Why Newcastle fans need to back Sam Allardyce


By all accounts, Sam Allardyce is having a rough time as Newcastle manager. Unreasonable expectations, injuries, the need to overhaul an ailing squad and players who are in a serious crisis of confidence. Add to that consecutive home defeats to Pompey and Liverpool (embarrassing defeats at that) and you’ve got fans calling for Sam’s head.

There are a few things we must be clear on: one, Sam Allardyce is a budget manager who over-achieved at Bolton by building a strong team over a few years. He will not turn Newcastle around overnight. Two, Sam Allardyce, like Martin Jol, is not good enough to take a club into the top four of the Premiership. To ask him to do that is unfair.

What Big Sam DOES bring to the table is stability and a chance at long-term squad building. He has the ability and the expertise to put together a strong squad for the future, and that’s exactly what Newcastle need.

In a perfect world, Newcastle could bring in the likes of Wenger and Mourinho and be winning the Premier League. The hard reality is that Newcastle are struggling and need consistent investment over a long period of time to even get into the Champions League. If you doubt that, see Tottenham’s case.

The club and the players are down – now is the time to close ranks and back your manager to the hilt – give him the confidence to go out and win games. The last thing Newcastle need is a team and manager who are so afraid to lose a game that they forget how to win it. It happened with England, and look where that got us.

What do you guys think? Can Allardyce turn things around given time and support?



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72 comments so far

  • iain

    Nov 24, 2007 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #1

    stability is built upon sensible tactics and team selections if you cant get those two basics right as a manager no amount of top coaches, or fitnuess gurus will make any difference.

    its like souness and roeder all over again except this time we are paying through the nose for it with al these backroom extras sam is after.

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  • Mike

    Nov 24, 2007 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #2

    Well hey anything is possible, but really December is gonna be the true test of how good our team is. We play a lot of games and we will also be facing the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea for the first time this season in the Prem. Basically next month will prove where our team truely belongs in the league. We basically have to get all points from Birmingham, Fullham, Derby, and Blackburn….and hope for something good against the big clubs.

    And losing to teams like Liverpool is not the problem, it’s the way we lost and tactics we went into the game with.

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  • JakataDean

    Nov 24, 2007 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #3

    Well, I sorta agree. i haven’t liked Sam’s tactics, and I’ve always felt he should have time to build his team, which really is his strength.

    Having said that, how could our defence have been at least as bad as ever before? Aren’t they being coached?

    The results, plain and simple, aren’t there. I’d stick with Sam for a while longer, but grudgingly.

    Dean

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  • UTD111

    Nov 24, 2007 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #4

    I agree its important to give a new manager time, that it takes time to build a team and get them playing the way you want, and I’m one of those who hates it when some of our so called fans start chuckin their toys out the pram….
    HOWEVER
    You have to be sure you have the right manager first before you give him the time to get it right. I’m starting to worry about Allardyce. We have the players to play attacking football but he doesnt….the word “cautious” underplays his mentality. How could he take Emre off (our best player today) and leave Yoda on? Why was Jimmy left on the bench? why do we need to play smith AND Butt? Why does he play Zog on the right and Jimmy on the left?? Whats wrong with putting out an attacking midlfield at home fer chrissakes – we were the home team? Whats the point of playing a defensive formation at home if we let in 7 goals in 2 games? Isnt the best form of defence attack?? No doubt Duff will be deployed at left back when he’s fit???I need alcohol………..

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  • Geordie Graham

    Nov 24, 2007 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #5

    GTF BSF needs to go now

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  • ourman

    Nov 24, 2007 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #6

    More cluelessness on this website. This is the same place that says Smith is a good player – yet another absolutley awful game today. Sorry – but I don’t get the impression that anyone who writes on here actually goes to the games.

    Should Sam be sacked. No – not just for the sake of it. But if I was Ashley I’d be trying to contact Capello and trying to do a deal now. Sack Sam only if we can find a world class replacement. And if Sam is to go then he has to go before the transfer window.

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  • JakataDean

    Nov 24, 2007 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #7

    Anybody know what Newcastle work on in training? Earlier we heard it was set pieces, but that wasn’t evident today. Surely, any manager with a brain would be working on the shape of our defence, playing the position, etc. Yet, this clearly isn’t happening, at least to any noticeable effect.

    What are the coaching staff doing? Any ideas?

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  • David W

    Nov 24, 2007 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #8

    I’m a Bolton fan and have to say that Sam left Bolton just as he’d been found out. The club had done well, but nosedived after Xmas last season, we were tactically inept and the manager looked lost.

    Sammy Lee came in and knew he had to turn things around quickly. he got it wrong by doing too much too soon and lost his job as a result. Things seem back on track for us now.

    If we still had Allardyce, I would have been worried about this year. Whether the scandal has taken its course on him or whether he’s just lost it I don’t know – but he’s rapidly becoming yesterday’s man.

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  • Whitey

    Nov 24, 2007 at 6:05 PM

    Comment #9

    What i think we need to look at is the formula to have a successful team. I know that Newcaslte haven’t won any proper silverware in about 40 years but looking at managers in the last 20 years there have been about 10-12 and the 2 that have had some success are Kevin Keegan and Sir Bobby Robson. Both Kevin Keegan and Sir Bobby enjoyed 5 or more years as manager. In them 5+ years they were able to get what they wanted out of the players and the team. So i say why not get behind Allardyce and support him and give him time in the hope that he can bring success to the club.

    Now for the boo boys at the Liverpool game. You are an absolute disgrace. The joke of it is just about all of you will claim you are loyal Newcastle fans but you will boo and leave with about 20 minutes to go. What is the point in that. Also what is the sense in booing the team off the feild at half time and then clapping when they come back on. Just get behind the team and they will play better.

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  • Hadji

    Nov 24, 2007 at 6:12 PM

    Comment #10

    I feel sick when i read from some of the fans here that BSA needs more time to gel the team.
    Did Sven need that much time in his first season in Man City?!

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  • Whitey

    Nov 24, 2007 at 6:20 PM

    Comment #11

    Hadji- I can understand your frustration in the team but what you have got to remember is that Sven is an experience manager at top level football. He has won trophies with Lazio and other teams. He has also been the England manager. Whereas Big Sam has only been manager of little lower league teams and Bolton. He showed at Bolton that he can produce something out of a club with nothing. So he will be able to produce something out of a team with everything put in place for greatness. So just try and Keep the Faith.

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  • jimmy

    Nov 24, 2007 at 6:23 PM

    Comment #12

    bsa is a budget manager? so is arsene wenger but he still knows how to pick a team and play players in their right positions as well as picking up the odd world class player. geremi & smith are good players yet i dont think any of the players performances merit a first team place.He seems incapable of dropping his own players which he bought. he only drops the players who wont shout about it, milner, martins, taylor, harper etc whereas owen smith geremi would cause him too much hassle for him.

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  • Richard

    Nov 24, 2007 at 6:31 PM

    Comment #13

    “The hard reality is that Newcastle are struggling and need consistent investment over a long period of time to even get into the Champions League.”

    Oh right, should someone be pointing this out to Man City because they don’t appear to be playing by those rules? They were in a much worse state than we were and now look at them!

    Sorry, I don’t subscribe to this backing fat sam nonsense . He was the wrong man for the job when he got it and still is. Freddys final revenge!

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  • Chris Bunton

    Nov 24, 2007 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #14

    Sam has always been a mediocre manager, If we accept mediocrity we will get it! Souness, Roeder and Allardice are unacceptable as far as I’m concerned, we are a bigger club that them managers, the board needs to realise this and make the changes. With our fan base we should be a top 5 side every season, no excuses. The least we should expect it a team that try to play the game the right way and entertain the fans. I think it is obvious that we will never get this with Sam because it’s NOT his philosophy, on the other hand he doesnt even have the credentials to win a trophy the George Graham way so we are in a no win situation. Fans who say he should be given more time are simply being hudwinked by Sam himself who keeps saying that, If we continue to listen we risk relegation! Look at Sven and Man City, he had a bigger job to do than Sam but he shows what can be achieved with a top club manager. Top clubs do not put up with mediocrity, thats why they are top clubs, look at Chelsea sacking Morinhio. They may have more money than us but historically we are a bigger club with bigger resources, its time we started acting like one! With the fan base we have we should demand more than we have been getting. We have the players but they are not used to playing Sams way, they are used to playing the game how it should be played. The sooner we get rid of Sam the better, but we need to get a manager of proven pedigree. Think about it, the only manager we have had in the last 100 years who came to Newcastle with a proven management pedigree was Bobby Robson, shame he was past his pension age!

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  • MickC

    Nov 24, 2007 at 6:47 PM

    Comment #15

    To Ourman

    I was at the game today i didnt boo but i was very very angry at the way the toon played. There was no width on either side. No PASSION from anyone except Butt and Given and Beye.

    Emre needs to realise that we play in BLACK and WHITE stripes. Geremi was absolutely dreadful. Why was he playing at right back when Carr was on the bench??. Why was Milner not playing from the start. Viduka still looks unfit.

    I think BSA needs to accept that we toon fans will accept defeat as long as the team have given there all and that the players are played in there proper position. We didnt have any shape what so ever even from kick off. It just makes me cringe that the game was on SKY and that all the neutral fans have seen how Crap we are at the moment.

    I cant see Mike Ahley being happy after todays result. If he did sack BSA who would come??. On the other hand can we really put up with much more of todays rubbish.

    I know iv’e rambled on a bit but it will take me a long time to get over this defeat. Sam said on one interview today that the players were “fired up for this game” if that was fired up god help us if we ever take our foot off the gas!!!!!!.

    mickC

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  • ziad

    Nov 24, 2007 at 6:51 PM

    Comment #16

    I think the team was a big DISGRACE !!!! totally understand the fans frustration ! SAM ‘s team selection is just awful .And what about GEREMI. I think he was by far our worst player today and still played 90 min.
    and why we can’t see a team with wingers get zog AND james on the field!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sam has to get it right in december or sacked before january!

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  • hadrian

    Nov 24, 2007 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #17

    can tell whoever writes this tosh isnt a geordie . unreasonable to expact some progress and half decent glimpses of football?
    reasons we dont have to back sam .

    1) he’s the last of freddy shepards horrible legacy at the club.
    2) his style of football will never be enjoyed at SJP.
    3) if he stays it means he needs cash , so if he does eventually get the sack ,it leaves whoever is following him with his mess and a lack of financial backing.
    4) he has one of the worst CV’s bar roeder to ever manage us in the prem

    sam needed to show he could adapt to our players today , instead it was the old square pegs in round hole’s all over again . what is this guy not wanting to play with any width?

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  • hadrian

    Nov 24, 2007 at 7:01 PM

    Comment #18

    ps , if sams not the manager to take us into the top 4 , what the hell are you asking us to back him for? give someone time who isnt going to deliver us to where we want to eventually end up? whats the point in that ?
    im all for giving a manager time , lets get one WE want in for a change rather than always being told to back freddys judgement . only thing the fat controller knew about football was how to alienate the fans save his own skin and line his own pockets , and were to back his appointments now were rid of him?

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  • Mike

    Nov 24, 2007 at 7:08 PM

    Comment #19

    To be honest seeing Big Sams tactical preferences makes me really worrisome that he might do something stupid at the January Transfer Period. I know he brought in some quality players but I’m worried he’s gonna rub some of our attacking minded players the wrong way and possibly create a major exodus out of SJP in January.

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  • Davy

    Nov 24, 2007 at 7:23 PM

    Comment #20

    I said after the Portsmouth game that our tactics were similar to the “over the top” tactics in World War I – we’ve pumped up the long ball so many times that the last thing the opposition will be expecting is for us to pump forward a long ball again so that’s what we’ll do! Safe to say we were shot down with ease. At the same time the tactics deployed by Allardyce are such that he seems to be playing the players to the system rather than to their own strengths. He is obstinately refusing to change and is very reminiscent of Jack Charlton’s views as well as his long ball tactics. I can’t see why he plays Smith on the right and leaves Milner out. He again replaces N’Zogbia with Milner and puts the best crosser of a ball from the right out on the left isolated with no option on the other side thereby allowig to opposition to double up on this so obvious tactic and rendering his brief appearances ineffectual. He took off the most creative player (Emre) off when we were two down today and replaced him with Barton who is still not match fit. Geremi is quite simply not up to the task but was put in a position to cover right back as well as try and link with a too narrow Smith and neither player seemed to know where they were supposed to be. Everyone around me in the ground today seemed to understand that our defence was too deep and the midfield too narrow which made Liverpool look like they’d been given the Freedom of the City to roam wherever they liked without even trying. One person sadly could not see any of this and we were soundly trounced. Our final card of playing Carr at left back was just the final tactical straw for me and it turned into a big joke. Is Allardyce Sunderland’s revenge for McMenemy? I hope not – but it’s looking that way. The fact is that I’ve been going to St. James’ Park since 1975 and have seen some real rubbish (and brilliance) over the years and hate the constant barracking that seems to have been present for the last ten years but find myself passionately opposed to the style and tactics of Allardyce. I would love him to do well and hate writing stuff like this but….We do seem to have a bunch of really good players at the moment but the manager doesn’t seem to know what to do with them. What’s he being paid for then? Big Sam for England I’m afraid.

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  • Choc

    Nov 24, 2007 at 7:25 PM

    Comment #21

    Would you trust Sam in the January transfer window?

    I, unlike most of you here, was at the match today and it was an embarrassment – it could (and prbably should) have been 8-0 (in fact benitez should be as furious with Torres finishing as we are with Sam).

    To stick with this man is suicide, we have an excellent boardroom now, Sam was someone leses choice (and not, by any stretch of the imagination the fans choice – FFS he has red and white on his scarf against the mackems).

    We are starting games handing the initiative to whoever we play and whether that is a god team like we played today, or a very por team like Reading or the mackems – we start like a team looking for a point out of a game and that is all.

    King Kev and Sir Bobby mus tbe absolutelyfurious becaus ethey would never, ever have given ground to the opposition like we are doing now.

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  • Choc

    Nov 24, 2007 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #22

    Spot on Davey

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  • SHOUTY BEAR

    Nov 24, 2007 at 8:03 PM

    Comment #23

    WE NEED A NEW CAMPAIGN TO LIFT THE GYPSIES CURSE FROM ST JAMES THAT WAS PUT THERE IN THE 50’s OR WHENEVER

    IF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE, IT NEEDS DOING AGAIN COS IT OBVIOUSLY DIDN’T WORK PROPER FIRST TIME AROUND.

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  • Obafan

    Nov 24, 2007 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #24

    For me it has to be the end of SA as a NUFC manager. Normally I’m not someone who calls for the head of a manager, but in this case I think there are reasons enough to sack him. I’m from Belgium and in my country +/- 95% of the people ask for the head of Vandereycken (our national coach, but not me, even if the performances weren’t always that good). But SA has had enough time for me (time not to build a complete new taem, but to now where the players need to play, what their best positions are, but week after week he keeps making the same mistakes) So why sack him?

    1. His tactics do not help us winning points (like he did in Bolton were he had good resutlts).

    2. He doesn’t know how to keep the players happy, so he puts them in other positions just to let them play.

    3. He made his worst mistake in making Geremi our new captain (no passion, no good touches, no leader on the field, he has nothing what a good captain needs to have).

    4. He leaves the task of coaching his team to his staff (especially during the first half, when he sits next to Mr. Mort chewing his gum like a real idiot). He needs to be on the touch line to coach his players (if he could get some good comments during the half time to direct his team, but it has already prooved that his coaching during half time does not help that much).

    5. As a coach he needs to handle every player equally, but IMO he doesn’t do that. He always points the same players if things go wrong (I was not surprised when he took Emre off; he is so predictable. And he does not favour Emre that is my opinion; the same on Martins, if Owen and Viduka are fit or even half fit, Martins is out of the team and hardly gets chance to proove him wrong +/-10 minutes against the Mackems, how ridiculous).

    6. He would solve the problem of the injuries (okay that might not be easy), but let’s be honnest that there is not an improovement.

    7. He seems not to be able to motivate the players, they looked like puppets today (except Given and Beye).

    The board can easily sack him (but I don’t think it will happen this week), because they did not appoint him. MA should be able to attract a good manager who is used to the pressure of coaching a top team (although we aren’t a top team ATM).

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  • Galowgatecorner

    Nov 24, 2007 at 8:17 PM

    Comment #25

    Please don’t give this inept clown any more money to waste. Smith, Viduka, Geremi, Capaca et are simply not good enough.

    Ashley must sack Fat Sam and bring in a top foreign coach- Capello would do nicely.

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  • adam

    Nov 24, 2007 at 8:53 PM

    Comment #26

    finally people are starting to realise what iv been saying ever since we got sam. hes out of his league. we should give the right manager the time to get it right. god we shouldve lost by 7 against liverpool.

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  • Galowgatecorner

    Nov 24, 2007 at 9:13 PM

    Comment #27

    The only words I want to hear from Chris Mort next week are:

    “Sam, here is your P45!”

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  • steve

    Nov 24, 2007 at 9:24 PM

    Comment #28

    I have e read the comments regarding BSA – and I also have watched the decline,not only, in perfomances but also in expectation around SJP.

    I’m starting to think that it doesnt matter who we get in because the gap outside the top 4 is too wide , especially for us to bridge.

    Successful teams do not change their managers even if things do not go according to plan ,eg. Wenger,Ferguson,etc. and sometimes you may have to go down to come Back stronger

    I would support this if I felt that BSA was the right choice but we all now know this is not the case .

    As for having good players ??? is it only me that thinks Oba Martins is not up to the standard required ..yes he has a good shot but i watch him week in week out and his all round game is poor not just a bad game here and there but every time. same said for Alan Smith -overrated

    As for Michael Owen – the sooner we get rid the better…he is finished as a top footballer ..he has no pace anymore and again his all round game is average …compare his pace to that of bellamy ..whatever you think of Bellas he made us exiting to watch.

    This was brought home when my mate ,who I sit next to at the game, commented on M Owen against portsmouth … “when he was at liverpool he came here and tortured us now he does nothing. he is nowhere near as good and is living on his past reputation” and he is right. as for his injury record ..if he worked anywhere else he would be paid off on ill health grounds as he is physically incapable of performing the job of a professional footballer.

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  • Tooney

    Nov 24, 2007 at 9:43 PM

    Comment #29

    Whitey – wake up and smell the coffee!

    Not sure I can remember a worse performance and I’ve been there non-stop since 1978. Its not a few fans booing – we had 30000 singing ‘Allardyce for England’ and 50000 singing ‘you don’t know what you’re doing’. The last thing I want to do is give this clown 5 years at the helm. Stop defending the indefensible.

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  • Mike

    Nov 24, 2007 at 11:08 PM

    Comment #30

    To be honest when we signed Pig Sam I was really excited…and to be honest I’m not even sure why…I think it was mainly because it was a change from Roeder who really got to me last year. Also I looked at what he accomplished at Bolton, but now come to think of it…how can we expect him to bring Bolton “type” success to Newcastle…it’s like comparing apples and oranges… The fan support is different, the financing and expectations are different, and most of the all talent of the players are different…

    With Bolton he could basically set a system and fit players into it, but with top class players I find their adaptability is severely reduced. To me he has to find a style of play that suits the way his top flight players like to play, i.e N’zoggy and Milner both on the wings at the same time! And please stop the long bomb mentality…

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  • geordie bob

    Nov 25, 2007 at 12:05 AM

    Comment #31

    So many fans mention Sven. Did they want him after england!? no! So shut up and lets get behind Sam! cut the booing!

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  • lee

    Nov 25, 2007 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #32

    What a load of bollocks you lot spout !!!!!!

    1. How the f**k are ‘we’ a big club?? Someone PLEASE explain !!

    2. With you lot Booing the s**t out of your own team, beating them down and leaving the opposition free to pick the carcass of the players confidence .. who the hell would be stupid enough to come in as manager ??

    3. Aren’t fans supposed to support their team through thick and thin – or are you so blinkered you hark back to the days of Keegan when we won .. erm .. F**K ALL !! Yeah, glory days they were !!

    Support your team for gods sake, pray for some decent signings and hope Sam kicks out the chaff come January. He’s only spent £10 mill’ – peanuts in this day and age. The boss men need to come up with some hard cash – you can’t make a silk purse out of a pigs ear!!!

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  • Toon Andy

    Nov 25, 2007 at 1:19 AM

    Comment #33

    I’ve been behind Big Sam right since his appointment, but the last few weeks have been something of a wake-up call.

    As people have said, Allardyce’s record at Bolton suggested he would be up for this. He seemed the thinking fan’s manager, capable of getting the best from players, with transfer market acumen, an eye for neutralising the style of play of the “Big Four” and an appreciation for modern fitness methods.

    Fitness is marginally better under Sam: players are not rushed back and our injury problems seem slightly less frequent than previously. Similarly, his eye for a player has shone through in the transfer window, when he has vastly strengthened our squad, seemingly easily and with more along these lines seemingly to come.

    The thing that is most alarming is his team selection. As others have mentioned, for Big Sam it is all about the name. If you are Cacapa, five-times league champion in France, Geremi, a Chelskiy millionaire, or Owen, the darling of every blind, ignorant football fan without one iota of real knowledge, you are immune to being dropped. If you’re Obafemi Martins or James Milner, however, then the fact you’re one of the best players to appear in black and white in the past decade is completely irrelevant.

    Big Sam seems to have been stunned by the fact he now has a big job to contend with. This is also noticable in his approach to games. Playing for a draw against teams like Reading and Sunderland has really been shown up by other recent results (their aforementioned seven-goal demolitions by Pompey and Everton respectively) and put him under pressure. He applied a blanket rule there of “we try to draw away, and win at home”, then breaks it by playing conservatively today against Liverpool and presumably in a week and a half’s time against Arsenal.

    I don’t think we should be winning games against Liverpool, but we should be having a f*cking good go at them. What is the point of saying “we want a 0-0”, and then being without a Plan B when the opposition score an opening goal which, whilst spectacular, is reasonably likely given the quality of their players and the time we afforded them on the ball?

    Bolton’s win today just rubbed salt in the wounds. One commentator even remarked that it was as if Big Sam were still in charge in Lancashire. I am beginning to wish he was.

    I was so positive about Big Sam, but so far he is not living up to my expectations. He is not growing into the role in the way that I expected and it is beginning to appear that it is too much for him. I really hope I’m wrong, but that’s the way that things seem to be thus far.

    It’d be nice to combine the transfer acumen of the current manager with some passion, determination and tactical nous. I’m not sure who is out there in the coaching market who can provide this, but we need it sharpish. I hope Allardyce is big enough to admit his mistakes, spot his own flaws and develop into the man I hoped he could be, because it’s clear that he’s not that man now.

    Sell Owen to anyone stupid enough to have him. Sign attacking midfielders in the mold of Riquelme and Arshavin. Play a balanced team, favouring players who have performed well and show determination and respect for the club. Go out with honesty and integrity and try and win every game. Do this, and you’ll find that it isn’t the impossible job it’s made out to be. Honesty and hard work go a long way. Losing to Liverpool is not a disaster, but losing to them before a ball is kicked is nothing short of catastrophic.

    In 47BC, Julius Caesar remarked that “I came, I saw, I conquered”. In 2007, Allardyce has come to Newcastle. Now it’s time he saw things clearly, so that he can begin to conquer.

    And if not, maybe it’s time Sir Bobby had a persuasive chat with his former interpreter…

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  • Footballers-Life

    Nov 25, 2007 at 1:39 AM

    Comment #34

    I really sorry to say that but after what i have seen today from Newcastle, i just can say total disaster, especially in defence it looked horrible, those mistakes like when torres hit the post my god i think tehre 3 newcastle players and keeper and torres almost score, secong goal a bit lucky for liverpool, but i was watching just a highlights and i havent see any shot from newcastle though. This is going to be a really tough December for Newcastle. Allardyce has to change something otherwise is going to be really bad for them.
    I wish best guys.
    Ive been once on Newcastle matches and i really liked it:) so i hope NUFC start to play like couple years ago with sharer 🙂

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  • Mike

    Nov 25, 2007 at 3:21 AM

    Comment #35

    Just to quickly respond to Lee,

    Ya we are fans of the team, but that doesn’t mean we have to be blind to their major problems? To me you know you’re a “big” club when your fans object to bad performances and boo you off the pitch. Honestly what motivation would it be if you are a fan and you make mistakes all the time and they never get on you? To me that means the fans don’t care about your performance and thats just going to translate into the player not caring.

    Ya it looks bad that us “evil” supports are booing and criticizing “are” team when they are severely under performing, but on the flip side when they are winning we treat them almost too good. Basically the situation at Newcastle and any big sporting city remains the same…best place to play when you’re winning, worst place to play when you’re not.

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  • Spacey

    Nov 25, 2007 at 8:16 AM

    Comment #36

    pathetic, woeful and disgusting…

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  • Sandy McNair

    Nov 25, 2007 at 8:31 AM

    Comment #37

    The only good thing about this weekend was the Sunderland Score.

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  • Nobby's dad

    Nov 25, 2007 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #38

    I want to see some progress. In all honesty yesterdays performance was on a par with our worst Souness / Roader games. All of the things I expected to be put right – defending corners / denying space – basically the ‘in your face’ football that Bolton played under BSA is not happening.

    What do they do in training ? The team look like a bunch of strangers on the pitch.

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  • Sandy McNair

    Nov 25, 2007 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #39

    I would like to see BSA go as I cannot support any manager who is inept by defending a 2-0 home defeat at 46 mins, our best players out of position and then play Sh*t in midfield. Then when there is a sign of commitment and urgency by the only talent in the midfield sub him (not a fan of emre commitment generally, but the lads trying). No wonder there is such a gap between midfield and forwards (resulting in long ball from defence).

    If we new that BSA was going to be NUFC us for the next 3 years, I am sure he would get support, but in the fickle life of football the board support you one day and then sack you the next. Anyway sam will probably wipe his ass with his contract and go to the england job (i hope).

    BSA can get the respect he just needs to follow some very basic rules in newcastle.:-
    *Play players in position unless there is a huge reason not too.
    *Dont play 2 defensive Midfielders.
    *Dont play 5 defenders – ever.
    *Dont defend a loosing game – ever.
    *Dont defend a winning game until the last 15 mins.
    *Dont play the long ball from defence allllllll the time.
    *Pass the ball use the wings when possible
    *Shoot at the opponents goal
    *Dont play smith- ever
    *Play like we are in the same team!

    I think he forgets that he is in the job because of the supporters and for the supporters.

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  • Stocksy

    Nov 25, 2007 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #40

    I was very disappointed with the performance, tactics, and substitutions yesterday. Sam got it wrong and I hope he realises this. Stop worrying about injuries and the opposition and lets try and play some football.

    HOWEVER the biggest disappointment for me was the FICKLE supporters who started chanting Allardyce for IN-GER-LAND!!!! These are the same bunch who were singing Big Sams Black and White Army only a couple of games ago. Yes it is disappointing and we are on a poor run at the moment but for gods sake, do we change the manager every 10 games if we have a bad run!

    Lets get behind the team and manager and we will get through this! However, if we keep changing manager we will end up in serious trouble. Sam is in place now and we need to get behind him and support him.

    Walking out the match I ended up in a heated “debate” with another “supporter” who reckons:
    “We should break the bank and get mouniho”
    ….sorry but didnt he get sacked for placing boring football in a 4-5-1 formation?
    “Yeah but he won things” said the so called “supporter”
    ……..yeah but there is no chance of Newcastle spending £200m on players, I replied.
    “Yeah but I never wanted Allardyce in the first place” stated the so called “Supporter”

    And for me this is where the problem lies, not everyone wanted Big Sam and have been waiting for the first run of bad results so that they can say “told you so!”. Lets hope they dont get their way and Mike Ashley makes a poor decision and sacks Big Sam!!!!

    RANT OVER!

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