Sam Shocked By Dismissal

While it will always be hard to know just how much Sam knew about his dismissal, on the surface it certainly looks like it took him by surprise.


Sam Allardyce – had to be surprised by dismissal

The 53-year-old met the Press this afternoon at the training ground to talk about Saturday’s upcoming league fixture at Manchester United. He talked long about what he wanted to do at Old Trafford and then answered questions relating to his plans for the January transfer window.

But we cannot believe that Sam knew then of the drama that was to come. We think he got to know the news only after the press conference.

There was no hint of the drama to come, with Allardyce talking at length about the game, and his plans for this month’s transfer window. This has to come as a big shock to Sam because only last weekend he had been talking about being confident of not being sacked after talking to both Chris Mort and owner Mike Ashley.

But it may be that things came to a head when the club were unwilling to bankroll the players he wanted to bring into the club.

His departure has come at an awkward time and we have to believe that we have a new manager already lined up to be announced tomorrow. Things will probably be being organized for the Press conference behind the scenes right now.

We just cannot believe Chris and Mike let Sam go with nobody ready to replace him. The odds are that it will be Alan Sheerer, although that is by no means a certainty.

We fully expect a new manager to be announced sometime tomorrow.

Comments welcome.

32 comments so far

  • Zx

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:10 PM

    Comment #1

    CM has been keeping silence, so that’s what he is up to. This news has really caught me by surprise. STUNNED! I don’t really like BSA style of playing, but I do sympathise him

  • Edd Case

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #2

    I’m actually one of the people shouting loudly about getting rid of Fat Sam – but I never really actually believed it would happen, at least not now.

    I am lost for words – but I’m smiling…

    Now this really is going to be a test of what Mort and Ashley really think of the club and how ambitious they are…

    Mourinho would be my first choice, but I doubt he’d want it – though he’s the sort that loves to be idolized and if he got it right up here – wow.

    Failing him, I’ll take anyone who’ll play an attacking team with flair and creativity – but for once with a solid defence.

    As for Sky Sports rattling on about the next manager NOT BEING FOREIGN – Forget that!
    There’s no-one English who’s good enough…

    Fingers crossed we finnaly have a board who get in the right person.

  • lezb

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #3

    Hope its not true but word on the street its McClaren We could not be that stupid COULD WE

  • Toon Al

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:26 PM

    Comment #4

    i always feel uneasy wen this happens..

    especially now, we might miss out on diarra, brown, who knows who else?

  • Howie

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:32 PM

    Comment #5

    no to shearer. would love jose. mark hughes would be good

  • Davey G

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #6


  • joppadoni

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #7

    I didn’t like his tactics, team selection nor his style of play but he may have been trying to suss out the players, get a feel of what they can offer over a bigger picture than trying to slam in 10 goals a game.

    But i know thats bollocks. Last year Sam looked tired, sick of it and couldn’t be arsed at Bolton. We got him at a low ebb and i think his enthusiasm was gone. Not saying he came for the cash but i don’t think he was himself. Wish him the best in his future endeavours, i wish he had been a success, i wish he had been given more time. I seriously think Alan Shearer as toon manager right now is roulette wheel choice and i wouldn’t make it myself. However id rather burn the toon badge off my left shoulder, bin all 15 toon tops i own and start supporting the Mackems than have Steve McClaren in charge. He shouldn’t have been put ahead of Allardyce for the England job never mind at the toon..

    Good luck Mr Ashley, i hope you know what your doing as i don’t.

  • ToonKing

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #8

    My thoughts exactly Lezb, i keep hearing the same thing. if it’s McLaren i’ll start making the “Sack the Board” banners and meet you lot at Shearer’s.

  • true

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:34 PM

    Comment #9

    foreign please

  • Marosh

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:37 PM

    Comment #10

    What about Andy Boothroyd from Watfard ?

  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:37 PM

    Comment #11

    it will be foreign, anyone with any sense would appoint a foreign manager.

  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #12

    Ye, Marosh i was thinking that, and he is actually a good manager.

  • Marosh

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #13

    I think he is very good. He plays with watfard nice footbal. Just think what he could do with us. But is he ready for this sort of challenge ?

  • Howie

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:49 PM

    Comment #14

    wouldnt mind a boothroyd or mowbray although he was a smog. better than some others mentioned.

  • Uatu The Watcher

    Jan 9, 2008 at 7:49 PM

    Comment #15

    if nufc want to emulate arsenal’s blueprint for success ie. buy young talented players, isnt it the manager’s job to mould his players into the kind of playing staff he could fit into his system. who really buys players in newcastle fc, that is my question here with BSA gone?

    the last of fatcat freddy remnants hav left the building. lets hope & pray, we are finally movin in the right direction.

  • valle

    Jan 9, 2008 at 8:01 PM

    Comment #16

    All u brainless moaners are in for a suprise, u will not get ur Hiddink or Mourinho… Instead u will get a novice Shearer or someone else who is in no way better than Sam… New regime, less money to spend same old knee jerk reactions

  • Andy1

    Jan 9, 2008 at 8:02 PM

    Comment #17

    Gutted that we have sacked Big Sam. He was stupid, clueless, played shit football, had no idea what the fans wanted, had no plan for the team, had 8 months and still didn’t know his best eleven, and he couldn’t deal with the pressure. But now the whole club looks a joke and we’re stuck with a worse midfield than last year and with no time for new manager to sort the team out in january.

    We need a big name manager and he needs to be backed straight away in the window so he can save the season. Hopefully whoever it is realises we need a new midfield and will try and get rid of shit like Smith, Geremi Butt in the summer.

    I think it’s got to be foreign manager. Are there any decent English managers. The names being suggested are just like Sam. They don’t know how to play the football we want and only know how to sign players for a smaller team. We need someone who decent players will want to play for and who knows the foreign leagues – look at what Sven’s done.

  • ravatooniac

    Jan 9, 2008 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #18

    My worry is – was he sacked or was it mutual with the board telling him that we are selling someone like Taylor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Mac

    Jan 9, 2008 at 8:07 PM

    Comment #19

    The timing is wrong very very wrong. We are gonna miss out on all decent transfer targets. Who is gonna wanna sign for a club with no manager? Hopefully but i doubt it,we have a manager lined up and i hope it’s not Shearer or McClarren. We need a top manager with a wide scouting network and idea how to play the game at the highest level and a huge footballing brain. But again i doubt it i think there’s been a disagreement over transfer funds and the new owners have made there first big mistake. The Toon Army Merry go Round is off again,Buckle up and enjoy the ride

  • Tom Cairns

    Jan 9, 2008 at 8:07 PM

    Comment #20

    to be honest i feel like this is a big mistake. i cant help but thinking that ashley and mort who havent got experience in running a football club have paid way too much attention to the scare-mongering of the press.

    i guess allardyce was never their choice and now they have the opportunity to really put their own stamp on the club. he is a billionaire so with any luck a hugely experienced and successful manager will be brought in who will get their entire financial backing. sadly i think it will be summer before we see any further transfers into the first team squad. it is better though that they get someone in who they want to back rather than pissing away money on sam to only replace him in six months time.

    as long as the new manager is most definitely a step up from sam i guess we cant complain because we do still have a squad that should be at least competing for a place in europe.

  • James

    Jan 9, 2008 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #21

    If Ashley unveils Jose Mourinho as the new Manager on Monday, are we really going to care about the timing of Sam’s sacking?

  • valle

    Jan 9, 2008 at 8:14 PM

    Comment #22

    ravatooniac… Agree about ur post 16… The owner and chairman has made allot of popular media stunts but so far we have only spent 10 million on players… Debt cleared or not, we havnt exactly set the EPL alight with powerfull signings, and who knows what their plans are.

  • ObaFan2

    Jan 9, 2008 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #23

    I knew that this transfer window would make or break the situation and it has. Too soon imo but if his bosses didn’t want to back him finantially or didn’t like his targets or even who he wished to sell then thats that.
    Hopefully we’ll see a different Oba.
    Hopefully we wont see Jol or McClaren (this list may get longer).

  • valle

    Jan 9, 2008 at 8:26 PM

    Comment #24

    James… Im gonna counter ur question… If Ashley unveils Steve McClaren on monday, are we REALLY gonna worry about the timing of Sam’s sacking?

  • G.

    Jan 9, 2008 at 8:40 PM

    Comment #25

    Imagine José bringing Drogba to the Toon 🙂

  • Obafan

    Jan 9, 2008 at 8:57 PM

    Comment #26

    I also was hoping SA was going to be sacked, but I also didn’t think that it would now be the time to do so.

    I’m happy they sacked him, but I’m also a bit nervous about who they might bring in… CM and MA will have their name already lined up!!!

    – Mourinho (perhaps Sir BR can talk to him, but I can’t see this hapenning)
    – Rijkaard (good tactical coach, who has lots of problems in Barcelona)
    – Adriaanse (a very good coach, who likes attacking football)
    – Van Gaal (a very good coach, but he is a bit arrogant, but if he can get us into the good irection, why not???)
    – Lippi (I don’t know if he has got a job ATM, but he would be fantastic)
    – Shearer (and I think the best for him is that he can start as an assistent of the new manager)
    – Redknapp (very clever man, but he will never quit Pompey ATM, IMO)
    – Houllier (my first choice, because he is just very good and has also prooved that. I also like the style he lets his team play in)

    – Mc Claren (lpease not him or I will be asking SA to come back 😉 )
    – Hughes (he is not that bad, but I think he is not capable of turning this mess around)
    – ……………

  • James

    Jan 9, 2008 at 10:05 PM

    Comment #27

    Valle – It’s not McLaren. Trust me on that.

  • Leo

    Jan 9, 2008 at 11:43 PM

    Comment #28

    why limit our scope for a good manager by only going for british people….

    mclaren is english… no please no not him
    no no no no no no no no no no no no

    noi noi noi noi noi for those with adnoid problems haha


    Jan 9, 2008 at 11:44 PM

    Comment #29

    am i the only one seeing the big picture here ???? not all of us liked big sams style of football agreed.. but he’s just bid for brown brought in tozer ect and tried for diarra just this week.. it must be obvious he’s been told he’s gotta sell one of our best players by the outfit thats come in to piss apart our beloved foundations,that were lyng in ruins anyway by the way, taylor, owen or oba will be gone this transfer window sold off to the highest bidder maybe all 3 the only tidy players we have (owen can go as far as i care) but bsa has put up a fight and lost….. nufc fans wake up and smell the coffee. r we a selling club? 50,000 fans each week – we should not be!!!!

    jose.. well he’s not allowed to manage a premier lge club this year as part of his settlement with cfc so get a grip, wake up you nutters, why would he be even interested with our track record plus would he get 200 mill to spend like he had at cfc doubt it very much

  • Leo

    Jan 9, 2008 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #30

    jose bringing drogba to the toon. quality, would he emence

  • lezb

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:30 AM

    Comment #31

    Pay enough and we can have any manager, FACT so stop the who will come to the toon???whinge.You are deluded if you think that they come for glory this applies to both players and managers.Money talks anything else is a bonus.Get real.Why would Brown leave Han U for The toon not rocket science is it NO ITS NOT GLORY ITS CASH AND LOTS OF IT.Managers are just the same.

  • will

    Jan 10, 2008 at 8:19 AM

    Comment #32

    please god not shearer


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