Sam Will Do The Job at Newcastle

We hate to be the odd people out here, but we believe Sam Allardyce can do a good job at Newcastle United, and we’re ready to put that out, even though it will be criticized in some quarters.


Sam Allardyce – will get the job done at Newcastle – we’re now sure of that

We’re not sure just how far Sam can take us, but the job he did at Bolton with very little funds, and the way the team played last night against Arsenal, while under tremendous pressure, convinces us that good things are on the way at Newcastle.

Yes, we know we haven’t done well over the last 6 games, taking only 2 points from the 18 available, but last night could well be a turning point for the team, and certainly Sam has been given excellent support within the club, during this difficult period. That has come from Chris Mort, our Chairman who to us is getting better and better in the job every day. And of course our number one fan these days, the Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley.   😀

As we pointed out after the game last night, the reaction from Mike at the final whistle, told it all. He was smiling broadly and clapping his hands and then started to rub his hands, as if to say – now here we go. It was just great to see. Mike looks like any other Newcastle United fan in the crowd, but he seems like a very special person at the club these days.  Certainly you cannot accuse him of not being a huge fan of the club he owns.

And whether you like Sam Allardyce or not, you’ve got to give the man credit for being able to inspire his players with a performance like last night, which had everybody who saw the game applauding the Newcastle effort, which came during a time of great adversity. Even Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger applauded Newcastle’s gritty performance.

Yes, we’ll be blasted by some for being positive on Sam, and yes, we’ve had far too many false dawns these last few decades, and we’re not getting carried away. Well not too much anyway.

Last night was a performance of grit, courage and not a little skill, and we hope it will be the launching pad for Newcastle into something much better – that the fans have deserved for many a long day.

And don’t let anybody say that the Geordie fans aren’t the very best around, when millions of people saw that last night, as the game was beamed live around the world.

Yes, we need to start winning games, starting against Birmingham on Saturday. But the grit shown by the team last night, plus the patient and great support shown by the fans is a combination that can still garner us many points this season.

We support the manager,  and hope he can go onto greater things at the club.  He showed last night that he’s tough enough to do the job at Newcastle, and we think he’s earned the support of the Newcastle United fans everywhere.  At the very least he deserves a chance and we’re sure he’ll now get that chance.  Howay the Lads!

Comments welcome.

43 comments so far

  • Chris Bunton

    Dec 6, 2007 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #1

    The team looked balanced last night with wingers, Taylor and Roz at the back and Smudger up front. I thought Taylor and Smudger were class, so I hope Sam learns and stops playing Smudge out of position and keeps Tayls in!

  • Chris Bunton

    Dec 6, 2007 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #2

    I don’t want to burst the bubble of optimism from last night but Im still not convinced on Sam. I actually expected a good performance last night because Sams teams always do well against Arsenal, he seems to have Wengers number. I’ll judge Sam on his performances against the Derbys, Boros and Portsmouths. Its no good being able to match Arsenal if we can’t match the lesser teams. I think Sam needs to be able to change his tactics for the teams he plays and last nights tactics were good against Arsenal, but he needs to play a more passing game against technically inferior teams. When we have superior players we should use skill to beat teams and when we are inferior we use blood and guts.

  • leo

    Dec 6, 2007 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #3

    if we play the way that we did against arsenal against everyone we can be really sucessful i believe

  • nightfall

    Dec 6, 2007 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #4

    i’m also not convinced on Sam…
    he is too stubborn to admit when he’s wrong…he started playing smith as striker when he saw viduka is not as good as he was (bad buy), owen is injured (is he’d be ok, sam would still put smith to play as a midfielder, eventhough we suck with him on midfield – we play disconnected and smith just runs after the ball like some……….) and we all know shola doesn’t have the quality…

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 6, 2007 at 6:32 PM

    Comment #5

    im starting to belive mre in him, his long ball tactics seem to be dying down with i like as its a blend of both, both can be exciting.

    Hopefully he gets backe in the transfer market and buys a creative midfielder who can play right wing: Kahlenberg/Arshavin and a young target man: Chikhaoui (Unlikely + Did tunisia qualify for ANC) or Chamakh (Did morroco qualiy, if not buy him, snip at around 3 mil)

  • Cockney Magpie

    Dec 6, 2007 at 6:33 PM

    Comment #6

    it is impossible to judge a manager after 6 months i say lets give him at very least 1 hole season before we even start thinking about say he is not the man for the job. if he can get the same work rate and passion running through the team as we saw against arsenal then we are once again going to be a force to be reckoned with home and away. it took him time to get that passion and work rate out of bolton and now he needs time to bring it into our boys

  • Jerry

    Dec 6, 2007 at 7:06 PM

    Comment #7

    Allardyce will never be in the same category a Wenger, a Benitez, Ferguson or a Mourinho.

    Depends on NUFC’s ambition. If we really want to get into the top 4 then we need a manager equally as good as these, and Sam, am afraid to say, is not in that class.

  • UTD111

    Dec 6, 2007 at 7:16 PM

    Comment #8

    You wont get any criticism from me for your view – Allardyce should be given time to continue to introduce professionalism into the club.

    Last night might have been a one-off in early days – but it was clear that the whole team played for the manager and the fans, and Alan Smith was superb up front – even better than he played against Everton if thats possible.

    Give Allardyce a couple of years – if he doesnt last that long it will be Mike Ashley who fires the bullet – a ruthless, successful businessman always knows whether the people working for him are quality – or not.

    Haway the lads!

  • david bulman

    Dec 6, 2007 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #9

    the reason we done well last night was we played a 4-4-2 with milner on the wing and smith upfront was excellent.smith has been 1 of our worst players as he has being playing in midfield and is useless there,enrique should have been left back not nzogbia as hes a midfielder and made a mess of clearence last night.please sam play the players in their proper positions.

  • devine1

    Dec 6, 2007 at 7:59 PM

    Comment #10

    Fergusson was one game away from being fired at Man U and look what he has achieved. Allardyce needs time and so do his signings.

  • Rob Kirton

    Dec 6, 2007 at 8:09 PM

    Comment #11

    Jerry: I agree with your sentiment about Allardyce in comparison with other managers. I had said in an earlier post that he is a Wannabe and that we are his main chance. If he can motivate the team and set them up to play to play the right game against whatever team that turns up – that will be great. He will deserve our full backing. I personally still have big doubts, however what can we do but support the team as best we can?

    I think that in many ways, the next 4 games are going to be a bigger test than last night

  • steve c

    Dec 6, 2007 at 8:26 PM

    Comment #12

    Not a pretty performance but certainly
    effective. But the main thing last night was the noise and support coming from most of the Toon Army.
    There are still plenty of so called supporters who just sit there and dont get behind the team. Come on you lot, you saw how fired up the lads were last night now get off your arses and get behind the lads, or f***k off somewhere else.

  • scott 9

    Dec 6, 2007 at 8:30 PM

    Comment #13

    team played exellent last night i would just love to see this team.
    beye taylor faye enrique
    milner ————–zog
    this would be a quality side in my opinion

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 6, 2007 at 8:52 PM

    Comment #14

    drop butt and viduka.

  • Hadrian

    Dec 6, 2007 at 8:53 PM

    Comment #15

    lets wait till the next 4 games are out the way and see where we are .

  • Cockney Magpie

    Dec 6, 2007 at 9:03 PM

    Comment #16

    To Jerry and everybody who agrees, how can u say he is not in their class! im afraid to say u are talkin shite, Allardyce has never been in charge of one of the top four so how in the world could u compare him to one of their managers, especially when all of the top four (except man u) were top four teams before their mnagers were there, do u think mourinho, wenger, benitex etc would have got Bolton on the brink on champs league? i do not know but i dont think we can say he is not in the same class as them managers when it is impossible to say.

  • Brisbane Mag

    Dec 6, 2007 at 9:05 PM

    Comment #17

    Too early to say BSA will be a success or a failure; just far to early to make that a prediction!

    He brought in many good players in the summer spending very little money. We need to give him more cash in January if we’re to make a push for Europe……..

    Very pleased with the display against Arsenal; good display and could have won.

  • Cockney Magpie

    Dec 6, 2007 at 9:07 PM

    Comment #18

    if we get rid of Big Sam any time in the next 4 years i think we would hve taken the biggest step backwards. We need stability at the club and Big Sam is a good, passionate manager and anybody who thinks we should get rid of him is just a complete fool. where has sacking managers early got us in the past? il tell u were its got us lower and lower in the league. Open ur eyes lads jesus!

  • Tripp

    Dec 6, 2007 at 9:18 PM

    Comment #19

    All this talk of comparing SA to top 4 managers is absolute bollocks. Pure shite. It’s completely irrelevant because NUFC isn’t likely to be able to bring in a manager of that calibre at this point. So making statements like that is just plain stupid. SA was actually a good choice because he has experience building teams up with nowt. Considering where NUFC was financially when SA was hired that makes a lot of sense. SA may not be the one who gets us to the top of the top, but I think he’ll be instrumental in setting the table.

  • Jeff D

    Dec 6, 2007 at 9:53 PM

    Comment #20

    When BSA has had some more time and money, to at least try and turn Newcastle into a major footballing force. The same sort of time,and money afforded to Fergie, and the frenchman then we can start to whinge if it dosen’t work out.
    Its time to admit that Newcastles problems are at the root,and sacking the man at the top at every trying time dosen’t get to the problem. It just makes it worse. For now maybe its best to grin and bear the season we’re having. i never thought we we’re going to do anything fantastic anyway. At best i hoped we’d sneek a uefa spot.
    Unfortunately we aren’t good enough for that. After the January and August transfer windows we might have the players to match our ambition. For now the word is.

  • steve

    Dec 6, 2007 at 10:00 PM

    Comment #21

    jeez – one decent display and we’re sucking him off – let’s see where we are in jan, still reckon we need to get 8-10 points out of next 4 games for Sam to be safe

  • Rob

    Dec 6, 2007 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #22

    Funny how the defence plays well when we play most of the game in the oppositions half!

    The top teams defence’s are good because they dont have to deal with too much pressure and so they would eventually make mistakes.

    We will never have a defence that can sit back for 90 minutes and not conceed, like we tried to do in many of our defeats this year.

    best form of defence is playing the game in the other half of the yesterday

  • ToonKing

    Dec 6, 2007 at 10:59 PM

    Comment #23

    watch Mick Dennis in the Papers Review talking about Sam. He talks sense and says what most of us are saying. Let’s hope the next games will go our way and he can take us to glory in coming years.,20285,12606_2949299,00.html


  • valle

    Dec 6, 2007 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #24

    Just wanted to teach all u quick fix junkies a little history lesson, lets have a look at Sir Alex Ferguson, who many of u compare Sam to, when u point out that he isnt of the right material to be a top dog.

    In his first season, Manchester United finished 11th, even tho they had players such as Bryan Robson on their books. 3 years later and still no throphy at “the sleeping giant” and things where looking dark. In September 1989, Manchester United suffered a humiliating 5–1 away defeat against neighbours Manchester City. Things did not improve during the rest of the 1989, and in November a banner declaring “Three years of excuses and it’s still crap. Ta ra Fergie.” was displayed at Old Trafford, and many journalists and supporters called for Ferguson to be sacked. United went on a run of six defeats and two draws in eight games and Ferguson later described December 1989 as “the darkest period he had ever suffered in the game.”. They didnt win the league untill the 92-93 season, 7 years since 86 when he was appointed and the rest as they say are history… Now, i hope allot of the impatient ppl actually read this and have a long good look at themselves, cause if we are ever going to get anywhere we need a 10 year plan and allot of backing.

  • Bren

    Dec 7, 2007 at 12:16 AM

    Comment #25

    I’m not convinced about Allardyce, but I’m glad he’s given himself time. It all comes down to Ashley in the end. If he wants to run the club sensibly, spend 15 million a year (like Shepherd did) and aim for a UEFA place, he may as well stick with Allardyce. However, if he’s going to spend like Thaksin at Man City and aim for the title, he may want to bring in someone better. If we do get rid of Allardyce, I’d rather it was like when Ranieri was replaced at Chelsea, where the man and the timing was at the club’s choosing.
    I do worry that Shearer is something that HAS to happen at the club, an itch we have to scratch, almost to get it out of our system. There’s no guarantee he’ll do well. I’m sure he’ll bring in good coaches and motivate certain players, but I always remember Alex Ferguson’s Good Luck card to Brian Kidd saying simply “Buy well”. There’s no guarantee that Shearer can spot and develop a good player.

  • Greg

    Dec 7, 2007 at 1:28 AM

    Comment #26

    Well pointed out valle.
    patience is what is needed here, it can be very frustrating to watch our team lose but if they play like they did against blackburn and arsenal and lose its alot easier to swallow.

  • Tripp

    Dec 7, 2007 at 5:19 AM

    Comment #27

    ToonKing, Thanks for the link. That’s a good piece by Denis and I agree with it completely.

    What the hell does Ta ra mean? How do you pronounce it (like Tah-rah)? Just curious. Love the English slang, it’s often very different to what we’ve got here in the states.

    I think Allardyce needs at least two full seasons. He was very restricted in the summer due to the shambolic state of NUFC’s finances (thanks to FFS). I think he still managed to do pretty well. Considering the massive shake up (new owner, spurious finances, new manager, loads of new players, new chairman) at the club, I think we’re doing OK. If we’re still shite two years from now it might be time to look around. Until then I think sacking the manager would only increase the club’s problems. Who the hell would want to manage a club that sacks their man every time the fans get stroppy?

  • briss

    Dec 7, 2007 at 6:44 AM

    Comment #28

    sam is the man. he needs more time to prove his ways, I know we will make UEFA cup whether it be intertoto or not but as long as we make top eight we have to stick with him and form some stability at this club. i think in 2 years we wil be top 4 under BSA and that is a very good target fot the TOON. HAWAY THA LADS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • doby the mag

    Dec 7, 2007 at 7:48 AM

    Comment #29

    Tripp – “ta-ra” means goodbye!! Or I think the meaning in the banner was more likely to be f**k off!

  • Macas

    Dec 7, 2007 at 8:26 AM

    Comment #30

    Just because Feguson turned Man U into a top premeiership side after years of rubbish doesnt mean that every under performing manager will do the same. Sam’s ‘tactics’ have in general been woeful this season, so for me the jury is still out.

  • SGToon

    Dec 7, 2007 at 8:39 AM

    Comment #31

    I believe we should back our current manager, whoever it may be.

    I’ve seen comments here that we should have the likes of mourinhos, fergusons,wengers and such. Even they have slip ups and when that happens…should we jeer them of and ask for his head?

    Give Big Sam a season or 3. Cos they way he trained is really revolutionary..speaking from a sports physiologist’s view.

    I think the players are getting used to the regime and thus showing lacklustre erformance. Once they are used to it and their bodies adapts to the regime….we’ll fly…that’s how our bodies works…naturally.

  • Rob Kirton

    Dec 7, 2007 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #32

    Giving managers time is fair enough if they are going to take you in the right direction. I am sorry to say that talk of 5 – 10 years is nonsense when you have the right guy.

    Starting from a very low base, inheriting far worse situation than Sam did

    Keegan – 2 full years to make us top five in the prem. (from 1 division down)
    Bobby Robson – 2 full years to kame us top five in the prem. (from rock bottom of the prem)

    Neither were flash in the pan 1 season wonders.

    The trick is to get there quick and make it last for 5 – 10 seasons.

    It is easy to quote Alex Ferguson, however he had a proven track record. He had made Aberdeen Double winners in scotland as well as winning a European trophy with them. If Sam Allardyce had achieved that with Bolton I would have been impressed. That would have been as impresssive as Fergies breaking the big two stranglehold in Scotland.

    Sam Allardyce is no Alex Fergusson, or Brian Clough for that matter, possibly a better comparison given nature of the clubs he has managed.

    We may not have been able to atract anybody better than Sam when making the last appointment. As a previous poster said, he may have been ideal due to his ability to work with limited funds

    To say Sam is a top manager is plainly wrong. Given time, he may turn out that way with us. The only way he will be given time to prove himself is to take us forward and earn the right to do that.

  • Southside Jordy

    Dec 7, 2007 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #33

    Valle – You so f-ing right and i’m totally on your side! Big Sam is the right man for this joba nd he will bring joy to SJP………we just need to give him support and see the rebuild through!!

    People need to back up and give the manager and the team some room coz we must be the most demanding supporters in the world and it’s doing nowt for the club apart from added extra unwanted perssure!!!


  • Bill F

    Dec 7, 2007 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #34

    Whilst Valle does make a good point, I feel that the world of football has changed in as much that the owners of teams now are generally less tolerant of failure. I would suspect that if Ferguson was in the same position now as he was then, he would be counting out his pay-off money and looking for another job.

    He could have been just another wannabe manager.

    I would have to agree that if Sams team selections are still struggling after the xmas turnaround then he may easily be looking for another job. Whatever qualities I or anyone else thinks he may have.

    It’s reality rather than sentimism that rules with the chairman I’m afraid chaps.

  • steve

    Dec 7, 2007 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #35

    @Valle – you should get put your history into perspective

    Fergie took over from Ron Atkinson when they were stuck in the bottom 4 of the league and guided them to 11th without buying any players.

    In his first full season, Ferguson guided United to a League runners-up position

    He then struggled with an entertaining but under-performing team and could only follow up with an 11th place the following season.
    In his 3rd season the fans were calling for his head and was apparantly one game from the sack whilst manure sat in 13th place – his saving grace was beating Notts Forest and going on to win the FA Cup.

    The following season they won the cup winners cup and the rest as they say is history.

    Lets face it, football has changed massively since those days and fergie would never have lasted past his 33rd season these days.

    So for Sam to follow Fergies example he should be getting us in the top six this season and winning the league next season with the FA Cup and Champs league following that.

    Reality is that he’s not improved anything as yet and has admitted to panic buying, oneand a half commited games don’t change that.

    However I don’t condone sacking him as I don’t believe we can attract a top flight manager.
    I also don’t think Ashley wants to pay him and his staff off then spend yet more millions on replacing him. Ashley is in financial trouble with Sports Direct and the rest of his firms and is unlikley to loosen the purse strings enough for a new manager to spend as he’d like

  • Eamonn

    Dec 7, 2007 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #36

    Valle, I totally agree with you. We gotta give BSA the time to build his team from scratch and the comparison with Man U in the late 80’s is worthwhile. Speaking of season 88-89, apart from Hillsborough, and the Toon getting relegated, who can remember which side beat the Champions (Arsenal) both home & away that year? You’d never guess!

  • Rob Kirton

    Dec 7, 2007 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #37

    steve : Ashley is rolling in it. Although his remaining sharehoding in Sports Direct has fallen a lot in value, he trousered £950 million in hard cash from the 50% he sold off prior to float. He’s hardly made a dent in that in buying our club. Having said that I wouldn’t want to blow all of my cash on NUFC, given our track record !!!

  • valle

    Dec 7, 2007 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #38

    It was different days… true, but that dosnt mean that we cant learn from history… As i have said a million times, Bobby also strugled in his first 2 seasons, and dont give me anything about entertaining, if anything it was nerve wrecking.
    There where 2 points:
    1st… Success dosnt come to a club that havnt had any for 50 years overnight, and to totally change the way a team have been going about things, it needs to get worse before it can get better.
    2nd… When ppl draw comparisons to other great managers, it serves well to remember just how those managers started out, thats where the history lesson came in.

    Steve: They where runners up in his second season, but the point was that the fans where calling for his head the season after that one (Short memories they had). Kinda like all was well and rosy for us when we had the best start for 10 years to a season unders Sam, till the first bump in the road comes along and suddenly ppl panic (same thing, to a lesser extent.).

  • steve

    Dec 7, 2007 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #39

    Robson & Keegan went from rock bottom and improved the team instantly thereby staving off relegation – Sam took over a mid table club and hasn’t improved yet.

    I don’t want Sam to get the sack, I want him to improve us and take us forward – as mentioned football is a different beast these days and I fear that if results aren’t going our way by Jan we’ll prob have joined the relegation candidates down the bottom and he’ll be sacked for sure.

  • steve

    Dec 7, 2007 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #40

    Souness had a better managerial record than Allardyce as did Daglish, I didn’t hear anyone saying give them time. Roeder saved us from a similiar spot in his first season – did we give him time to rebuild
    Gullit wanted to reshape the team to take us forward – did we give him time

    Lets just support the team through thick and thin (mostly thin at the mo 🙂 We should just enjoy the glory we almost once had under keegan and Sir Bob and hope that Sam can turn it around


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