Ahsley Didn’t Make Millions Being Soft


Mike Ashley and Chris Mort look like very well intentioned and excellent business men, which is exactly what they are.

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Mike Ashley – made millions in business, but you cannot be sentimental

They didn’t get into that position by being soft in business, and one of the requirements to be a top businessman is you have to be decisive and, at times, ruthless. It doesn’t always look pretty from the outside either.

So when Chris and Mort found themselves in the dilemma of an under-performing manager at Newcastle, the question was whether to give Sam Allardyce time, which he has pleaded for, or whether to cut their losses and bring in somebody new, who presumably could do better in the job.

They eventually chose the latter, and since there’s still another shoe to fall, we cannot really say if we agree with what they’ve done, until we get to know who replaces Big Sam. But we would have expected only a world class manager, like Jose Mourinho, to replace Sam for us to agree with this action.

We always liked Sam because of his vision and enthusiasm to use new techniques and sciences, and his overall knowledge of world football. Our hope was that Sam could have out club around 5th place this time next year, even though this season would not have been successful. Whether we can any better with a new manager we’ll just have to wait and see.

However, we’re also sage and old enough to know we’ll have to move on with the next manager, who’ll we’ll also support 100%.  We don’t think Sam got the chance he deserved at Newcastle, whatever happens from now on.

Last week, Allardyce described the support he had received from Mort and Newcastle owner Mike Ashley as “absolutely fantastic” from the day they arrived at St James’ Park. And no doubt Sam will be happy with the severance package they will give him, which is likely to be generous.

But business is business, and for those of us who have been in the middle of it, there is no place for emotion or sentiment in big business, none at all. So when the end came it was quick, it was clinical, and it was decisive. Chris Mort and Mike Ashley both show smiling faces to the public but make no doubt they are both very motivated business men. And they seem to have the qualities required to be really successful.

Let’s hope what happened yesterday in one step in the journey that will make Newcastle super successful. But these events never look good to the general public, that’s for sure.

Comments very welcome.


32 comments so far

  • Edd Case

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #1

    Ed – seriously, I don’t mean to be rude but what is the point of this topic?

    Can’t you just keep it simple and re-title one of the other 10 or so topics which are all on the same thing.

    One nice thread – ‘Newcatle’s Next Manager’ will do and then we can all keep to reading one thread.

    All of the thoughts you have are great points for discussion – but can’t you just pop them onto one of the threads already open?

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  • Rob Kirton

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #2

    Paul Kemsley (ex Spurs director and Ashleys mate) now on Radio 5 after speaking to Ashley last night and this morning. Saying that…

    a) Ashley wants to see good quality football and that wasn’t happening.

    b) He want to see attacking football and want to win things.

    c) He has put £250 million into the club and will put more in.

    d) Ashley is in Hong Kong at the moment.

    e) Ashley has fallen in love with the club and the city of Newcastle. The only person who needs to be given time to get things right is him (Ashley), the manager thing will be sorted.

    e) Would not comment on whether a new manager had been lined up and it was not his place to say something.

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  • James

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #3

    Hello my name is Mike Ashley and I own a £200 million Rolls Royce. I am going to hire a man I know and the fans know is capable of driving such a car.

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  • ToonKing

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #4

    We have signed the hungarian kid, Tamas Kadar.

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  • Bryan

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #5

    The talk is that the new manager will be British. As much as I disliked SA as our manager, all the British managers being linked to us are no better or worse than SA. So what was the point in sacking him now?
    The only managers that are capable of taking our club forward are foreigners, ie Morineho. But he is unable to manage in the PL until next season.
    So does that mean we will employ another manager that 95% of the fans dont want?
    This is a critical period in the new boards time at the club. Make the wrong appointment and they will be looked on as FS was. A JOKE.
    If they do not have anyone lined up, which I find hard to beleive, then appoint a caretaker manager until the end of the season then go for Morineho.

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  • Steeley

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #6

    Who gives a toss what the general public think!? Do you Ed? Really??
    We are NUFC supporters and only what happens on that pitch should count!
    The performances on the pitch were abysmal…forget was Sam COULD HAVE DONE….coulda woulda shoulda! The bosses obviously werent happy with him and give him the boot.

    Im confident that the owner and CM are savvy enough to either have already attracted, or can attract, a top man for this job!

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  • Nick Dryden

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #7

    Ed we all liked the behind the scenes advances. However, any big huge corporation should be up to spec in diet, fitness, nutrition, scouting / head hunting etc. It’s par for the course. It’s a damning indictment of the former regime that it wasn’t already in place. But all the technology and scence in the world isn’t going to help if your team can’t pass the ball 5 yards and emplys half witted goons like Barton & Smith.

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  • Hadrian

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #8

    i expect some form of statement from the club today . the timing of the dissmisal and all the speculation on the club doesnt look good and needs cut short asap .
    my moneys still on keegan btw , do i get a blue peter badge if im right?
    EDIT: Rob thats made my day cheers 🙂

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  • Toon Al

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #9

    just got a text sayin jol has been taken to the stadium in a taxi..

    might be rubbish tho

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  • ToonKing

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #10

    Stop this bull that Jose can’t manage in England??? who started this ??? a thing like that is impossible because it would deny he’s human and employment rights.

    And if were on the legal subject, “Mutual agreement ” means we don’t have to pay Sam nothing as we didn’t terminate he’s contract.

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  • ToonKing

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #11

    pls not Jol……pls

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  • Will

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #12

    You’re right about having to be ruthless in business, but they should have sacked him after the Derby home fixture. This would have allowed a new manager to come in before the transfer window and start building his team. We must remember at the start of the season Mr Mort stated that although Sam was a good manager, he was not their first choice. Personally I think that they had Arse Wenger lined up before he signed a new contract. Whether he would have come we’ll never know because he’s now committed at Arsenal. His vision iwith young players is exactly that of the current owner and chairman. Which manager now? Who knows. Hopefully none of those being touted now like Redknap, Venables, McLaren or Jol. Remember Ashley’s a business man, so he’ll already have someone in mind, but he will have to cough up big money to get them here and have a bank roll for quality players and a plan to get young players coming in for the future. Whoever it is good luck to them, cos we’ve been short of it in recent years and they’ll need it!

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  • davey

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #13

    the new manager is jimmy saville.
    eruh eruh er……..how’s about that then.

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  • Toon Al

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #14

    i dont live in newcastle anymore, but the lad who texted his dad works for a fancy taxi company, but he’s also prone to believe things alot

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  • Josh

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #15

    I think this is good move. In my opinion this is all the jews fault, they run everything, THE ALLUMINATI!!!!!

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  • Hadrian

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #16

    better not be jol , couldnt be jol with kemsley as ashleys mate , and the guy would have gotten spurs dropped this season , blame the board if u will but ramos has had the same players .

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  • Toon Al

    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #17

    ive got an exam today, its bollocks, all im gonna be able to think about is this

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  • Graham

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #18

    Toon King – the only thing that would stop Mourinho managing in england this season is a gentlemans handshake – and do you think he would honour it if the right job came along given the way he was treated by Abramovich

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  • Rob Kirton

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #19

    Hadrian : It is often assumed that Paul Helmsley was one of the guys at Spurs who wanted rid of Jol. You can read into that what you like – who really knows?

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  • Sloop Jon B

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #20

    whilst on about the ex hotspurts link- what about a venables-shearer partnership?
    Not Big Al on his own, and not Jol. Please.

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  • Steeley

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #21

    Edd Case – all the different articles are to get as many hits as possible I think! People switching between the threads every 2 mins will register a new click every time…now I get it! Ed wants to keep his figures up so he can draw in more advertising revenue….very clever Ed! Shame you’re ruining the experience for us to have a really good debate!

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #22

    i really want jol, class man, fked over by commolli at spurs.

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  • Sloop Jon B

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #23

    Mourinho could work for another prem club this season- but it would involve compo for Chelsea, and lots of it.

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  • Steeley

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #24

    I think if the compensation case for Mourinho was quite large (as I believe it was) then a legally binding contract could have been drawn up which states that as part of the deal Mourinho does not move to another English PL club this season. It is possible, but hopefully not true.

    And even in that case, I suspect that Chelsea would be quite willing to take some sort of compo to allow the deal to be broken…I doubt they see us as very much of a threat at the mo!

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  • valle

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #25

    Bryan, thats bot correct… The word is that he will have EPL exp and therefore Mourinho is still very much in the running.

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  • valle

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #26

    All u that whine about Ed making to many posts… Just dont read them ok?, how hard can it be.

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  • ObaFan2

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #27

    Exactly Sloop, it has nothing to do with human rights it has to do with the agreement with Chelsea, I have worked at places where it is written in a contract where I couldn’t work for a competitor within a specific range for 12 months. As you say compensation would be paid to Chelsea.

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  • ObaFan2

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #28

    Mutual agreement conversation:

    MA “here’s 5 million quid Sam for you to go now.”

    BSA “OK”

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  • valle

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #29
  • bowsie

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #30

    Mourinho wouldn’t consider us guys, come on.

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  • ChrisL

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #31

    I’m convinced the decision has come from Ashley, I think Mort was given no choice in the matter.

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  • ChrisL

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #32

    Maybe “going through the proper channels” means talking to Chelsea.

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