Initial Reflections on Chelsea Newcastle Game


Newcastle United are a very inconsistent side this season. Today, the lads were just great and deserved something from this game. But the luck will even out over the season, we’re sure of that.

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Shay Given – had a great game for Newcastle today

  • Newcastle played an excellent game today, and with any luck in the last 10 minutes, could have even come away with an unlikely win.
  • The Chelsea second goal was clearly off-side, and we’d be interested to hear if the assistant apologizes for not flagging for offside. The referee’s assistant just wasn’t doing his job. But we’ll have to get over it, and it’s not the first time and will not be the last time we’ve had a poor goal given against us.
  • Shay Given had a wonderful game today, and made some fine saves which kept Newcastle in the game, until they came back strongly in the second half.
  • The Newcastle defense played very well, especially Taylor and Cacapa in central defense, and looked quite solid although Chelsea’s first goal should have been prevented.
  • N’Zogbia played excellently well when attacking down the left and made our goal. But he seemed to be the weak link in Newcastle’s defense as Wright Phillips gave him a torrid time all afternoon. Maybe we need to play Charles on the wing and look for somebody else at left back. Where was Enrique today?
  • Just when Jose Enrique could have been brought on so we could play Charlie up front, Jose wasn’t even on the bench. Sam needs to give Jose a game soon, maybe he can even start on Wednesday and play N’Zogbia up front.
  • We defended for much of the first half, but when Newcastle started to attack in the second half, they looked a strong side and were running Chelsea ragged for 30 minutes, until Chelsea came back late in the game.
  • We cannot grumble too much about the performance of the lads today. It was guts and glory – but they must do this in every game. We’ll look for another consistent performance and perhaps some better luck at home to Manchester City on Wednesday. They deserve some good support after this display.
  • There didn’t look too much wring with the Newcastle side today, as the TV commentators pointed out. And maybe if we can work on our consistency things are not as bad as they may appear. If we were only more patient ….
  • We were proud of the lads today. 😀

Comments very welcome.



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58 comments so far

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 29, 2007 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #1

    anyone heard that modric was in alks with newcaslte over a possible moves, along with other clubs 🙂

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  • Hadrian

    Dec 29, 2007 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #2

    tom? where do u get all your news?:P

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  • Lenny

    Dec 29, 2007 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #3

    SHAFTED!!!!

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  • neozero

    Dec 29, 2007 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #4

    good performance hope we van keep it up week in week out

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  • Edd Case

    Dec 29, 2007 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #5

    Proud of the players, yes.

    Still sick of the manager, yes.

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  • MTsang

    Dec 29, 2007 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #6

    Agree. We need a more consistent performance. I’m sure we could have won against Derby and Wigan if we played how we played today.

    And please, stop putting Smith in the midfield as I think playing upfront is probably his best position.

    Anyway, it’s indeed a good game, proud of their performance, especially second half.

    Excellent work.

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  • Southern_Magpie

    Dec 29, 2007 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #7

    Modric is now staying put. I think he signed a new deal. And no I don’t speak Croatian.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 29, 2007 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #9

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3010063,00.html

    lubbly jubbly

    @Hadrian – i didnt some person posted it on bbc 606 and translated it.

    Hes in talks with many others, just exciting we are talking o a player like him.

    Jol for the toon.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 29, 2007 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #10

    http://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/suigraci-tvrde-modric-potpisao-za-newcastle/369394.aspx

    looks like it southern magpie, your link is dated 29th while mine is the 28th.

    Dudu will do for me, best passer 🙂

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 29, 2007 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #11

    they always say they are staying put, they never do, thats the kiss of death.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 29, 2007 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #12

    why are people complaining and saying we sack so many managers, foreign leagues are worse,
    reggina have had 2 or 3 managers already this season, sam wih cagliari.

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  • Southern_Magpie

    Dec 29, 2007 at 6:39 PM

    Comment #13

    And how much success have Cagliari had in that time? F**k all. Stability is key but I would be willing to give the manager time if we had a quality coach in charge. Then again i think Sam should be given the season, although he will probably need longer to really make a difference, if any.

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  • valle

    Dec 29, 2007 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #14

    “The Newcastle defense played very well, especially Taylor and Cacapa in central defense, and looked quite solid although Chelsea’s first goal should have been prevented.”

    Taylor played well???… U guys needs to see him just as a defender instead of a local defender. Had his shirt read Bramble, u guys would have been all over his back, and he was clearly at fault for failing to keep his cool and clear at the first goal.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 29, 2007 at 6:46 PM

    Comment #15

    cagliari will always be flirting with relegation, they are just a shit team whether they have managerial stability or not.

    JOL!

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  • john

    Dec 29, 2007 at 7:24 PM

    Comment #16

    taylor hugely at fault for the first goal he doesnt get stick cos he is a local player and martins goin to afr nations cup will be a huge boost cos he is hugely overated

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  • Dragoner

    Dec 29, 2007 at 7:45 PM

    Comment #17

    Valle i understand your point. I too feel Taylor played a very large part in their first goal. But other than that he was good along with the rest of defence, apart from zoggy as SWP ran him ragged all afternoon (which i cant complain about as he is a left winger and was great going forward) Also, the deflection the ball took could make any defender look stranded so i am not going to be to harsh about taylor. good defensive performance on a whole. Chelsea were very lucky with both their goals. i.e A kind deflection and an unbelievable offside mess up from the official.

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  • Ed Harrison

    Dec 29, 2007 at 7:51 PM

    Comment #18

    valle – I thought Taylor and Cacapa were quite good today (?) Agree Taylor somehow should have had the ball away for their first goal.

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  • lew Davies

    Dec 29, 2007 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #19

    JOL ????
    Look how the spuds are doing now he is gone.
    Oh and thats the same players too.
    Jol is no better than BSA. ( who has proved himself clueless recently) Just cant figure out what BSA is thinking about. He’s got to be given time but doesnt do himself any favours.
    Toon did well today, but still cant defend ANYTHING.
    What the hell is going on with Enrique????
    Looks like mid table mediocrity for the rest of the season now. (At best)
    Still going to the match on wed though, just cant help myself
    Keep the faith everyone. TOON TOON.

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  • Ben

    Dec 29, 2007 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #20

    where is everyone watching the replays of the game?My mates a chelsea fan, and is from chelsea so ill let him off, said that newcastle deserved at least a point!!!!

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  • john

    Dec 29, 2007 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #21

    THATS WHY CHARLIE SHOULD BE PLAYING WIDE LEFT WITH THE BALL AT HIS FEET HE IS BY FAR THE MOST DANGEROUS PLAYER WE HAVE GOT.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:00 PM

    Comment #22

    lew davies, he was done over by the board and commolli, they spent loads and jol didnt even want half of those players.

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  • valle

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #23

    Well, if u watch the replay, u will see how taylor seems undecided, he clearly sees the ball, but he is not sure if he should kick it or take a step further, so he lands inbetween in a position that any gymnast would be proud of. He didnt make anymore mistakes that cost us… agreed, but he often fails to clear the ball with enough power so that it ends up in our box 2 secs later and at times he looks very rashed and nervous in his play… There are also games in which he looks good, Fulham was one of them, but he really needs to play that assured 99% of the time (I can agree to 90% with him still being young, but it shouldnt cost us)

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  • valle

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:08 PM

    Comment #24

    Ed…

    “Just when Jose Enrique could have been brought on so we could play Charlie up front, Jose wasn’t even on the bench. Sam needs to give Jose a game soon, maybe he can even start on Wednesday and play N’Zogbia up front”

    I understand your point… But… If you keep in mind how people have reacted to Barton, Smith and some of the other new buys, you can understand how that could destroy such a young player trying to find his footing in the League. Sam is protecting him, and the lad will learn just by playing in the reserves and in training and he will come on when the fans are more setled.

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  • lew Davies

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #25

    Fair enough, but whats to say he wants the present players at Newcastle? You have to get the best out of the players you have and he clearly didn’t.
    Agree he was shafted at spurs, also agree he did a pretty good job initially, but IMO he wont do any better at NUFC than BSA, so whats the point of changing now?
    To be fair to BSA, he has to be given more than 6 months to sort things out.
    All this crap about long ball stuff is out of order. Arsenal scored twice tonight with long punts from the keeper, and of course nothing gets said.
    Long ball football works and all teams use it at times, and IMO so should Newcastle.

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  • lew Davies

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:15 PM

    Comment #26

    Valle – Enrique isnt playing for the reserves though is he? Thats what is so baffling.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:15 PM

    Comment #27

    just get him out now, the fixture list is tough and we wont get many points, so its the perfect time to sack him, now or at the end of the season. If jol comes he is stuck with the players we have got but the players incoming to spurs could have been avoided. I hope Jol comes, at least if we have a bad season (better than we would with allardyce) we can see some nice football.

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  • john

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:18 PM

    Comment #28

    WHY EVER SINCE SIR BOBBY LEFT HAVE WE LOOKED LIKE A TEAM THAT HAS JUST BEEN PUT TOGETHER FOR THE MATCH. WHEN YOU SEE OTHER TEAMS THEY HAVE A FLUENCY ABOUT THEM AND WE JUST LOOK TOTALLY DISJOINTED AS THOUGH THEY HAVE NEVER PLAYED TOGETHER

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  • john

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #29

    JOSE ENRIQUE IS PROBABLY SITTIN IN MCDONALDS AT THIS MINUTE WAITING FOR THE OTHER FAT MAN ALLARDYCE

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  • lew Davies

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:27 PM

    Comment #30

    you have just contradicted yourself now. If we aren’t going to get many more points from now to the end of the sesason, then whats the point of sacking him now. Jol wont do any better, given the same players. Give him till the end of the season and see what happens. If things continue as they are then I’m sure he will go. But IMO things can only get better. If we get Jol now, and things dont get better then YOU will be calling for his head too by May. Its time for a lot of fans to wise up, accept that, at the moment we are a mediocre team at best, and give the manager time and support.

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  • valle

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:30 PM

    Comment #31

    Lew Davies… I thought i remembered him turning out for the reserves on a number of occasions, but i will check up on it and get back to you… Even playing in training will give him an idea tho, so im sure theres a good reason.

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  • Ed Harrison

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:30 PM

    Comment #32

    lew – there didn’t look too much wrong with the Newcastle side today – we really should let Sam have this season – at least. This display and Arsenal were great. We are just inconsistent, but we know that now – and surely that can be put right.

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  • Ed Harrison

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #33

    We need to give Jose Enrique a game – he hasn’t played in ages.

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  • valle

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #34

    Ed… Surely u must agree that our fans seem tense atm, and if young Jose have other stuff on his mind such as setling in a new enviroment, then playing him now could backfire…

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  • GAV

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #35

    SEEN ENRIQUE AT WEIGHT WATCHERS HE WAS WITH GEREMI

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  • lew Davies

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #36

    Cheers Ed, totally agree with that.
    The inconsistency is the thing no one can understand. I think there must be something going on behind the scenes that we dont know about. Hence the Barton business etc.

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  • john

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:39 PM

    Comment #37

    how can sam stay on as manager he has already said he doesnt trust his players what must they think after that. the sad thing is that he is a very experience manasger who thinks he can get the best out of his player playing out of position

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  • valle

    Dec 29, 2007 at 8:51 PM

    Comment #38

    John… Actually it seemed the players reacted just as he wanted from that puplic comment… They needed a kick up the backside, and u guys would also be unhappy if he just defended the players when they performed so badly as they did against Wigan.

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  • Cockney Magpie

    Dec 29, 2007 at 10:19 PM

    Comment #39

    I fear if we keep Sam the whole Season, by next season, N’zog, Martins,Owen,Milner,Emre will all be replaced by Ivan Campo, Emile Heskey, Claudi0 Pizarro, Danny Murphy and Robbie Savage

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  • Dragoner

    Dec 29, 2007 at 10:24 PM

    Comment #40

    The strange thing is Cockney, we would probably be more effective with those players you just named.

    However, if that did indeed happen i would probably pay good money to have sam assassinated.

    In fact, if i see any one of those players in a Toon shirt i would pay good money to have sam, mort and ashley ALL assassinated.

    can i just ask, who was secretly happy Cho Jae Jin was not signed in the end? i know i was 🙂

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