aint liverpool and we aint arsenal, we dont have a team good enough to challenge for the prem or champs league yet and he needs time to get the team sorted and getting players in that he wants etc. We are doing better than we was last year so what is the problem? losing to Derby or not we are going in the right direction. granted the season is starting a bit slowly for us but getting rid of Sam already would just make us look like a joke!

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  • Cockney Magpie

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #8

    if Bolton had not given Sam time to produce they would probably stil be down in the Championship

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  • Cram Gav

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #9

    Jerry ,Arsenal reserves would finish top six if they were allowed to field another team and that was the best Portsmouth team i ve seen for years .admitted though Derby and Reading results should have been better.

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  • adam

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #10

    either way, i think mike ashley is a smart guy. when he bought the club big sam was there already and decided to give him a chance. he bought the club i think because i think hes decided to do sumthin with his money and will want it to be a success. if big sam doesnt show him a good end product, by i dont know when, then hes outa here. im sure mike has good people around him who know their stuff.

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  • Cram Gav

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #11

    Adam I sure he does. but none have any knowledge about football,our chairman Mr Mort has already stated that.

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  • apan

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #12

    bolton is now last in the premiership

    cant u see that? BSA does wonders for them, he needs time, just like our players, its true TIME needed lads, this is not fm2008

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  • Jerry

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #13

    Listen guys – if you want your club to be great you have got to go for a great manager! there is no two ways about it. And am sorry Sam is not. Just look at his tactics and how he desires to play football.

    What is our ambition? Personally I would like top 4 in the next 2 years and top 5 this year. Bearing in mind our size and our capaital outlay – i think we deserve that. It wasn’t long ago that we finished 4th and 3rd.

    I reiterate – the key is getting a top class manager!!! Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsene did it and look what they ve achieved. We should think big and demand the best for NUFC!!!!

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  • adam

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #14

    i can remember a certain kevin keegan and what he did in a short period of time. jerry is spot on, we need a continental manager, and i think to get one we need to offer ‘dizzying amounts’ like juande ramos got from spurs. its obvious that da spurs board know what they want and get the right people. why dont we get someone like scolari, van gaal, jol etc. big sam can be reserves coach!

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  • Joe

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #15

    Who would you suggest then Jerry? Wenger, Benitez, Fergie, Mourihno and Jol were all kinda busy at the time that NUFC needed a manager – selfish bastards – and Allardyce was next in line at the time! The other option was looking abroad and I’m not that keen on doing that – you think our foreign players are struggling to adapt, it’s a lot harder for foreign managers!

    I’ll admit, he wasn’t my choice… but the fact is that our form this season has been better than most seasons and in my eyes any improvement on last season is a step forward.

    We’re not gonna set the league alight this season and we are gonna lose games. As a club we have a history and playing crap against inferior teams. We’re one of the only teams that can beat Liverpool one week and lose to Fulham the next!

    I think this season our aim should be a good cup run and a reasonable league finish (6th-8th). And next season set our sights on bigger things.

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  • Joe

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #16

    Sorry Adam, did you just say ‘the spurs board know what they want…’? The spurs board have proven themselves to be interferring and backstabbing…didn’t we just ditch a guy just like that? Would you prefer a board like that coz I’m pretty sure the Yids dont! And Ramos is so completely unproven it’s a farce. It can go one of two ways… by some chance he could completely set the Premiership alight and make Spurs a top four team for the first time in their history OR his inadequecies and lack of knowledge on English football will become obvious and he’ll be sacked in less than a year. He hasn’t exactly been incredible so far has he!

    Your suggestions would be taking the club backwards and a time when we’re taking it forward. We have a clean slate and have had a reasonable start, someting to build on.

    What KK achieved was sensational and unique but by his own admission he was dealing with players that weren’t his…there was no massive rebuilding like what Sam has done. He simply got the best out of players that were already there.

    Our own history suggests that the fans are never happy. We had our best start for ten or so years, right? Yet still there are doubters and people calling for new managers. It’s ridiculous!

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  • Jerry

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #17

    Joe

    Mourinho was foriegn and he won the league in his first 2 seasons. Benitez is foreign and he won the CL. Wenger is foreign and how many titles has he won? If you are that good you will adjust quicker than normal – the manager simply has to be that good.

    I worry Spurs will steal a march on us because Ramos has very good credentials. Even Man City with Errikson.

    My choice would be Hitzfeld, or dare I say it Capello! Sell them the dream that is NUFC – how they could become demi-gods if they achieve great things for us. Everyone loves a challenge and i see no reason why they wont come. £4m a year salary ofcourse.

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  • adam

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #18

    wenger came from japan to arsenal and didnt have a clue on english. for the past 4 managers we’ve tried british and it doesnt seem to be working. your suggestions joe are to stay in the past. timing has got to be right aswell.

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  • ssdd

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #19

    changing manager right now is not a good idea
    mayb next season , if we are not in top7

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  • Jerry

    Nov 5, 2007 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #20

    Joe winning the UEFA 2 years on the trot is a very good track record!!! Ramos couldnt have won the league in Spain ofcourse – at least not with the resources of Barcelona and Real Madrid.

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  • Joe

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #21

    You’ve highlighted three managers against how many that fail? Like big Al said, how many foreigners and clogging up the system with inadequecies?

    Mourinho was given an endless chequebook and I’m sorry but any manager given that amount of money and quality can’t go wrong, can they? Seems that the moment the crap hit the fan (and he was given very little money to spend) he ran off without giving the club a second thought.

    Benitez took over a CL club that haven’t won the Premiership into a CL club that haven’t won the Premiership. They have been successful but most managers at Liverpool have been successful one way or another

    Wenger took over from a team that won 6 major trophies (inc two titles) in eight seasons. Nevermind the finishing 13th crap that everyone harps on about to make his credentials look awesome! He essentially took the reigns from the hugely successful Graham and continued to make the club successful. The season between Graham and Wenger was one of manager-board arguments and a season of nothingness.

    Ramos has what credentials exactly? Two UEFA Cup victories. It’s good, but do you really expect him to be the man to win Spurs great things…even the everproud Spurs faithful questioned the appointment so why is a Magpie fan jealous?

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  • Hammy

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #22

    Jerry,
    Ruud Hullit had a canny resume when he came to the toon, as did Kenny Dalgish, Dalgish took us to Wembley just to be humiliated in front of the watching nation. Everything has to be right for a manager to suceed.
    Fergie was only games from getting the sack at Manure…..he had the audacity to start a season with a bunch of kids…Beckham…Scholes….Butt…Giggs…etc.
    You see where I am coming from?
    Yeah we are all suicidal when we lose……but a couple of wins and a change in form and BSA’s picture is back on the bedroom wall….

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  • Hammy

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #23

    Sorry, that should be Dalglish….DOH

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  • Joe

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #24

    I give up after reading your suggestions. Changing manager after 11 games is ludicrous and probably the reason that top managers stay away from us…why would they want the headache of having to please you lot?

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  • Jerry

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #25

    You guys are not getting me. Am not saying get a manager just because he’s foreign. All am saying is get a manager from the top crop. I even named Capello and Hitzfeld!!

    Joe – Ranieri had shedloads of money and did he win the league? NOOOOOOOO. Mourinho won the UEFA and CL with Porto – are you telling me he had loads of money to spend at Porto? Come on man. Benitez at Valencia – beating Barca and Real – you think he had loads to spend? NOOOOOOO. Wenger – has he loads of money to spend? NOOOOOO

    And you denigrate 2 UEFA cup wins by Ramos – what has Allardyce won?

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  • Jerry

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #26

    Hammy

    Gullit and Dalglish are not my ideas of a top manager.

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  • iain

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #27

    big sam prospered at bolton in a league outside the top 4/6 devoid of quality,

    but with foriegn owners and new tv money teams like pompey arnt mugs anymore who will be outscrapped by big players and beaten by long balls and set pieces. there realistically 7 teams fighting for the top 4 this season…man utd/arsenal/lpoo/chelsea/blackburn/pompey/man city. then theres teams like everton who we struggled to beat despite there midweek game and villa who we didnt beat and got played off the park by.

    i still think a foreign manager is what we need but not a guy with a masive personality as that always draws unwanted attention to the club, someone cool and calm but with an international style of football so that when we are playing bad and not getting results at least we are being entertained and competing in games.

    long ball football if it goes wrong has no plan b does it.

    at least good passing and movement with sound tactics can be varied on many levels as long as the manager knows what they are doing.

    there are plenty of foriegn managers out there doing well outside big names like hiddink/koeman/mourinho/houlier/

    just look at what ramos acheived at sevilla, or what prandellis doing at fiorentina.

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  • Hammy

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #28

    Jerry,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Dalglish#Liverpool_2

    Check out Kenny’s stats my friend….

    impressive non?

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  • Hammy

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #29

    Who would be happy with 2 cups and a bit of Uefa cup football in the next 5 years??

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  • Cram Gav

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #30

    look guys ,the bottom line is big Sam’s got the job,lets change this and that has not worked in the past ,knee jerk reactions are not required at this moment in time.patience is the key….lets face it only Bobby has acheived success from a league point of view since KK,but we still have no silverware.Sacking sam would make us a bigger laughimg stock than we already are,when are we going to realise were not a big 4 team.the russky at chelski spent a fortune to bring them into the equation.I m with you Joe , ,we lose a few and the manager must go brigade are sounding off again..did you not read my earlier post ….relegation was real possibility last season ,and you expect us to be challenging .wake up!!!!! ,stop dreaming and face the facts….

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  • Rich

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #31

    I think most fans would be happy with that Hammy, but i personally in 5 yeasr would want to be a top4 team again and we can do it!Dare i say this i would never want rid of Sam at this moment and time, ijust dont know if he understands the ambition of the club the fans, i think Martin Jol would have been good for us, fair enough he slagged us before the Spurs game but he did a good job for them and he wants to achieve great things.

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  • Rich

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #32

    Get Keegn back though and id have the biggest smile in the North east

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  • Jerry

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #33

    Hammy – you telling me if NUFC were currently playing in the CL and won 2 UEFA cups in the last 5 years you wouldnt be happy? I’m sure 99% of toon fans will bite your hands off with tha offer!!!

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  • Cram Gav

    Nov 5, 2007 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #34

    Rich ,its would be very difficult to re capture what was the best period of football at the toon for 30 years ,I don t know if he could do it..it was magical at the time,lets not destroy our memories of KK.Howard Kendall was hugely successful at Everton,first time around ,but second time he failed and was sacked !!!! I dont want that for KK….

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  • valle

    Nov 5, 2007 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #35

    Sam might not be the best manager in the world, but apart from Ferguson and Wenger, he might be the best in EPL given time, and he’s the best we have had since the Great Bobby… Some managers take time before they start winning, especially at a club that havnt won for a long time, about 25 years ago, this scot came to an English club that hadnt won the league for more than 30 years. He didnt get the best start, in fact it took him 5 years before winning anything, but he changed things around behind the scene and slowly but surely moved towards the goal, and when he got there, he won it all… U might know him as Fergie… Wonder if he would ever get to that 5th year at our club with these ungratfull fans to “back him up”.

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  • Leo

    Nov 5, 2007 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #36

    they bum chums i think haha

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  • LondonMag

    Nov 5, 2007 at 6:40 PM

    Comment #37

    I can’t believe some of the comments I’m reading.We’ve just had a change of owner, new manager and nine new players, and the team contained half of those players on saturday. Three in the back four.
    For god’s sake, we fininshed well into the bottom half last season and in the latter stages looked as though we were being dragged into the mire.
    Before the Reading game we had made the best start to a season in TEN years. To be fair to Allardyce, we are definately
    making progress. I’ve watched Newcastle for 44 years and I’ve seen countless ‘blips’ along the way. Lost to Hereford one week, the next we won at Old Trafford. In 1971 we beat Inter Milan and in the next round were beaten by a team of part time Hungarians. This is football man, and its played by human beings not bloody robots.
    Some of the ‘supporters’ on saturday were an absolute disgrace. We have a new team, and they are booed after 12 minutes. It shouldn’t matter if they are ten down in five minutes. We are supposed to be supporters of Newcastle United, arguably the best fans in the country. What utter rubbish. A large portion of the fans who are attending home games are stiff living in the Keegan era. Wise up man, we will never see the likes of it again. Great as it was, it was a one off. Give up your tickets if all you are going to do is criticise and get on the players backs. This is a great way of shattering the confidence that the manager is trying to build,especially with the new players.
    The players Allardyce has signed are all good experienced players who will succeed in the Premiership, and in Enrique he has found a diamond. If he is allowed to progress he will become a star. The same applies to Zogs, Martins and Milner. These are the players who are our future.
    To the true suuporters of NUFC. Keep the faith, because Allardyce will deliver the goods. It won’t be tomorrow, or this season. He needs to add other quality players to the squad, and he will. The majority may be from overseas, but remember they will be wearing a black and white shirt. Lets give them real support instead of stick, because they will be as much Newcastle United as we are.
    As for Saturday, it wasn’t good, but it will get better. I recall Sir Alex saying that a five nil defeat against us, and then a six three reverse at Southampton in successive games were only “a couple of blips”. We won’t win the title like they did that season, but we will improve. Just remember what its been like the last couple of years, its better already man!
    Bring on the Mackems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Just reme

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  • CapeSam

    Nov 5, 2007 at 6:53 PM

    Comment #38

    I would really love to see Kevin Keagan as manager.With the talent we have he really can’t do a lot wrong. Sam is adisgrace to the type of football Newcastle ougth to be playing. I thought Jurgen Klinsman would have been a better option. Foreign or not, as long as the manager understand the ambition of the fans and the club, then Its all good. Top seven should be the target this season. Lets face Allerdyce is average. Bolton played like sissies. We lacked imagination going forward. When will people learn you can never win anything on defense alone, you will need to score sometime and your luck with long balls will run out(that is called probability).

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  • AltaBatalJoneN

    Nov 5, 2007 at 7:06 PM

    Comment #39

    blah blah blah….

    Some people in here pisses me off big time.

    No-one can compare todays NUFC with Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool or even Keegans NUFC.
    When Sam came in and Ashley took over, the club had £100.000.000 (ONE_HUNDRED_MILLION_GREAT_BRITTAIN_POUNDS) in debt!
    Sam have never had endless fundsupport to buy the players that he really wanted, but had to buy the players that he could afford, really!

    Does anyone remember that Keegan was manager for Fulham and Man City after NUFC?? what did he manage to win there??
    He was even appointed as England coach and got to pick the best players in the whole country, and what did they win??

    People, support your club no matter what! Why can’t it start with us supporting them first, instead of us always waiting for them to win something before we cheer them?

    HOWAY THE TOON!!!!

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  • ToonKing

    Nov 5, 2007 at 11:47 PM

    Comment #40

    LondonMag – i bow down to an “Old Firm” veteran 😉 , everything u say is the truth and i can only hope that at least a few people in here will wise up.

    CapeSam – Jürgen Klinsmann??????? the man knows nothing about management he only managed germany for 2 year and that’s it, he’s a long long way from Sam’s experience.
    Bolton played like sissies ???? every team including the top 4 feared going to Bolton, they even did a double on Arsenal if i’m correct.

    “When will people learn you can never win anything on defense alone” – yeah cause we scored 18 goals in 11 games on defence alone…….

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