Joey Barton Meant Well

Joey Barton’s attempts to get the Newcastle fans on his side yesterday were a little cumbersome, but we think Joey was honestly trying to ask the fans to support the players.

It’s certainly true that when fans boo the players at St. James’ Park it doesn’t help the player and it doesn’t help the team.


Joey Barton – we think he meant well with his comments yesterday

But there again the fans are paying customers, and they have a right to their free speech, and usually take that opportunity especially when things are not going well, which has been quite a lot of times since Sir Bobby Robson left.    🙁

But in general it seems to us that Joey’s comments have been generally fairly well understood by the fans. Certainly the traveling fans on Saturday at Ewood Park were juts magnificent and brought accolades from the T V commentators on the day.

In fact TV commentator Gerry Francis, the former Birmingham City manager, set the stage when he started out the broadcast by making this insightful comment:

“If Newcastle players had shown the consistency of the Newcastle fans week in and week out, Newcastle United would be top of the league.”

We thought that was a great comment that Gerry started the broadcast with. And it was very true that Francis was not going to be critical of the Geordie Faithful in any way. He also rightly pointed out there seemed to be no malice towards Barton during the game. In fact Barton had a decent game, and hopefully is coming back into his best form. He was surprisingly preferred yesterday to Emre in central midfield, but played quite well nevertheless. One cross-field ball to the gutsy Martins, was just beautiful to watch, in the first half.

But now all attention will shift to the Arsenal game at St. James’ Park on Wednesday evening. Another gutsy performance from the Newcastle team, backed fully by our fantastic and faithful fans, and anything is possible – even against Arsenal.

Comments welcome.

21 comments so far

  • Leo

    Dec 2, 2007 at 8:16 PM

    Comment #1

    i thought that he meant well. he is s clever so n so. the fans backed the team-ie what he wanted…

  • ToonKing

    Dec 2, 2007 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #2

    i loved it when the fans were singing: We are the geordies, the geordie boot boys……

    quality support, hope we get that at St James too.

  • Hadrian

    Dec 2, 2007 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #3

    come off it ED , he had a go at the fan’s !! thats suicide , especially the way he and the team has been playing , he had no right whatsoever.
    all was needed was a call for support , not a verbal attack on the fans .
    viscous is paying to0 support this club year after year while the management makes incompitent mistake’s , were still in the middle of one of those .
    geordies are taking ALOT of stick atm , and none of its warrented .
    newcastle wouldnt be the ‘sleeping giant’ it is without us , we’ve won bugger all like the rest of the league likes to remind us , yet we are the ‘big club’ sam’s always wanted to manage … all down to the support this club still gets from its fans .
    we supply the revenue year after year to keep this club’s reasources appealing enough for billionares wanting to invest , for the likes of barton to get his 30-50k a week .
    you’d have to be an idiot to blame us , i suppose were to blame for the perfomances against the mackems , derby and reading aswell then .
    wasnt viscous at those games yet they still walked away with more money ill see this year .

  • Rob Kirton

    Dec 2, 2007 at 8:34 PM

    Comment #4

    Should be an intersting interview with Barton on radio 5 – Monday night. The snippets that have played as a trailer have made him seem a little whingeing and self pitying. I didn’t mean to start that fight…. I didn’t mean to stub out a cigar in the guys eye, I was aiming for the back of his head and he turned around (this one made me laugh)

    Maybe this was case of careful editing as a teaser.

    I’ve always had some degree of sympathy for Barton , I suspect he takes a lot of flack for his personal life and is this, that causes a lot of the scrapes he gets into. How much he goes into that I don’t know, but it still should be worth a listen.

    RE: The Arsenal game. I recall a game under Roeders leadership when we played an absolute stormer getting a draw, with a team of young lads absolutely fighting for every ball and not conceding an inch. Can Allardyce prove himself to be as good a man motivator?

    So far Alardyce has not proven himself to be any better than Roeder. Time to step up to the plate me-thinks.

  • Eve

    Dec 2, 2007 at 8:39 PM

    Comment #5

    Rob Kirton..Arsenal match..was that the one when Given and Dyer were back after long spells out??
    If it was then ya, that was a hell of a match. They were lucky to score against us that day, it took an amazing free kick that hit the under of the bar to beat Given that day. He played some blinder.

    If it’s not then I don’t know what one you’re on about. LOL!!

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 2, 2007 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #6

    baron is on 60k a week son.

  • George

    Dec 2, 2007 at 9:32 PM

    Comment #7

    Bartons comments were meant well for the right reasons, however, it was the press who manipulated the final placing of words that we all read.
    barton has got valid points to make, but, he should also realise that as it is us who put the cash in the pot that pay his wages. If we are indirectly paying him his very generous salary, we are entitled to have an opinion, and that opinion has come out in the form of fans utterly bemused at SAs selections and positions on the pitch. Barton should have also realised that this is the passion we have for the team and will not accept third rate performances from anyone, after all i can remember Alan Shearer being critiscised on a couple of occaisions, proving NO BODY is bigger than the club.

  • Toon Chicken

    Dec 2, 2007 at 9:48 PM

    Comment #8

    A bloke who stubbed a cigar out in the eye of a kid thinks people who boo at football matches are vicious. Hahahahaha.

    Might be best to keep your gob shut next time Joey. Idiot!

  • JW

    Dec 2, 2007 at 9:53 PM

    Comment #9

    But booing during matches doesn’t help us win games, so whats the point of it? What’s more important: you having your say and a bit boo or the Toon winning games? You talk about Allardyce’s selections like he’d left Ronaldo, Kaka, Ronaldinho, and Torres on the bench and played academy kids in their place! So he played N’Zogbia on the right and Milner on the left, BIG DEAL! It’s not huge decisions we’re talking about here. We wouldn’t be up in the top four or even the top six regardless of these decisions.

    Stop being selfish kids some fans and support your team!!!

  • Dave

    Dec 2, 2007 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #10

    Only a complete and utter moron could possibly come up with that quote “Barton meant Well” says as much about Edd Harrison as it does about Barton

  • ToonKing

    Dec 2, 2007 at 10:49 PM

    Comment #11

    i may be a little to aggresive but sometimes i myself would like to put a cigar out in a few peoples eyes……….so Joey i’m proud of you. You are a pioneer…………… 🙂

  • Hadrian

    Dec 2, 2007 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #12

    if you line up sam’s fixtures next to roeders last year , roeder comes out on top , scary huh .
    and 60k a week for barton ehh , doubt he commanded that cash at man city , needs to remember why this club can afford those kind of wages .

  • Bill f

    Dec 2, 2007 at 11:25 PM

    Comment #13

    The big question in all of this has to be, if Joey is a dedicated professional why was he smoking, doesn’t he know how bad this is for the lungs. 😉

  • JW

    Dec 2, 2007 at 11:27 PM

    Comment #14

    First off, have you ever heard of the concepts of subjectivity and objectivity? Objectivly Sam might not have won games Roeder did, I don’t know. But subjectivley, as applys to the specific games, this seasons games are not the same as last seasons games So you can’t just rate Allardyce against Roeder based purely on a handful of games. You need some concrete if you want to compare them; like champions league qualification or cup wins. So no it’s not scary and it’s not an interesting orr meaningful fact either.

    Secondly, so what if Barton gets paid his wages indirectly by the fans? Does that mean he can’t have an opinion? Does it mean he’s somekind of servant who can’t dare criticize his employers, even when he’s right?

    God, now I know why I stopped posting on these things…

  • Bill f

    Dec 2, 2007 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #15

    This was a comment I made earlier (blue Peter or what) the last bit was about Joey so I thought I would recycle it.

    It’s not the fact that we lost some matches it was the way we lost them that has been irking people.
    We all know we in a transition period and will lose matches I don’t think anyone really has a problem with that. But obviously stupid tactical changes that mess up the players and team cohesion are what is getting up everyones noses.

    Sam needs to start focussing on getting it right or he will be getting his P45. I am not necessarilly saying he should, it is just a fact of football life, losers get the sack.

    Oh and Barton is a very intelligent guy I don’t think he would say something without realising what he is saying. I think he is smart enough to know the vicious criticism will stop when the team performances pick up.

  • Len

    Dec 3, 2007 at 2:30 AM

    Comment #16

    I think the whole thing was a PR stunt to try and deflect criticism after some absolutely appauling displays. Giving the script to cigar in the face, fight in a bar, deck my mates, kick in the groin, Barton was genius.

  • JW

    Dec 3, 2007 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #17

    Or maybes he said it off his own bat because it was what he believed, eh? I know it’s a crazy idea but try and stay with me on this one…

  • steve

    Dec 3, 2007 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #18

    to be fair – after reading the whole article in the Guardian it wasn’t as bad as made out.
    It was actually Peter Crouch who said the fans are vicious and Joey was simply telling the press that – he’s right that players dont perform well when constantly booed.
    However – the fans deserve to see effort and commitment, after all if we didn’t turn up they’d be on the dole ( sky wouldn’t show a team with an empty stadium very often)
    We have a right to be entertained – if I goto see any other form of entertainment I walk out if its rubbish and wouldn’t go and see it again hoping that it might of gotten better in a week or two.

  • Hadrian

    Dec 3, 2007 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #19

    ohh , so i cant compare results and get ageneral idea of these two managers acomplishments at the toon .
    im sorry but, subjective/objective sam’s results are worse than roeders , cant hide from that and you can use them as good basis to compare the two , after all sam shoved the first 10 games down our throats as being the best start in ages , im shoving all our games down his throat as being worse than what roeder managed for the same fixtures

  • andyc290

    Dec 3, 2007 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #20

    I think theres a certain kind of fan that Barton was aiming his comments at – the type that says nothing in support of the team but criticises them at every opportunity, in the last 17 years ive sat in all four stands at St James and there is an increasing number of these characters present at the games. Funnily enough you they dont seem to make the effort to go to the away games. Maybe if they did theyd learn what its all actually about. I wish theyd do one and go and spend their money elsewhere – sitting there and whinging for 90 minutes isnt my idea of fun so why do they bother?

  • andyc290

    Dec 3, 2007 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #21

    Steve – ‘We have a right to be entertained – if I goto see any other form of entertainment I walk out if its rubbish and wouldn’t go and see it again hoping that it might of gotten better in a week or two.’

    Please see above. If you want to boo ive heard theres a few good pantos on at the theatre royal this time of year.


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