Martin Jol in Frame at Newcastle


Former Tottenham Hotspur manager Martin Jol is reported to be among the candidates to replace Sam Allardyce at Newcastle.

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Martin Jol – is he good enough for Newcastle?


But why would Newcastle think Martin Jol would be the manager to make them successful? He couldn’t do that at Tottenham and was replaced after Newcastle beat Tottenham 3-1 at St. James’ Park on 22nd October last year. Yes, we know he had Spurs in 5th place two years running, but he couldn’t take them any further after spending millions last summer.

Jol appears to be waiting for the chance to manage a big club like Newcastle, having recently turned down an interview at Fulham and the offer of managing PSV Eindhoven.

Jol was offered the Newcastle manager position two years ago and the contract was worth around £3M a season but Martrin decided to stay at Tottenham and Newcastle appointed Glenn Roeder instead on a permanent deal.

Jol enjoyed a couple of successful seasons at Tottenham and only narrowly missed out on two Champions League qualifications. However, he couldn’t take Tottenham to the next step and if Newcastle sacked Sam Allardyce surely we will be bringing in a manager with better credentials.

We would look for Jose Mourinho or Sven Eriksson, that type of manager, otherwise we should have stood by Big Sam.

What the disaster scenario will be for Newcastle fans is if Newcastle appoint a mediocre manager. We did that when we appointed Graeme Souness to replace Sir Bobby Robson and that appointment was doomed from the very beginning.

Remember also that Chris Mort and Mike Ashley, by their own admission, are not footballing people.

Comments welcome.


91 comments so far

  • goalcentre.com

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #1

    Jol is a good coach but he is also another coach then can take Newcastle Mid table and avoid relegation dog fights.
    That’s about all for Jol.

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  • Toon Al

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #2

    ive got to go to my exam now! noooo!!!

    we beter have a manager wen i get back, and his name better begin with M and end with ourinho

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  • ToonKing

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #3

    no no no no no arghhhhh bruhuhuhu pls god nohoohohohohoohohoh

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  • Neil A H

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #4

    Jol is not good enough to fire Allardyce over. If it turns out that we lost Diarra by firing Sam and replacing him with Jol than I’m going to be pissed. I was frustrated with Sam’s team choices but hearing his comments yesterday and wishing all the best for Newcastle made me feel rather guilty. He deserved more time.

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  • Hadrian

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:26 AM

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    jol wouldnt go down to well, the timing means the fans need a headturner .

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  • James

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #6

    Remember Ashley likes Spurs and saw Jol nearly relegate them – he knows he is wrong for Newcastle.

    Its just media speculation. They always have to have a name.

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  • Pete

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #7

    I want ‘arry Redknap… Jol mediocore… what about Lippi?

    Mourinho will not play attractive football… he will win but not play attractive football. Do we want that ?

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  • ObaFan2

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #8

    One dodgy manager ruled out (Redknapp) and another thrown in…. Jol. Remeber him saying we’re in a different league to his Spurs b4 the game?

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  • goalcentre.com

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #9

    Mourinho the best i guess! 🙂 Bring that cocky arrogant arse back to the EPL!

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  • RobNUFC

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #10

    seems to me like the press have no idea whatsoever. ashley and mort keeping cards close to their chests….businessmen remember. skybet odds show that no one knows, practically everyone is at long odds….though jose has dropped back to 20’s

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  • lewdavies

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #11

    If, as it looks right now, we have sacked BSA on a whim, without having someone new lined up to take over, then no manager in their right mind will take on the poisoned challice that is NUFC, knowing that they may well be sacked themselves by the end of the season.
    There is just no way ‘the special one’ will come here, he has his reputation to keep. After that who? Martin Jol will be no better than BSA. Shearer isnt ready, Keagan is finished with football and the top foreign coaches aren’t going to be interested.

    This is turning into a farce, yet again.

    I just hope something is announced today, so this charade doesn’t go on any longer.

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  • valle

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #12

    Pete… Exactly!!!… I want that, but it seems like there are many who dont. We wont play any more attacking than with Sam, yet we will properly win more, since the special one indeed seems to have something special about him… The best guy would be Hiddink, since great managers such at Lippi and Hitzfeldt would also play defensive…

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  • milner fan

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #13

    NO NO NO NO NO NO BSA was better. World class manager or no1!

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  • valle

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #14

    lewdavies… Exactly!!!… This is Fat Fred all over again, only with less money to spend

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  • Obafan

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #15

    Jol is a good manager IMO, but with all the names that I’ve already read, I would be diasppointed if he was the new manager. It would not change that much IMO…

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  • James

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #16

    Relax guys. It is the media saying it is Jol. Just like they said it was Redknapp, and before that it was Shearer. The truth is they haven’t got a clue who it is because Ashley and Mort have done it all behind the scenes and kept it low key.

    Whoever Ashley has asked, Mort will be sorting out the contract today.

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  • Obafan

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #17

    When will something be announced. Therefor nto the name of the new manager, but something about the situation.. Or am I wrong???

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  • Mac

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #18

    I don’t think they have asked anyone. I think pearson until the summer,no new signings and a relagation dog fight

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  • Barca

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #19

    Maurinho will not do wonders without a big transfer kitty. I very much doubt his skills in the transfer market of picking up gems at fair market value, even less below that. Look at the money he spent at Chelsea for some of those players. No one would even come close of paying so much for some of them – even if they were regarded world class fotballers.

    I believe Svennis would’ve been the best option but we can forget him. Why would he want to leave Man City when he has a chairman that is backing him up 100% with both support and money? It won’t happen.

    At this time, out of all realistic candidates for the post out there, I believe Jol could be the man for the job. If you disregard the poor start of the season Totteham had, which I personally think you have to blame mainly their players for (too many egos to deal with), he does have a good record and gets the players respect. Ramon in Tottenham has done a better job then Jol when he took over, but I think it’s due to the fact that people know they have to perform or else lose their spot in the team, or even facing the risk of being sold. So that’s really no surprise why they are playing better now as opposed to before.

    The truth of the matter is that Newcastle is not an elite club. The capacity of the stadium, amount of supporters & revenue does not create a GREAT club. It’s all about winning and collecting trophies at the end that makes you great. Newcastle have not done that for ages, and unless this change, we are better off to admit that we are not a great club yet but we are trying our best to become one. With a mindset like that everyone will be better off, chairman, manager, players & supporters.

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  • ObaFan2

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #20

    Mark Hughes is currently 3-1 in the betting. Again is he any better, is he proven winner (as a manager) I don’t think so.

    MA is a business man idd and would find it difficult to believe he hadn’t had someone lined up before sacking BSA.

    My fingers are crossed and hope he gets it right.

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  • Singa_toon

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #21

    I fear what might happen over the weekend. Man yoo Are gonna whip us

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #22

    Mourinio would be expensive but you get what you pay for..I would consider lippi as well.

    Martin Jol spent a fortune and was shit at spurs.

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #23

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  • rutehh8

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #24

    Doenst matter who the f**k will be the next manager… he’ll have a few decent results, be criticised and then fired within a few months. Thats the way of life at newcastle..

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #25

    ObaFan 2 – I agree and Hughes will need some time – nobody comes in and starts winning – well except Sven.

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  • ObaFan2

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #26

    BSA on sky news now.

    Having a holiday and gonna spend some of the 5 million he’s just been given. Lucky him.

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  • Midjew

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #27

    How IRONIC that sven was WELL up for the newcastle job, NOBODY WANTED HIM.

    BUT LOOK, he is doing brilliant, but in all honesty would he of had money he got from man city to buy people like petrov and elano??

    DOUBT IT.

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  • Hadrian

    Jan 10, 2008 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #28

    sorry to nag Ed 😉
    its only cos i like the site 🙂
    we better bloody make some form of statement today about our next manager .

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  • ObaFan2

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #29

    Midjew, I didn’t think Sven was too bad as England coach and would have been pleased with him at Newcastle, City believed in him and backed him with money and to think he had a year to think over what he’d do at his next job and probably had a list of targets all ready and he’s proved an instant success.

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  • micepie

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #30

    Very few managers can take a club further than 5th, with the current top 4 being so strong.
    Also, even though I don’t like Spurs they were all over some teams yet losing some freak results. So personally I do rate Jol. The main downfall might be that he’s not got an expansive personality like our best managers have had, and to an extent that Rednapp has.
    The timing of BSA’s sacking was strange and you’d think it could be for a reason (like plans are in place to appoint someone).

    Just not McClaren, and I’m not too keen on Hughes either!

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  • Pete

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #31

    HARY !!! WE NEED HARRY !

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  • AndyT

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #32

    Shearer with Keegan as his assistant.
    Think I’m stupid?
    When Keegan came to manage at Newcastle it was his first managerial job. He had a fantastic assitant in the shape of Arthur Cox – who happened to have been Keegans manager in his NUFC playing days.
    I dont think Kegan wants to manage again. I dont think any manager will want Shearer as assistant. I think Ashley wants Shearer. I think Shearer with an experienced assistant has potential.

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  • Bosck

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #33

    Barca – dont just look at what Mourinho did at Chelsea to judge him. It is far better to look at what he did with Porto on almost no budget at all. That shows the true extent of his managerial ability.

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  • Barca

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #34

    “BUT LOOK, he is doing brilliant, but in all honesty would he of had money he got from man city to buy people like petrov and elano??”

    Petrov and Elano combined cost just €1-2Million more than Smith & Barton. Which option sounds more appealing?

    In addition, players that City have signed would mot likely not have signed for a club like that unless Sven was in charge. Remember, Sven was and is very respected outside England and he has a terffic track record on a club level to prove it. Not many active manangers can match his experience and achivements.

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  • micepie

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #35

    p.s – I can imagine that – behind the scenes – Ashley was probably the one who wanted BSA sacked – I think Mort would have given him more time

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  • Bev

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #36

    OMG shearer is not the answer,and the board don’t want him or harry or martin jol. I honestly believe they wouldn’t have sacked sam at this point is they didn’t have someone lined up, I think they are just sorting out a few bits of the contract, it won’t be someone at another club at the moment.

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  • Hadrian

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #37

    odd’s on hughes are getting tighter 🙁
    honest if this isnt a fantastic appointment ashley may aswell have stuck with fat sam

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  • ObaFan2

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #38

    Lol Chronicle is going for Hughes……. I wish I could ignore all the media but it might be good for MA or Mort to make a statement, put us out our misery plz lol.

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  • Davey G

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #39

    BARCA, you talk bollox!!
    Mourinho will do nothing without a big transfer kitty eh??
    1 short word PORTO……………

    Moron!!!

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  • Midjew

    Jan 10, 2008 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #40

    Barca –

    I think you are thinking of different players.

    Elano ALONE cost 8m

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