Waddle Thinks Two Entertainers Will Fix Magpies’ Problems

Former Newcastle and England winger Chris Waddle thinks Sam Allardyce has an opportunity to take the heat off himself and the team by bringing in a couple of entertainers, or flair players, during the transfer window to excite the Geordie faithful. But we really don’t think it’s quite as simple as that.


Chris Waddle – two flair players is what is needed

Waddle told BBC Radio 5 Live yesterday after the game:

“The fans are frustrated because they like their entertaining football and the football now is not entertaining,” “When Kevin Keegan came back to the club he brought a lot of entertaining football and the fans thoroughly enjoyed what they were seeing.”

“Now the football is not entertaining. They have not got creative players. On the whole they have not got players who entertain the crowd and the football is very direct at times.”

“The fans will stick by them because they are so loyal to the club but I think it will be interesting in January if he (Allardyce) brings in a couple of flair players.” “He had flair players at Bolton – he had (Jay-Jay) Okocha, (Youri) Djorkaeff, (El-Hadji) Diouf, (Nicolas) Anelka – so he does like the flair players.”

“If he can get a couple of players like that, who can do the job on the pitch but can also entertain, it may buy more time.” “I think the fans are just waiting to see who he signs in January before they start banging the drum.”

We think Chris is rather simplifying things by saying a couple of flair players will cure the problems Newcastle have right now. That’s almost old world Newcastle – the fans are unhappy, let’s bring in a couple of star signings to keep them happy. Hopefully the club has moved on from that kind if thinking. That’s not to say Newcastle fans do not want to see free flowing football, because they do, and there’s no argument about that.

But one of the real problems Sam has are that his players are inconsistent and we never know which players will turn up. One thing Sam needs to do is to work out if some of that temperament is permanent in some players, and if so get them out of the club, probably in the summer. And we already have a lot of “flair” players at the club. Emre, Duff, Milner, N’Zogbia and others have a lot of flair and we don’t think that’s the major problem at Newcastle right now.

That’s not to say Big Sam will not bring in some skillful players during the January window and we think the Russian captain Andrei Arshavin is a good possibility. But let’s be clear that Sam still has lots of problems to solve with the players he has already brought into the club.

We also don’t know how willing Chairman Chris Mort will be to bring in players with no Premiership experience in January. We don’t think he will be too keen, quite honestly.

What do you think?

Let us know – comments welcome.

63 comments so far

  • carl

    Dec 27, 2007 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #1

    waddle knows shit, why would ashley give big sam money now?

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 27, 2007 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #2

    waddle, waddle off!

    but he is right arshavin and a creative manager wouldnt go a miss.

  • lezb

    Dec 27, 2007 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #3

    Money to Sam you must be joking the new owner is a self made man in business you dont make a success in business by throwing good money after bad.Unless the toon is just a hobby for him a bit of fun .Some how I dont think so, but I wish he would wear a shirt with anything but the name SMITH on the back.That makes me wonder a little about his judgement .

  • scott 9

    Dec 27, 2007 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #4

    i think we need someone like arshevin and maybe another flair player a cuople at the back and a dmf i think David Albelda would be a good signing for quite a small price

  • steve

    Dec 27, 2007 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #5

    Waddles stuck in the past – we want a decent footballing team who can consistently challenge for a top six spot. Sam doesn’t know his best starting 11 and has shown he’s not exactly great at spending money – Smith, Barton, Enrique, Rozenhal – the best he can do is get a couple of free transfers in and hope they gel – it’s beginning to look like Sammy Lee did more of the work at Bolton than we give him credit for, his downfall was that he tried to change the way they played after sam left.
    maybe sam has learnt from that and decided on defend and hoof it at all costs in the hope of a draw or last minute win ala fulham, brum
    Everyone is expecting defeats in every game in January, I reckon we’ll prob get a point or two which may be enough to save Sams job.

    I won’t be surprised at all if we end up in a relegation dogfight as we already look the worst side in prem – no spirit, no skill, no tactics, no defence and no f*ckin clue

    Can’t see Ashley & Mort giving any cash, he’ll have to do a Roeder and play kids who’ll prob play thier hearts out to be fair – although if he plays em in wrong positions then we are doomed

  • Toon Barmy

    Dec 27, 2007 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #6

    Arshavin is a top quality player maybe sam could make him in to a right back… you dont think he would play him in midfield do you? the rest of the team play out of position & dont shoot at goal and this isnt for the first time so why should a new signing make any difference… something is not right here it stinks.. he wants the cash for himself not players

  • wsq

    Dec 27, 2007 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #7

    bull shit.. another one who doesn’t know what he’s talking about!

  • Black Caesar

    Dec 27, 2007 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #8

    All the idiots, and yes i choose my words advisedly – IDIOTS, who kept backing Allardyce, saying give him more time, rome wasn’t built in a day etc, where are you now?

    Some people just do not comprehend football! Allardyce is a crap manager and he ll not make the grade – as simple as that!

    If you want to be challenging the top 4 – there is only one course open to you – choose a manager who will not be out of place with the top managers. I advocated Capello before he went to England, and even England, the national team recognises that no English manager is good enough, so why cant NUFC fans?

    You dont need to complain at all with this crap football being served. You wanted mediocrity, now you ve got it – LIVE WITH IT!

  • Toon Barmy

    Dec 27, 2007 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #9

    wsq ..Whats your positives so far this season?

  • ToonKing

    Dec 27, 2007 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #10

    Black Caesar the “idiots” who back Sam are still here. like me, i’m still saying he needs at least thi season. Although my belief in him is shaken we can not afford to sack him. For one there is no reasonable replacement and second consistency is the key. Do we want to continue the the Fat Freddy way even after he’s finally gone ??? we have to stop sacking managers, and that is a fact. Sam may not not be a world beating manager but he’s a proven builder and he needs he’s time, at least for now.

    oh and Black Caesar the idiot is you if you think that we have a squad that can challenge for top 4 or even top 6. that is the reality and the other side of the coin. Sam may be a poor manager but so are the majority of our players. Duff, Owen, Barton, Cacapa and Given and are the only ones of superior quality and even they are under performing.

  • mark

    Dec 27, 2007 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #11

    We need a creative player in the middle, thats a gaurantee, with Duff and Milner playing on the wings, and the right tactics, that should be attacking enough. Yesterday was absolute SHlTE.

  • Black Caesar

    Dec 27, 2007 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #12

    Our team at the moment is more than good enough to challenge for top 5 never mind top 6! No doubt!

    Name man for man all the players of the teams above us in the league, excluding the big 4, and i dare you to conclude that they have better players than NUFC – ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!

    TOON KING – you’ve always said Allardyce deserves 2 seasons, now you say 1 season. OK – after a couple of weeks you too will be clamouring for him to be sacked forthwith.

    You only give a manager time when he’s good enough and Allardyce simply isnt good enough – end of story – so sack him and get a top man to do the job!

  • Bryan

    Dec 27, 2007 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #13

    I have never been a fan of SA and I have stated this before. A lot of people dissagreed with my opinion, thats fine, football is all about opinions. Can anyone of the SA fan club see a light at the end of the tunnel. We think we had hit rock bottom against Portsmouth & Liverpool and then the Xmas period. Fulham, Derby & Wigan have to be the worst footballing performances I have seen in the last 30 years. We are totally devoid of any shape or pattern to our play, the tactics by SA all season have come straight from the 1st division. At times I realy think he is playing to get the sack and walk away with a massive pay off. I think he realises he is not up to the challenge of managering NUFC.
    As for Mort/Ashley giving him money in Jan, please, please keep your money in your pockets until the summer. Bring in a top top coach who can take this club back to where it belongs. I dont go along with the people who say (including Joey Barton) that the Keegan days are in the past and forget about the way we used to play under him. Why should we forget about those days, I for one what to see that style of play week in week out and until we get in a manager of the same opinion as most fans we will forever me a mid table side.
    Stop blaming the players Sam for your lack of tactical knowhow, pick an attacking side where everyone plays in their right possition and let the other team worry about us instead of picking a team worrying about them.

  • hanzemre

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #14

    win our hearts with good performances and run of good results. FFS Sam MUST go now…. He is a joke of the tyne. ..arghhhh

  • Toon Barmy

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #15

    Good shout Bryan.. Sam is now playing a dangerous game in blaming the players he’s lost the majority of fans – players now?.. Try playing them in their proper positions if they F@ck up then it is their fault, but he is watching a different game if he belives the tactics HE employs are working..
    I would be happy to give sam time – if the players were used correctly and we went to win games instead of defending in them. but think he wants out, he was freddies signing with no big club experiance maybe the job is to big for him or he wanted to work with fred £££££.
    the first thing you would do is try and get the fans onside why has there been a wedge between us and sam- does sam want the wedge?

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #16

    if i was a player id get an interview for a well respected pper and rebel apologising to the toon fans for not wanting to play for sam anymore but outlining your reasons which everyone know its sams fault.

  • ObaFan2

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #17

    I had been open minded ’bout BSA but I’m really sick of his pr. Blame everyone but yourself, I’d imagine politics would welcome you with open arms.

    IMO I think he’s getting found out, his signings during the summer seemed like good buys but we have taken a HUGE step (jump) backwards………. why ? O it must be the players then BSA.

    I said a few weeks ago that the run-up to the transfer window would be interesting and has proved so. Now lets see how much if any money he’s given and see if our newly adopted Geordie MA backs him with £££££££££££££’s.

  • Alex

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #18

    Toon King our squad have enough quality to be in the race for a uefa cup spot. The players you named do have enough quality but you left out Nzogbia,Viduka ,Beye ,Taylor and Emre.Point being although we are a long way off a cl side we are better than midtable if we had a trainer that played the players we have in their natural positions and allowed them to play attacking football with the ball on the ground.Sam still has not got it into his head that the squad that he has are not capable of playing his long ball tactics.Sam seems to have only 1 game plan in his head and every other team knows what to expect before kickoff.A good manager plays a game plan that suits the strengths of his players and not expect his players to adapt to his style of play and abandon their natural abilities and talent.Allardyce is showing himself to being a manager out of his depth at a big club that expect to be in the race for europe every season.

  • shirts

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #19

    I don’t like Sam’s style. Never did. But dumping him after less than a season is idiocy. That Instant Gratification addiction brought us… Souness. And Roeder. Support the team we have. Give Allarshite time to build a foundation. He’s a proven record. His experience will come through. It won’t be pretty, but we can shit-can him after a couple of seasons if there’s still not real improvement.

  • Bryan

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #20

    Toon Barmey – Good points.
    Lets be honest, our season is only going to get worse and worse. We are so lucky this season that there are a lot of teams that are going to struggle with us. I think 35 – 37 points will be enough to stay up this season. We should make that ok, just.
    Lets hope Mort/Ashley have a big name lined up in the summer, give SA until the end of the season and let him go back where he belongs, 1st division.

  • Dragoner

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #21

    Black Caeser i still back Sam Allardyce as he has only had 5 months and managers need time, you are not a manager and know nothing, you are just a fan like me, Sam Allardyce knows more about management than anyone on this blog so get real people.

  • Rob Kirton

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #22

    shirts: I’d take the view that it is wrong NOT to sack a manager when he is taking you in the wrong direction. I’m all for giving a manager a long run at the job – though only if it is the right guy. Allardyce will never be the right one.

    The next manager will (surprise – surpise) want money and build his own team – and in his own shape. Dont waste time – let that happen as quickly as possible.

    The only caveat, is that we should have the next manager lined up before Sam is paid off. I just hope that Chris Mort’s phone is ringing hot right now

  • Rob Kirton

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #23

    Dragoner: Sam doesn’t know more about management than others on this Blog. Maybe he does know more about football.

    I suspect Ed has carried out a number of very high profile management positions (lots of people – money and organisational skills needed). I’ve personally managed bigger teams (in terms of numbers) than Sam Allardyce – also running multi million pound projects.

    Its’ all about building a team and getting it to work well and most importantly getting results. Allardyce is clearly not doing that. On occasions I’ve been tasked with having to rescue bad situations and being made to turn them around in weeks / couple of months. OK it wasn’t football. I couldn’t do that. Unfortunately neither can Sam.

    Also if one of Mike Ashleys shop managers (paid a lot less than Sam) couldn’t turn around their branch performance – I’m sure he’d soon sort out that situation

  • Dragoner

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #24

    Rob…You are in no position to say what sam can and can’t do, he has only had 5 months. God!

  • Bill f

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #25

    I totally agree with Chris, a trip to Billy Smarts Circus is where we can find the man for the job to sort out the team problems.

    Sending out the players in clowns costumes would have the opposition helpless with laughter and make it easy for us.

    Oh sh*t just realised they are laughing their b*lls off already at us.

    Sorry Chris new plan needed.

  • Rob Kirton

    Dec 27, 2007 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #26

    Dragoner: Unfortunately we can all see what he has proved to be capable of. By the way in my field when working freelance, I’ve known people to be shown the door after a week / month because they couldn’t hack it.

    I recognise it is a different set of circumstances, however I defy you to find many who will say they have proof of Sam getting much right or making progress. I would expect to see some after 5 months.

    Check out some of his back room signings. I fell off my perch when I found we now had Vic Halom scouting for us. Check out his pedigree or even anybody who can remember his days as a player. Big imobile bugger who had to have a long ball hiked up to him in the vague hope of him getting near it. Remember he may be scouting for forwards if Owen / Oba / Duke get sick of this regime.

    I suspect a lot of players will be sick after Sams pronouncements laying the blame for our poor displays at their doorstep. No good manager – and I mean in any walk of life ever does that…….

  • john

    Dec 27, 2007 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #27

    what does waddle know about the toon hes a f**ing makkam

  • Hadrian

    Dec 27, 2007 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #28

    look ta tyhe players newcastle have churned out .
    waddle , gazza , beardsley , keegan , shearer , i could go on and on . but what links them all is pretty obvious to us geordies .
    we love a bit of flair cos thats how we churn them out in the north east .

  • stjames

    Dec 27, 2007 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #29

    Rob Kirton: Unfortunately you are so right. I have been waiting all season for some signs of improvement, some signs that Sam and his team is moving in the right direction. Once or twice I’d hope only to be raped the next weekend. It’s not happening with Sam. He has had the best chance any manager has had for a long long time. Time to prepare, backing from the club and support from the fans. But nothing!!! 🙁

  • Arsene Wenger

    Dec 27, 2007 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #30

    Hello Newcastle fans – I don’t like to say I told you so but I’ve had my run ins with Sam before, most of which were televised.
    I agree us managers need time but can hold my hand no my heart when I say Sam will bring you nothing but misery. He relys on his back room staff do all the actual coaching and takes no part other than telling the players to kick it long and foul the opposing players behind the referees back.

    I take no pleasure in watching him die a slow death please put him out of his misery and sack him as soon as possible in order you can continue to play in the premiership (albeit mid table)


    Dec 27, 2007 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #31

    with all due respect to the people on this site i feel that the problem is far more serious than the managers tactics . u people are far more experienced and had the pleasure of enjoying the keegan era i was just a child back then
    the problem started when mort did want settle on a plan he stated that fixing an aim would heap pressure on sam it cannot we must be clear cut on what we want to achieve and how much improvement we want to strive for.
    sam thinks that finishing 12th instead of last seasons 13th is also improvement he has thus taken the season for granted if thats what we want to achieve then we are on course in any business planning is the most important thing we have to be clear about our seasons objectives even if we sack him we must have a replacement lined up otherwise we will have a drama like what happened after sir bobbys sacking and end up with another souness
    btw anyone from india

  • lezb

    Dec 27, 2007 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #32

    If players and managment were paid on a results only basis then I,m sure as hell we would see a massive change in the type and way football is played.Problem with contracts today if you have a problem manager,player then you have a very expensive problem.If Sam thinks he is as good as he tells us he is let him change his present contract for a double your money contract BUT based only on results.Even with all his bluster and ego he would not be daft enough to go for that.He knows his place, just wish it was at some other club

  • jiM Baker

    Dec 27, 2007 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #33

    everyone on here backing Big Sam is either a Mackem or a flippin nut-case that is about as intelligent as the Monkey Nut that i’ve just ate!
    Same is not a proven manager, Bolton played shit football under him and acheived nowt!
    Sam is however a shockingly bad manager!
    Don’t give the big fat whinge bag any money in January…. sack him Mr Ashley and sack him NOW!
    Shearer in…. and don’t go leave comments along the lines of …. Shearers got no experience (bollocks to that) neither did Keegan.

  • Dragoner

    Dec 27, 2007 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #34

    Jim Baker
    “everyone on here backing Big Sam is either a Mackem or a flippin nut-case that is about as intelligent as the Monkey Nut that i’ve just ate!”

    Why dont you compare the comments of those backing big sam to those who are not, then you will see who lack intelligence..you your self are a shining example of what i am trying to say

  • jiM Baker

    Dec 27, 2007 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #35

    Dragoner….I will help you out here….
    What you are infact trying to say to everyone is that you’re not very bright, never mind though you’re not alone Big Sam isn’t either.

  • chuck

    Dec 27, 2007 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #36

    Sack him NOW before he does more damage.
    It should be obvious to everyone he is all spin,aint gotta clue and hey Mr Mort if you have`nt been looking at prospects to replace him ,you have been derilect in your role.

  • jiM Baker

    Dec 27, 2007 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #37

    Big Sam hasn’t got a clue….and that is quite frankly worryingly obvious!
    why would anyone persist in constantly playing people out of position? it makes no bloody sense.
    his team and player selection is utter rubbish.
    Harry Dunn from Byth Spartans could do a better job!

  • obafemimartins

    Dec 27, 2007 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #38

    We have lots of good midfield players milner, nzogbia etc but the defenders hoof the ball up the pitch and miss them out alltogether.
    we should get the ball down and play football. arsenal are the best example. even derby and wigan outclassed us because they pass the ball along the ground.it isnt rocket science

  • Black Caesar

    Dec 27, 2007 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #39

    Dragoner emmmmmmmm how long has Eriksson had at Man City and how well has he done?

    I rest my case.

  • Autibo

    Dec 27, 2007 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #40

    mort should certainly be looking at replacements now. i dont actually believe any newcastle fans genuinely feel that we will even come close to challenging the top 4 playing this kind of negative, dull, spoiling, ‘football’

    however i think we must be thinking outside the box with regard to who the new manager would be. thnakfully ashley/mort are intelligent enough to know its no good sacking him without a replacement lined up. and the replacement cannot be a 2nd/3rd/4th choice – he must be a proven winner. not shearer, as romantic as that would be, he needs to prove himself as a manager before taking on such a hard job. imagine if he was as sh!te manager, where would that leave his legacy?! how could we sack him?! my shortlist would include lippi, houllier, hiddink, van gaal, bilic and schuster (when madrid eventually sack him)

    anyone looking for positives about BSA, look at o’neill at villa – they’re doing ok after a distinctly average first year.


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