Sam Needs Newcastle Fans On His Side

Being a Football Manager in the English Premier League must be one of the hardest jobs in world football.


Sam Allardcye – he must get Newcastle fans on his side

Not only is the job in the public view almost every game, but managers are continually in the press about losing their jobs, and it only takes a couple of defeats for this to happen, to almost any manager.

Sam Allardyce is no exception at the perennial under-achievers Newcastle United, and he has recently come in for increasing flak since taking over at St James’ Park in the summer. A run of poor form that has seen us on two consecutive defeats, and only 2 wins and 3 draws in our last 11 games, is enough for a lot of the Geordie fans to have given up on Big Sam.

However, Sam was given a vote of confidence by Newcastle Chairman Chris Mort, who just laughed off all the rumors that owner Mike Ashley was considering sacking the 53-year-old, and thinks all the bad news surrounding Sam and the club is getting a tad tedious.

Sam Allardyce said today:

“I do not have any worries or concerns as far as they (Mort and Ashley) are concerned.”

“The pressure that has been put on them as well as me, they understand it is outside influences trying to exert pressure on them.”

“It is all part of the game.”

To be more specific Sam was then asked directly if he felt Newcastle Legend Alan Shearer is casting a shadow over him, Sam said:

“It has always been there and it always will be. There is nothing more to say on the subject.”

A success scenario we’d like to see is for Alan to come in and be Assistant Manager for a couple of years before Sam gives up the reins. But Sam has to prove before this season is out, that he’s the man that can turn the Tyneside club around. And with the results so far, Sam will agree he hasn’t done that yet.

But he needs to get the fans fully behind him the rest of the season. The only way he can do that is to win games, and have the team play good football. Sounds so simple, doesn’t it.

What do you think about the situation? Comments very welcome.

25 comments so far

  • wsq

    Jan 2, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #1

    hope the team doesn’t disappoint us again with a pathetic performance no matter what stupid tactics allardyce puts out, do it well and take some extra intiative.

    putting off some sleep to watch newcastle.

  • mark

    Jan 2, 2008 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #2

    Its the idiots like pi55 off sam who ruin NUFC.

  • Nick Dryden

    Jan 2, 2008 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #3

    The title says it all. Ain’t going to happen unless Sam comes up with a plan B. Frankly I think that is beyond him. Fair play if he could change, but what are the odds? His style of play will only ever get you so far. Better players will want to play football. If I was the manager, and things weren’t working out, I would look at ways of altering the fans and players perspective of me and take a long hard look at myself and ask if I could compromise on any level and move forward.

  • Stamford Toon

    Jan 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #4

    ‘the only way we can do that is to win games’ really? We can support the team, and Sam, win or lose………..that is if we really are supporters. What good would it do us to have yet another manager. Sam has to be given a chance to prove himself he is not a miracle man turning round 53 years of underachievement in 6 months. We are already better off this year than we were at the same time last year. Sam is working hard to build the club ( not just the 1st team ) and this needs to be recognised and praised. The boo boys and the web moaners are providing useful fodder for the press which in turn must undermine the players confidence and motivation, why try hard when you know the fans will boo you off at half time??? Quite frankly I don’t believe that we have the ‘best fans in the world’ I hear more positive & vocal supporters for other teams in the prem. At the last home game supporters were sitting on their hands and very quiet. I hope it is different tonight, but not very confident that it will be.
    Howay the Lads!!!!!!!!!!

  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 2, 2008 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #5

    Im supporting the team but sam is going to have to pay me the world to support him.

  • Leo

    Jan 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #6

    yep to right tom toon, support the team now

  • scott 9

    Jan 2, 2008 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #7

    being a football maneger in the epl is one of the hardest jobs in the world but the hardest job in the football world is being newcastle united maneger

  • Ed Harrison

    Jan 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #8

    scott 9 – agree with you completely.

  • craig chisholm

    Jan 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #9

    i have been a supporter all my life and a season ticket holder for donkeys. i just dont see what all the fuss is about lads. we are two places higher than last year, more points – just, and a better goal diff – just. he has lost just 8 prem games too. its mad all this talk of sacking sam. give the poor bloke a break for christs sake. he needs this season and also next – minimum. how many seasons have we seen us recently in relegation scraps etc. at least this season we are safe and always have been. we need to do our job of turning up every week and screaming the team on and let the team and management do their job. otherwise we are not good support really are we? i see some of the negative stuff on this blog and it makes me fume – fair weather supporters. its like Derby were singing last week – ‘you only sing when your winning’. we need to chil out a bit and everyone needs to get on board. we play an important part in this and at the minute i would say we are performing worse than any player we have (ok, carr appart!))

  • Macas

    Jan 2, 2008 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #10

    Can’t believe people are saying we are better off than we were at this point last season. The difference is we have played all our easy games! It will be interesting to see the reaction after the next 9 games.

  • Steeley

    Jan 2, 2008 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #11

    The only way I’m going to get behind Sam Allardyce now is if he changes his ways and plays a more positive style of football. The only way the players are going to get behind Sam Allardyce is if he starts playing them all where naturally fit in. All it takes is for him to play 4-4-2 with players correctly placed and with positiv tactics (i.e. not hoofing the ball upfield against a team like Derby at home!).
    If it all goes wrong and we still play poo then it’s back to the drawing for us all, however, I’m sure that it will have a much more positive outcome if we just give it a try!!
    I support NUFC through thick and thin – but FSA has tested my patience too far now, and he’s ALMOST beyond forgiveness!

  • craig chisholm

    Jan 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #12

    maccas, all this talk of playing all the easy games is just rubbish mate. we have played half the games and everyone has played everyone already appart from man utd. we have 9 home games left and 9 away. some of bigger teams are away games and some are home. whats the diff. besides, we do just as well against the higher up teams as the lower down ones. a classic example being that we drew against arse (top) and derby (bottom). you ask why everyone says we are better off, well, the reason would be plain and simple, that we are, in every way. you need to look at the stats lads. since the turn of the millenium our best year was 01/02 when at this same time we were joint top with arse on 39 points. since then we have been in decline ever since. in recent serasons – 03/04 we had 26 points, 04/05 we had 22 points, 05/06 we had 25 points. this year we have 26. ok, its not much higher but if you look at it closer, in between the lines you can see that sam has came in and reversed a downward drend year on year for the past 4 years. in the same breath we have had massive changes happen this year at st james. in all of the seasons inc the best one in 01/02 we were up and down like yo-yos, often in relegation fights. so, is it really that bad, no, its better. the only prob really which i will agree on is that we are not playing fluid football, the way we like it. it will come though.

  • James

    Jan 2, 2008 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #13

    What Sam seems to be ignorant to the most, is that the Premiership has changed. Even the lower end clubs in the league are investing in pace so the league is lightening quick now. Sam didn’t buy one attacking player with pace. His way is a thing of the past. It would work in the 90s and 80s, but not now.

  • Rob Kirton

    Jan 2, 2008 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #14

    Forget getting too detailed about stats. We are about where we were last year when some people derided Roeders performance, and eventually called for his head at season end.

    Albeit it then we had

    a) A dozen players out injured, were forced to play juniors and the club were in a financial mess, unable to get many recruits either summer or Jan window.

    b) The team fought like hell for the manager and tried to play football.

    Sam is not the devil incarnate, nor has managed to deliver anything better than Roeder – in far less testing circumstances.

    Cheered on the team when we had Roeder, I’ll Cheer the team on now. Just waiting until we get our act together and look for a top class manager (or at least an ambitious one).

    Self promoting Wannabes with a dubious history and stone age ideas about football tactics needn’t apply :0)

  • Steeley

    Jan 2, 2008 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #15

    Rob Kirton – spot on Son!

  • Edd Case

    Jan 2, 2008 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #16

    Rob Kirton – spot on Son!


  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #17

    Rob Kirton – spot on Son!


  • evildick

    Jan 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #18

    I believe BS deserves time. It’s not just about the starting eleven or the tactics, our club was rotting from the inside and BS has got rid of most of the dregs. It will take time to gel, yea i know ‘how much time!’ but realistically we had minimal cash to spend, and probably won’t in January either.

    If all the boo boys would quit moaning and start SUPPORTING the team, that would be like a new player in itself. It’s %%%N depressing when I sit here (in aus) and watch the games and hear the away end at st james. I expect you local boys to drown them out! if i could get there i’d be screaming my lungs out for BS’ shite long balls! SUPPORT YOUR TEAM!

  • craig chisholm

    Jan 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #19

    rob kirton, sorry mate, dont agree with your summary that much. roeder got sacked on his performance in the SECOND half of the season not the first part. that season we took a pathetic 17 points from the half way stage to the end. if roeder had done a mirror image in the second half of the season he would not have lost is seat. in the same token lads, if we end up getting 17 points i will prob be singing the same tune as some of you. as for the injuries with roeder, alot of that is down to the training techinques too. have you all noticed that it is not as bad this term… and all this from a manager with old fashioned techniques? we were also rushing back players too quick that season too so they were breaking down again too quick. plus you have to rememeber that we spent nearly three times more money under roeder and fat fred. so i stick by my guns on this one lads, there is far too much mass hysteria surrounding nothing really and 8 prem defeats is not any where near enough to base this witch hunt on. sorry to disagree like!

  • Rob Kirton

    Jan 2, 2008 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #20

    craig chisholm: Fine we’ll have to disagree. I guess where you’re saying spending more money under Roeder / FFS I guess you’re refering to nett spending. If so it’s one area I would probably rate what Sam has done. He seems to be better at the wheeler dealer side of things than the previous regime. All I want to see is performances. Results will follow.

    Maybe the new regime has improved the fitness situation. That is always hard to gauge – though in the absence of any other info I’d give them the benefit of the doubt. I wasn’t doubting modern methods behind the scenes, I was doubting what appears to me the stone age tactics, which admittedly are reminiscent of Newcastle late 70’s / early 80’s :0(

    My biggest fear for us (and Sam for that matter) is that we will have a wreteched time this month given our current form, unless we snap out of it quickly.

    I don’t like the guys ideas about football and how it should be played. I won’t be part of a baying mob outside of the SJH stand shouting for his head; however we all know how quickly these things can develop. It would be sad for both him and the club.

    Unfortunately I dont subscribe to the “only if he plays 4-4-2 or players in correct position school of thought” Leopards don’t change their spots overnight.

    There is one person who I personally * wouldn’t * particularly like to see back at Newcastle, who has ever got away with saying lets play ugly and get results. People forget how Ardiles tried to get us to play pretty football and it was Keegan who temporarily had to bring in the win at any cost mentality (with signings to match). Against his nature and indeed of our club, but at least it stopped us going down the pan at the time.

    As we are not yet in such a backs to wall position, I’ll keep chipping away asking for a more expansive game….

  • Steeley

    Jan 2, 2008 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #21

    Can I just ask people then, what would the absolut worst position/points tally you would take without calling for Sam’s head at the end of the season?

    Hearing what Mort has said, I think barring an absolute travesty (I think losses against Man City and Stoke might do it) that FSA will keep his job until at least the summer.

    Would it take us bing relegated for this season to be classed as disastrous, or would anything lower than last year officially be classed as being poor enough to get rid?? And please bear in mind just angry we all were when Roeder took us to that finish!!

  • Steeley

    Jan 2, 2008 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #22

    I would probably say that anything below 11th…12th at a push should be immediate sacking. I think 10th would be just about enough to justify his retention, however, looking at just how positive I was at the start of the season that this was going to be “the one”, I think it’s really pitiful that my xpectations have fallen so low that 10th how low its gone!!

  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 2, 2008 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #23

    Steely ill say as min requirement, 10th, if we arent in the top half he deserves to be hung, drawn and quartered.

  • dragoner

    Jan 2, 2008 at 5:27 PM

    Comment #24

    i say 10th place is what i expect

  • Toon Al

    Jan 2, 2008 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #25

    sorry lads, but every season is THE season until this time of year

    i feel we should be pushing for uefa or even intertoto cup to be realistic. if we are 10th.. we’ve had worse finishes, truth is, if we ended up comin out in the second half of the season and won 5 or 6 on the trot everyone would be callin sam the saviour

    until he lost 2 in a row. we need to be patient, if we consistantly play like we did against the big teams – bar liverpool – we’d be fine, ive read comments here saying these were some of the ebst performances people had seen in years, have his tactics been so different in those games? no, they havent, which makes you question where the problem really lies.


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