Observations On the Arsenal Defeat Tonight

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Here are some observations on our defeat tonight against Arsenal at the Emirates.

  • We shouldn’t panic because our last 2 games were against Arsenal – and they are one of the best teams in the country – and we didn’t really expect to get anything out of either game.
  • We actually missed Enrique tonight, because N’Zogbia had to play back in defense at left back
  • Joey Barton came on after 57 minutes for Rozehnal and the team seemed to flow a lot easier – and we wouldn’t be surprised if Keegan plays Barton from the start against Middlesbrough – which is now becoming a crucial game for us. However, Emre will also be available for the game on Sunday.
  • The defense played quite well under the circumstances, and the Arsenal goals were good ones. Taylor and Cacapa are playing solidly in central defense and Stephen Carr is actually playing surprisingly well and made some good clearances tonight. He’s not our favorite player but give the lad some credit tonight. 😀
  • We still lack creativity and drive in midfield, but now Emre will be available for Sunday, having now served his 3 match ban, and we expect Keegan to use him to full advantage on Sunday, when we have to attack Middlesbrough from the very first whistle.
  • Smith and Owen up front both worked hard tonight, and didn’t have many chances, but we’re not sure Smith can score enough goals up front or is effective enough. We would probably prefer Viduka or even Ameobi to start on Sunday, with Michael Owen.
  • The lads need the full support of the Newcastle fans on Sunday. We are playing better football than under Big Sam – even in defense – but playing Arsenal at the Emirates twice in Keegan’s first 3 games in charge is hardly easy – and it certainly hasn’t been.
  • Kevin Keegan has to work on the confidence of the players as much as anything for Sunday’s game. We will need some players to step up in that game. A win will certainly relieve the anxiety creeping in on Tyne-side right now, in what has been a disastrous season for us, let’s be honest.
  • N’Zogbia picked up his 5th booking of the season, which means he will miss the trip to Aston Villa, but will be available for Sunday’s game against Middlesbrough.
  • We should pretend the season starts anew for us on Sunday, and see how many points we can collect through the end of the season. But the confidence of our players is going to be crucial for the next few games – that’s for sure.

It’s almost certain now, that for the second season in succession, we will not qualify for any European competition.

Comments and opinions always welcome.

50 comments so far

  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:27 PM

    Comment #1

    fkin wall fkin virginity fkin fk!

    we’re going down down down, du du

  • iain

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM

    Comment #2

    the problem is with keegan saying the players told him we needed signings shows the current lot dont trust each other, meaning keegan can motivate all he wants and coach better football.

    but we need players badly and thats why i though he was brought in now, to start that rebuilding with a couple of no expense spared signings.

    a lb and a mf player b4 the window closes would make me very happy.

    good or not in some peoples eyes we missed enrique tonite becuase we have noone else that even comes close to being a pl standard lb.

  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #3

    keegan also said the others day:

    ‘we arent lcking creativity we ae lacking confidence’ – what a fkin joke!

  • indian toon

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:36 PM

    Comment #4

    we badly missed emre and creativity. our back four are crap. our midfield is non existent

  • kagthemag

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:36 PM

    Comment #5

    we played well in bursts, I just cant see where the creative play is coming from. Let’s keep our hopes up for sunday & as Ed says it really starts then.

    Carr did play reasonably well, however beye first on the team sheet for me.

    all in all 7/10 for the performance. flaminis goal was a cracker, their third was offside, butt was unlucky with his free kick & owen was onside when ajudged to be off. No luck i’m afraid a fairer result would have been 2:1

  • sy

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:37 PM

    Comment #6

    10 points to safety I reckon, just by the skin of teeth…….The big worry is that at this rate I dont know where they are going to come from.

  • ToonKing

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM

    Comment #7

    i’ve got nothing to comment.

  • Taiwan Toon

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:39 PM

    Comment #8

    Don’t think we’ll go down but yes we need to work very hard if we wanna to get a place in Europe the season after next.

    I don’t really think Taylor had a good game. He made some mistakes that could easily turned to be goals for Arsenal tonight. Besides, we should not blame Rozy too much as he is still quite new to EPL and DM is not his prefered position imo.

    Regarding the brighter side, I’m not a fan of Owne’s, but he did play well and worked very hard tonight IMO.

    Have faith, we will be okay!

  • cooldj

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:39 PM

    Comment #9

    guys this whole wall virginity is getting boring…

  • Gooderz

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:39 PM

    Comment #10

    At least we are losing to good goals, and not the Brambles we saw previously.

    What we really need is Emre back in now his ban has ended to pick a pass, either allowing for a crossing opportunity or threading a ball through for Owen. Failing that, if Zog could recreate his performance against Stoke then we’d also be quids in this weekend.

  • kagthemag

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:39 PM

    Comment #11

    indian tom taylor isnt crap!! Capaca is lacking confidence & will be good, zog was out of position. I think flamini is outstanding, it would be wrong to compare butt with flamini. He battled hard but butt will not create anything unlike flamini

  • Mac

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #12

    Stop panicing,yeah we’re not great but there’s an awful lot worse below us. I still think we’ll fininsh in the top 10. We have been beaten twice by the best team in the country,so what. We’re getting Barton back in the nezt few weeks we’re gonna have our African boys back and who knows maybe 1 or 2 signings by thursday. Loook the team isn’t gonna be any worse than it is now,

  • ToonKing

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM

    Comment #13

    agree with Mac, no way in hell will we go down and i too believe we will be top 10 by the end of this campaign.

  • Hadrian

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:45 PM

    Comment #14

    derby and fulham are going down , there is not a chance we are going tobe the third team to join them .


    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:48 PM

    Comment #15

    surely you must have all realised we were going to lose tonight, the posts pre and after match is laughable

  • daiv

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM

    Comment #16

    Ed what are you saying when you are not sure Smith can score enough goals? He has not scored a goal in 25 games. He scored 4 in seven years before that… the majority of the time with Manure who cannot help creating chances. The guy is clueless and stop being defensive about him becaise he wears black and white. He earns £60K a week and produces nothing. Its that simple and we all need to be honest about some of our players( greedy lazy or useless bastards). Lets then look at the management tean for buying them!!

  • Ben

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM

    Comment #17

    Petition-Ban Negative toon supporters from using the website .eg TOM TOON!

  • Mac

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:55 PM

    Comment #18

    Thanks ToonKing. If anything is gonna come from tonight it is gonna shock king Kev into investing in the Transfer market and i would definately start with Barnes. I know we only have a very short time left but we can get a few players in,believe me

  • colonel callan

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #19

    Drop Given good shot stopper but does not command his area far too short for a pl goalkeeper.

  • daiv

    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #20

    No do not ban negative comments if they are well argued. I think Kevin will get it right but at a huge cost. Nobody can think that this is a good NUFC team. And I/we should be allowed to say so. What do you want me to say… great team and great result or we were just unlucky because we are already 30 points behind Gooners who are actually a great team and one I wish we had. we are rubbish. How many of our team would get in |Gooners first 11. NONE.

  • Arsenal John

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:01 PM

    Comment #21

    I have not come to gloat but you are on our newsnow website so i read this.

    why are you so down you played a good game tonight and was pressing us really well.

    if you can perform like that till the end of the season you will be nowhere near the bottom.

    the score lined flattered us a little i never saw the offiside because i was at the other end of the stadium (no im not wenger in disguise) but all the newcastle players ran to the linesman so there might of been something there.

    Good luck Lads

  • ToonKing

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:01 PM

    Comment #22

    well daiv i believe that actually a lot of our players………………………….ah no, our lot would be dropped from the Arsenal reserves……….

    But hope dies last…….. i have a funny little feeling in my toes that we will crash the mackums…………..
    *smacks dog on the head* hey Spike stop licking my feet you dog…………..

  • Jon

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:01 PM

    Comment #23

    Taylor marks his men well but his passing sucks it doesn’t look natural when he passes the ball its like he’s uncomfortable. Rozehnal has the same problem with the passing. They don’t know how to kick a ball.

  • SuperShearer

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:03 PM

    Comment #24

    Guys did anyone expect us to go away to the top of the league side and win? I didn’t I would have been happy with a draw. Now Boro are a different proposition and we must win it.

  • subz

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:09 PM

    Comment #25

    If we get no 1 else.. We must get a CM as we will not win with Butt in there. Fair play he battles, But it’s not the bloody Som… I agree with Emre and Barton in the Middle. I can’t say that he deserves to play mind, but we are in deep shit, so, ball’s to it and the sodding cockenknee press SCUMBAGS!!!!!
    Smith should not start, EVER!!!! Give Carrol a go he’s young and hungry, and could not possibly be any worse!!

  • Punk Skunk

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #26

    Aye, Owen & Carroll up top & Barton & Emre in the middle, please, ta!..

  • Mac

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:15 PM

    Comment #27

    I agree now. When Smith first came to Newcastle i thought good buy ,however now i have seen him we should judt get rid he truley is an awful player and as for Butt he is even worse. I would play Barton and Emre in the middle of the park,i still think Barnes would be a good bu for us though

  • daiv

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:16 PM

    Comment #28

    Kevin has to turn this around in next six months ( I think he will) or he’ ll be on his toes. He can’t take too much negativity and he has not started well. No goals in 3 games. Not what we expected…any signings?

  • Digital_Soul

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:16 PM

    Comment #29

    Hopefully we will have an overhaul in the summer, preferably with Smith the first one out.

    Was just thinking before, and I’m still convinced the start of this entire predicament we are in, can be traced all the way back to one event, the sale of Nolberto Solano to Aston Villa. Not particularly relevant but just thought it crazy that one minor event could cause such a downward turn.

    Anyway enough hindsight, never expected anything against Arsenal really but if we don’t get 3 points against a poor Boro side its then we should perhaps begin to worry. I can’t see us losing to them though.

  • Warwick Hunt

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:19 PM

    Comment #30

    What do you expect after what we have been left with after BSA? Confidence is shot in our team, I’m sick of this pessimism about NUFC since KK took over (4 Games FFS), it’ll take sometime for him to reinstall the confidence that has been ripped out of our players.
    Lets look at it this way, we have played Arsenal twice in a week and played some decent football. Two weeks ago we would have been playing them once (because we would have been beaton by Stoke) and I’m as sure as that I have a hole in my arse that we would have been hammered by Arsenal without even having a pop at goal.
    Get fookin real, we are moving forward, not this season or maybe not even the next one but we are moving forward.
    Our club has needed an overhaul for a long, long time and I don’t just mean the players, we are getting that now. Our new Owner and Chairman are no fools they will do good for our club, whether it be for profit or pleasure. MA didn’t win his money on the lottery, he earned it by being a very good businessman and football is a business.
    They wanted football people on the board because they know nowt about footy, good on them. I have never liked Wise but hey, if he does a good job then I’m not bothered. A person should be judged on what a good job he does, not on whether I or you like him.

  • James

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:23 PM

    Comment #31

    When we beat Boro at the weekend everyone will forget this negativity tonight.

    I wasn’t surprised at all by what I saw. Fat Sam bought a lot of useless players to add to those we already had. There was one TV shot of Carr, Butt and Smith hurling abuse at the ref, and I thought what chance do we have with those 3 talentless championship players in the team.

    Stop getting depressed people. We got Keegan back and next season will be very different from this. Lots of talent and attacking play.

  • Tripp

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:41 PM

    Comment #32

    James, I agree. I don’t know what people expected, really. I’d have been shocked (pleasantly, mind you) if we drew either game. I’m disappointed we didn’t score, that’s really all I wanted.

    We were beaten by pace (indirectly) tonight.

  • Marguerite

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #33

    Warwick Hunt – Well said, I agree completely. As you rightly point out, the whole of our team’s confidence is shot to pieces. Realistically we could expect nothing more from these last two games. The trouble was when BSA had us playing that ultra defensive way against the likes of Derby, Wigan etc and valuable points were wasted.

    However, a couple of wins will do us all good, hopefully starting with the smogs.

    This season is not going to be pretty, but the club is making a concerted effort to move us forward so more of that dreaded word PATIENCE is required.

  • Punk Skunk

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:43 PM

    Comment #34

    Bang on Warwick hunt, with ya’ all the way bro!..
    Bollox to the pessimists!..
    …Howay the Lads!..

  • James

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:47 PM

    Comment #35

    People giving Keegan stick should be shot. What manager taking over a club in Jan could handle back to back games at Arsenal in the space of 4 days with 5 players missing?

  • Phil,Gosforth

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #36

    Can’t complain about good goals,expected a tough game.
    One thing I will say is that we would be better situated in the league if this is how we were playing at the start of the season.
    Few big buys in the summer and we will be fine.A lot of big buys and we’ll have a go at anyone.
    Europe next season for sure I think 😀

  • Punk Skunk

    Jan 29, 2008 at 11:55 PM

    Comment #37

    Anyone giving KK shit this soon can only be descibed as a friggen ‘glory hunter’!..He’s NOT gonna turn this club around over night OR on his own!..& yet again more shite ref decisions!..
    …Also, goin’ off track a little- how come arsenal players fight on the pitch, nowt happens…Fergie the red-nosed wanker gives the finger to the reading crowd, nowt happens- strange!..

  • Tod_MKD

    Jan 30, 2008 at 12:03 AM

    Comment #38

    Very bad game! Under Keegan we can’t score goal, we have made only 2 chances in 3 matches! The team looks worse and worse. If you ask me only Milner deserve his place in starting line up! Taylor and Cacapa good… maybe you’ve watcha another match. Cacapa has made so many mistakes. He is old, he is not our future! How can midfield be creative with such a players like Nicky But or David Rozenhal! They can’t pass the ball 3 metres away from them! I really don’t understand what’s the matter with Damien Duff. He has quality, technique, pace but he can’t do well. Our striking force is bad! I need is time for Andy Caroll to step in!

  • Leo*

    Jan 30, 2008 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #39

    enrique beye and faye, only real great signings sam made, although rozehnal will turn out to be a good signing i think.

    we sorely missed jose today. maybe kev will realise we need another left back, if only for cover, maybe a loan move

  • Ausgeordie

    Jan 30, 2008 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #40

    We were not going to win them but two three nil drumming sucks balls. No service to strikers and they are not doing enough one touch striking. Too much time spent on the ball too many touches not enough quality. C’mon the doomsayers you can suck my fat ones


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