Who Would Replace Sam Allardyce?

A lot of people are on Sam Allardyce’s case because of the back-to-back home defeats, especially the manner of those losses. Add to this a general deterioration in Newcastle’s confidence on the pitch and the spectacular turn around at Manchester City by Sven Goran Eriksson and it seems that plenty of people want Sam out.

So, today’s question is: who would be good enough as a replacement, and would that person be willing to take the job?


Sam Allardyce – Newcastle United manager

117 comments so far

  • Doctapaul

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #1

    I’d look at the option of appointing Care-Taker Managers to season’s end.

    That way no face is lost if it doesn’t come off AND we can take a risk. to see if it will come off.

    I would ask Shearer and an elder; (IF he’ll come) Keegan or Venables. He forged good relationships with both at Club and International levels.

  • Merwe

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #2

    Capello,Lippie.These are managers with a proven trakrecord at the highest level.Something that Big Sam doesnt have!!

  • adam

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #3

    luis van gaal, martin jol, mourinho, martin oneil, slavan bilic etc etc

  • Rich

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #4

    Ye id take Martin Jol without a doubt! Realistically out of that list Adam hed be our best chance. He knows how to play football, is ambitious and he is a good manager, he had a hard time this season but the previous 2 years he did very well with Spurs and i think he would love the toon job

  • iain

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #5

    jol, prandelli, van gaal, pellegrinni, houlier, ranieri, bilic, shearer(with venables helping him), redknapp, leo beenhakker.

    thats about our lot for decent managers we could attract imo. van gaal i wouldnt want though as his ego is too big and would just cause trouble.

    mourinho/benitez/rijkaard/lippi/capello as very long shots but definatly worth asking before any others.

    benitez and rijkaard sound like they could be jobless by xmas and mourinho is out of work as is cappello/lippi.

  • Davey G

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #6

    Why would anyone want Martin Jol? What exactly did he do at Tottenham, except build a team of individual players? Please someone tell me that I havent been kidnapped by the same people who have the child benefit register which would have made me miss all the success Jol had at Tottenham?

  • true

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #7

    Martin Jol – you must be having a laugh!
    firstly SAM will be given to the end of the season and rightly so.
    WE DONT want Big Al neither let him cut his teath and make his mistakes at a lower less costly level.
    Remember Rome wasnt built in a day and BS needs also to learn how to manage a team with expectations that are greater than survival. Also remember we are not top four anymore and it will take several years to position our selves as a contender, so as long as we dont look like we will go daown give him time lots of it.

  • Alan

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #8

    No-One. Give Sam a bit of time before we start asking questions like this. It serves no purpose and gives people the wrong Idea.
    A couple of weeks ago (Alright maybe more than a couple) Sam was the next best thing since sliced Pan and his team looked Great on the Pitch.
    He’d got us off to the best start in years and actually started looking at the defence and Injuries. A Blip (and that is all this is is a blip) and we’re all singing for his Head, It’s unreal! Even Fort Knox started with a foundation and a few blocks before something has been built. we need to cut out expectations and Accept that this year, we’re Mid table at best. No more of this “We’re good enough for the top 4” rubbish and let’s all get behind the Manager and team so when we do enter the upper echelons (And we WILL, but not this year or next), we’ll all have done oty together, fans board managment and team!!!

  • iain

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #9

    rome wasnt built in a day but they didnt pay a blind bricklayer to build it either.

    sam is making too many basic mistakes to fill anyone with hope for the future. more players would surely mean more tinkering. geremi at the weekend reminded me of the time under souness our player ran into each other, so clueless were they as to what they were suposed to be doing.

    smith just plain ignored any calls for him to pl rm.

    jol is a much better manager than allardyce and i would happily bet he will win a trophy as a manager before allardyce does. he got shafted at spurs having his best players sold from under his feet and crap replacments bought for him. spurs board are more interested in making money than winning owt. just look at ramos they have refused his request to sign 3 players becuase they are over 25 and yet only the keeper he wants is over 30.

    a basic understanding of football is what our manager needs and sams modern approach isnt that.

  • aaron d

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #10

    Alan Shearer – no experiance, but a fan favorate, could attrack big players and back-room staff, would need support from an experianced mentor.

    Jose Mourinho – doubt he would come, but would be my favorate, fast flowing football but will had a lot of cash to get things started.

    I would like to say give sam more time, but i don’t want to be in a relgation battle by xmas.

  • StevieA

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #11

    Is it Sams fault the players can’t pass for toffee? Is it Sams fault that the players seem to bottle it at every opportunity?

    I don’t think it is! So have some faith in the man and give him time. It’s the players once again who are letting Newcastle United down. We should take some lessons from Liverpool and learn how to pass and work the ball, it looks easy doesn’t it? Well that’s because it is! Our players make it seem like passing the ball is a hard thing to do. Something is wrong but it’s not the manager.

  • Davey G

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #12

    Stevie A, I agree with a bit of your last mail, HOWEVER, is it the players fault that most are playing out of position, is it the players fault that incorrect substitutions are carried out on a weekly basis. Is it the players fault that too many underperforming players are being picked whilst the better performers are left on the bench or played out of position…..could it be this that players are lacking passion and or commitment….or is it just the fact that nobody knows where they are are what they are doing???

  • iain

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #13

    the players that sam signed, that sam gives instruction how to play, the same players that sam puts under pressure by playing them out of position thus making it harder for them to pass having to use there weaker feet (milner/zog), the same players that sam picks even when they arnt playing well or doing what hes asked ?

    sorry but it has everything to do with the manager.

    if its geremi fault hes been so bad for us, its surely sams role to help him and give him protection and not to pick a team that exposes and confuses geremi as to where hes playing.

    and if smith was meant to be doing that then thats another failure of sam for failing to either make smith play rm or take him off and put milner on or geremi to rw and carr/edgar to rb. smith was sams signing yet he let his teamate geremi down against liverpool by not doing his role.

    either way sam is too balme for that shamble down our right side vs liverpool.

  • Doctapaul

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #14

    StevieA, when a highly talented team is consistently underperforming; ie giving or accepting 2nd best then what do you do?

    Don’t tell me that Zog, Barton, Smith or Emre can’t pass a ball. They can.

    There is something more fundamentally wrong at Newcastle. It ain’t about skills, it’s more about wingless tactics with a tall striker.

  • Greg B

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #15

    I think we are over reacting slightly here, whilst I agree the recent performances have not been good enough, and to a certain extent Allardyce’s tactic’s and substitutions have been somewhat puzzling, I dont think we should be thinking about replacing Sam at this point.
    By Xmas we should have Duff and Owen back in the team, Cacapa, Faye and Taylor should all be back in contention and I think overall we will have a much more balanced squad with the likes of Barton, Garemi, Smith, Faye and Beye having had a good 4-5 months at the club.
    I accept Eriksson has worked wonders at City and yes, there are several players there with little or no Prem experience, but Eriksson, ignoring his attepts at the England job, is a world class club manager. He was one of the top club managers around when the FA appointed him as the England boss.
    The only change I would make at this point is, if he was interested or could be persuaded, bring Shearer in, not to step on Allardyces toes, but to assist Allardyce, work with Viduka, Owen, Martins, etc on the training ground. Basically just get him involved. Shearer IMO would be an outstanding coach and with experience make a top manager.
    Give Allardyce more time and get Shearer involved would be my decision at this point in time, certainly untill Xmas at the very least.

  • Len

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #16

    Lets add Lawrie Sanchez, Steve Coppell and Otto Rehhagel to the list. They have all done well from the off and with limited resources. And Klinsmann. With our fans and press having a manager who lives 10,000 miles away could be a major advantage. The big question here may not be who do we want but who would drink from the poison chalice?

  • Jay

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #17

    Get over it…….Big Sam will not be sacked and that’s that, so wind your neck’s in and start being faithful to the Toon……few bad results and we all start to flap!!!! Why not get behind the Manager and behind the Team……that’s what being a FAN is all about………is’nt it?????

  • sirjasontoon

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #18

    Len the problem with Sam is he is so used to limited rescources we need a manager that can manage finances and manage quality players, we don’t want a go cart like bolton built with scrap parts we want an aston martin built with precision and quality components.
    Sam can do neither of those things.
    We need a big name at the helm fast.

  • iain

    Nov 26, 2007 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #19

    if isnt getting sacked whydid mort say on sky there might not be any funds for sam in january ?

  • Macas

    Nov 26, 2007 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #20

    In response to some of the comments above, a couple of weeks ago we weren’t looking great at all.
    We haven’t played well all season in my opinion, and it was just a matter of time before we were found out – ie when we started playing the good teams.
    And no thanks to Martin Jol – his transfer policy is awful (look how many players he signed who hardly ever played), plus he signed Jenas!
    Sam’s ‘tactics’ are woeful, and I dont think I’ve ever seen a crowd turn on a manager so quicky.
    Give him till the end of Decemeber to try and sort it out, but if we are still just as bad then he has to go before the transfer window.
    Saturday was the worst performance I have seen for a long long time – worse than Souness or Roeder.

  • Davey G

    Nov 26, 2007 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #21

    Jay, being a fan is about having an opinion!!! If you went to buy a 42 inch plasma telly, got it home and it didnt work, would you sit back and say ” oh dear, nevermind it looks pretty”?

    I dont think you would, would you. I dont mind big sam to be honest, but unless he changes his ethic of wanting to draw away from home and avoid defeat against the big four, then this will always work against him and upset the fans. All the fans want is by hook or by crook, see their team win. Derby and Reading are the ideal scenario’s to show BSA’s negative tactics no longer work in the EPL!!! Prove me wrong……..

  • Will

    Nov 26, 2007 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #22

    What?? I can’t belive we’re already talking about replacing sam. He’s a class manager and he just needs a chance, at least let’s wait and see where we finish at the end of the season before we ditch him.
    That’s what Newcastle’s problem has been over the past few seasons, we’ve been to happy to get rid of our managers after they havn’t even had time to settle in to the job.

  • Doctapaul

    Nov 26, 2007 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #23

    Jay, being a fan is about being entertained.

    When was the last time Newcasyle strung more than 15 minutes of entertaining football together.

    Where is the next goal coming from. When will it be scored???

    If you wanna stick with Sam you have every right to do so.

    If you think that anyone who doesn’t agree with you is not a fan, then you might find yourself marginalised.

  • Jarrajackie

    Nov 26, 2007 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #24

    Lets not forget that Ashley did not pick Sam, and pre season there was comments flying around about giving Sam a season to see how it went, I believe Sams finished in the Toon now, having heard a comment from a very highly thought of ex Newcastle player saying “don’t worry obout him (Sam) he’ll be gone in a couple of weeks” in the hopitality attached to the directors box on Saturday after the match. This guy was not kidding, and Ashley has the financial clout and the will to do something about it.

  • Nobby's dad

    Nov 26, 2007 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #25

    Right – give it to Martin Jol – the guy who pays £7 + million for Jenas, £8 million for Kabul and £16 milion for Bent would obviously be an improvement??

    Like it or not we all need to get behind the manager and the team. The Johny come lately muppets who booed everthing on Saturday should f**k off – we don’t need them. I remember the days when we had Bill McGary in charge – now that football did stink!!

  • iain

    Nov 26, 2007 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #26

    duh and waht happened to mcgarry for being so crap.

    take a guess.

    he got sacked.

    just becuase we were once crap in a lower devision with no money to spend doesnt mean we should accept being crap in the pl with a team full of internationals and being one of the richest clubs in the league.

    as for slagging jols signings he didnt want half of them they were bought as investments by the board on the advice of commolli the sporting director.

    and even though most of them were crap whe he had his two best players carrick and king he got them to top 6 twice.

    im not saying hes the best manager going, but hes a much better manager than allardyce is or ever will be.

    hes already been offered the psv job, do you think sam would ever get offered that job.

  • Nobby's dad

    Nov 26, 2007 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #27

    As I recall McGarry was in charge 77-80 – not 13 games. The constant stuff about none of the signings at Spuds being Jol’s has never actually been confirmed as fact.

    Would you welcome a manager who accepts a situation where someone else buys his players for him?? I’m not an Allardyce apologist – but this club need to stop chopping and changing ever few months.

    I was ashamed of the crowd on Saturday – we were always noted as fair and knowledgable supporters – many acted like fickle Spurs / Man Utd fans on Saturday. That team doesn’t go out lose – we should get behind them. It’s not blind support – it’s team support!!

  • Doctapaul

    Nov 26, 2007 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #28

    Dear Nobbys Dad, On Saturday, most people around me were aiming their voices at Sam not the Team.

    We don’t expect miracles. We do expect improvement and entertainment.

    We are currently playing (at best) the same as we were under Souness, Roeder, Dalglish and Charlton.

    After a few flattering results, belying a lot of luck and poor football, we would normally be heading for Championship. Luckily we have Derby, Wigan, Boro and Mackems to cushion us from the drop. Evry other team right now is playing better football than us – agree?

    Make no mistake, on Saturday we looked like relegation fodder. As we did the home match before. We were embarrassed by a team who probably will get relegated – Sunderland.

    How bad does it have to get before you change your mind?

  • Neil

    Nov 26, 2007 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #29

    I think the problem with the fans who don’t like Allardyce is the manner in which we get beat not the actual getting beat itself and this is why this debate even exists. Imagine when the 2nd goal went in if NUFC had went all guns blazing at LFC at we gave it a right good go you’d have people on here saying yeah we got beat but at least we gave it our best – However that did not happen. I watched the game on tv and give immense praise and respect to the people who go to see the club we all love week in week out because quite frankly I wont. I haven’t been regurlarly since Bobby was manager out of principle because year after year utter dross has been served up all too frequently. I can acknowledge that it’s a good job everyone isn’t like me or we’d have no support in the stadium too by the way – that is not the point I am trying to make here. To watch our team struggle with such basic things as pass & move, marking in general play & set pieces, closing people down, making life difficult for the opposition was really quite worrying.
    I think we’d all agree (Even those really ticked off with Sam) that 13/14 games is not enough time to give a bloke in a new job but we’d also agree that the players are, every week, played out of position in at least 2 areas. Liken it to your own work place – Would the accountant working as the cleaner and vice versa make for a successful business? No it certainly wouldn’t and it’s things like this that make us, the fans, doubt Allardyce’s credentials not the fact that Liverpool beat us 3-0 on our own patch.
    Regardless of what we all think I am pretty sure (Not 100% mind!!) that he will still be in charge of the next 13/14 games so we will have to put up with it whether that means booing him and his decisions or whether to support him and the team whole heartedly.

  • iain

    Nov 26, 2007 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #30

    the tactics and team selection has been viewed by many as just the same as going out to loose.

    the day we sit back and start accepting tripe like that liverpool game will be the day the fans stop turning up.

    what worries me about the 13 games weve played is the team doesnt look any better than last season and at times worse.

    no fans in the league would sit there and clap the kind of crud weve been served up against pompey and liverpool. which were both performances of players not responding to the manager.

    as for jol i think he accepted it to a point becuase he knew he had good players like carrick and that its often the way things are done when big bids coem in for players. the problem was spurs board were buying players for financial reasons not playing ones.

  • Nobby's dad

    Nov 26, 2007 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #31

    I’m not some blind supporter of Allardyce – I posted on here after the Portsmouth game that I had seroius doubts about him. My concern is that as supporters we are becoming a laughing stock.

    OK people can shout you don’t know what your doing – but on Saturday the team BSA built at Bolton beat the Premier champions – he must have been doing something right. IMO the problem is that he bought too many new players – I’d have rather seen 2+ top class players come in but he was under pressure to sort out so many areas of the team.

    We all know that the player out there are better than they are showing – booing (and lets be honest there was next to no cheering) affects the players and their performances. Just get behind the team and maybe with support instead of constant criticism they may begin to improve.

    Remember how the Manc’s were all calling for Fergie to go when he’d won nothing in his 1st few seasons – re-building takes time, hang on in and CHEER the lads on.

  • Davey G

    Nov 26, 2007 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #32

    i suggest that Sam Allardyce goes back to basics. 4 – 4- 2
    Given – Beye- Resenhal-Faye-Enrique-Nzog-Butt-Barton-Milner-Viduka-Martins.
    He needs to drop the underperformers like Smith, Geremi, Emre and forget about the likes of Carr, Taylor, Duff, Owen. These should be Squad Players until they prove otherwise!!!!!
    And Please in the Jan transfer window, buy a bloody playmaker, and a proven one at that, even if it means breaking the bank.

  • Davey G

    Nov 26, 2007 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #33

    But Nobby’s Dad, I agree with players take time to settle, and he probably did bring in too many players at once, but on current showing the majority of players he has brought are currently not good enough so he should be dropping them!! play the players who have performed relatively well when in the team this season. Stop dropping Milner and interchanging Charlie and Milner. Play milner in place of Smith. Play Beye in Place of Geremi, play them all in position. MILNER is currently the Best player at the club, Why o Why is he the first one dropped and a Low scoring centre forward come central midfielder, who kicks everything above grass level played in his place? Why take off NZog (LW) and Replace him with a right winger and Leave an inneffective A.Smith on the pitch? The gripe isnt with the Manager because he signed too many players, it is with his tactics and the way he uses the players!!!

  • Doctapaul

    Nov 26, 2007 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #34

    ND, Davey G is not wrong.

  • Davey G

    Nov 26, 2007 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #35

    Jarra jackie, this would not surprise me in the slightest. We Play Blackburn Rovers AWAY next week and then Arsenal at Home the following week. I predict 2 defeats. Reason being, I have seen nothing to say that we will break our terrible run of away results, and if you cannot beat Arsenal second String, what hope do you have of beating their first team?

    £75 m was wiped of Mr Ashley’s business interests last week, anymore losses fianancially for the fella could just make him react to growing pressure and the risk of making yet more losses in the business world, to appoint a new exciting Manager at his football club which would increase interest and certainly boost merchandising would be very appealing to even the least ambitious business man!!!!

  • Nobby's dad

    Nov 26, 2007 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #36

    I accept everything that’s been said – mind you I didn’t think it was unreasonable to take the Zog off on Saturday – I thought he had a stinker (but granted not that much worse than most). Beye was at CB because of injuries. IMO Butt is our best player at present (which in itself is worrying).

    I honestly don’t know what the answer is – all I do know is that a club which changes manager every season, as we do, is heading nowhere. At the end of the day Ashley will act if things don’t improve. The booing won’t change anything, all it does is sour the atmosphere on match day and demotivate players.

  • Doctapaul

    Nov 26, 2007 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #37

    Sam Allardyce quotes, SkySportsNews, Sunday:

    “It can’t be done in a short period of time. ”

    Yeh Sam, Tell that to Man City and Porstmouth supporters.

    You’re running out of excuses.

  • Davey G

    Nov 26, 2007 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #38

    I do NOT condone the booing of players, and never will, better things to spend my money on than a match ticket just to go and boo at people, however, Players who allow themselves to be demotivated by fans booooing are not wanted at this club!!

    Mr Gerrard, who recieved the most boo’s all day, certainly didnt get demotivated did he???

  • Sour Grapes

    Nov 26, 2007 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #39

    Steven Gerrard is Liverpool (with Torres mind you.)

    Liverpool is Gerrard.

    He’s world class. I wish he was at Newcastle.

    Take G&T out of Liverpool team and what’s left maybe good but not that good.

  • Obafan

    Nov 26, 2007 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #40

    Get rid of SA, it’s logic that it isn’t easy to build a new team and that everybody needs time to do that (except Eriksson but okay). But I think if you’re building up a new team that you have to see a positive development in play week in week out. Does that happen?

    NO, on the contrary, every week seems harder and harder to reach the backline and to get a corner. If we get a corner kick next week what a level we would reach. For me SA prooves that he ran out of ideas and that he is waisting the players out of their positions. He tries to cover his mistakes by making substitutions which just replace a player not reform his squad (Milner in N’Zogbia out was just a player change not a tactical one). He is annoying the players and that for me is the reason why they are slipping their passion, cause we have to admit that is the case.

    Go for:
    Jol (who did a fantastic job at Spurs)
    Mourinho (he will never come, but we can offer him something and try)
    Van Gaal


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