Newcastle Wont Increase Giles Bid – Why Not?


Newcastle supposedly bid £2M plus incentives to Derby County for their midfielder Giles Barnes, and were turned down, earlier this week.

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Giles Barnes – no increased bid from Newcastle

We now understand Paul Jewell, Derby’s manager would accept £3M for Barnes plus incentives, but Newcastle have told him they will not raise their bid.

Why not ? It’s not like we don’t have the money, and the 19 year-old looks a very good player who can only improve as he gets more games in the Premier league. He looks just the type of player to play Keegan’s attacking style from midfield.

Derby manager Paul Jewell has said that Newcastle are not prepared to increase their bid for Giles Barnes, as he said yesterday:

“They said they wouldn’t be coming back with more than they’ve offered – which I’m pleased to hear.”

Jewell also confirmed that a verbal offer from Newcastle had earlier been rejected – and insisted the midfielder would be going nowhere unless Derby County’s valuation was met.

So it doesn’t look now like Giles Barnes will be arriving on Tyne-side today – and we think he would be a good acquisition for the club. That’s disappointing, to say the least.

We just don’t like the idea of all our new players coming in during the summer, because that’s exactly what happened last year, with bad consequences. We think if we could have brought 2-3 players in this month, they would have had time to settle down before next season – no chance of that now.

What do you think?

Comments very welcome.


67 comments so far

  • Andy4kin

    Jan 31, 2008 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #1

    First post!

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  • Nev

    Jan 31, 2008 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #2

    we still got 14 hours to hope we will increase are offer lol

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  • Southside Jordy

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #3

    Mike dig deep you plonker he be well worth the money!!

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  • yongMalaysia

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #4

    3mill is a good bargain, lets go and get him…

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  • JamJamJam

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #5

    I live in Derby and most Derby fans would snap our hands off for £3million+ for Barnes … he’s overrated and thinks he’s a lot better than he actually is
    I wouldn’t be too disappointed if we got him, but certainly not worth losing any sleep over if we don’t, there will be far better players for us to get in the summer

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  • Nev

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #6

    top story on SSN …

    N’ZOGBIA TO SPURS !!!

    I BLOOD HOPE NOT !!

    says Zogs wants to leave for “personal reasons”

    hope this is just over the top media BS

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  • toon1978

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #7

    Unbelievable to say the least, IMO Barnes is worth 4 million i thought Mr Ashley had the funds available yet we wont stump up that extra to get this player. Makes me wonder if Newcastle want to sign anybody. It looks to me like Ashley wants all these 16,17 year old players in from all over the world for very little money,wants to make them into top players and SELL them on asa profit, thats what it looks like to me.

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  • toon1978

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #8

    How many players to Spurs want for god sake, but if N’Zogbia wants to leave let him leave. No good to us if he aint happy.

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  • Steve G

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #9

    Where is it written that Zogbia is on his way to Spurs? Hopefully 10m then, he’s overrated!

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  • sparetheman

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #10

    N’Zogbia is good to us even if he is unhappy. He’s been our best player all season. I will be massively disappointed if he goes.

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  • joe

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #11

    barnes isn’t worth the money that Derby want. We were only gnna get 2.5 million for MIlner remember? I knw who i’d rather have.

    Anyway, N’Zogbia hasn’t been our best player at all. Butt has been on a diferent level to everyone els for 18 months now.

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  • sparetheman

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #12

    I really hope you’re kidding Joe.

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  • Hammy

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #13

    Different Level? you Nicky Butt joe?

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  • toon1978

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #14

    I will admit that i would be devastated if N’Zogbia left,if he does leave then it shows how much of a joke our club has become.

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  • Jamie

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #15

    Bit depressed to be honest regarding the lack of transfer activity! its going to be a shite end to the season by the looks of it, Yeah we have our quality players coming back from Africa, but we need to strengthen other areas.

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  • J

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #16

    Joe – ARE YOU NUTS??

    BUTT IS CRAP!!!!!!!!

    Him and smith are both not worth having. butt gives away the ball ALL the time and never passes to OUR team.

    OH and HOW annoying why havent we got anyone, who said we dont need players cos they are STUPID!!!!

    I really hope summer is different.

    and WHERE does it say N’Zogbia wants to move to spurs?????

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  • Nev

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #17

    just found this …

    http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=76666

    us going for Kevin Prince Boateng … plays fors Spurs and was player of the year in Germany last year i think

    attacking midfeilder , seems to me the kind of player we need

    part ex with zogbia on the cards ?

    ALSO …

    http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premiership/newcastle/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/08/01/30/SOCCER_Newcastle_Maradona.html&TEAMHD=newcastle&DIV=prem&TEAM=NEWCASTLE&RH=Newcastle&PREV_SEASON=

    players meeting Maradona after Arsenal game

    i herd he was at Chelsea the other day aswell

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  • mark

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #18

    Butt has been our best player like.

    NZogbia can go, he just runs into trouble, head down and run, thats all he does then OOF, over hit cross, OOF rugby shot over the bar by 5miles, somebody should tell him we need points, but we arent going to get them that way.

    Barnsey, lets get him in ffs, 3mil! come on ashley you fat tight f’in b@st@Rd

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  • Obafan

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #19

    N’Zogbia to Spurs; I hope this another rumor. I really don’t know what to think anymore.

    On the one hand we need time to rebuild the club.
    But on the other hand the offers made (for Barnes) are a bid ridiculous and it seems like the board or KK do not want the player that much. Then I ask myself the question if they don’t want him that badly why make an offer which you know will not be accepted.

    Strang, strange, strange, …

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  • mark

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #20

    the zog story is lies anyway

    12 days ago…

    http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=74468

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  • Nev

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #21

    J – doesnt say anywere lol …. just on SSN as their top story

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  • SteveM

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #22

    I believe its a negotiation tactic – if clubs believe we will not up our bids – they will not try to take advantage of newcastle’s wealth – refusing to up our bids now on players could lead to massive savings in the summer – when if we bring big players in the 20-30million mark we wont be paying 30-40million for them – it makes sense in the long run to have a reputation for not paying inflated prices for players

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  • ELFER

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #23

    N’Zogbia is nonsense, he loves the chlub and the fans and so we do. I understand his frustration playing as LB – but this is the fault of the transfers, we desperately needed a second LB backup during january window!!!

    Nevertheless, I think it is best to not hurry and take time on evaluation who should join our KK revolution in january!

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  • J

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #24

    WELL N’Zogbia is NOT leaving.

    Keegan is very honest and wil say how things are…

    He said only YESTERDAY

    That NO ONE was leaving AT ALL he needs everyone.

    Although if we loose nzogbia and get berbatov i dont mind ha ha

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  • toon1978

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #25

    Nev theres nowt on SSN web site about it. You winding us up 😉

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  • Hammy

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #26

    Zog is one of the few players we have that has match winning ability….however I think he is a bit of an odd-ball between the ears wise and relies heavily on senior players for comfort and support.
    He just needs a big fookin’ cuddle like.

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  • Davey G

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #27

    For Sky sports news see Pandev to toon, berbatov t toon, Descahmps to toon………….need i go on.
    KK has stated it would be suicide to let anyone go in this transfer window!!!
    What personal problems would a 20 year old lad have that would make him want to move to London??
    Why not off to France??

    If he doesnt want to be here, he should come clean, forget the personal problems sh*te and just go.

    i dont forget that easily and can still remember the texting scandal that happened last year!!! A COMITTED PLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • joe

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #28

    Did anyone watch the match the other night? As usual, 1 player wanted the ball back and tried to get it. Butt. As things stand, people are raving about players who are playing terrible. The fans love Milner because he tries as hard as possible but there is no end product. Zog the other night wasn’t interested. He was awful.

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  • JamJamJam

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #29

    n’zogbia’s agent is willie mckay … nuff said

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  • thelongshanks

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #30

    Butt is absolutely rubbish!cant pass and has probably the worse long shot i have ever seen.Ok he can tackle but thats it.Nzogbia leaves i will be devestated.Giles barnes worth more then 2 million that is a cheeky bid,MA you are tight not shrewd.Jenas cost 5m,dyer 6m,young 9m,walcott 14m this is the going rate for young english talent and we bid 2m and what has that got us in the past? 2m= stephen carr.

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  • Nev

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #31

    toon 1978 – im watching SSN now at home on my TV

    and its says it on the yellow scrolling bar … its been there for 20mins + lol

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  • joe

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #32

    Davey G spot on. I remember it too. Shay Given wanted to punch his lights out.

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  • joe

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #33

    He’s right it is on SSN. BTW, i don’t want him to leave but if he does then surely we will look for an exchange for someone like Defoe or Chimbonda or maybe a midfielder?

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  • Jonnie

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #34

    I am in full agreement with Stevem’s post, and honestly believe that Newcastle are stamping out the image that a wealthy club pays over the odds for players. Imagine if we pay over the odds now in this window! We would suffer for it in the summer when we start to build our new team. I agree with KK , there isnt much in this tranfer window avaiable that is better than our current FULL squad.

    On N’zogbia… if he is unhappy, let him go, we only want fully committed players at our club, have you forgotten last season under Roeder when Charlie boy, sat through the pre match briefing chatting on his mobile? and refused to play… humpy little french git!

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  • Len

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #35

    I would say 2 plus incentives is about right. His best game all season was against us, which tells you something. Other games he has odd moments but thats it. I like Nicky Butt and realistically he is a player you bring on for the last 20 to kill the game. Thats about as long as he can run for.

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  • toon1978

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #36

    Spurs are doing my head in how many players can you get in a squad.

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  • Jammy

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #37

    I’m with Joe regarding Nicky Butt, he has been the most consistent player for nearly two seasons now. Granted before that he was awful, but has gone full circle and showing some great form. All those slagging him off, wonder how many go to the games and watch him week in week out?

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  • Chicken

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #38

    SPURS DENY THEY TRYING TO SIGN N’ZOGBIA!!!

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  • Obafan

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #39

    Jammy – Butt can’t kick a descent pass. he perhaps takcles a lot, but he needs to tackle that much because 90% of the time he is the one who loses possession the most.

    I liked his free kick last Tueasday tho’.

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  • drh

    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #40

    for too long we have paid well over the odds for players, I for one am glad to see the club finally standing strong. They obviously valued him at x why pay y when it is double what you think he is worth! He also hits very hot and cold, also if he was that good would he not be ahead of Milner at u21 level, I think not. As kk has said, why buy if it isn’t going to improve what we have! Stick to your guns the toon and end the years of paying shit loads for loads of shit!

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