Houllier The Dark Horse at Newcastle


Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley has Gerard Houllier as one of the managers on his candidate list, to take over the reigns at Newcastle United. We should know within the next 24 hours if Gerard is high on the list.

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Gerard Houllier – seems to tick all the boxes for Newcastle

Gerard Houllier is currently at the French Football Federation (FFF) as their technical director, and would be free to join Newcastle United if they wanted him. Mike has also been told by the FFF they would not stand in his way if Gerard Houllier is the man Mike wants as Newcastle manager.

FFF president Jean-Pierre Escalette told the Daily Express today:

“I would not stand in Gerard’s way if there was something else he wanted to do. I am not surprised he gets offers,”

“He turned one or two down to rejoin us and they were better financially than we could offer him.”

The former Liverpool and Lyon manager has emerged as one of the favorites for the Newcastle post in the last 48 hours, and is currently 4th in the betting behind Kevin Keegan, Mark Hughes and Alan Shearer – at William Hill’s sports betting.

Gerard has had very good records at his last two clubs, Liverpool and Lyon, but one caution has to be his health. He did have some heart problems when he was at Liverpool, and presumably Ashley would need to be ensured Gerard’s health was good enough for the job. The Newcastle manager position is a strain on any manager’s heart, let’s be clear about that.

Gerard’s record at Liverpool, which he started as joint manager with Roy Evans in 1998 and ended in 2004 was as follows:

Played Won Lost Drawn
291 148 74 69

He won the League Cup twice, the FA Cup, the UEFA Cup and the UEFA Super Cup, while at Liverpool for 6 years, and had a 51% winning record.

The time is now coming when we should get some indication of who is at the top of Mike Ashley’s list of candidates, and we would hope to get some clues today. 😀

But right now everybody is just waiting on Newcastle making their move.
Comments welcome.


75 comments so far

  • Mac

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #1

    Yeah get him in. His record speaks for itself. He will offer stability,he will make us a eurpean side(given time). He will be good in the tranfer market,he will know all about the young French up and coming stars that have served Wenger so well in the past. We need him in today,we need to back him and we need to support our team

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #2

    Mac – well said!

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  • andy4kin

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #3

    First post…sweet…:P It sounds good to me.He did very good job for pool.

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  • John

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #4

    Hear hear Mac

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  • millepede

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #5

    the odds of getting mourinho on sky bet are the same as getting glenn hoddle – lol

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  • BrettToon

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #6

    Agreed.. like the whole dark horse thing. Problem with getting Keegan and Shearer is that it’s kind of an act of desperation but what we really need is a very good manager with bags of experience. Keegan bottled it last time and we need someone to be strong! Also i don’t think there is anyway of us getting Mourinho etc and Keegan and Shearer wouldn’t work together. So its between Hughes and Houllier!!

    Ummm… Houllier me thinks!!

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  • James

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #7

    He will waste millions on crap players. He did at Liverpool and got sacked for it. He sold Lyon’s best players and replaced them with worse players. He thinks Cacapa is a good defender.

    I will utterly despair if the job goes to him.

    However I have heard numerous times from people claiming to have the inside track at Newcastle and they reckon Houllier as an option was dismissed earlier on because Ashley doesn’t want him.

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  • BrettToon

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #8

    Wish the decision would just be made.. All this suspense is killing me!!

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #9

    BrettToon – me too 😀

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  • will

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #10

    If Houllier joins, thats it for me. I’m finished with the club.

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  • James

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #11

    will – i totally agree with you.

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  • BrettToon

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #12

    Shut up Will and James.. at Liverpool he won plenty.. I’d settle with one Carling Cup!! We need unity lads not things like ‘ I’ll finish with the club’. Thats support!!!!!!

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  • James

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #13

    I heard yesterday that the reason the annoucement is taking so long is because they have been in talks with one man for a week and have lots to sort out before he agrees to take the job. A big name in European football. No idea if this is true but it would certainly make sense.

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  • James

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #14

    BrettToon – go and ask a Liverpool fan what they think of Houllier coming back to their club – then you’ll understand why we don’t want him.

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  • millepede

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #15

    lol that is probably houllier

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  • Midjew

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #16

    WHY??

    What is wrong with houllier??

    He did great at liverpool?

    Be opened minded he is better than sam alardyce AND redknapp, has proven track record

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  • Midjew

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #17

    James – It doesnt matter about what liverpool fans want, they are SLIGHTLY better than us, with SEVERAL WORLD CLASS players, cant REALLY COMPARE can we?

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  • nomis_jade

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #18

    I wouldnt be too sad if houllier came. And to be honest i wouldnt mind hughes either, but thats partly cos my housem8 is a bburn supporter. Everyone will probably chastise me for this but how is chris coleman doing over at sociedad? Im just wondering thats all. Shearer wont come and niether will kk. Could we get scolari or mourinho? hope so!

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  • Mac

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #19

    Will,James what is your problem with him?? He plays decent football,he consistently took Liverpool into a European spot he won 6 trophies. Newcastle haven’t won a trophy since before my Mam was born. Yes he has had some stinkers in the Transfer market but hasn’t every manager out there. Ferguson an Man u,anyone remember Veron and some 28 million,Murinio and Shevchenco,Benitez and Sissoko o and that uselss vorinin. So for me as it stands Houlier can offer stability,consistincy an attacking game of football based around a solid defence. Lets get him and get him now before he thinks why would I want to go to NUFC we’re not very good at the minute

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  • James

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #20

    This is what is written about Houllier on Wikipedia :

    A lack of success in later seasons when Liverpool struggled to qualify for the Champions League despite very substantial investment in players, coupled with what was perceived as negative one-dimensional tactics and unattractive football, together with a poor youth policy resulted in Houllier being sacked.

    Now tell me you want that at SJP.

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  • Punk Skunk

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #21

    Sheeesh, we sit thru sourpuss & Roadent & some of us don’t want a proven successful coach-Der!..
    …Not sayin’ i’m totally for Houllier, but he’s a damn sight better bet than igor redpap, isn’t he?..
    …Howay the Lads!..

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  • hadrian

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #22

    honest if i have to listen to that frog after each match ill go mad .
    i also put ALOT of his achivements down to those around him at liverpool , and when he was by himself at the end he got sacked , doesnt tell you something?
    lyon had already been built and he walked into a fantastic team and setup , in a league just like the SPL , where lyon like celtic and rangers have more chance of winning it that not .

    he also tried to sign joey barton and alan smith for the robbing bstards with curly wigs n shell suits .

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  • Mac

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #23

    James to be honest yes i would want that to see that. I like to see us struggle and just miss out on a champions league spot instead of us looking over our shoulders at the Mackems and the relagation dog fight that’s going on just 6 points below us

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  • Neil

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #24

    Lets put to bed this thing about Keegan bottling it or leaving us in the sh!t etc. What actually happened, in a nutshell, is that he didn’t like the way the club was going (I.e being floated) and how he’d be undermined in his eyes regarding transfers by people who were only interested in making money.
    For the record Keegan is not my first choice but a few people on these boards seem to be under the same impression as the london papers which is never a good thing. I think the only British manager I would want at NUFC is one we’d never get in Ferguson so we must look abroad and follow other clubs that have enjoyed success in our league. I would love it sorted out quickly but if it takes time to get a TOP CLASS manager in then so be it. Mourinho, Hitzfeld (Although wouldn’t arrive until season has ended), Houllier, Van Gaal or a few others will all be better than anything we’ve had since Bobby and will all be better than the t0ssa that is Nigel Pearson. Hopefully he, and even Terry Mac (Our 150k per year employee who only ever seems to play 5-a-side and tell subs they’re coming on) will be sent packing. We have a lot of clingers on in the club especially after Allardyce came in.

    UP THE TOON.

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  • Canuck

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #25

    Here here to BrettToon!!! What is needed right now is for supporters to actually be supportive and by starting off so negative is destructive. I personally thought that hiring SA was a big mistake from the beginning (and he should have been fired sooner), but I tried to be supportive even though he seemed to be taking the team a direction I did not like. Please give whoever is hired a chance!!!

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  • Stami

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #26

    will and james…and you call yourselves supporters… come on, you really think he will run this club into the ground after what he did with his last 2 clubs? get a clue! i think he will be great! may very well be the man to end the Cup drought! Although my heart really wishes that Shearer would be the man to do that…:)

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  • smc894

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #27

    Totally agree with you Mac. James how about you quit now if you have no faith in the team go support chelsea they seem more your style.

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  • mark

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #28

    His record is immense, really good, but, Bruno Cheyrou, Florent Sinama Pongolle? Terrible. However, Hyppia was a great buy, we may aswell get him in, best option in my opinion.

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  • hadrian

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #29

    If its not someone who the majority of fans want , we are not doing the person comming in any favors , it will be an uphill struggle from the start .
    has tobe a worldclass manager or someone the ‘majority’ of fans are asking for .

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  • James

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #30

    Just remember what I said when you start booing Houllier.

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  • Pete

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #31

    I have to support Will and James partially on this one, I have several close friends who support Liverpool, and they were certainly happy to see the back of him.
    With that said, he has proven that he can win titles, and he is experienced. It might be better than the other options.

    Regardless, I’ll support whatever decision the board makes, I just want some clarification sooner rather than later. We’re suffering without a manager at the moment

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  • obafemimartins

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #32

    i am open minded about who gets the job if they deliver what we want. we should get behind the manager and support even if it takes a few years. the toon are so low there only way we can go is up. we havea rich owner and with a good manager in place newcastle will get back to where they should be.

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  • Black and White Blood

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #33

    Is this not the man that dropped Genola from the French team, publicly accusing him for the failure of the French team to qualify to the world cup – Yep, what a manager, no man management skills whatsoever. Please God no – Keegan is the only man to stir passion on Tyneside..!

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  • Midjew

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #34
  • Jon

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #35

    Houllier is definitely not the right man for Newcastle. The worst manager Liverpool ever had.

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  • Edd Case

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #36

    I just hope that whoever the new manager is in place soon, this is getting rather boring now.

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  • b3v

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #37

    sorry black and white blood but passion does not win trophies or win that many games, unfortunately its tactics, money and names that win things. We have the money, need a world class manager for tactics (a bit of passion too if you like 😉 ) and the attraction of some quality players.

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  • Kevin Hann

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #38

    Wow, 51%! Wait, that’s at Liverpool. I guess we need to compare it to Arsenal’s and Man Utd’s record then, not ours… How can you manipulate facts this way, Ed? Compare the base and the transfer fees spent over the time by Houllier and Redknapp/Allardyce and then we might get some realistic data. Bare numbers are so deceiving…
    I don’t think Gerard is a good buyer. You say he knows the french talent pool well, but can we trust his judgement? Check out who he brought in Liverpool – Cheyrou, Diouf, Cisse, Pongolle, Le Tallec, failed to keep Anelka… don’t tell me that’s impressive knowledge. Also look at the money he paid for them – if he spends the same amount for the same players here, we will crucify him. Getting one good player out of 4 or 5 on 10+ mil average price is not acceptable. It is so ridiculous to say Keegan failed us when Houllier wasted the same lead when on charge of Liverpool and it happened just a few years ago! By the way to all the folks who say Kevin was a failure at Fulham or Man City what the hell do you expect, make them title contenders? He turned the fortunes to every club he has managed, and did it instantly. Not just us. Fulham. Man City – and he left them 2 seasons ago. Yeah, modern football has changed so much over the past 2 years, so he has no knowledge of it… Do you really believe this? You are worried he would have trouble attracting players – but he snapped Anelka at a club with NO reputation. He also discovered Sibierski for the Premiership and I still think it was a major loss we let him go to Wigan. Those are the exact smart transfers we need NOW, this month, not several inflated french may-be-stars. Sincerely, do you disagree with these statements, Ed, and anyone else? Maybe you disagree with Keegan or Houllier for various reasons and personal judgement, and that’s ok, but can you deny what we do and don’t need?

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  • chennai toon

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #39

    james………
    then who is ur choice….if u dont want houllier

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  • James

    Jan 15, 2008 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #40

    Hey Jon, Black & White Blood, and Pete, thanks for backing up my comments about Houllier. It’s good to see people on here with memories of the mess he put Liverpool in.

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