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Relegation Clouds Gather over Newcastle

10:25 am, Sunday, February 24th, 2008 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 48 Comments

Newcastle United manager Kevin Keegan has now admitted what is becoming more real with every dismal loss – that we are in a relegation scrap.

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Kevin Keegan - relegation scrap now looms

Just 3 points from our last 10 league games that has seen us defeated 7 times, and a goal difference now of -22, the third worst in the league tells it all.

We were hoping for a good performance yesterday, and if we got that and didn’t even win we even thought that would be OK. It would give us something to build on. But what we got yesterday was exactly the one thing we didn’t want – a poor performance and another heavy defeat.

Manchester United were streets ahead of us in everything they did and it got to be embarrassing towards the end of the game.

After the game Kevin said:

“I have said all along, we need 40 points this year, and we have got 28. Anybody who has not got 40 points can be relegated – and in the past, teams with 42, 43 have.”“To get to 40, we need four wins, or three wins and three draws.”

“I am here for three and a half years. That’s what I signed for and that’s what I am here for.”

“I took a job on. This is a club I love, this is a club I have managed before and this is a club that I want to take back where I think it belongs.”

“My commitment is absolutely 100%. You cannot give any more than that and that’s what it is.”

Good words from Kevin, and we have to accept that if our form remains like that of yesterday, we will have difficulty even with the poorer teams in the league. But there is time for us to improve and improve we must.

The light at the end of the tunnel is that is we can survive, it will give Keegan a chance to vastly improve the squad, but we’ll need a lot more than 4 top players if we are to be a good team next season.

Comments welcome.



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48 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Black Caesar // Feb 24, 2008 at 10:28 AM

    All those idiots cheering keegan’s appointment where are you now?

    You dont know your football from your abcd!!! Keegan is crap manager! and everyone knows this except some twisted minded Newcastle fans!!!

  • 2 Leo* I HATE NICKY BUTT // Feb 24, 2008 at 10:31 AM

    if its put into respective we all really expected to loose, even by the gap we did by, we just dont have any pace in our team. except charlie AT LEFT BACK!!! or martins playing left back in the injury room…

    we need them both playing.

    nicky butt is ruining our beloved club!!!

  • 3 Leo* I HATE NICKY BUTT // Feb 24, 2008 at 10:32 AM

    keegan isnt a crap manager, have some heart and support your team, he can only play with the cards he has been given.

    with the players keegan has been given, it gives the other teams aces and jokers in their hand

    or should it be jokers in our team?

    nicky butt is sh1te

  • 4 stumpofthetoon // Feb 24, 2008 at 10:39 AM

    shut up black caesar who the f**k are u lik manager of the year as far as i can see its al big sams fault smith is shit barton yesterday was a complete joke butt should not be playing in the prem. kegan has been given no money wot is he supposed to do if u dont like it f**k of and support the manks as i seen so meny yesterday waiting 4 3 * 4 nill to get money back on your bet

  • 5 ronaldeano // Feb 24, 2008 at 10:50 AM

    fook off Black Ceasar you pessamistic prick, you are the one who knows fook all about football, all you prattle on about is how shit KK is, were you alive in 1996? KK took us to where manure are now, if KK was a shit manager that fantastic era wouldent have happend. so go and give your heed a slap and piss off over to Pennywell you fooking wanker

  • 6 ronaldeano // Feb 24, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    Black Ceasar YOU FOOKIN ARSEHOLE

  • 7 Tom_Toon // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:15 AM

    We have been in a relegation scrap for at least a month and a half and a lot of us have been saying it.

  • 8 Jamie // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    All down to the shite that is on the pitch im afraid, nothing to do with Keegan, most of the players just not good enough.

    Ok we have Faye, Beye, N’Zogbia, and maybe Taylor, but the rest are not up to the level of the top prem teams.

    No pace, strength, athleticism or height – Its very much like men against boys.

    We can’t do much about that at present, but Andy Carrol needs to start games, Butt and smith need to be dropped. Duff dropped for Zogs, Enrique left back or edgar.

    Harper
    Beye, Taylor, Faye, Enrique
    Milner, Barton, Geremi, N’Zogbia
    Martins, Carrol.

    That would be my team.

  • 9 Zx // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:18 AM

    Black Ceasar, if you do not like KK then you can just sit there and whine. But don’t spread your negativity to the rest of the fans.

  • 10 oioi // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    get a f***n grip caesar,
    its allardices team,allardices fault!
    what do you expect keegan to do in 6 weeks?
    spend 20 million in jan on yet more crap who arent upto the job.
    keegans job is survival (the 1/2 year)with allardices crap and mess he created, then a total team rebuild with the backing of ashley ,whos putting the structure together behind the scenes (after allardices/shepherds mess) over the next 3 years…a real proper structured club…i know this is new to most nufc fans!!!it doesnt happen overnight.
    his main hope is to give this shocking team confidence…its not keegans fault they cant pass a ball or defend properly (on ???,000 a week!!!!).
    (i wont even go down the route of allardice and agents !!!)
    and anyone who thinks ashley employed keegan then wise a few weeks later to de-stabilise keegan needs a lobotomy…theres a f***n structure been built…anyone who thinks this is going to work over night is just a new breed’socca’ fan…instant success idiot.
    ive every faith in keegan/ashley…
    even if that means winning the championship next season (which it wont coz luckily theres 3 worse teams) fourth bottom with this team of allardices is quite a result.
    make no mistake…keegans knows he’s trying to install confidence in crap…he’s got no choice.
    ill bet my mortgage 80% of this ‘team’ goes in summer and keegan knows exactly who…
    you really think coxys stood there as well goin ‘yeah great team kev…they just need confidence’
    he knos theyre crap…theyve no choice but to stick with wot theyve got,
    coming out and saying butt,smith etc etc arent upto the job will make em even worse and slash their summer transfer value…
    (if they were up to the job they’d still be playing in red???)
    have faith…keegan will have nufc in the top 6 within 3 years…THEN ITS TIME TO KICK ON.

  • 11 Black Caesar // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    The players at NUFC NOW are better than the players in Villa, Portsmouth, Blackburn etc. And if Keegan cant use these players to beat such teams or their ilk then yes he’s crap!

    I mean the man said it himself…. MR CRY BABY…………

  • 12 oioi // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:33 AM

    oh yea i forgot to mention,
    you really think ashleys invested over £250 million to watch that?
    he’s a businessman at the top of his field,
    dont underestimate the man…
    he knows a successful business needs a structure from the bottom to the top and thats what the mans doing…why buy shite in jan ???nhes not that stupid.
    he’s got the men HE WANTS in place and i rekon the next few years are going to be the most exciting in the clubs history…top men attracting top players,to a club what operates properly…not just to feed the ego of a fat useless chairman!
    this club is bieng rebuilt from top to bottom and that takes time…roll on the next few seasons and let the ghost of allardyce be exorcised in summer.
    ashley and keegan will sort the mess…no problem

  • 13 simon p // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:36 AM

    Should have paid over the odds for a few good players in Jan , to make sure we avoided relegation.
    Nobody to blame but themselves.
    Ashley now runs the risk of his investment dropping in value if we are relegated.

  • 14 Jamie // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:36 AM

    [quote] The players at NUFC NOW are better than the players in Villa, Portsmouth, Blackburn etc. And if Keegan cant use these players to beat such teams or their ilk then yes he’s crap![/quote]

    Are you for real? OMG seriously go buy a brain

  • 15 icestation // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:37 AM

    Black Caesar,if you don,t like it then EFF OFF,its as simple as that.As soon as KK is able to have a clear out off the dross and [Carr wod b my 1st one out the door] get is own guys in, we will have to suffer.Never ever knock KK you Muppett.

  • 16 Tom_Toon // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:39 AM

    on paper they are better than blackburns and mosst of pompeys, but fairly even with villa.

  • 17 Dinko // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:44 AM

    http://www.petitiononline.com/mataylor/petition.html

  • 18 Jamie // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM

    Ok name our so called better players currently than any of blackburns, Villas and pompys?

    To name a few

    Taylor vs Campbell (pompy) Samba /Laursen
    Harper vs James (pompy) Freidal / Carsson
    Barton vs Diarra (pompy) Dunn / Barry
    Smith Vs Defoe (pompy) Santa Cruz / Agbonlahor
    Duff vs Kranjcar (pompy) Bentley / Young
    Butt vs Muntari (pompy) Pedersen / Reo Coker.

    Need I really say more?

  • 19 Tom_Toon // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:52 AM

    ON PAPER! and im talking overall squad.

  • 20 Dragoner // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:52 AM

    Jamie i hate to say it, but on paper it is true we have better teams than those. the problem is the players we have are just names, no real quality

  • 21 Bill F // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:54 AM

    As a long time KK supporter, I do wonder why he is doing the same stupid stuff as Allerdyce and playing the obviously cr*p players. It doesn’t take a genius to see that Butt, Smith, Carr, Geremi, Viduka and several others are not good enough to even be in the squad never mind starting games. Is part of the job specifications to have a partial lobotomy in the region of the brain that controls common sense. The supporters can see it why can’t KK.

    The only good thing about yesterday, apart from Carroll who did exactly what I expected him to do, was that the prime relegation candidates also lost. And whilst it’s a mind set I hate to adopt I am hoping that Reading also lose today. It’s really depressing when you have to think like that. :(

  • 22 Geordie Joe // Feb 24, 2008 at 11:58 AM

    Its sad to say it but pompy and villa’s squds are far superior than ours. Our squad is shit. butt and smith are both passangers. Carroll done more in ten minutes than smith did all game. Duff is shit aswell, he is a winger and i can’t remember his last assist. Fat sam has knocked us back 5 years.

  • 23 Dragoner // Feb 24, 2008 at 12:00 PM

    Bill F, thank god for someone who admits that KK seems a bit out of his depth. All those excuse makers saying “dont blame kk, this is allardyces” team, i say look at what ramos has done with “martin jols” tottenham team that were awful from the beginning of the season until ramos arrived. Ramos worked with a squad low in confidence and look where they are today. he dragged them up from the bottom 4 in the league to above us, into the last 16 of the UEFA and they play a cup final today.

  • 24 Paul // Feb 24, 2008 at 12:02 PM

    I was at the Manchester game, the only players out of the team that I would keep would be N’Zogbia. Milner, Harper and Given. The rest are crap. Smith,Barton,Owen, Duff are real poor. Taylor thinks he is a good player, Fayre,Beye, and Geremi are not worth a place. THANKS SAM.

  • 25 Dragoner // Feb 24, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    It is clear to see in every match that KK isn’t up to speed with the premiership now, he makes substitutions when we have already conceded 2 or 3 goals, his team selection is similar if not the same to big sams, and he looks like a broken man everytime i see him in an interview. NUFC should not have reappointed him, now his reputation with the club will be tarnished if he fails and we will no longer be able to talk about 1996 without someone else saying “yeah but look what happened when he came back”

  • 26 Ian // Feb 24, 2008 at 12:05 PM

    When Martins can play again the team will transform within two matches, we will have teeth, no defence can handle the ball coming back like a boomerang all the time and the midfield and strikers doing nothing with the ball when it is cleared. Martins needs to be our number one striker and the best player that sits alongside him should be the other striker, hopefully it will work with Owen, but if it is someone else then play the someone else. When are we going to realise, no Martins no wins, we need another good aggressive direct pacey striker in the Summer, none of these easily injured, strikers who may be good if they have service, Djibril Cisse for me, Rooney never had service with that strike into the right corner of the net, he made his own chance. If we have three in midfield Gerami should be central midfielder, if we have four Smith and Gerami, Gerami is useless on the wing, we know that from Sam’s games. Barton is crap. Why we do not play Edgar and have Nzogbia on the left and use Duff to bring on around the 60 minutes to replace either Milner or Nzogbia if the game needs a fresh pair of legs I do not know, even if a winger is playing well another pacey player replacing him will add pressure the opposition.
    Martins will change our team overnight, then everyone has someone to aim for that looks like scoring. I have my doubts about Carroll but I think we should keep trying him when we can.

  • 27 Zx // Feb 24, 2008 at 12:05 PM

    If you guys are so good with your team selection, entire management of the club, set up your own football club, put yourself as manager. Hire your own guys to manage your OWN club.

    You guys just want to proof to others that we have the worst set of fans. Bunch of idiots. I’m outta here.

  • 28 Dragoner // Feb 24, 2008 at 12:06 PM

    Paul i think you are being a bit harsh, Faye, Beye have proven to be quality, Owen has been working hard since being named captain but gets maybe one or two good deliveries each game.

  • 29 Geordie Joe // Feb 24, 2008 at 12:08 PM

    I can’t believe people are turning on kk. Great support lads. you can only judge by the end of next season. This isn’t his squad.

  • 30 Hadrian // Feb 24, 2008 at 12:10 PM

    im here , still cheering for the appointment of the 5th most sucsesssfull prem manager .
    honest some of you amaze me , not long out your mothers womb and you think your all brian cloughs .
    what is keegan meant todo ? pull a shirt on and go out on the pitch with those ‘footballers’ .

    time for everyone to stop pinning the blame at keegans feet and start looking at the players out on the pitch on a matchday , cos there all shit .

  • 31 Dragoner // Feb 24, 2008 at 12:10 PM

    im not turning on kk, i was against his reappointment from the start, we should have just left him so that memories of his time at the club would have stayed great

  • 32 Dragoner // Feb 24, 2008 at 12:14 PM

    i also think we need new coaches, what the hell do the coaches we have now go over in training!? our defenders never seem to learn the basics. e.g. man marking, tracking etc. these are the core competencies of a defender!

  • 33 CRAIGG // Feb 24, 2008 at 12:28 PM

    Black caesar im here and i will walk in my keegan wonderland along with real newcastle fans till i die ive been doing it since 1992 and i dont intend stopping now!!!

  • 34 Ian // Feb 24, 2008 at 12:44 PM

    I dont think KK is out of his depth at all, probably the same people starting to chirp up that caused the trouble with Bobby Robson, we dont need that.
    One thing does look fairly certain to me is that KK hasnt watched many if any Newcastle matches this season, otherwise he would know the players a little better and would not play Nzogbia at the back, would play Smith midfield and not as a striker, wouldnt play Gerami on the wing only play him central, or Barton at all, it is only becasue we watch every game and replay parts of the game over and over again that we know which players will let him down, he has been busy working in Glasgow, just give him time, we wont be relegated as soon as Martins can play again, winning or drawing always seems possible with Martins, no team will allow nearly all of their team forward with him on the pitch and the pressure will be lifted slightly from our defence and midfield.
    If Martins and Owen partner well they could be deadly as Owen is always in the right place at the right time, which will give Martins another option on his many runs at the opposition.
    Djibril Cisse is the player we need in the Summer, a fast tall aggresive player who scores all of his career and can do it now, no more of these damn players with potential or recovering from injuries.

  • 35 CRAIGG // Feb 24, 2008 at 1:02 PM

    During his five years at St James’s Park, Keegan had overseen a revolution in Newcastle’s fortunes. On his appointment in February 1992, Newcastle had been second from bottom in the old Second Division and looked favourites for relegation. But he kept them in the Second Division and they were founder members of the new Division One in 1992-93. A superb run of form kept them at the top of the division all season and they went up to the Premiership as Division One champions. Third and sixth place finishes followed before Newcastle led the Premiership for most of 1995-96, Eventually finishing as runners up to Manchester United at the of the season. He Left Newcastle as they looked well placed to challenge for a league title the following season.

    Out of his depth dont make me laugh read the scenario of his first half season sound familiar the the magic happened then and it will happen again!!! KEEP THE FAITH

  • 36 CRAIGG // Feb 24, 2008 at 1:07 PM

    Newcastle United sacked manager Ossie Ardiles, just 36 hours after being told by chairman John Hall that his job was safe. Hall appointed former striker Kevin Keegan as manager in hope of staving off relegation from the Second Division – and he succeeded.

    We will not be going down. KEEP THE FAITH

  • 37 CRAIGG // Feb 24, 2008 at 1:10 PM

    Newcastle United’s first full season under the management of Kevin Keegan ended in Division One championship glory and promotion to the Premiership. They have not looked back since.

    We aint lookin back now. KEEP THE FAITH

  • 38 CRAIGG // Feb 24, 2008 at 1:12 PM

    Kevin Keegan guided Newcastle United to third place in the Premiership – and a place in the UEFA Cup – just one season after winning promotion.

    The guy is gods representitive on earth
    KEEP THE FAITH

  • 39 Dragoner // Feb 24, 2008 at 1:16 PM

    Craigg the simple fact of the matter is, that was too long ago to compare to now, football has changed and i do not feel keegan has been following it enough in order to be up to speed with it.

  • 40 CRAIGG // Feb 24, 2008 at 1:23 PM

    Newcastle United beat Manchester United 5-0 in a FA Premier League fixture, which end’s the division’s longest unbeaten start to the season.
    Keegan built Newcastle United finished runners up again and qualified for the Champions League preliminary stages

    Latter parts of this season granted were under Kenny (Had KK stayed we would of won the league) but in control of KK’s Entertainers. He f**ked up when he started buying his old liverpool buddies and joke players from abroad and sold Kevs great players.
    KEEP THE FAITH

  • 41 CRAIGG // Feb 24, 2008 at 1:26 PM

    Nothing is too long ago to compare with now why do you think the scousers got on Souness, Evans, Houllier and now Rafa because they cannot win them the league and therefore those guys are compared to Shankly, Paisley, Fagan and Dalglish ETC.

  • 42 Mitch H // Feb 24, 2008 at 1:26 PM

    Dragoner, Tom_Toon & Black Caesar, your a discrace to all true NUFC fans.
    You make my skin crawl with your comments.

    Get a life, find a new team ,& leave us true NUFC supporters to support our team.

    Every day, its these three morons, who constantly slag off everything about the club & KK.

    Lets see what your saying this time in two years when KK has turned us around & got us back where we belong, challenging the big 4.

    Keep the faith, all true Mags !!!

  • 43 Bill F // Feb 24, 2008 at 1:27 PM

    The big problem as I see it, is that KK is not out of his depth. I think he has gone a little into panic mode and believes that the “experienced” players are the ones to bring stability to the side and may be a little to close to the problems to see them. I do not think we will go down and once we (KK) have/has time to step back and see the bigger picture then we will see the real qualities of KK as a manager. The rest of the season is going to be a roller coaster, but the good thing is that the other relegation sides are as bad as we are, and (fingers crossed) we have played the toughest sides.

  • 44 Dragoner // Feb 24, 2008 at 1:31 PM

    please do not associate me with black caeser :)

  • 45 Dragoner // Feb 24, 2008 at 1:34 PM

    people on here misunderstand, i know what kk has achieved so stop trying to school me, it was good, i wouldnt call it great. but that was the past, i simply do not feel he can cope with the modern day premiership, it is much harder and there is much more pressure on managers now then there were then. Do people on here really believe he can take the immense pressure that will start from next season?

  • 46 oioi // Feb 24, 2008 at 2:03 PM

    i like the comment that ramos turned jols squad around…thats obviously because jol had a great squad!
    unfortunately keegan hasnt inherited that,
    he’s inherited 70-80% allardyce ‘agent reccomendations’ and has beens.
    i seriously think we’ve not heard the last of allardyce, shepherd , mr mackay and the bungs and backhanders what go on.
    keegans going to bring in players in the summer who will want to play for kk,the shirt and glory,
    not for £££.
    hail kk

  • 47 Dragoner // Feb 24, 2008 at 2:10 PM

    another manager we could of gone for, martin jol, he took tottenham from a mediocre, mid table, going nowhere club to 5th twice. yet people on here were saying, “he aint good enough” lol. what a joke

  • 48 Obafan // Feb 24, 2008 at 5:17 PM

    Jamie (post n°8); how dare you even mention Taylor as one of the few who can handle this level. He is utter crap and week in week out he prooves us that he ain’t worth a place in the starting eleven. But like others (Butt, Smith, Barton) he can play every game.




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