Beating Birmingham Will Be Difficult

We look to Newcastle to go all out for the win at St. Andrews on Monday night, but we are having our doubts if we can win, unless we can produce some of our best away form of the season.


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Bob Moncur seems to be a little wary of that game too, mainly because of the lack of guts and spirit currently in our squad. It is also an away game, where our players have gone missing in action far too regularly this season.

Bob Moncur talked to the Newcastle Evening Chronicle today about the general relegation battle we are in. This is what the former Newcastle United captain had to say about the vital game on Monday night:

“Birmingham are fighting for their lives and they are really showing a lot of fire.”

“In contrast, it is a long time since I’ve seen United fighting for their lives especially in some away games.”

“Newcastle haven’t shown any real fire but they have shown a little bit of fear and that’s what worries me.”

“Birmingham have a good attitude and they have been there before in a scrap.”

“So come Tuesday morning, if Newcastle have picked up a point at St Andrews I will be happy.”

So Bob will be happy with a point, which at least will prevent Birmingham gaining on us. We’d be satisfied with anything but a defeat, because a defeat will put Birmingham above us by one point and their goal difference is +14 goals better than ours.  That is staggering, but that’s what happens when you give up in games and the other team bangs in one goal after another.     🙁

A defeat will certainly put extra pressure on the team to produce against 2nd bottom placed Fuham the following Saturday, at St. James’ Park.

But Alex McLeish did wonders when he was manager of Scotland, and he had that team playing out of their skins against Italy in two memorable performances.

Unfortunately for us there are definite signs that he’s starting to have a similar impact at St. Andrews. And Alex himself was a lion-hearted defender, who was capped 77 times by Scotland. It could well be that his personality is starting to rub off on the Birmingham players, just like it did on the Scottish players.

If it gets down to who wants to win the most, we have some doubts about our lot, if we were brutally honest, our players that is.

Comments welcome.

38 comments so far

  • ObaFan2

    Mar 14, 2008 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #1

    Never heard so much in the press from Moncur in ages and makes a refreshing change hearing wise words from the man time after time.

    Sick and tired of hearing from the players tbh.

  • Viper

    Mar 14, 2008 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #2

    Well to be honest, I’m not a betting man, but I have put a fiver on a 1-1 for this game. Of course I’d much prefer a win, but as said with the now seeming determination in the brum squad…
    Happy to lose five quid for a win or more if I knew positive Toon outcome!
    Come on lads, prove me wrong!

  • Bluenose

    Mar 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #3

    You toon boys dont stand a chance. No fight in your side at all and the last team that played us at St Andy’s with no fight in them was Spurs. What happened to them!

  • Rich

    Mar 14, 2008 at 4:56 PM

    Comment #4

    I am really looking for a win and so should the team, in terms of quality we should be winning these games, this said a draw will be ok as long as we get 3 points against Fulham which would give us 32 points and a step closer to safety! Probably only a win and a draw away Reading and Sunderland hopefully!!

  • Davies

    Mar 14, 2008 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #5

    It’s a shame to find us talking about a draw against Birmingham being a good result. People seem to forget who we have in our squad and what they should be able to do.

    We are, after all, Newcastle United.

    We have, however, waited too long for our dormant giants to wake up. They have had chance after chance to prove that they are better than the teams struggling around us, but have seemed oblivious to the dangerous position we are in until a reporter pushes a microphone under their noses.

    I am, sadly, not optimistic about our position on the table come Tuesday morning.

    I’ll be happy to be wrong. Very happy.

  • steve

    Mar 14, 2008 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #6

    I predict a defeat from our bunch of no hopers, could be 1-0 or 6-0 dependant on how early they score as we’ll just give up as soon as that happens

  • Viper

    Mar 14, 2008 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #7

    Full of optimism eh?
    I know what you mean by “shite. we’re 1 down, so f**k it. we’ve lost. so no point in trying.”
    However. Heads up and come on Toon, prove us wrong!

  • ScottyT

    Mar 14, 2008 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #8

    a point is needed at the very least against brummy but 3 pts are an absolute must against fulham on a week on satday thats one of the 3 biggest games at home that weve had for years

  • belfast toon

    Mar 14, 2008 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #9

    i’m hearing on a few site’s that ashley is already getting ready to push kk up the stairs or out the door could their be any truth in this o just the usual doom merchants

  • GP

    Mar 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #10

    Bluenose – You brum boys don’t stand a chance. We have Given, Carr and Duff at our club and they’re all in the IRA. What happened the last time the IRA went to Birmingham!

  • micepie

    Mar 14, 2008 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #11

    If – a huge IF – we could win at Birmingham it would be massive. We’d be 5 points clear of Birmingham for starters (despite our often woeful performances this season)! (

    I’d go for Faye and Barton in midfield (unless Emre is fit), Diatta alongside Beye in the centre and Edgar at right-back (Enrique lb) . Zog the leftwing, Duff on the right and Owen & Viduka up front. In any case, we need every player to be in 5th gear.

  • belfast toon

    Mar 14, 2008 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #12

    have a bit of sense gp you twat thats hardly funny

  • GP

    Mar 14, 2008 at 6:09 PM

    Comment #13

    belfast toon – Do me a favour friend, go to Shankill and sing “Celtic Symphony”. Note the reactions of people around you and then, if possible, report back here. Off you go, your mission awaits!

  • Tripp

    Mar 14, 2008 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #14

    This all shows why it’s a very good idea to have an academy and good reserve side. The Brums and Wigans, etc have a lot of fight and heart because they’ve all been through a lot together. There’s much more cohesion and support there because those lads have had to fight and work their arses off to be where they are now. Meanwhile, we’ve got a frankensquad filled with wankers and asshats that can’t be arsed to support each other or work very hard. They don’t care because they’ll just go somewhere else at the end of the day and they know it. Heart and fight might not always beat class (esp if the class is accompanied by a good esprit d’corps) but at the wrong end of the table it means a lot, as we’re finding out this season.

  • Tripp

    Mar 14, 2008 at 6:11 PM

    Comment #15

    On a completely different note, can someone explain the “Wee’s keys are these” thing from that “dirty monkey mackems” vid on youtube. I have know idea what they’re on about.

  • belfast toon

    Mar 14, 2008 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #16

    i’m no going too get into a fight with someone who hasn’t got a clue what their talking about and is about as funny s cancer

  • Ben

    Mar 14, 2008 at 6:27 PM

    Comment #17

    Keegan if by any small chance u some how randomly come across this web page then please listen to the team being mooted for slecetion:

    Quite clearly Nicky Butt and Alan Smith have compromising pictures of Ashley and Keegan,only logical explanation for their inclusion,dont get me rworng,everyoine loves someone who works hard,but both are VERY VERY average!

    Team (not that it matters as the above 2 will play)


    Beye Faye Diatta Enrique

    Duff Geremi Barton N’Zogbia

    Owen Martins

    Subs:Viduka (second half), Caroll, Butt (to give the ball away on the edge of the box in the 88th minute to larson who scores a belter), Lua-lua,Smith.

    Your all probably thinking, Diatta?why?Taylor,great passion, not positional sense,diatta is a scrapper,we need somehting new in defence,leak goals weeke in week out so might as well try somehting new, no he has no real premiership experienc, but what he does has is an understnading with beye and faye who are his fellow internationals!


    Only team in the world where the fans want to of their players to be suspended!

    Get behinde the team on Monday!

  • GP

    Mar 14, 2008 at 6:33 PM

    Comment #18

    Yeah whatever ya fenian twat, go sing your soppy rebel songs in your ratty watering holes. You can have a chat to all your mates about how you’re going to drive the Brits out and all that other bollocks when you know fine well that you’re a coward who would never fight. Peace process…bollocks to that, Ulster is British.

    p.s. I do have a reasonable account of what I’m talking about, as history is my second favourite hobby, after football of course. My great grandfather on my mothers side of the family also went into the IRA after WWI. Dirty bastard.

  • richie

    Mar 14, 2008 at 6:38 PM

    Comment #19

    gp u sound like a little kid in the school yard, this is football not ire v eng

  • GP

    Mar 14, 2008 at 6:54 PM

    Comment #20

    You defeatist scum, it’s not about england vs ireland at all. YOU are the one who has no clue about the troubles.

    There you go, have a read. There’s no english nation anyway and there never will be, we’re British.

  • belfast toon

    Mar 14, 2008 at 6:56 PM

    Comment #21

    gp what planet are you from you dick i’m as british and orange as anyone. the ira are the scum that grows on the scum of the earth thats why jokes about thern’t funny. did you take the yellow bus too school

  • belfast toon

    Mar 14, 2008 at 6:58 PM

    Comment #22

    and don’t try give me a history lesson i live here

  • GP

    Mar 14, 2008 at 7:15 PM

    Comment #23

    I was directing that wiki link to richie. Obviously I’m not about to talk down to a person who lives in Ulster.

  • shaunm

    Mar 14, 2008 at 9:04 PM

    Comment #24

    GP go suck a cock uve obviously got a dildo for a brain! Martins to start 2mora !!!!!

  • CJ

    Mar 14, 2008 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #25

    Gp- Go and see one or does it stand for your favourite thing’s gay porn and gay prostitutes you fooking half wit ponce .

  • richie

    Mar 14, 2008 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #26

    hahahah gp u gimp

  • richie

    Mar 14, 2008 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #27

    ed ban him,hes a terrible character

  • Bluenosesol

    Mar 14, 2008 at 11:57 PM

    Comment #28

    Despite our position, we have a decent record against the top 6 teams and a poor record against the bottom 6.Any team that comes to Blues on a losing streak tend to win. I pray that I am proven wrong. By the way GP my grandads were a northern protestant and a southern catholic. My wife is protestant and I am catholic, but do you know what? – I love them ALL, same as I love Newcastle. I have worked and visited often. A great thriving city full of proud working class people. Just like brum..

  • Punk Skunk

    Mar 15, 2008 at 12:03 AM

    Comment #29

    gp, what’s up with ya man, please don’t write shit like that on here!..& anyway we’re Geordies not brits, english or whatever! my view, that’s what makes us different???!!!?..

  • Punk Skunk

    Mar 15, 2008 at 12:07 AM

    Comment #30

    Don’t alienate our Irish fans!..
    …Or our fans from any other place for that matter!..

  • Leo

    Mar 15, 2008 at 12:53 AM

    Comment #31

    3-0 to the geordie boys… thats what it is going to be…

  • CJ

    Mar 15, 2008 at 2:21 AM

    Comment #32

    Gimp Professional.GP

  • ScottyT

    Mar 15, 2008 at 2:49 AM

    Comment #33

    i admire ya confidence leo lol if thats the score then ill eat my black and white scarf…

    just imagine if we actually won a game im sure it feels good. i reckon draw 1-1.

  • Brummie Rob

    Mar 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #34

    Goes GP stand for Giant Prick by any chance? We’re talking about football no here and some tosser makes comments about the Birmingham Pub bombings and the killing of innocent people who were just out for a drink and a good night out! Well done mate!! How to improve British/Irish relationships in one foul swoop!! Good luck to you Geordie boys for the rest of the season. I’m sure that you won’t go down? Just hope that your bad run doesn’t end on Monday night!!! Great bunch of working class, down to earth people. Terrffic support. Just like us Brummies.
    GP just confirms my fears, that it’s still not worth visiting Ireland, with an idiot like that still around.

  • Phil P

    Mar 15, 2008 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #35

    GP youre a prick. and trying to make a reasoned argument you refere to wiki lol. go and crawl under a rug.

  • Leo

    Mar 15, 2008 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #36

    GP with your mindless comments made you have probably lost alot of respect on hear.

    whatever happened with the IRA is not any interest on hear, it is terrible that innocent people will die in anyway…

    do everyone a favour keep off the subject in future.

  • Disinterested Bystander

    May 8, 2008 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #37

    I’d also like to understand the expression “”WEE’S KEYS ARE THESE?”

    I don’t live in the UK, so I have no idea where this comes from. Would someone help shed some light on the matter?

  • Ed Harrison

    May 8, 2008 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #38

    Disinterested Bystander – it means
    “whose keys are these?


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