What Went Wrong Yesterday? Everything


We thought we’d take a look at what we wanted for the team selection yesterday in our Match Preview and see what Kevin actually did with the team.

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Kevin Keegan – included Butt and Smith but was still reasonable

Here’s the list of points we made on Friday in our preview and what actually happened.

  • All players picked in their regular positions
    This happened but some of the players picked were not our strongest selection. Kevin did play N’Zogbia at left back but with Milner and Duff doing quite well on the wings this is a way to have all 3 in the team at once. However, Enrique wasn’t even on the bench and he cannot be too happy at the moment.The defense was close to the best we could have put out which is a little scary given how vulnerable they were yesterday and conceded another 5 goals.
  • Leave Smith out of the team – he doesn’t deserve to start given his last 2-3 performances
    Didn’t happen and he played the whole 90 minutes and he was as ineffective as ever. In fact when Andrew Carroll came on he looked a lot more threatening and set up Faye’s goal.
  • Give Carroll a start or bring him on as substitute
    Came on as a substitute and was probably the only good thing that happened yesterday. He is not fazed in the least by these big games and we think he will be challenging for a start sooner than people may realize. Apparently he’s been impressive in training and his 6’3″ frame gives us physical presence in the box. Play him!
  • Start both Faye and Beye
    It happened and we think the defense was close to the best we can field 🙁

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Jose Enrique – why isn’t Jose being given a chance?

  • Give Jose Enrique a chance at left full back and please don’t start Carr there
    Didn’t happen although Carr didn’t play – because he was injured. What’s going on with Enrique. Whenever we see him he’s been good but if he cannot get a game in this defense he mustn’t feel that he has much future at the club. We wouldn’t.

Apart from Butt and Smith starting and Enrique not being included the team wasn’t too bad. So what happened?

The team as a whole, and individually played well below their potential. We think the players have to take a hard long look in the mirror and ask themselves if they are earning their wages.

The answer is no and they need to do something about that.

Comments welcome.


64 comments so far

  • valle

    Feb 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #41

    At times it feels like we are freakin cursed… If there is suck a thing as luck, then we certainly lack it in general.

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  • ronaldeano

    Feb 24, 2008 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #42

    youre too right Valle!

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  • Leo* I HATE NICKY BUTT

    Feb 24, 2008 at 6:17 PM

    Comment #43

    it is beyond belief, why butt smith and barton get into the team

    compared to enrique who deserves to be and isnot even on the bench!!! madness

    NICKY BUTT OUT

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  • Whitt

    Feb 24, 2008 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #44

    Duff isn’t nearly dangerous enough going forward to keep Charlie at left back and Enrique out…

    i think Cacapa and Faye as CBs would be our strongest pairing.

    and i don’t want to see Geremi anywhere except on the right side. that has a lot to do with why he was so successful at the ACN. he was playing in his position…

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  • Nicky Butt is crap!

    Feb 24, 2008 at 6:53 PM

    Comment #45

    leo too right, my fellow nicky butt hater. it seems the worse you are the more solid your position in the team is.you just know fatty carr would have got a start yesterday if he was fit, which is a scary thought! people say we need 5 new players, out of the current crop id only wanna keep about 5 and buy about 15,seriously… i know we have been dodgy under managers b4 and not been far from the drop,buti have never been so worried! we cant buy a win right now and these bunch of under par dickheads are going to get us relegated! i wanna enrique and dukes in the next sqaud and i want to see nicky butthead on a one way plane journey to nowhere… does keegan really understand that smith, butt and jailbird are a joke….mark hughes come and save us!

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  • CJ

    Feb 24, 2008 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #46

    Ed- I have to disagree what you say about Enrique that he has been good every time we have seen him cos he has had some very poor games but he would do a better job than any player at the club at lb.

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  • ChrisG

    Feb 24, 2008 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #47

    Were f***ing shite. Luckily so are teams below us. God help us! we are gonna have to put with very ordinary football before anything improves. Years, no quick fixes. ie next season is mid table stability.

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  • ChrisG

    Feb 24, 2008 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #48

    Mark hughes come and save us! shut up. Oh, how f**k*n suprising, idiots already calling for his head. Go to sunderland and support them, u unloyal twa*.

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  • nicky tutt

    Feb 24, 2008 at 9:45 PM

    Comment #49

    butt should go to sunderland

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  • scott 9

    Feb 24, 2008 at 9:53 PM

    Comment #50

    kk needs time its pretty obvious but he needs some qaultiy players were gonna have to pay silly money for players in the summer and offer ridiculous wages like west ham did last summer as that is the only way there gonna come to us

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  • scott 9

    Feb 24, 2008 at 9:54 PM

    Comment #51

    for example if we wanted someone like aiden mcgeady were gonna have to offer about 14m and pay him 80 000 a week

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  • marcus owen

    Feb 24, 2008 at 11:16 PM

    Comment #52

    To let them scored the first goal was far too easy. No way N’Zogbia can play LB. If KK doesn’t want to give Enrique or Edgar a chance, then he better change to 5-3-2.

    Harper
    Beye–Cacapa–Faye–Taylor–N’Zogbia
    Milner–Owen–Duff
    Martin–Viduka

    Carroll, Lua Lua as sub.

    No more Smith, Butt, Carr and Barton.TQ.

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  • Reb

    Feb 25, 2008 at 12:47 AM

    Comment #53

    Owen in midfield? Talk about playing someone out of position! Part of the problem yesterday was Owen ending up in midfield more often than not, trying to do other players’ jobs. What’s the point of having the club’s best finisher in midfield? If you must play a striker in mid, try Martins before Owen. Younger legs, for one reason, and a lot more likely to score from deep and make kamikaze-style runs whilst simultaneously far less likely to poach something and make intelligent runs in the box.

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  • Cape Toon

    Feb 25, 2008 at 5:26 AM

    Comment #54

    Can we do any worse with Carrol, Edgar, Lua Lua in the side? Give the youngsters a chance. They must be itching to have a go at the “benchmark” set by some of the current senior (“citizens”) players. Play Faye in front of Taylor/Cacapa. Carrol up front. Give Lua Lua some more game time – sub for Duff or a fatigued Milner. Play Jose “6 million pound man – sitting on his 6 million pound a…” Enrique. I hate you Sam Allardyce – you will be haunting us until the end of the season.

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  • jane

    Feb 25, 2008 at 8:36 AM

    Comment #55

    Stop sobbing. We all wanted KK to lead us. Then for christ sake let him do that. Funny how all of you believes you’re a better manager than him. LOL. KK knows the players better than everyone. If he uses Butt and Smith then I would guess it’s the best choice at the time.
    Judge him halfway next season.
    PS. Still like Smithy thou’. Nice haircut….

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  • hanzemre

    Feb 25, 2008 at 8:41 AM

    Comment #56

    Please KK drop your favourites of Barton, Butt & Smith & play N’Zogbia-Emre(if FIT?) as CM/Faye (DM) ,Enrique/Edgar in LB (NOMORE N’Zogbia). Your favourism of selecting these poor players/wrong position must stop now. Believe me we’d do much much better against Blackburn with no start of Butt,Barton & Smith. FGS KK please wake up!
    PS : love all to do the best for NUFC soon & kill the ghost of Big Sam laughing/haunting at us.

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  • Mr T

    Feb 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #57

    The first goal in essence was Zog’s fault, but in reality he’s not a fullback, and is far more liable to make errors like that, cos he’s not used to doing that all match, as you said whats wrong with Enrique? He’s not even getting a run out in the reserves is he, and he’s an under 21 international…surely we should get him match fit like that?!?!

    Butt should get dropped, Barton should sit on the bench. Smith should hang up his boots and stop trying, cos he’s not even a footballer! Did you see how he gifted Rooney his second, goos strike yeah, but I’ve seen better pub football, and by that I mean kids playing in the carpark. Emre and Zogbia or Emre and Faye should be in the centre as they both have technique and can make the ball work.

    Owen, Martins and Carroll should be in a rotation system.

    Given should never of been started either, Harps is the man!

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  • jane

    Feb 25, 2008 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #58

    Mr.T
    Do you fancy KK at all?

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  • marcus owen

    Feb 25, 2008 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #59

    Owen in MF.

    Reasons;

    1) Since he lost his pace, he is no more a scary striker to the opposition. He can’t run past defender with his pace like last time and of course his header may not be as good as Shearer due to his height. So, he only can scored when opposition defender is sleeping.

    2) We need a MF playmaker badly.Emre always get injured and his fitness is another question.Owen should try and show that he can do the link-up play and especially he is the team captain now. Forget about Butt and Barton from now on.

    3) This is part of the reason and special for Reb,
    If you can score,you may not necessarily to be the striker for today’s EPL.Just look at Ronaldo, Fabregas, Gerrard, Lampard, etc.In another word,if you can’t score,you will never score a single goal for the team as a striker or what.Just look at Alan Smith.

    I really hope that KK can be brave enough to do some changes to the team selection. It is so disappointed to see the same team selection for the Man U game.

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  • Mr T

    Feb 25, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #60

    Never was keen on KK coming back…

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  • Martin

    Feb 25, 2008 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #61

    I think the midfield is the heart of the problem – in terms of creating chances and helping the defence. Butt should be dropped on form, he started the season quite well and was a number of people’s player of the season last year, but right now he’s awful. Barton has still to show anything like a decent performance for 90 mins.
    Smith continues to do nothing but run around and foul the opposition. Mind you, he did manage a shot on target yesterday – his third of the season I think! Emre could be the answer, but never seems to stay fit or free from suspension for long enough to have a run in the team and perform consistently.
    Milner and Duff have been ok generally, but not enough end product i.e. shots or crosses. Zog should probably be restored to midfield or winger, but do we have a fit/capable left-back? Presumably Enrique is not considered one or the other.

    Up front, we need Viduka and/or Martins fit to partner Owen. We also need to provide the strikers with a sniff of a chance at some point in a game!

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  • Whumpie

    Feb 25, 2008 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #62

    I think KK puts it absolutely right: we’re making individual mistakes because our confidence is shattered. Let’s not forget that pretty much the same happened when KK took over last time – the slide continued for a while before it turned around. And he didn’t have 6 of the toughest fixtures of the season as a starter.

    On Saturday we lost to Manure by the same number of goals as Arsenal did a few days earlier, and unlike them, we put one past the Red Spactards.

    I think we showed promise down the wings, but neither winger can cross accurately enough. I think our midfield is dreadful in both defence and attack, exasperating the lack of organisation in defence by never giving them time to re-group. And most of all, we’re gasping for cleverness in midfield for both defence and attack. God, I miss Solano and Speed.

    BUT: I have to disagree with Dragoner. Would BSA have done better with these 6 fixtures? No chance. We’d have scored nowt and shipped even more. At least we spent most of the Man-U game with more than 2 players in their half…

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  • Toontitan

    Feb 25, 2008 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #63

    I think the game was over for me when I saw Owen taking a throw-in well inside our own half – what’s that all about???
    If Enrique isn’t fit/good enough try young Edgar – he’s been a rock for the stiffs all season, and try Beye at centre-half with Faye – at least they can communicate together – and play Geremi at right back, he was voted right-back of the ANC – so can’t be too bad there!
    Taylor is too slow for a young ‘un and his attempted tackle on Ronaldo for his second was hopeless.
    As for the midfield, I think we need a wholesale clearout – there isn’t one player good enough on a consistent basis to warrant a first team place (maybe Zog, but if he wants away, let him go)

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  • Reb

    Feb 25, 2008 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #64

    re: Owen in the midfield

    1) Owen “lost” his pace in 2003 (a progression since about 2000) — he’s been a “scary” striker for a lot of defences since then, I’m sure. He doesn’t look any slower to me now than he did before he done his knee. Also, why put a slow player in midfield? Isn’t that part of Newcastle’s problem with Butt, for instance? Of the strikers, Martins has the legs for midfield. Owen’s been winning a fair number of headers for the last few years (I mean, before he did his knee as well) — including two goals of late. I think his skills with headers is quite good considering he’s 5’8″ (maybe) with his boots on. Let Owen poach, it’s what he’s best at.

    2) How sad. F***ing pathetic that Newcastle have to move their best finisher into midfield because of a need for a “playmaker”. No one can complain then about Owen not contributing enough. Point though, that the other strikers probably couldn’t perform that duty (maybe Martins, if having a good day with his touch). How damning is it that Owen may be one of the more versatile players on the pitch? The same player who people constantly say can only play one way and one position.

    3) Owen isn’t that type of player. He’s rarely scored from outside the box throughout his career. He’s wasted more than about 16 yards out.

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