Does Sam Have Any Money For January?


Aston Villa are said today to be ready to launch a £10M double swoop for Barcelona striker Eidur Gudjohnsen and Arsenal’s young defender Justin Hoyte, who was on loan at Sunderland last season.

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Justin Hoyte – target for Aston Villa?

Former Chelsea star Gudjohnsen was linked with a potential move to Newcastle during the summer, but there is now news that Big Sam doesn’t have much money to spend in January.

It will be disappointing if Newcastle miss out on good players who are available in the upcoming window. We have to think that if they are available, the money would be forthcoming. But they would have to be the right players. A case in point is surely Gudjohnsen, if a good deal could be made with Barcelona, say for around £6M.

It will be worrying if we can’t add one or two top players to the squad in January, to at least help us with this season’s push up the league. It could be the difference between qualifying for Europe and missing out again. And we all know there’s a lot of money at stake in Europe, if money id the issue. That’s one reason we believe money will not be held back by this new Newcastle management.

What do you think? Should be buying a couple of good first team starters in January, if they are available?

Let us know – comments very welcome.



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45 comments so far

  • Kash2

    Dec 20, 2007 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #1

    I disagree Ed, I think £100k a week and £6m is a lot of money and far too much for Gudjohnsen. I’d rather we bought some younger players and give them a crack. For example, Altidore looks to be an interesting prospect, IMO a gamble on him is a better bet than throwing money at Gudjohnsen! Fred is also a far better player than Gudjohnsen for the money and age!

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  • Alex Brett

    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #2

    Well it looks like we are being linked with quite a few youngsters which is good, and Hoyte falls into that catogery, with Beye leaving and Carr too unreliable then this would make perfect sense, i still feel we need that cutting edge in midfield to link the play!! Thats what we are seriously lacking at the minute!!

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  • Ausgeordie

    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #3

    F**k yeah

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  • Adam B

    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #4

    hoyte would be a perfect signing. he is young and already has prem experience. He can play LB and RB and would replace Beye in a year or two.

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  • toonoholic

    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #5

    its simple..
    no money for jan.
    lets not get those hopes too high

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  • mark

    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #6

    Beye is only 29 and can play for at least 3 years, Adam.

    Hoyte is a decent enough prospect for around £2m, but I feel a creative player, if only we could get Deco but that wont happen, and Ive now got my doubts towards the fellows attitude. We need somebody to slice the oppositions defence open.

    Duff and Milner on the wings, with Barton holding and either Emre and a new signing driving the team forward, Emre is a good player but sometimes looks lost.

    A more consistent, Van der Vaart type player, as we wont get him either.

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  • mark

    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #7

    By the way, who said no money was available? theres no quotes for ashley or mort or even allardyce saying the exact words “We have no money” I remember BSA saying “Im not sure how much we will have”

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  • wiinds

    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #8

    Sam hinted that there is no money for him at Jan

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  • aaron d

    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #9

    Hoyte would be a good back-up for RB/LB but if he moves it will be for first team football otherwise i’d stay at Arsenal if i was him. Do think we need a couple or 3 players in, as Big Sam as already said, thats hopefully doesn’t include Ben Tozer. Maybe sell Ameobi apparently the Smoggies are interested, Carr surely someone would want him. Think we need a RB possibly that can play CB (Wes Brown), RM that can play up front if need be (Arshavin) and a playermaker CM (Deco like). Think a loan deal for Diaby or Diarra from Arseanal would be good too.

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  • Rich

    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #10

    I dont understand why money is a problem, i agree we dont want to through money away like we have in the past, but Mort and Ashley claim they want us to reach the top level again and they must understand we need to spend some money to get there! It is all very well getting great youngsters in which im fully supoortive of but when quality players become available at the right prices we cant let thenm pass by and move on to rival teams. For example Hoyte to Villa, Gudjohnsen to West Ham, Fred( A quality player at a good age) etc. We will be left trailing miles behind. Lets hope we do have some cash though a couple of signings and our squad will look promising! If we do need funds then Ameobi, Carr should get us a fiver!

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  • scott 9

    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #11

    hoyte signed a long term arsenal deal a couple of months ago we have no chance

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  • Marguerite

    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #12

    As I recollect Mort said there would be no new players coming in Jan other than young players, as we had brought 9 new players into the club in the summer and could not see where the introduction of more would in anyway help and that the new players needed time to blend / adjust to the premiership!!!!!!

    I remember thinking at the time, not what I want to hear, but does this show either no money to spend or not too much belief in Sam? I am still not sure what the thinking behind this is.

    However, if we could get some loan players in that would be fantastic as we are crying out for creativity/ pace. Also we desperately need cover in RB position

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  • Brisbane Mag

    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #13

    I believe BSA will be given money if the right player(s) becomes available, but will not be allowed to waste cash like previous managers….

    If Newcastle are to qualify for Europe they need minimum 3 class players to make the push up the league; i.e. Arshavin, Wes Brown, possibly even Eidur or Fred!

    We have a decent squad that will be in the top half of PL but not enough quality to qualify for Europe……

    We must buy top quality players to improve team now as well as the best youngsters for the future.

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  • stjames

    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #14

    We need young players who will be ready in 1-3 years and then we need young players who are ready this season or next season. With young players come ambition and enthusiasm which many older players seem to lack.

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  • Hadrian

    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #15

    he better bloody have money , if mort and co dont want to let him pull the pursestrings cos he wasnt there choice , then they shouldnt have stuck with him .
    we either back him or sack him , or end up going nowhere for the next few years again .

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  • Whumpie

    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #16

    I think in January we’re all going to get a lesson in what Mort and Ashley mean when they say “long-term plans”. We do have some gaps (most notably at LB) but we have to get away from the entrenched mindset of “buy your way up the league”, which we should know by now doesn’t work.
    Give it time and don’t expect too much this season.

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  • t-g-w

    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #17

    I think it’s essential we buy 1st team players in January because we HAVE to qualify for europe this season. I don’t think our current squad is good enough to do that. Once we’ve qualified for europe we will be moving in the right direction and can buy even better players in the summer.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #18

    Our current squad could and should easily get into the top 6

    Inabizzle have got to my belated christmas shopping, haven started 🙂

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  • Bill f

    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #19

    I think Hadrian has summed it up nicely, back him or sack him.

    I would bet on some signings and they are done deals.

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  • alex

    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #20

    Our current squad is not really good enough for top six – but i would say most of sams buys since he came to the club have not really been good enough. I think this season is about stabising the club on and off the field and don’t really expect europe. In Jan you can only buy players if the clubs are willing to sell – and not many clubs sell good players in Jan. Better to wait unless world class buys are available (but would they come anyway!!)

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  • Dragoner

    Dec 20, 2007 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #21

    Sams signings are good enough, but he just didn’t strengthen the team to what was required. He strengthened the defence with good players who now just need to settle in and continue to gel, but he didnt address our lack of creativity in the central park area. i mean, come on, he bought Barton who is a decent CM (not overly creative) and geremi who is a good DM and then plays him at RB and RW!?! we need to buy an Attacking midfielder, we dont have a single attacking midfielder at the club, that is just embarrassing. There is no one to link up with the strikers

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  • Ashton

    Dec 20, 2007 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #22

    F%&k Mike ashley he is another greedy pig like Shepherd
    all english owner are stingy bastards
    we need a foreign owner
    at least they are not greedy as english once

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  • alex

    Dec 20, 2007 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #23

    Ashton – greedy pig?? Do you know how much debt ashley has taken on??

    You do not know what you’re talking about.

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  • Alex Brett

    Dec 20, 2007 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #24

    Ashley wont be greedy, he bought us to make us the best and thats exactly what he will do!!

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  • Whumpie

    Dec 20, 2007 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #25

    Ashton, you just don’t like rich people. He’s taken on a huge debt, already steadied the ship and is doing what you’ll never see other owners do: getting in with the lads and having a proper laugh with it. So far, I couldn’t have wished for a better new owner.

    Best of all, along with Mort, he’s had the bottle to stand up to the whining boo-boys and stick to his long-term game plan. Good on him. If he keeps his dosh folded in January I’ll have some faith that there is a good reason for it. But if Matt Taylor is available, that’d be nice…

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  • Whumpie

    Dec 20, 2007 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #26

    One more thing,Ashton: if you’d rather have some dodgy plutocrat with a thinly veiled history of corruption, human rights abuse and murder (which pretty much sums up at least 2 foreign EPL owners) than an Englishman who made his money through clever thinking and hard graft, then I don’t know where your head’s at, man. Gerrout to Russia or Thailand if you like them more.

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  • Howie

    Dec 20, 2007 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #27

    exactly whumpie that guy at man city could be arrested and then where would they be. give mike ashley a chance. never compare any1 to that bloody shepherd

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 20, 2007 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #28

    g

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  • iain

    Dec 20, 2007 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #29

    the problem is if we dont spend in janauary we could struggle second half of the season, especially of owen crocks himself whilst oba is away.

    also the problem is if sam isnt the man ashley wants/or hes being assesed over a season before ashley entrusts him with any real cash.

    we could get left a long way behind the likes of villa and everton if they spend and it will only cost even more to catch them up in the summer.

    as the few quality pl exp players like gudjohnsen will have one to someone like west ham, or villa and we will be stuck either paying over the top for pl players or gambling on foreign players.

    the only solution imo is to buy youngsters. but they have to be real quality not just players to fill gaps in the reserve team.

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  • iain

    Dec 20, 2007 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #30

    david bentley should be signed as soon as possible if we can get him. in january imo there will be less clubs after him and we would have a better chance of getting him.

    hes young/pl experienced and exactly what we need in mf.

    there are a few quality pl exp players that could be available and if we have to pay to get them in jan then imo we should.

    gudjohnsen/bentley/brown and a young cm from the championship as back up (soares/watson) would be excellent business for jan and imo would even mean we wouldnt need to spend that much in the summer maybe just a left back and a replacment for owen/emre should they leave.

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  • iain

    Dec 20, 2007 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #31

    its all well and good signing kids but good kids will want to come and play with players like geremi ???

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  • iain

    Dec 20, 2007 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #32

    its all well and good signing kids but what good kids will want to come and play with players like geremi ???

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  • Hadji

    Dec 20, 2007 at 5:53 PM

    Comment #33

    If we want Europe in the next season we need top spend this January.
    13 mill at least
    Cardozo_6 mill
    Arshavin_7 mill

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  • Hadji

    Dec 20, 2007 at 5:53 PM

    Comment #34

    *to*

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  • dragoner

    Dec 20, 2007 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #35

    Some people on here haven’t got a clue, Geremi is a GOOD player, he just hasn’t shown us the form he is capable of yet. AND he is constantly played out of position, his best position is DM but old man Butt keeps getting that spot. Give Geremi time, his pedigree is good so he deserves at least a season two get used to life at the toon

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  • iain

    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #36

    dragoner, geremi WAS a good player.

    get used to the, hes supposed to have been signed for his experience at handling situations like the current oneat nufc.

    at the moment he drags the team down with woefull performances that make me cringe. its like watching amdy faye all over again accept this time the useless lump that is our cm is taking freekicks and wasting possesion with long throws.

    i sit in level 7 and i can see the body language in most players is bad when geremi trots over to waste another setpiece. thank god he aint on penalties or we might be 4 points worse off and sam could be out of a job.

    if hes so good at setpiecs and there to take responibility for the team he should take penalties. sam cant have it both ways, if he leaves pens to the most confident guy then surely the same should apply to freekicks.

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  • iain

    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #37

    (get used to the pl ???) that should be above

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  • Leo

    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:17 PM

    Comment #38

    g

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  • iain

    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:18 PM

    Comment #39

    edit 2 – 6 points worse off.

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  • dragoner

    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #40

    Geremi isn’t bad at set pieces. In fact that is probably the only area where he is thoroughly underperforming this season. what do you mean “WAS”, he has a bad season after joining a new club with a new manager and new players and all of a sudden he is crap?? give me a break and learn to be patient. These are human beings not mahcines, they dont just slot in to place. When he starts performing better in his NATURAL position i bet you will change and be like “Geremi is really good for us blah blah blah” instant results are what you seek, the seat you have at st james is going to waste, give it to a more patient, realistic fan

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