Sam Such A Saint in Barton Situation

Newcastle’s lawyers are looking into Joey Barton’s bail conditions to see if Joey can return to play for the club after being released from custody in Liverpool on Thursday evening.


Joey Barton – just released from jail

The Liverpool-born midfielder missed the games against Chelsea and Manchester City after being remanded to Liverpool Prison on charges of assault and affray. However, he has now been released on conditional bail until January 16, and the club is checking to see whether or not he is available to manager Sam Allardyce.

Barton has been charged with assault and affray after an incident outside a McDonald’s restaurant in his hometown of Liverpool on December 27 and will face trial at Liverpool magistrates court on Wednesday, January 16th.

Allardyce said yesterday:

“There may be a possibility, certainly not for the Stoke match, but after that, there might be the possibility.”

“We are doing our research into that with the lawyer and making absolutely certain that there are going to be no rules or regulations set that we might be breaking if we do attempt to get Joey back into the squad, and take it from there.”

Allardyce said he would travel to Hampshire after Newcastle’s FA Cup third-round tie against Stoke City tomorrow to meet Barton at the Sporting Chance Clinic, where Barton is staying as part of the conditions of his bail, following his release from prison on Thursday.

Allardyce admitted the timing of Barton’s arrest could not have been much worse, as he fights to save his job as Newcastle manager and said he was hugely disappointed with the player’s behavior. However, Sam still seems keen to help the troubled midfielder salvage his career at the club, if he is allowed to.

You’ve got to admire Sam Allardyce for what he’s doing for Joey, whatever you think of him as a manager. We thought Joey’s career would be over at the club, and it still may be, but that hasn’t stopped Sam from doing his very best for one of his players, who’s in big trouble.

Whether Joey deserves it or not (and we’re not convinced he does), you’ve just got to give it to Big Sam, that he’s doing his very best for Joey, in a time of need. And remember, Sam’s doing this at a time when he has to be very concerned about his own position at the Tyneside club. The stress on Big Sam has to be very severe right now, and coming from multiple sources and lots of nasty stuff is being thrown at Sam from the media.

We think it’s just great what Big Sam is trying to do for Joey, and we’re not embarrassed to say that. At the end of the day, it’s all about what kind of person you are in life, and whether you have been successful professionally or not, is all rather secondary, at the end of the day.

Sam said yesterday:

“I have spoken to Joey just to find out from him and his solicitors what can and can’t be done from our point of view,”

“When we get all that information we will see how we go in terms of him starting training and when he can be selected again.”

“I’ve only spoken to him on the phone and he has apologized. He is obviously relieved he is out of prison. From there he has got to concern himself about his case and try to sort that out now. From our point of view, we need to keep him fit to play, if and when he is available again.”

“I’m not getting sucked into talking about how I felt when I was told about what happened. We can talk about that more when we get together face to face but it couldn’t have been worse timing for us and him.”

“I hope to see him after the Stoke game. I’ve got to focus on our FA Cup tie first and then I will go and see him.”

Barton, signed by Newcastle from Manchester City for £5.8M in the summer, will not play against Stoke City, and is unlikely to play until we know the outcome of his trial, at the very earliest.

But we’re very proud of Big Sam right now, as a man, that’s for sure.

Comments very welcome.

22 comments so far

  • omar

    Jan 5, 2008 at 3:07 AM

    Comment #1

    signing joey barton is just one of many mistakes big sam has made. he picks rubbish teams, has rubbish tactics, and the players dont seem to care much for him either.

    if shearer wants the job then give it to him. the moment any credible manager is interested in the job then sam has to go.

  • I feel what he did .. he got the punishment .He has an equal right to live his life as he wants to.Best of luck Barton !

  • geno toon

    Jan 5, 2008 at 5:09 AM

    Comment #3

    If sam did not see Barton as something that can benefit the team and mostly his position as manager I wonder if he would bother doing all this. It is when you dont need someone and still decide to help them is the true test.

  • UTD111

    Jan 5, 2008 at 7:17 AM

    Comment #4

    Interesting article with a refreshingly different focus that I can relate to. I’ve worked with so many different people from all walks of life over the years – and the ones that stick in the memory are the ones who helped and supported others when they were down or facing huge problems.
    Good man Sam!

  • Chicken

    Jan 5, 2008 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #5

    I don’t f***ing believe this. I’ve actually stood by Sam while everyone else has been screaming for his head. Well that’s f***ked it now as far as I’m concerned. He makes it sound like JB isn’t even going to face disciplinary action – instead he’s going to waltz straight back into the first team. That nasty little scroat should be thrown out on his ear – he had his chance and he blew it – big time. If this is the sort of precedent our club is going to set then I will have to seriously consider attending any games in the future.
    R.I.P. N.U.F.C

  • ben

    Jan 5, 2008 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #6

    I wouldn’t have signed him in the 1st place…

    but at least NUFC could have done with some regulations in his contract for such cases, since they knew he is a “accident waiting to happen”

    Now they pay him his wages as normal and he sits in jail/clinics… it’s unbelievable.

    SA’s gesture to not give up is nice, but for a player who brought such negative effects on the club and team all by his own fault it’s not fitting at all.

  • steve

    Jan 5, 2008 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #7

    This is a complete and utter joke, in any other walk of life you would be suspended from work until after the court case and if found guilty sacked

  • graham

    Jan 5, 2008 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #8

    I’ve just had a thought that contradicts my initial thoughts about Barton. I supported Duncan ferguson when he was here and he did time for assault. Maybe Barton derserves another chance, but not before his trial is over.

  • Toonmate, Denmark

    Jan 5, 2008 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #9

    Barton should be sacked now. He had a record while playing for City. They fired him. Then he got a second or third or fourth chance on Tyneside. And now he has blown it again. The man is a disgrace for any football club. And an bad example for youngsters.

  • johnny

    Jan 5, 2008 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #10

    Barton is being tolerated for one reason only, he represents a 5.8m investment and more to the point BSA has to stand by him or it reflects badly on him convincing the board to sign him.

  • Leo

    Jan 5, 2008 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #11

    sam is going to beat the shit out of barton i hope haha

    i would sing ‘big sams black and white army’ one more time if i saw the little shit with a good ole busted eye

    nah only joking, if (and its a big if) he is found not guilty then all of this talk seems harsh but come on, no matter if he was at fault he should not have been out at 5.30 in the morning

    im 20 year old and earn alot of money for my age (not meaning to sound pompus) but if my boss had found me out drinking at that time in the morning fighting i would not disagree with being fired.

    he is paid the large amounts of money to keep his body in a strong state and being fresh for training every day, that does not mean going out for a sess the day before…

    this aint rugby mate

  • Frankieboy

    Jan 5, 2008 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #12

    Soft as Shite !!! so much for bring a stickler for discipline.
    The whole football world is laughing at us again.
    Different situation with the likes of Adams and Merson, they had their personal problems and overcame them with their clubs support,but they didn’t go out and attack other people and affect other peoples families.
    SACK THE THUG now!!!

  • Steeley

    Jan 5, 2008 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #13

    Well its obvious why Sam is so desperate to get Barton back….it’s the only way he wont look a 100% set-in-stone idiot for even looking at the player, let alone buying him!

    However, this is catch 22 for Allardyce! Look like a numpty for trying to hlp him now, and look like a numpty for not….either way, another nail in Sam’s coffin for being such an idiot and taking this risk in the first place!

  • Neil A H

    Jan 5, 2008 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #14

    Barton still may never play for Newcastle but it shows a lot for Sam to be there for his players. Sometimes as fans we forget that managers and players are people with real emotions. Sam is going through a really hard time right now. Sticking by Barton is not a popular thing to do but it is one of his players and he is doing what a manager should. Barton still should be severely punished but rash decisions won’t help the situation.

  • S_W_A_S_T_I_K_K_A

    Jan 5, 2008 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #15

    Give him a break!
    Does anyone actually know what happened that night?? You act like fokking idiots and mad papparazzies, jumping right at him without knowing anything…
    If he is found guilty by court, then fine, say what you want..
    BUT until then shut up, and go home and f..k your mum!!


  • S_W_A_S_T_I_K_K_A

    Jan 5, 2008 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #16

    Not you Neil A H,,nor you ED!!

  • milner fan

    Jan 5, 2008 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #17

    Can i ask why alot of fans are calling for shearer to take the job? he has no managerial experience, yes he might understand the fans and have passion but thats not enough in the premiership. Give BSA couple seasons and im sure we will be a strong european side within that time.

  • Rob Kirton

    Jan 5, 2008 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #18

    MilnerFan: I’m not personally calling for Shearer to be brought in however inexperience should not be a bar to getting a managerial position.

    Whenever we do appoint our next manager I would prefer it to be somebody who has been a proven winner – then stick by them. In my opinion that kind of rules out Sam, though to be totally fair he has managed to win the league of Ireland in the past.

    No experience?

    Roy Keane was at home walking his dogs before being appointed Sunderland Manager.

    Kevin Keegan had spent several years improving his golf handicap in Spain before being appointed Toon manager.

    OK Roy Keane hasn’t pulled up too many trees so far this year, though Keegans record still stands way and above Sams in terms of premiership results.

    You’ve either got it or you aint. No amount of PFA badges are going to make up for it. Maybe Shearer does have the “X” factor. Not neccessarily my preference, but doesn’t say he cannot do the job.

  • stjames

    Jan 5, 2008 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #19

    Ed Harrison:

    In your piece you stated four times “what a splendid fellow Sam is” for doing his” very best for Joey. ”

    Are you sure he is doing a good thing for Joey, or for the club or for our young fans? I don’t think so. It looks plain stupid to me if he’s trying to get Joey back before he has been sentenced. I simply do not believe he will do that.

    Even after he’s been sentenced, which ever way the verdict goes, his future at the club has to be evaluated against the rules of the club and Joey’s contract.

    Let’s remember that we had an important game on Wedensday at noon in which Joey was declared not fit enough to play. 12 hours later he’s picked up dead drunk for an assault in LIVERPOOL. If he was not fit to play on Wednesday he should definitely be ready for training on Thursday, and any other day for that matter, for our next match.

    Joey’s future as an idol and role model for our kids should be over.

  • Frankieboy

    Jan 5, 2008 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #20


    You think it was just coincidence he happened to be there on each occasion somebody got twatted.(pardon the french)
    Innocent till proven guilty…maybe give the benefit for the first incident but the rest….it aint rocket science n remember he was arrested due to CCTV evidence The camera does not lie.
    I have worked in within the judicail system for 10 years n found if it was a one off …unlucky wrong place wrong time…..if it happens time and time again ………..THUG.

  • Ed Harrison

    Jan 5, 2008 at 6:21 PM

    Comment #21

    stjames – we don’t think Joey deserves it – also i’ll need to stop repeating myself in these articles.
    He’s a terrible role model for our kids – terrible.

  • harrier

    Jan 6, 2008 at 4:24 AM

    Comment #22

    I have my own opinions on Joey Barton, but I will not share them. I encourage others to do the same. In our society our justice system is built around the principle of being innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. No matter what media speculation, public opinion, or innuendo inferred otherwise, Joey Barton should be treated as an innocent man until he is otherwise shown not to be. Many people in the media or otherwise seem to feel that they can be judge, jury, and executioner (for lack of a better cliche), however, a people that do not adhere to this most basic principle cannot consider themselves just. For the time being, NUFC and its fans should treat him as any other player in our squad, to do so otherwise would be highly irresponsible.


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