Good Things Ahead For Newcastle

Sam Allardyce has talked again about yesterday’s game against Birmingham City, and is now saying he thinks the team is finally starting to gel.


Charles N’Zogbia – 21 year-old had another excellent game for Newcastle yesterday

While yesterday’s performance did not hit the highs of Wednesday’s game against league leaders Arsenal, the team still fought tooth and nail; and their urgency to get all 3 points was there for all to see against a good-looking Birmingham City side.

Sam said:

“They’re starting to get to know each other,” “Charles N’Zogbia linking up was important, but James Milner is a well-established Premier League player at 21 and can only go on from here.”

“Joey Barton is coming to fruition and he has played three games this week for the first team this season and has not looked fatigued.”

“Alan Smith up front and Steven Taylor at the back are doing well, and the players are starting to get to know each other.”

“The players are now giving of their best on a regular basis.” “It is a really, really big three points. Nothing else really mattered today but three points and we got them.”

“We have worked very, very hard over the last seven days – Blackburn and then Arsenal and now Birmingham – and now finally got what we deserved.

“Birmingham, for us, is a winnable game. It would have been a huge disappointment had we not won this game.”

Newcastle in truth have done very well in their last 3 games and 4 points is probably a fair return. But we can do a lot better, and Sam knows that. There are signs that the defense is becoming better and more solid, even though we gave away another silly goal yesterday.

Once we can solidify the defense we should be that much more difficult to beat. While we don’t want to get carried away with a single result, there are definite signs over the last 3 games that things are about to get a lot better for Newcastle United. We sure hope so.

Comments welcome.

31 comments so far

  • Indian toon

    Dec 9, 2007 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #1

    we need to stop conceding early stupid goals. eventhough it fires us up it still puts us back. then we have to double the effort and score twice as many to win the games. its about time we keep clean sheets.

  • Micky Toon

    Dec 9, 2007 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #2

    What we also need to do is to stop playing like Bolton.
    We have the players with the talent to pass the ball around. We have some top class midfielders, so why keep bypassing them?

  • steve

    Dec 9, 2007 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #3

    @MickyToon – As Lawrenson said on MOTD last night – watching Newcastle is exactly like watching Bolton.
    I totally agree – they highlighted what we already know and was pointed out in the times last week – our long ball success rate is abysmal and our short pass success rate is poor – we really need to keep it on the ground but need to work on our passing (especially Butt & Rozy) with the players we have

  • t-g-w

    Dec 9, 2007 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #4

    Interestingly, one of the greatest things about Sir Bobby’s team a few years ago was our ability to go behind but come back and win. We’re beginning to show that sort of charcter which stands us in good stead. It would be nice to lead games from the beginning but that isn’t always possible in this crazy game called football.

  • izannisimo

    Dec 9, 2007 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #5

    is it jus me or dat rozenhal shuffle is not the way to defend in the premier league. ie. bramble bop

  • ToonKing

    Dec 9, 2007 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #6

    Lawrenson is a mug and MOTD is a disgrace every time they talk about us, even the “legend” Shearer is really unfair to us.

    We are nothing like Bolton and if Lawrenson or anybody else would take the bother and look it up one would see that that we are using fewer long balls than last season and our possession has been greatly improved over the last 3 games.

  • wsq

    Dec 9, 2007 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #7

    we are still crap.. look at what middlesbro is doing at arsenal..

  • Hadrian

    Dec 9, 2007 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #8

    boro kicking arsenals arse , puts things in a different perspective .
    i think if we sort the defence out things will get better , but how many times have we said that? i dont feel right singling out our new signings , but there making far to many mistakes, tayls and faye would be my choice, we need to go back in the market for a great CB.
    they crucified us on MOTD last night , was a total wind up and lawro really doesnt like us newcastle supporters does he , makes you wonder how they can have such an obvious bias on public funded channel.
    alot of these media types cant distinguish between freddy sheperds wrongdoings and ours .
    back to boro, there stadiums half empty and there beating arsenal as things stand , this is what sets the toon apart.

  • heads23552

    Dec 9, 2007 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #9

    What is all this talk about playing like Bolton, I think toon fans are totally hung up on comparing with the so called long ball tactics.
    Here is a question-
    Would we all accept this-
    year1 11th
    year2 8th
    year 3 6th
    year4 4th
    year4 1st
    If you do, get off the mangers back, have patience.

  • heads23552

    Dec 9, 2007 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #10

    year 5 1st

  • Dragoner

    Dec 9, 2007 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #11

    people on here are so dumb sometimes. saying “look at what middlesbrough are doing to arsenal blah blah blah”. They are simply reaping the rewards of OUR hard work on wednesday. we worked arsenal well that day and they are tired because of it. You could see this in the match. If Middlesbrough played Arsenal first it may have been a different story. Stop putting the rest of us supporters down with your negative talk people.

  • Ryan

    Dec 9, 2007 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #12

    Ya, this is why players are full 0f pressure with the fans like you. no offense~

  • scott 9

    Dec 9, 2007 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #13

    when we get cacapa faye owen duff back and get a couple in january like edmilson arshevin rb to cover beye for african cup(cause carrs shit) we will be a totla different team and start to play better football duff deliver to the strikers is exellent witch means owen and viduka will score more goals especially if we get arshevin aswell and edmilson in dmf he will protect the back four get stuck in but can also pass and is a ver good footballer

  • Craig Allen

    Dec 9, 2007 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #14

    Nothings bankable in football.

    Just because Team A beats Team B and we beat Team A, doesn’t mean we will obviosuly (or have to easily) beat Team B.

    This is real life here not fantasy league. Too many factors to take into consideration in the real world than form books, history and apple orange comparisons.

  • Craig Allen

    Dec 9, 2007 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #15

    btw: watching the bburn wham match and still split on whether I want a 0 -0 draw or a hammer win.

    wham win, they go above us on GD.

    bburn win, they go further ahead.

    Draw sees wham still be below us but bburn move 5 away and . Ah it’s a lose lose situation 😀

  • Ross

    Dec 9, 2007 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #16

    i agree scott 9, hopefully when duff comes back, he’ll go straight to the left wing, meaning milner can go back to the right. i’d keep zog’s at left back, he’s seemed to adapt to the position well, and is still a huge threat coming forward as we saw yesterday.
    also agree that edmilson should be baught regardless of what other people think. one of the most experienced players in the world atm cant be a bad buy for the youngsters at newcastle like.
    also like to see arshavin. the fact he came out and publicly said he’d be interested should be we approach him makes me think we need to do so asap, hopefully we already have. from what i’ve seen of him, he’s a very good player and would work well for us.
    as far as the borough game goes, bbcsport credited us and villa for the performances we put in against them, and said arsenal were clearly still feeling the effects.
    however, dont beat the league leaders unless you play well, so well done to them.

  • valle

    Dec 9, 2007 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #17

    We need a proven EPL central defender and a proven EPL left back… Something in the line of Bridge and Brown if possible.

  • ObaFan2

    Dec 9, 2007 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #18

    Wasn’t that Loro Twta a defensive coach at NUFC…. and as bad as that as he is on the tv ……. can’t even say “moment” properly lol always say “merment” lmao

  • ToonKing

    Dec 9, 2007 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #19

    yeah he was for a short while and i can’t comprehend why Shearer and Lawro undermine Newcastle every time on MOTD no matter the result or quality of play.

  • Leo

    Dec 9, 2007 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #20

    still think geremi and butt arnt good enough for newcastle.

  • Macas

    Dec 9, 2007 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #21

    Shearer and Lawro simply tell it how it is. Unfortunately most fans dont want to accept the harsh reality that we aren’t playing very well!!
    If anyone watching the Birmingham game thinks we are going places then they are living in cloud cuckoo land. Arsenal were poor on Wed against us but we still kept N’Zogbia at left back and didnt try and attack them with two wingers when they were there for the taking, something proved by Boro today. Crap football and crap tactics is what Big Sam has to offer us.

  • wsq

    Dec 9, 2007 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #22

    macas, i wanted to say something along those lines as well.. i wanted to include “reality, indenial, in actual fact, crap, doesn’t mean negativity” those words.. ok lets say boro did reap benefits of us, doesn’t mean we’re not crap. We are still crap period.

    But no denying the last two results are good.

    Though I also don’t deny that some pro impartial pundits sometimes don’t know what they’re talking about most of the time when it comes to newcastle.

  • Rob Kirton

    Dec 9, 2007 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #23

    Macas: Can’t help buit agree with your sentiments. I think we have a lot of people here who for a variety of reasons follow the football from some distance. Maybe also reading the match stats.

    The likes of yesterdays performance should see us clear of relegation, though nothing more.

    To see Birmingham comprehensively out-think us for 30 minutes in the first half and for almost all of the second, admittedley without creating a great deal – is very worrying. The highlights on MOTD last night greatly flattered us.

    Overall our recent set of results is still no better than relegation fodder. Hopefully the next few games should put things right. However yesterday was papering over the cracks in a far less convincing manner than earlier in the season.

    Maybe these last 4 points will give the team some more self confidence. I realy hope that is the case. If so – we could manage to hang on to a mid table place.

    Mark Lawrenson is a Tw@t, however if anybody thinks Shearer was not calling it how he saw it, as indeed did many of the relived fans at yesterday’s game – then they need to think again

  • Obafan

    Dec 9, 2007 at 7:11 PM

    Comment #24

    Okay we got a fantastic 2-1 victory yesterday, but apart from the last 20-25 minutes of the 1st half, we didn’t play that good.

    We have got the players to pass the ball from feet to feet over the ground and we need to stop kicking the long ball. SA is a coach who had lots of success at Bolton with his long ball tactics but he needs to learn that it also is possible to play over the ground. I think a lot will depend on who comes in and who goes out in January to se if he will be able to chance his tactics and the he has to choose for a tactic in which NUFC plays at their best. ATM I give him the benefit of the doubt.

    These would be my favourtie transfers;
    IN: Arschavin, Carvalho, Edmilson, Sorin, Anelka (who prob will go to Chelski)
    OUT: Ameobi, Babayaro, Carr

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 9, 2007 at 7:25 PM

    Comment #25

    why would you want sorin?!? we need a winger with flair also, juan pablo pino please.

  • Ashton

    Dec 9, 2007 at 8:48 PM

    Comment #26

    We need a CB in jan some one like Garay or Barzagli or mybe Naldo he is very very good in air

    and please fat sam don’t sign with the likes of Ben him or Brown because they are crap and they are simply not good enough for newcastle united

    it’s time to spend decent money on decent players

    so splash the cash ashly you greedy bastard where is the” super star ” that you promised us to sign with you !

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 9, 2007 at 8:54 PM

    Comment #27

    barzagli, now thats a good defender not this ben-haim tosh, dont like naldo bit sketchy but is good on his day.

  • SGToon

    Dec 10, 2007 at 6:48 AM

    Comment #28

    I’d would agree with Dragoner.. Boro got the win simply because our team tire them out and the FANS hackled them. Arsenal are feeling the heat after our game because they found out that they are not that invisible.

    We just need to get behind the team..and everything will go on smooth.

    My local sports channel have been playing EPL/FA Classic Games..and I’ve been watching how our team played..I could only see 1 difference…the FANS. They were much vocal albeit standing under the rain and gets behind the team…we should recapture that essence. Then our players wil be more relaxed and will improve in their play. A happy player makes a great player.All in the psychology.

  • Craig Allen

    Dec 10, 2007 at 7:49 AM

    Comment #29

    A little bit of Devils Advocate: As a manager, Sam’s gonna play to his strengths. And why would he not? It’s his head on the line if things go wrong. Better things go wrong doing something he’s familiar/experienced with than adopting another manager’s style and take the rap for that if things go wrong. He’s said it many times in the press. He’s gonna stick to his guns until he achieves success or the calls for his head drain out the ones calling for more time. The senior players found that out when they approached him after the ‘pool game. Agree, though that the fans are a bit frazzled lately and are quick to vent their frustrations. But I, myself would like to see the guys give their all every game. Take shots (put in some effort) – link up with each other and play with heart. Get in there. That’s it. If they play like that and still lose – I’d give the players a standing ov at the end of every 90 mins. I might be the only one standing tho’ but so be it. 🙂

  • Micky Toon

    Dec 10, 2007 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #30

    It’s obvious the Arsenal foreign contingent don’t like the cold. Why else would ‘boro beat them?
    We are technically very poor at the moment. The team spirit is getting there, but isn’t quite 100%. How crap must our defence be to be playing the Zog at left back? He’s wasted there just like when Ginola was asked to defend. This type of player needs to be given room to express them self, not be expected to put in crunching tackles. The only two things that make me smile about are defence are Steven Taylor and Titus Bramble. To see him doing for Wigan, exactly what he used to do for us always brings a smile to my face.
    I really hope that once we have everyone back and fit that we start to play some decent football, but I doubt it. Anyone who thinks we can still compete against teams like ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool is living in a Keegan era dream world.

  • stjames

    Dec 10, 2007 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #31

    For a club like Newcastle the goal must be to compete up front. Most clubs can’t do that. They lack the finance. But we can and should be doing that. Remember Chelsea didn’t belong to the big four until quite recently with the Abramowich billions. Now we have our own billionaire with long term intentiona it seems.

    🙂 🙂 🙂


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