Who Should Newcastle Unload In The Summer?


Yes, we know we’re not safe from relegation yet, but assuming we come to life and stay in the Premier League – who do you think Kevin should allow to move on in the summer?

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Shola Ameobi – odds-on to move out in the summer?

We are putting a poll up, but wanted to let you know that each reader will have 4 votes each.

We only wanted to list those players who haven’t performed particularly well but not list our better players like Owen, Faye, Beye, Martins, N’Zogia and the like, who we’re sure Kevin will keep. Of course we may lose N’Zogbia, but that will be his choice.

Good or bad, the players we’ve selected are the following 9 players.

Cacapa, Smith, Butt, Ameobi, Ramage, Viduka, Geremi, Barton and Rozehnal.

It’s interesting that 6 of these were brought in last summer by Big Sam. We wanted to get this out before we put the poll up to ensure readers knew they have 4 votes each.



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81 comments so far

  • thelongshanks

    Feb 20, 2008 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #1

    Kinda same comments again ED.we have to get rid of ameobi,butt and carr.Along with them i would prob get rid of smith,barton,rozenhal and geremi,but this depends if we get players in cuz zog looks like he is heading away and if we got a good striker in i would possible get rid of viduka.

    Downing,van buyten,bentley,arshavin and crouch in.

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  • Leo*

    Feb 20, 2008 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #2

    love the new technique for polls where we can have more than one choice. works well

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  • Kash2

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #3

    3 choices are not enough, they all need to be offloaded, however not all of them this summer unless we make plenty of signings to cover departures!

    They’ve all not played as well as they should have or they just not good enough. I’m starting to think that BSA was adopting a “Quantity achieves more than Quality” policy considering the impact most of his signings have made.

    I would love Enrique to show us his metal though. I think he has plenty of potential but he needs to show it now, not later! He’s built for the EPL and definitely has the tecnical ability, its more a case of whether he wants to be a success here.

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  • magpieranger

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #4

    I think we should shed Geremi, Ameobi, Barton and Smith. All for totally different reasons, however I think we will also lose Cacapa, Rozehnal, Ramage, N’Zogbia and Owen with the possibility of Martins going as well. I think next season will see us with a totally revamped squad, wether or not we stay in the premiership (which I think we will – but just). Hopefully the fans and media will give KK a bit of time, Ithink it will take 3 years before we are challenging for a european slot again and we just have to be patient. I am old enough to remember lots of dark days, 1992 especially. Dont expect a quick fix, we can and will get back to being a regualr top 6 side

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  • Kein

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #5

    Out: 1. Carr 2. ameobi 3. smith…
    Others possibly butt, geremi and nearly everybody else (except taylor, milner, beye, zog, faye and owen?) depending on who we get to replace them..

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  • Paul P

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #6

    outs

    cacapa, rozenhal, butt, smith, geremi, viduka, ameobi, carr, barton, ramage, duff

    In

    miguel/hettinga rb
    lucio, barzogli, garey cb
    shorey/bridge lb
    wright phillips rm
    carrick cm
    muntari cm
    diego cm
    de zeeuw cm
    ronaldinho cm
    turan lm
    eto-o cf
    villa cf
    crouch cf

    that will improve us and take onto the next level which is top 6.

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  • Callum

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #7

    Only 4 votes? :/

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  • Lenny

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #8

    we should have 11 votes! not just 4!

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  • Johann

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #9

    My out list:
    Carr – Too lightweight in defense, but could be useful as a squad player but if managers are goin to start him again and again then just please let him go so we don´t have to worry!

    Cacapa – I always thought he would get better but he just hasn´t, and we can´t spend time on him anymore, especially with Edgar coming on. Edgar should be our third choice defender behind Taylor and Faye. AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT REMEMBERS WHEN HE CAME ON AGAINST MANUTD? He had a big effect on the defense with his aggressiveness and Huntington looked a lot better alongside him

    Given – past his best and his best was never enough for me. I want a commanding keeper. Guess what we have three young ones.
    Harper – Can stay one for one more season but i´d like us to cash in on him and just take a chance at our three youth players. I think at least Krul will be up for the first team. That would be a very brave move. A move which brave managers take. Ferguson would do that in my mind.

    Ameobi – good riddance
    Martins – cash in on him, too inconsistent and no first touch, I would keep him but he will get so much money in so it´s worth to sell
    Owen – if we get money for him sell immediately, past his best. We need a complete overhaul

    Players I would like to stay are Butt and Smith
    The reason is very simple.
    Remember Butt back in the day? When he kept it simple? He was outstanding with England. We just need a good manager to tell him how to play. He certainly has the ability and he will come through.
    Smith as well was fantastic at leeds. He kept things simple and had movement around him. He had a lot more confidence then and when it comes back he will be a good player to have. The thing he needs to cut back is his fouls, unacceptable, he slows the game too much.

    No more I remember right now.
    I don´t want to get rid o

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  • Rocky

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #10

    Johann

    Your choice beggars belief! U want to keep Butt and Smith on their past reputations?! Ur crazy. They’ve had their day. Have u been watching any NUFC matches this season? If you had, yiou would have realised how Butt can’t pass to save his life, his sole aim is to give it back to the opposition and Smith! Lots of passion but no skill or quality – Not good enough as a striker and definitely not as a midfielder.

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  • Jimmie

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #11

    Ameobi, Carr, Smith and sorry, Ramage.. Out.

    Van der Vaart, Heitinga, Bridge, Källström, Elmander and Diego .. In

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  • Ian H

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #12

    I think its time for Shola to move on, the bloke’s 26 now and has still done nothing.
    I think Harper should move on and Krul should be 2nd choice to Given.
    Carr, Rozenhal, and Cacapa have to go. They make too many mistakes.
    Give Edgar a chance, sources close to the player say that he has to go at the end of season as he’s still not getting a sniff.
    Enrique will be the best left back Newcastle have had in years! Get rid of Butt and Viduka. Pub players put more effort in than Viduka does!

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  • Kein

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #13

    A bit off topic, but what the heck!

    My friend (who is a tottenham fan) asked me one day that when was the last time you guys bought a good player? A player like Berbatov for Tottenham, Gamst or Bentley for Blackburn, Young or Abgonlahor for Aston Villa, Petrov for Man City and nearly everybody in Man U’s and Arsenal’s starting 11.

    I started to roll the years back and it was very hard to find a player who has really been great! Ok, for example James Milner has been good, but not that kind of a revelation..only one I could imagine was Zoggy, but even he hasn’t produced miracles..

    Of course I mentioned one guy called Alan..That was quite long ago though…

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  • stjames

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #14

    Hi Ed.

    I feel a pool like this one is too negative. Generally a team is not defined by it’s lesser players as much as by it’s best players. As a rule we are in no hurry to let players go but should get new players in as fast as possible. A pool, which in effect asks the fans to name our worst payer(s), is not constructive. On the contrary. It can be very demoralizing for the whole team. 🙁

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  • cooldj

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #15

    isn’t the word offload????

    anyway 4 votes:

    1.Carr
    2.Butt
    3.Viduka
    4.Rozenhal

    Keegan?only joking.

    oh crap i forgot ameobi and geremi-though i’d like to see the latter tried at RB

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  • Davies

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #16

    Out of the nine players you have listed I would only keep Cacapa. He’s made some mistakes (Portsmouth was a bad example of his abilities), but he is a genuinely good defender. He’s saved our skin a few times and he works well with Taylor.

    The rest; Smith, Butt, Ameobi, Ramage, Viduka, Geremi, Barton and Rozehnal, I just don’t think are up to it.

    Viduka will have to do for now, but we already have plenty of alternatives, especially in the reserve team. Step up Andrew Carroll.

    It is, perhaps, a little unfair to judge Ramage as he’s been off with a bad injury, though he did stick the ball in our net not that long before his injury.

    There may be life inGeremi yet, but I doubt we’ll see it at Newcastle, despite his recent performances for Cameroon.

    Rozenahl just doesn’t seem to have bedded in. Shame, he’s a quality player when used properly, but when used out of position, he’s made some expensive mistakes.

    Barton and Smith always look like players who are fighting to keep their place, and maybe the rest of the team could learn from their example in that area, but not in any others. They lack the required skill and both are volatile. Barton may be in clink before too long anyway, but if not, thank you for your time, there’s the door.

    That’s all I have to say about that really. Bye Shola.

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  • Graeme

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #17

    Back in the “Dark Days” and all that, the club was almost bankrupt so no money was available and a team was built accordingly.

    Today the owner wants a team who will regularly thump Man Utd – the mans own words.

    To build a team cabable of doing that, is one also capable of breaking into the top 4; perhaps not next season, but certainly the season after. The bottom line is quite simply, what does Mike Ashley really want??

    If he wants to fulfill his dream, its going to cost him upwards of £50 or £60 million during the summer. If he spends £20 or £30 then he is happy with a quality mid table team that may pull off the occasional shock win over Man Ure or the Arse.

    I would much prefer a more measured approach, spend £20 – 30 mill this summer, consolidate, hope to finish in the top 8-10 and then push on the summer after. Not everyone can do an Errikson or a Ramos and build a top 6 club in a season – they had a much better foundation than we have today.

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  • Davies

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #18

    Johann

    Are you serious about Butt. He’s a liability, and one of the most likely in our team to see us down to ten men on the field. You couldn’t count the amount of times he gives the ball away in any given match.

    GET RID!!!

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  • cooldj

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #19

    i think it would cost more than 60mil!!

    also wasn’t that whole news of the world interview found to a fake-ashley can’t really expect we will have a team that will thump man u unless they get much,much worse!

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  • ChrisL

    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #20

    Ed, Carr needs to be on the list.

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  • Toon Al

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #21

    people shouldnt complain that we can only choose 4, if more than 4 or 5 players leave it wont be good for the club, we need a team who know eachother and their game, if we let players settle it’d be better.

    specially with the expected busy summer window with people comin in

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  • shaunm

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #22

    butt needs to go as he cant pass a ball to save his life, way past his best, rozenhal and geremi need to go both not good enough geremi is too slow and rozenhal had a nightmare 6months at us. carr also needs to go as he is a fat little prick who looked terrible in the villa match and has done for a while. altho i like ameobi he needs to go hed be a decent player for the likes of fulham and bolton and would probably score loads in the championship. thats all for the time being but hardly any player this season is deserving of staying.

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  • Johann

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #23

    Ricky point taken. I´m not at all a man for keeping players on past ability. But I just feel like Butt doesn´t have confidence in his fellow players so he just blasts the ball upfield.
    If Butt would stop those passes and just pass the ball around and spray it wisely all of you opinion would change.
    The biggest complaint is how he gives the ball away. Yes I know it´s awful and I hate it as much as anyone but just more confidence in himself and players around would change that. Butt hasn´t lost what he had. This has nothing to do with body or how old he is, he should really be better at it then he used to with age, that´s what makes it soo strange.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #24

    Id get rid of:
    Carr, Ramage, Ameobi, Butt, Smith, Rozehnal

    Not sure who to bring in.
    Id like Kahlenberg and Demy de Zeeuw and Marc Crosas on loan for starters, then maybe Bridge a decent CB and a big striker.

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  • cooldj

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #25

    butt has never been good-he looked good because he was in a team with beckham, scholes, giggs and keane ect ect – 4 world class players in their day, a fact which no-one can deny. That team could have won the treble with jamie mclen in the team!!

    smith needs a lot of work-he’s not a CM and he’s forgotten how to play striker. he needs to move to a birmingham or a boro-where his attitude will be aplauded and he’ll get a game every week.

    The fact of the matter is replacing speed with butt was a serious error.

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  • Gooderz

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #26

    Out: Smith, Barton, Rozehnal and Ameobi for starters. Later Geremi, Butt etc could go.

    In:
    Wheater (if contract talks continue to falter and would add some height and hopefully build a long term partnership with Taylor)

    Onuoha (backup RB, but also covering CB and LB)

    Bridge (to prove he’s better than Ashley Cole)

    McGeady (to inject pace and skill)

    Crouch (because he’d be great for us)

    Jo (possible Owen/Martins replacement)

    Carrick – we need an Premiership experienced holdig player who can pass, and if Carrick’s not available Hargreaves could be with Anderson coming through. Another option could be Xabi Alonso.

    Bentley/Diego/A young foreigner (Biglia, Cigarini, Defour?) with something to prove to provide a real spark to the side.

    That should give us a much better core squad to which we can odd young players like Kalouda, Barnes, Annan etc…

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  • jane

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #27

    Doesn’t look like Smithy will be leaving thou’..
    “Alan Smith is fine as he is” – Keegan

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  • Nobby's dad

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #28

    If we have aspirations to get into the top 4 then there is only Given I’d definately keep. At a push I’d add Owen (only cos we won’t recoup much on him and I beleive he’ll come good). I also like Baye and Faye. I think Zog will go anyway.

    What you have to ask is if we put all our players up for sale who would Man Utd / Chelsea / Arsenal or Liverpool buy? Matins?? Emre?? Milner?? Personally I think only Given would attract a bid. Some of the others in our squad wouldn’t even attract attention from Wigan!

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  • Bosck

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #29

    I’d say definates out:

    Rozenhal
    Carr
    Ramage
    Butt
    Barton
    Ameobi

    Possible/Probable out:

    Geremi – rest of year to save toon career
    N’Zogbia – looks like he wants to go
    Viduka
    Smith – either or him and viduka as squad player
    Emre – similar to geremi
    Cacapa – but would possibly keep as back up

    Keep the rest

    Bring in:

    1 lb, 1 or 2cb, 1rb
    1 lm (if zog goes), 2 or 3 cm, 1rm
    2 cf

    all players coming in should at least be challenging current players for starting spots.

    massive overhaul but i think its what we need.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #30

    Tom Soetaers for cheap would be worth a go.

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  • John

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #31

    I can’t belive Smith is prefered out more than Butt..

    Anyone whith a football brain can see that Nicky Butt is our worst player by far…I’d hold onto Smith as a squad player , at least he’s an out ball being playted up forward and can bring others into play..

    Nicky Butt just gives the ball away

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  • John

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #32

    @Nobby’s dad. Very good point

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  • STEPHEN14

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #33

    Give Ramage a chance he gives 100% every time and would be good back up when he is fit again as he can play right across the back 4

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  • steve

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #34

    @Johann – are you living in dreamland, both Butt and Smith are absolutely hopeless and are well past thier best, midfield is the area that needs a complete overhaul, and they are our worst performers, Smith is also hopeless as a striker.
    If we don’t replace those two with better quality at a minimum then we’ll struggle next season as well!

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  • John

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #35

    just read Johann first sentence and did’nt read no more. It went
    “But I just feel like Butt doesn´t have confidence in his fellow players so he just blasts the ball upfield. ”

    Ohh my god..This is the biggest load of tosh ive ever heard. Butt has no confidence in he own team mates..
    Have you been watching the games or do you just get the results of text or something. Butt is stealing a living at our club and it sickens me to think of the money i spend on Newcastle actualy contributes to he’s wage.

    He was brillant at United sitting on the bench and that’s what he’s good at..He’s the reason we have a shit defencive record..He does’nt protect the back four AT ALL and when he gets the ball gives it straight back to the opposition. He’s a championship player at best.

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  • Toon Al

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:37 PM

    Comment #36

    the reason none of our players would attract top 4 is simply becuase we are proper miles off bein anywhere near that and we cant just get there by bootin the whole team

    in all honesty do u think if we booted 7 or 8 players from our squad we would actually be able to attract players of a calibre to challenge top 4? course we wouldnt. they’d prefere to go to aston villa, everton or someone.

    its not that im not a loyal supporter and not that i don’t love our club but come on people we’re practically in a relegation battle!

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  • GEORDIE69

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #37

    Out

    Harper
    Carr
    Cacapa
    Rozehnal
    Ramage
    Geremi
    Butt
    Ameobi
    Smith

    In

    RB
    LB
    CD
    CD
    RW
    DM
    AM
    CF

    Also Top young players any position apart from Goalkeeper.

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  • steve

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #38

    @Nobbys Dad – Top four clubs wouldnt touch any of them but I’d imagine we’d get offers for Smith, Martins, Zogs and possibly Barton if he stays out of jail.
    Championship teams with aspirations of prem football would bid for the rest

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  • GEORDIE69

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #39

    Players to keep

    GK Given
    GK Krul
    RB Beye
    LB Enrique
    CD Faye
    CD Taylor
    CD Edgar
    RW Milner
    DM Barton
    AM Emre
    LW Duff
    LW NZgobia
    CF Owen
    CF Viduka
    CF Martins

    Plus loan out all top young players.

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  • cooldj

    Feb 20, 2008 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #40

    @steve.

    but mot wouldn’t move down a league becasue they know they’re sh*t and living a cushy lifestyle with a big wage.

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