FT: Newcastle 1 Manchester United 5 – Magpies Thrashed


This was a result Newcastle fans were hoping just wouldn’t happen.

After being thrashed 6-0 at Old Trafford a few weeks back, the Red Devils strolled through this game, and ended up 5-1 winners even though they hardly got out of second gear most of the game.

Newcastle started the game off brightly enough, and at least for 15-20 minutes were holding their own against Manchester but then once the first goal went in from Rooney on 25 minutes when he was completely unmarked at the far post following a left wing cross from Ronaldo, things went downhill.

Newcastle tried to hold out until half time but after 45 minutes Ronaldo scored when he was put clean through by an exquisite through ball by Michael Carrick.

At half time it didn’t look like we could salvage the game but were hoping the boys would at least go down fighting but after 56 minutes Ronaldo got his second when he went through and easily put the ball past Harper, who had replace the injured Shay Given at the half.

Thankfully it looked like Manchester were happy at 3-0 and slowed the game down but then a strange thing happened. Newcastle actually scored a goal. Andy Carroll had come on for Joey Barton on 61 minutes and following a left winger corner he headed the ball down (actually if was off his shoulder) and Faye smashed the ball home.

But what we expected then happened as Manchester raised their game and scored within a minute as Wayne Rooney shot home. To make the scoreline even worse Louis Saha, who was on loan at Newcastle in 1999, shot home in injury time after he and Rooney combined together brilliantly. Saha had replaced Ronaldo after 61 minutes.

The bottom line in this game is that the Red Devils were streets and streets ahead of us, and the only consoling factor here is that we didn’t really expect any points from this game.

But now in our last 10 league games we’ve lost 7 and drawn 3. But even worse is that our goal difference is now a staggering -22. Only Reading on -23 and Derby on -43 have worse goal differences.

In the last 10 league games we’ve conceded 26 goals and scored just 5 goals in getting a measly 3 points. That’s worse than relegation form.

Our next game is next week against Blackburn at home, and if we cannot get anything out of that game a relegation fight will be on the horizon.   Our performances over the last 2 months have just not been good enough.  The worrying thing coming out of this is our players may not be good enough, and if we do survive the drop we’ll need a lot more than 4 top players to add to our squad.

Comments very welcome – but please keep them decent – thanks.

61 comments so far

  • ToonKing

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:37 PM

    Comment #1

    disgrace, and poor Bobby had to watch this……..

  • Faroe Gordie

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:39 PM

    Comment #2

    JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!

  • Griff

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:40 PM

    Comment #3

    Smith didnt pass one ball forwards today. Shocking.

    Its strange, it doesnt hurt when we concede a goal any more. I am used to it.

    Why doesnt Enrique play? Hopefully Martins and Owen will oust out Smith.

    Butt played quite well but all he can do is run, dive, run dive get booked, shout, go red. Miss the ball, etc.

  • Gordon

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:43 PM

    Comment #4

    like I said before:

    So much money wasted at our club buying FORMERLY good players who through injury (Owen, Duff, Smith, Cacapa, Carr – to a small extent Given), age (Butt, Geremi) or off field problems (Barton) are nothing more than NAMES…

  • Michael

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #5

    No tactics.

  • Edd Case

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:45 PM

    Comment #6

    It just shows how far down hill the club has gone.

    It wasn’t that many years ago we were challenging for the title ourselves, not look at us.

    What pisses me off even more though, is that Mike Ashley didn’t bust the bank to bring in more players, like Woody etc.
    He’s a billionaire apparently, so why not spend some of it on his ‘new toy’?
    We desperately needed new players in January, even the blind could see that but we didn’t get anyone of note in, bought kids and let Rozenhal leave! Madness.

    We are rightly in the gutter.

    I can only think of one person who’s smiling right now. Fat Freddy Pig-faced twat Shepherd.

    I bet he’s laughing so much he’s pissed himself – how many millions did he get???

    We are going to be relegated people, you all know it.

    But at least we can look forward to another Championship title, I hope…

    To be honest, maybe it’s a good thing.
    1. We won’t go into financial meltdown, that’s already sorted.
    2. Players like Butt, Smith, Viduka, Carr, Barton, Owen, Duff, Milner, Emre, will all leave.
    3. We can bring in at least 15 new, young, fresh players with the thirst and hunger to do well.
    4. It could kick-start on battered engine into life once again.
    5. We might stand a chance of beating the odd team in the Chamionship!

  • Gooderz

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:49 PM

    Comment #7

    Agreed, having a forward who doesn’t look forward (or even sideways) is just shocking.

    We still need something different at the back though. Again there were many times where it looked as though they were playing musical statues, but someone hadn’t turned the music back on.

    Edgar is the most likely candidate as the captain of the reserves and showing some fine form with leadership, with Kadar a close second for his composure in defence. And this change would probably see Faye play a bit further forward, who is now a better striker than Smith.

  • Hobs

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:51 PM

    Comment #8

    To Edd Case:

    ..We might even WIN the Championship!! A trophy!!! 😀

  • GP

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:52 PM

    Comment #9

    A relegation fight “on the horizon”? Have you seen the league table lately?

  • Obafan

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #10

    Griff and Gooderz – 500% right about Smith, but why should he change his playing style. I think every time again his name is the first on the paper. I’m not defending him, not at all, but the people who need to see that, don’t or just don’t want to see that. And I really start to think that they don’t want to see that.

  • toon4lyf

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:55 PM

    Comment #11

    uce r retards hoping for relegation and emre is a great player ….i think results will start to pick up now when martins emre enrique return because them 3 players make a huge diffrence

  • Macca

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #12

    It’s an improvement. LOL!!!!

  • Steven

    Feb 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM

    Comment #13

    I am angry that certain people are putting us in the championship already, its people like that who sang ‘you don’t know what your doing’ to big sam, look at us, thanks to certain fickle fans and a chairman (chris mort) we are a laughing stock, from one of the best english managers to some blast from the past glory ex-manager who has NO IDEA. I was really hoping that news of DIC with a take-over were real, saddly not true.

  • Obafan

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:00 PM

    Comment #14

    toon4lyf – I see Martins on the bench for Smith. Enrique is a complete mistery, and from today we can put Viduka also as a mistery; what, happened to them.

    And Emre, the one to open up the defences would have started on the bench, cause KK loves Barton – Butt in the central area. Why? Don’t know.

  • GP

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:00 PM

    Comment #15

    Good news is that the teams around us got beat too.

  • James

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:00 PM

    Comment #16

    I am so disappointed with our team! we have the talent but the players just don’t seem to care. It’s disgusting and I think more than a few should be shown the door! The problem is not with the talent, it’s with the mentality of the players. They are weak mentally, they fold up and stop playing right after they go down. Oh and our defense is laughable!

  • Obafan

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:05 PM

    Comment #17

    Given: lost his credibility
    Beye: thank god he playse for us.
    Faye: strong, but on his own
    Taylor: big f**l who makes the one mistake after the other
    Zog; should not play cause not interested anymore
    Milner: lots of spirit, but not enough at this level.
    Butt: had his top years, is over it
    Barton: give him a few drinks before the game, perhaps
    Duff: fighting with himself
    Owen: no delivery for him, very frustrating
    Smith: best pal of the manager

    Harper: good 2nd half
    Cacapa: should ALWAYS partner Faye, so we don’t have to watch Taylor’s foolish mistakes
    Carroll: very difficult to prove what he is worth
    Geremi: should have started today
    Ameobi: seen enough of him (nice lad)

  • Steven

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:05 PM

    Comment #18

    I also noticed that some key backroom figures at newcastle e.g. Mark Howard have left, this worries me further, since I assume Keegan feels such key backroom staff are not needed???? With his physio and other important medical staff leaving us, where are the replacements?!!! I think its safe to say its Keegan who does’nt know what he’s doing. We are in a mess.

  • ToonUSA

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:06 PM

    Comment #19

    What is there to say, God Help us.

  • Michael

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:06 PM

    Comment #20

    James I think you are rather reticent in saying it so I will, I agree we have the players with talent but what is lacking is a competent manager. No tactics.

  • Macca

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:06 PM

    Comment #21

    Obafan..why has Given lost his credibility? It’s not his fault that he’s injured.

  • GP

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:09 PM

    Comment #22

    Micheal – And what was so different under Fat Sam?

  • Kelvin Koogan

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:11 PM

    Comment #23

    Why does KK like Butt? He also liked that other waste of space Batty mind you

  • Jon

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #24

    Get Taylor out of that defence!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Obafan

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #25

    Macca – I just think he was not completely play fit. What happenned looks very strange (I find it strange) if a keeper has to be substituted at half time if you know that the last game the same thing happenned and he had to come back from an injury…

  • Jon

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #26

    and where was Enrique today?????

  • Obafan

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:14 PM

    Comment #27

    Jon – Thank you m8, finally someone who sees what Taylor does in our defence. He is sh*t.

  • Mike

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:16 PM

    Comment #28

    Well don’t really care about the result cause ManU are a far superior side.

    What troubled me is that our central midfielders are doing nothing out there. I almost forgot Butt and Barton where playing because we completely bypass them on our attack. I know it’s mostly because they lack the skill to be out there… so there points to one of our problems… we have no middle of the pitch…

    yes our defense is very poor but we have to get some creative central midfielders who can be part of the attacking buildup and actually be noticeable out there on the field

  • Macca

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:18 PM

    Comment #29

    Obafan..it’s an injury you wouldn’t wish on anyone, because it’s always at him, a slip here or there and he can aggravate it. My cousin he plays rugby, he’s a similar injury, and I’m telling you you wouldn’t wish it on anyone. He’d be running to work and he could pull it, which he has on more then one occasion, lol! It’s that easy to aggravate. IMO he shouldn’t have been played if he was injured, but that’s down to the manager though, of course he wants to play, every players wants to play.

    If he didn’t go off because he was injured, it would have been said. My heart really goes out to Given though because it’s a pain in the ass.

  • Nomis_jade

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #30

    I get so frustrated watching the team. Butt is absolutely useless and gives nothing to the team. Surely he his there to prtect the back four, and he doesnt at all! The play always broke down today because of him or smith. Carroll showe he can hold the ball up better than smith and win the odd header, but i still see viduka better than both. Ok he doesnt work quite as hard but he scores f**king goals and hold the ball up really well! I cant belive Butt and smith are still in the starting 11 let alone the subs. Change these two and i think the team would flow better. Other tahn that taylor needs to be dropped for a bit cos he is making to many errors. He will be a great player but there is still to much pressure on such young shoulders and eyes are on him all the time with us shipping 4,5 or 6 goals all the time.
    Finally we desperatley need a win. Not a draw, a win agains Bburn.

  • Tom_Toon

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #31

    I had a hernia once 😉 ive started the cider.

  • toon4lyf

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:25 PM

    Comment #32

    agree with mike the centre mid today was woeful when martins emre enrique cum back we will be class

  • Toon_Under

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:26 PM

    Comment #33

    Well it was an improvement, at least we got on the board.

    Without sounding cracked record like, Smith and Butt need to go. And while he didn’t do much later on, Barton seems to get into space and no one gives him the ball – I remember a break down the middle and barton was all alone out right, but we went left where all the red shirts were. No wonder why he gave up – Butt refuses to pass to him and prefers a wild lob down field.

    For those Taylor fans, I hope you watched todays game – he makes these same basic errors every game but it is often covered by whoever is next to him, and then they get blamed for the goal. Not today. He needs to stick around, but he’s well short of world beater and will be for a while yet.

    I hope Carroll keeps getting a run again next week, and N’Zogbia either pulls his finger out or pisses off.

    Last but not least, why the hell can we not make simple passes? that’s the main thing holding the current squad back (that and a sheer lack of class). And why is it that when we do pass it’s always behind the player so we lose all momentum? KK needs to pick out the better players and then put the reserves in around them, get some heart back.

  • Macca

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:27 PM

    Comment #34

    Tom_Toon..hernia eh?? Ow. Cider, about two cans of Bulmers ahead of ya. LOL!!
    No seriously though my cousin was in a car crash and he actually (freakishly) ruptured his bowel and his spleen. Or something like that, thankfully he’s fine. But his groin it’s very frail, cause his middle core was shattered and so is his knee..he’s got a few nails in it. He’s still a fabulous rugby player though. Just sadly very injury prone.
    I wouldn’t wish it on anyone though, if it’s anything like what Given has it’s a horrible horrible injury.

    I think that Man U really set the bar though, we talk about wanting to be in Europe wanting to challenge the title winners but like that’s where the bar is, that’s the difference.

  • Davy C

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:34 PM

    Comment #35

    I think that Keegan got it tactically right today but unfortunately we shot ourselves in the foot! AGAIN!

    Man U play with Carrick sitting deep and Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez further forward leaving a huge gap in the centre of the park. To try and play against this he dropped Smith a little bit deeper. He won a lot more ball in that 10 yard off the centre two position and that’s why he passed it back to the midfield to link up and bring in either the two wingers or Owen.

    However, the midfield two (I’m sure if Emre had been fit it may have been a different game entirely) weren’t up to it and Barton again had a nightmare. Weactually lost so much simple ball in that centre part that Man U didn’t really have to try.

    It’s so frustrating when Duff and Milner ran their hearts out, Faye battled for and won almost everything, Beye stopped Ronaldo for most of the game and Zog looked dangerous coming forward, to see the team get tonked as a result of a few individual silly mistakes.

    I personally don’t think Taylor is good enough and if he didn’t have a Geordie passport he’d be barracked by the crowd. I’d rather see Cacapa with Faye.

    Maybe it’s time Keegan used Zog in the centre of midfield where he can do some damage rather than being wasted at left back.

    Ifs and buts again.

    Roll the sleeves up and get ready for Blackburn.

  • Toon_Under

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:40 PM

    Comment #36

    That’s one part I missed (thanks Macca for the Man U comment!), Man U were on another level today and I don’t think they really got out of second gear. Three of the goals were absolute gifts, Rooney’s was just brilliant and we wouldn’t have stopped that one, and Saha, well..

    Well done to Man U and if they keep playing like they have been they deserve that title. It’s all pace and skill, both of which we don’t have..

  • Michael

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:45 PM

    Comment #37

    We have 28 points on the board with 7 victories. 26 of these points are from Big Sam, 7 of the wins are from big sam. Keegan has managed 2 goals, and tw0 points in 6-7 games. He is a “jester”.That is the difference. Had Sam been there I am sure we would not be fighting for europe, but we would be in the 30’s by now.

  • Whitey

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:51 PM

    Comment #38

    Steven Taylor was awful today. He made mistake after mistake and cost us the important goals. For Manchester Uniteds second he took his eyes off the ball at the vital moment which allowed Ronaldo to go throught and score and for the second he should of tackled him not run past him (F**KING Idiot). I could have defended better then him today.

  • hanzemre

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:52 PM

    Comment #39

    Oh no there we go again..another pathetic performance. KK must be joking to start with Butt & Smith in every match after all they did in last few games, that was NOTHING but just run walk & made stupid tackles.Hope it was true that Enrique is stil injured as N’Zogbia is becoming useless player in LB.If not,KK to blame if both players do go next summer. Taylor our favourite player is becoming a clown in defense, but wait a sec! he is still young & learning his football so he is entitled to make stupid mistakes in every game he plays..hmmm

  • Dragoner

    Feb 23, 2008 at 8:56 PM

    Comment #40

    people finally recognise taylor is the weak link in defence, i have been saying it since about 5 games into the season, yet everyone jus jumped on my back “hes our best player” lol, what an embarrassment


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