Newcastle Seem In a Terrible Mess

The Newcastle Management have stated this morning they will take the time to appoint their new manager. After today’s humiliating defeat at Manchester United we don’t have the time to wait too long.


Chris Mort – under severe pressure to appoint a top class manager – quickly

Here is a portion of the Official Newcastle United statement from Chairman Chris Mort:

“In the process of appointing a new manager at Newcastle United, we have identified and spoken to a number of potential candidates.”

“This is a very important appointment – our first since taking control of the Club – and we will take as long as required to make sure we bring in the right person.”

“That person will be someone we believe will be able to deliver successful results and performances to accompany that.”

Here are some obvious points that are now apparent after the game today in which we were thrashed 6-0 by League Leaders and Champions Manchester United. We always have to remember that Manchester United are one of the best teams in the country, and they played near their best today – especially in the second half.

We know that’s true because some of their fans were actually cheering their team on, especially after they were 4-0 up. 😀

That was unlike their game against Birmingham when their very own manager Alex Ferguson referred to the ground as a morgue.

But onto our own much more serious problems. Here are some points we want to make about the rather serious state of affairs that now at Newcastle:

  • We don’t have time to wait for someone to take control of managing the playing side of the club. That was evident in the second half capitulation this afternoon.
  • Sacking a manager in January is a risky business because lots of managers are not available and their clubs are not too willing to let them go. It’s very disruptive at this time of the year and that’s especially true since this is the winter transfer window month.
  • We thought when Sam was sacked we had another manager all lined up to come in – but that doesn’t appear to be the case
  • Mark Hughes is not the man to come in to replace Sam Allardyce – he’s too much like Sam. Mark has done a great job with very little money at Blackburn. Isn’t that what Sam did at Bolton? It would be a ridiculous move to replace Big Sam with Mark, at this point.
  • There will be mounting pressure on Chris Mort and Mike Ashley in the comibng days and weeks. If a manager is not appointed before Wednesday evening for our game against Stoke City, which was their initial target, fans will be a little edgy on Wednesday, depending on what has evolved by then in the manager search. Heaven help things should we be defeated on Wednesday
  • Chris and Mike have lost credibility with the Newcastle fans for the club to be in this mess in the middle of January, a short 6 months since they took over. It makes Freddy Shepherd look like a reasonable Chairman.
  • We need a rapid exit from the mess the club finds itself in, and we expect the duo to be working night and day to rectify the situation they have placed the club in.

Comments are welcome.

43 comments so far

  • tommyy

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:15 PM

    Comment #1

    we need to move fast if we want to get a top class man in. Looks like Benitez will be out soonish, and they will be sure to attract the top managers over us.

  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:16 PM

    Comment #2

    Just get van Gaal ffs.

  • carl

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:17 PM

    Comment #3

    your right ed – we have not got long. we need signings in january, we need a good manager desperately. or we WILL be going into the championship playing like that

  • Edd Case

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:19 PM

    Comment #4

    If Mourinho (or another world class manager) isn’t announced as our new manager on Monday – I will turn my back on this wretched bloody club for good.

    I’ve been a fan since as far back as I can remember, which is a long time now, but this is actually the lowest I’ve felt.

    Terrible, terrible times at our club.


    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #5


  • Pete

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:22 PM

    Comment #6


  • mikey g

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:27 PM

    Comment #7

    mourinho will not come. hitzfeld has to be the next best option. there aren’t any quality british managers out there. we need to go foreign.

  • Southern_Magpie

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:30 PM

    Comment #8

    We need a savior, not just a top quality manager but someone who is has the club in their heart and would bring more to the club than tactical knowledge and player motivation etc. Two of our successful managers over the past decade have been Keegan and Robson, a legend as a toon player and a Geordie respectively.
    There has been talk of Shearer and Keegan, both immensely popular on Tyneside. One of these two, or both, would be given more time than any other manager. We’ve appointed so-called quality proven managers in the past (Souness, Gullit and Daglish) and we failed under all. Maybe the gamble of appointing a manager with no experience, like Shearer, is worth it. Just look what happened with Keegan. It is gamble but I fear the world class managers around would be too scared to damage their reputations by taking on the challenge.

  • Graeme

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #9

    I thought we played well, with comittment and passion. There is no way Man Ure were 6 goals better, despite the scorline – Ronaldo played the game of his life tonight and was superb (hate the bastard lol).

    Cant see what the rush is. I would sooner wait 6 weeks and make sure the RIGHT MAN is appointed than put another muppet like ‘Arry in the frame.

    We are in no danger of being relegated, but will probably end up in the bottom half. So what???

    This season is a right off. Lets get the best man for the job, whoever it happens to be. Use the rest of the season for him to suss out the playing and coaching staff and then use the summer window to make things happen.

    Onwards and upwards. Bring on the best!!!!

  • Hadrian

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #10

    transfer window closes soon, they need to get there man in quick .
    the lads we have here need coached and we need quality added to the squad .
    its evident pearson cant steady the ship while we have no manager .
    mort and ashley are looking like mug’s if there is no decent appointment made .

  • Rob Kirton

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #11

    Ed : The most unfair thing you have said on this blog.

    “Chris and Mike have lost credibility with the Newcastle fans for the club to be in this mess in the middle of January, a short 6 months since they took over. It makes Freddy Shepherd look like a reasonable Chairman”

    They took the club off Freddy’s hands, paid off the 100 million pound debt and have now got rid of the last of Freddy’s ridiculous appointments as manager. The only blame they can take is not sacking Allardyce earlier; For which they undoubtedly would have received even more criticism from certain quarters.

    The players on the pitch were bought by Sam Allardyce and his predecessors, and recently indoctrinated into the Sam Allardyce way of doing things. The results of their efforts on the field and morale have both hit rock bottom. AShley and Mort can not have done anything to effect that.

    The saying goes “You reap what you sow”. The farmers in this case were Freddy Shepherd and Sam Allardyce.

  • Nev

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #12

    i have disagreed with Tom_Toon in the past
    but you are spot on with that post

  • Rob Kirton

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #13

    Edd Case: trust me. There have been far worse times than this.

  • Adrian Swall

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #14

    So we didn’t have somebody lined up after all. Who will be the first to point at A or M and chant “You don’t know what you’re doing”?

  • James

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:42 PM

    Comment #15

    Unlike the rest, I actually don’t want them to rush it just because we are playing Stoke on Weds. If we get knocked out of the FA Cup it will do us a favour. For one, we couldn’t beat Arsenal in the next round, and two, we need to concentrate on the league. I would much rather Mort spends the entire week convincing a world class manager to be in place for the Bolton game next weekend.

  • witnit

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:47 PM

    Comment #16

    Check out Van Gaal’s record… can’t ignore it!

    1 x Champions League: 1994-95 (with Ajax)
    1 x Intercontinental Cup: 1994-95 (with Ajax)
    1 x UEFA Cup: 1991-92 (with Ajax)
    2 x European Supercup: 1995-96 (with Ajax), 1997-98 (with FC Barcelona)
    3 x Dutch Eredivisie: 1993-94, 1994-95, 1995-96, (with Ajax) plus in 2003-04 (as Technical Director)
    1 x Dutch Cup: 1992-93 (with Ajax)
    3 x Johan Cruijff-schaal: 1993-94, 1994-95, 1995-96 (with Ajax)
    2 x Spanish League: 1997-98, 1998-99 (with FC Barcelona)
    1 x Spanish Cup: 1997-98 (with FC Barcelona)
    1 x Rinus Michels Award (2007)

  • daiv

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:47 PM

    Comment #17

    Newcastle is run by idiots who have no plan but plenty of money which MA is keeping in his pocket. Forget this nonsense of businesmen with a plan. They cannot run a football club.To sack BFS was madness in January withoust a top class replacement lined up. The six nil was the most humiliating experience in 45 years of supporting my club. We deserve to be relegated and Asley loses hundreds of millions. We need to start again in the Championship and get rid of greedy pigs like Owen and Martins. Bollocks to them and long live the Toon. I’ll be there in the Championship (Geordie living in Essex and season ticket holder) but doubtless many of recent Keegan breed booing every week will not . Incidentally Smith is useless footballer and a disgrace tothe club. Long live Hughie Gallagher. Most of you wont’t have a clue.

  • Adrian Swall

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:53 PM

    Comment #18

    daiv. Well said. I know we have had worst times than this, but this is the most humiliaiting time I can remember.

  • carl

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:54 PM

    Comment #19

    daiv, cant you remember getting beat 7-2 at home? that was more humiliating

  • Rob Kirton

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:56 PM

    Comment #20

    daiv: “Long live Hughie Gallagher” bit of a sick thing given the way that he went especially at such a young age.

    Honestly I think we have had just as bad days in the past. It’s always the latest that just feels the worst. I think there are a few raw nerves tonight. I also suspect it wouldn’t have made any difference whether or not we had Allardyce in charge tonight or not.

    Keep on Keepin on..

  • Adrian Swall

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:56 PM

    Comment #21

    De ye ken Hughie Gallagher, a wee Scots lad. The best centre forward Newcastle ever had. If he doesnae score a goal, we’ll kick him up the hole, and send him back to Scotland in the morming.

    God. I feel better already.

  • billy

    Jan 12, 2008 at 8:59 PM

    Comment #22

    ha chill daiv you make it sound like keegan did a bad thing by upping the attendance and expectation. no one knows what happened yet to make the fat one have to go apart from the shit football. a lot of our side should be ashamed tonight but i dont think they give a f88k.

  • Obafan

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:00 PM

    Comment #23

    Graem – If this situation continues we will be in danger, really. Look at the differnece in points we had 4 weeks ago and now with teams who are under us. The gap which we created in the beginning is as good as gone and the teams beneath us are having the confidence, cause they take the points and start to win. We lose every game (today 6 in our back) and our confidence is going from low to zero!!! We need to turn this around ASAP or we will be in the relegation zone….

    We can’t wait longer to appoint a new manager, cause we need a bit of stability. Today NUFC will be in the middle of the spot, I’m sure of that…

  • Rob Kirton

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:04 PM

    Comment #24

    witnit: Van Gaal a great record though its a long time since he has done anything of great note. Not exactly the hero he once was in Dutch football. Curse of the national team manager thing.

    Ego bigger than Mourinho and that is saying something.

    Having said all of that. An improvement on what we’ve got or had recently !!

  • Zx

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #25

    Hey Daiv, you class fans into keegan breed and what are you? You are a loyal fan and “keegan breed” isn’t?

    We deserve to be relegated? What kinda loyal supporter are are you? Go bury yourself beside hughie.

  • Rob Kirton

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:09 PM

    Comment #26

    Obafan: I’m with you there. 34-35 point could see any team safe this year. Another 3 wins needed then

    We can’t beat the bottom teams and get tonked by the top ones. I still think we will fluke a couple of wins – but it may go close. Its a trajectory we’ve been on for some time now, but many don’t take notice of.

  • Greg B

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:11 PM

    Comment #27

    I actually think getting done over by Portsmouth 4-1 at home, Liverpool 3-0 at home and only getting a draw against a diabolical Sunderland side was more embarassing than today.
    At least we have the excuse that we had no manager, 4 first team regulars (Baye, Faye, Geremi and Martins ) were missing (not that it would have made much difference but its an excuse) and playing the Champions at their place.
    Rob Kirton, agree about the squad we have here being assembled in the Shepherd/ Allardyce era.
    This is why a new manager needs time, to weed out all the over rated, over paid underacheivers that we have, build a bit of confidence into those who are deemed good enough and build his own squad – this will take time, at lease 12-18 months, if we get the right man and are patient with his rebuilding I am sure better times are ahead.
    Once we accept we are nowhere near a top 4 side anymore the better, its going to take along time before we are back up with the Arsenals and Man U’s but I for one will be a part of that when it happens, I will never turn my back on Newcastle United no matter whos in charge or what division we are in – Toon for Life!

  • daiv

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:11 PM

    Comment #28

    Rob, I don’t need to chill at all. I was not around at the time and I know the circumstances of Gallagher’s death but his goals to games ratio surpasses anything Shearer/Milburn achieved and the fact that he won the Championship for us in 1927 (UNBELIEVABLY THE LAST TIME THIS SO CALLED BIG CLUB WON THE LEAGUE) belittles anything this club hads done for 50 odd years. I was born in NE lived there for many years and would rather support the crap of the 80s than this overpaid mess who do not care. Then hopefully all the disillusioned glory hunters woud f**k off and we would get three times the atmosphere in the ground with half the attendance.

  • Davegnufc

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:19 PM

    Comment #29

    How hard can it be to get Mourinho, I would just say to him “you think your the best here’s a real chance for you to show it, Newcastle United, won nowt for years,fans are the greatest, go and give them success and you’ll be talked about in the same breath as Ferguson,Shankly etc”going to any other club like the Milan’s etc he’s proving nowt but making the Toon successful he’d be able to walk across the Tyne!
    how could any who proclaims to be ‘The Chosen One’ not be tempted by that…

  • Rob Kirton

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:21 PM

    Comment #30

    daiv: I guess I was just trying to say a few of us a feeling a bit raw tonight yet again, but we know we’ll get over it. You probably top me (my first game in 73-74).

    I know what you mean about the 80’s. I was thinking today about John Anderson who now commentates for radio Newcastle. Played in some seriously crap times for the club – but never once doubted his commitment to the club. Never shirking a tackle never mind going missing in games or just appearing not to give a damn.

    Whinging fans and players who don’t give a toss about the club doesn’t make a great mix. I’ll stick by the team regardless and am willing to stick behind the current board. Don’t really know how it is going to turn out with them, but the role call of honour McKeag, Westwood, Seymour & laterly Shepherd still gives me nightmares.

  • billy

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:22 PM

    Comment #31

    glory hunters follow teams that win trophys. we won fuc* all since the year i was born .dont call any of us glory hunters!we are mags and proud of it!

  • daiv

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:29 PM

    Comment #32

    All I am saying is that I am totally disillusioned with the vastly overpaid players who do not give a flying ……. about the club…. but never the club. I would much rather support the club in a lower league and build again than support this bunch of w….s. Why should we help contribute to Owen’s £120K a week in Wales as a sicknote and many others (lets face it he’s hardly ever in NE). Clear the lot out and start again.

  • Davegnufc

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:31 PM

    Comment #33

    Rob Kirton your right in saying there has been lower times than this Bill McGarry! Richard Dinnis etc now they were desperate times! Lets just see these next few weeks thru and get behind the team…Toon till I die!!

  • Greg B

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:35 PM

    Comment #34

    Well said Billy – heard a Smog banging on today how they are biggest team in North East because they have won trophies and played in European finals, he may have a point but I’d rather never watch football again than be a Smog, or a Mackem for that matter.
    Look on the bright side, we have a magnificent stadium, are debt free, have a millionaire chairman and we are Newcastle United, lets stay United and we will get through these dark times and emerge the otherside better for the experience.
    Some of these young fans today dont know they have been born, The Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal fans – lets see how they react when they are crap!

  • Greg B

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #35

    Everyone is entitled to their oppinion obviously but in Owens defence, have we ever provided him with any quality service? I think the times we have he has more often than not scored (as he did today).
    I think the lack of support the lad gets is a sign of the squad as a whole. I have knocked Owen in the past but I would rather we were giving him 120k a week and build the squad with him included than offload him somewhere else for him to come back and haunt us with a team who can provide him with decent crosses and through balls.

  • daiv

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #36

    I apologize if you were one of the 10 thousand supporting the club in the 80s. Otherwise you are a recent supporter recruited to the club under the great Keegan era. If you are are Keegan recruit, I hope you are still supporting the club in 40 yeras time when I will not be around. Long live the Toon. I was there in 1963 with names which will nothing to you and I missed 1969 as I was in hospital but I’m still here travelling up the A1. I’m 51 and seen no domestic trophies but here’s hoping for a cup win. You are aware that without an Ashley (Abranmovitch) opening his wallet we have no chance in the next lifetime of winning the league aren’;t you? But carry on supporting the |Toon like me. Without the cash, we have as much chance of winning the league as… Gillingham andt the like. But winning does not matter. The Toon matters.

  • billy

    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:51 PM

    Comment #37

    daiv i was born in consett in 69 been going since i was 12 keegan playing and managing have been the best years . live down south now and will always support the mags as will my kids no matter what.

  • Bobby Ollox

    Jan 12, 2008 at 10:21 PM

    Comment #38

    Billy got it absolutely spot on – for us it is not about winning trophies as much as it is about playing football that makes you proud to support the team.
    Yes we need to give a manager time to achieve , but we need to be convinced that he is using that time to head in the right direction – Sam clearly wasnt.
    When I first heard the clamour for a Shearer-Keegan partnership I thought it was pure sentimentalism – after tonight I’m not sure – i think I would be prepared to give them a couple of years, and maybe even a drop into the championship for them to put together a team, a style and a club that made us one of the most admired clubs in europe

  • valle

    Jan 12, 2008 at 10:42 PM

    Comment #39

    Before all this happened, i had high hopes with MA and CM, but now im not sure we’re much better off than with Fat Fred… Like with the manager, they will need time to prove themsleves ofc, and they really need to get this appointment right and then BACK THE FREAKIN MANAGER FOR 3+ YEARS!!!

  • valle

    Jan 12, 2008 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #40

    Daiv… Anyone who joined in the Keegan years and are still here deserves as much recognition as any other fan… Watching Dalglish, Souness, Gullitt and Roeder wasnt no picknick


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