All the problems they have..eh, no, we’ve problems, ye Mr Grant, ye don’t.

So Grant no, that’s where your wrong, Given or the defenders blocked those chances, they worked bloody hard to do so. They deserved the point.

Just cause they’re a “Top” rich team doesn’t mean they deserve everything. So what they’ve a “depleted” side, please, they are one of, if not the richest club in the Premiership, they’ll get over it. You want depleted..look at us last year Mr. Grant.

Well, I’d love to carry this on all night but I’m not going to.

You’re a prick and I’m an idiot.

Anyway…..

Moving on and in response to shirts.

I am all for continuity.
I just dont think Sam is the man for Newcastle.
He may well be learning, I’d be astonished if he isn’t – but what’s he learning?
What he’s done thus far is show that he likes to play odd formations and play players A) out of position and B) play players who aren’t performing (probably due to A).

If Sam just stop f%cking around with the team and players and just said, “right, here’s what I think my best 11 is and we’re going to play 442, pass the ball on the ground where possible and really have a go at teams” I’d be his biggest supporter.

I’d love to give him time, but the more time he gets while he’s consistantly getting it wrong, means LESS time fore someone else, should Sam be sacked.

but in future here is a little tip for you. If you are going to act grown up then you should try to be a little more consistent with your comments.

earlier:

Edd
“Dragoner – Your a prick”

same day, but a little later:

Edd
“Dragoner – I wont get drawn into this name-calling (”sad, little boy” & “IDIOT”) nonesense with you as it’ll end up getting stupid, these things always do.”

see the problem? don’t try and act smart mate, its not becoming.

Dragoner // Dec 30, 2007 at 0:26

that made me laugh it really did. i was wondering why it was taking you so long to reply. You was asking your mum to type for you wasn’t you.

oh and heres another suggestion, if your sick of reading my comments……….dont read them. They will all be labelled Dragoner so that makes it nice and easy for you to notice. see it isn’t that hard now is it.

You can’t go round calling me an idiot, a sad little boy and a kid in the space of 15 minutes, then spout out that!!

Moreover, he’s here with a proven record of achieving more with less. (yes, modest achievement, but still achievement by their more modest standards.) Bolton were never very pleasant to watch, but they were effective. And the resources they had pale in comparison to ours.

Isn’t it possible that Fat Boring Sam is on a learning curve? Maybe he’s figuring out how to manage a real big club for the first time. And that takes some time.

We can’t succumb to the knee-jerk impulse to boot him in the arse and clean out the offices. St. James has had that sickness for too long, since Keegan bit the dust.

7 managers in 10 years is not a recipie for success.

Sam is not producing beautiful football. He is building the foundations.

I think his sides in the last few games have been somewhat more attack oriented. At Wigan it was dire and we lost–thanks to a spectacular, unstoppable free kick and a dull and determined Wigan side. Today it almost succeded, albeit against a half-powered Chelsea. We deserved a draw.

I don’t like Sam. But he needs more time. Not a nice thought, but seems true.

One other note–of the players you mentioned in your 4-4-2 paragraph, five of ‘em are Sam signings–Viduka, Faye, Beye, Cacapa and Enrique. I think it’s safe to say four of those five have been good. Cacapa had an awful game or two and Enrique’s still unproven. But these signings could work out in the end.

I agree about Smith, though. I don’t see him as useful, really.

As sick as it makes me to say it, Sam needs more time.

Trying to keep this discussion more adult like, I reject what you say entirely.

You miss my point.

You seem proud that today, we went to Chelsea and absorbed pressure, ‘like Man Utd’…

We didn’t do that at all. They attacked us and went 1-0 up through poor defending, again. (There was a hand-ball but it was more ball-to-hand). We were certainly set up to absorb, you’re right there, but this team is only capable of this to a certain extent, not like Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea are etc.

My point is, we should have gone there and set up for a win.

You see, we set up to stop them playing, that’s great if you can pull it off, FACTS show that we cant – so what was the point?
We couldn’t do it against Derby, Wigan – why would Chelsea be any different?

However, if we took a more, Keegan-like approach, and thought, “let’s really get at them today, Ben-Hiam and Alex ain’t played much together, their keeper is suspect”…….and so on.

We may well have still lost, but by crikey I bet we’d have had more than 3 shots at their goal.

That’s all I’m trying to say, we MUST be more positive, we MUST play to our strengths and we MUST get this through to Sam.

Drop Smith, play a 442 and watch the difference.