Big Sam – Newcastle Destined To Be Great Club


Big Sam Allardyce, who we thought would be almost the perfect manager for Newcastle, when he signed last May, has today backed his former club with some good words.

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Sam Allardyce – lasted just 8 months as Newcastle Manager

The former Bolton Wanderers coach lasted eight months in charge at St. James’ Park (May 15th 2007 – January 9th, 2008) before being replaced eventually by Kevin Keegan.

Sam has admitted he was at one time a little bitter about his ordeal in the North-East (and that’s what it was), he also thinks the Tyneside club would do well to settle on a manager for the long term.

Sam talked today to the Times,

“Newcastle are destined to be a great club down the line.”

“But the longer it goes without success the harder it is to achieve it and they can’t do it by changing managers all the time.”

“I’ve no real bitterness over my departure anymore. I’ve moved on.”

Sam then suggested that a some stability and permanance would have done the team no harm in their quest for survival this season.

“We were finding a way of playing, having changed everything behind the scenes,”

“The players were still learning to blend. It was a question of patience.”

“It is like building the Empire State Building in a month. It can’t be done.”

We honestly think in retrospect that Big Sam was given a raw deal at the club. When you appoint a manager he should be given a minimum of one season to work through things. We’d certainly not be where we are now if Sam had stayed.

That’s because the team has a different way of playing – for the third time in 9 months. We went from Glennn Roeder’s style, to Sam’s style, and now to Kevin Keegan’s style. In truth of course, most Newcastle fans like Keegan’s style, but it may be very costly, if we cannot avoid relegation this season.

The last thing Newcastle United any time soon is another manager.

Give Kevin a chance whatever happens this season.

To Mike Ashley and Chris Mort we would would say what our mother, now deceased, used to tell us – you’ve made your bed, now lie in it!

You cannot keep swapping and changing things and expect stability – and what you sow you will reap – whether you like it or not.

So hey, we fully agree with Big Sam on that one. But really good words from Sam about our club, and we appreciate that.

And we’ve learned through living life for quite a while 😀 that it just doesn’t work to hold grudges.

Why ? Because it hurts you more than anybody else – isn’t that the truth.

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152 comments so far

  • GP

    Mar 16, 2008 at 8:16 PM

    Comment #1

    It seems to me that the majority of our ex-managers – bar Gullit – usually have nothing but good words for the club and it’s fans. Even Souness said while it wasn’t the biggest club he managed it was probably the most unqiue. Anyway, I can’t fault anything Allardyce said there and I think we all know that Allardyce was never right for this club, we’ve never kept a manager who never tried to play football long, but good luck to him in the future.

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  • toonbully

    Mar 16, 2008 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #2

    Sorry but I really don’t give a brass farthing what BSA thinks about Newcastle . He really made us into a Bolton Second XI , and if anybody thinks different then , they should just look at how long it will take KK to get us playing football along the deck again . We did not have a midfield when Sam was here he got the defence to boot it straight forward aver the head of our middle fower.

    And what’s that glass thing he’s carrying the longest throw award 3 seasons runnning do me a favour don’t show yer heed in SJP ever again that would be nice .

    Right let’s see if we can clear up the mess you left …ye tw*t !
    Cheers for the airplay hope I wisna too offensive . Lets stuff the brummies !

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 8:41 PM

    Comment #3

    of course toonbully, because we were a good team before allardyce came werent we?…NO! get real & stop looking to blame people. This club is in a mess because for DECADES idiots have made idiotic decisions, simple.

    that includes kk decision to get rid of the reserves

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  • scott9

    Mar 16, 2008 at 8:44 PM

    Comment #4

    sam should never have been sacked he would have turned us around hes a great manager people say he plays boring football and its all long ball he only did that at bolton he did the best with what he got and when he was with us he didnt have the players to play great football there was no real creativity in the team you cant get players to pass the ball about when them players are not comfortable with passing the ball about like we wanted the first thing on sams mind was results ok we didnt win every game but we were sitting in mid table and thats were we would have finished maybe even further up if he had got the players in just to think he had diarra coming in what a diifference he would have made managers need time and sam didnt get that he was treated unfairly no matter what anyone says.
    you telling me we played boring football in these games when we had everyone fit
    bolton 3-1
    tottenham 3-1
    west ham 3-1
    wigan 1-0
    everton 3-2
    birmingham 2-1
    man city 0-2 we may have lost but i was at the game and we should have hammered them.
    arsenal 1-0
    chelsea lost 2-1 but we still played well
    if sam was still manager he woudld have broughtt some great players to the club like he did at bolton once he had a solid teame.g jay jay okocha stelios diouf anelka campo guerkuff

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  • daiv

    Mar 16, 2008 at 8:47 PM

    Comment #5

    Sam can afford to be magnanimous about the Toon. He copped £6M for 6 months work. Not bad if you can get it!!!! NUFC mugged again.
    Another thing Ed, if KK relegates NUFC ( and the odds must be decent if he keeps picking Barton Butt and SMITH in particular) don’t tell me we should stick with the manager. MA brought KK into the club to improve things … not get us relegated. The only reasom MA may stick with Kevin if we get relegated would be because he would look a muppet to sack him when he appointed him in January. But look at it another way Ed, do you think MA would keep kevin with the same run of results and eventual relegation if KK was not MA’s choice and KK was in post when Ashley took over the club? No way. That is why MA should bite the bullett and look a muppet, for the sake of NUFC, and sack keegan if we get relegated. He may even do it if we lose to Fulham.

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 8:52 PM

    Comment #6

    scott9 we didnt beat arsenal and yes most of those results you mentioned we played bad, boring football, which i was very against. I also disagree with you about sam being a “great” manager, he is a decent manager but is only seen as “great” in comparison to most english managers as most are utter crap. however, i also feel sacking sam in january was dumb, no manager should get sacked at such a key moment in time, esecially when it was obvious we needed to strengthen our team.

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  • toonhitman

    Mar 16, 2008 at 8:58 PM

    Comment #7

    we are a sleeping giant just got a bunch of clowns running and playing for the club

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  • daiv

    Mar 16, 2008 at 8:58 PM

    Comment #8

    Another thing Ed,
    I am sick to the back teeth of managers, ex managers, players and explayers that NUFC is a sleepinh giant and destined for great things. heard it for 45 years. At some poiny, maybe after 30 years, you come to realize that they are all talking bollocks. The younger bloggers are new to the game and are no doubT avid readers of this nonsense as I used to be. Not won the league since 1927. Massive and loyal support with money in the bank but not a massive club. For that you need to win something at least now and again. LAST LEAGUE WIN 82 years ago and no prospect of winning the league in my lifetime.

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  • whitey

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:01 PM

    Comment #9

    sack the messiah daiv? is he to blame for the mess in messiah? i was a big sam fan and thought he would do well for the toon. he bought poorly, but we dont know how much coin he had from ashley. as for keegan he doesnt seem to be able to make the big decisions in the interest of the toon. why the hell is smith still starting. the problem was ashley wanted the romantic reunion in the hope of appeasing the geordie faithful. appointing keegan was wrong, i would have loved to have seen deschamps in charge, tactically astute and with proven pedigree. yes ashley has paid of our debts, but in the time hes been in charge weve regressed quite considerably. its not the toon manager which should be debated or up for question, but tweedle dumb and tweedle dee who are running us

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  • daiv

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:12 PM

    Comment #10

    Whitey,
    sam bought poorly except Beye but the team should not be where it is. Keegan selects the worst players (Butt Smith Barton) based on reputation and not form. The Messiah was my hero 10 years ago but is clearly past it. Blind faith is stupid. KK is in the canoe without a paddle going towards the cliff edge and is clueless how to stop the canoe going off the edge. MA and Mort are not football people. They sacked sam in January without a replacement lined up. Stupid. They chose KK who has not been in football for 3 years and won nothing. His last posting at City was a failure in the end. Would they have appointed a guy to run their Sports Direct business in similar circumstances? No way. Its all hit and miss.

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:15 PM

    Comment #11

    one good thing about the horrible mess that was the january transfer is the fact that mike ashley spending no cash clearly shows we are clearing out BIG TIME in the summer. if i were doing a clearout it would be pointless buying in january, january is for strengthening

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  • Graham

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:17 PM

    Comment #12

    Not quite good words, just not slagging us off for the first time since he was peddled.

    And Ed, If I had just pumped £250m of my own cash into something I’d want to have my own man running the thing – not some egotistical balloon employed by a fat waster of a predecessor…….

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  • daiv

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:18 PM

    Comment #13

    Ed
    Why are so many fans Keegan admirers. He left us in the lurch without any explanation. We won 7 1 against Spurs and were 4 points off the top and he walked out. No explanation. No wonder Shearer is cheesed off with him. KK got him to NUFC and walked out on Alan soon afterwards. I bet Alan was promised all sorts to get him here. Then a few years later, KK is interviewed and says ther is no way he would return as manager to NUFC. Pardon me!! Well he has come back. he has some “unfinished business.” Relegation by any chance.

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  • Graham

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:19 PM

    Comment #14

    BTW, I watched the Lemington Labour Club V Blutcher Social club cup final today and witnessed better football on a windy bumpy pitch than I ever saw whilst Allardyce was in charge – some proper tackles as well!

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:21 PM

    Comment #15

    Beye, Enrique and Faye were all good signings.

    You cant blame sam for buying rozehnal, he was PSG’s player of the season last yr and great in France. Geremi was a good utility player for chelsea, Cacapa had been great for Lyon over the years and was probably needed for experience. All of these players have been described as “poor buys” but who would have known they would come to the Toon and disappoint? (although i feel cacapa is much better than he is given credit for) We should judge Sam’s buys on the reasons for buying each player.

    The trully awful signing sam made were Smith, Barton, I ony say Barton because of the excess baggage he brings. These are awful because there is trully no good reason why we bought these two players.

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  • Leo

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:22 PM

    Comment #16

    how could he ever be bitter, with all that money deposited into his bank. he could get his job back at bolton next season when they are in the championship and bring them back up, then be a legend with them once again

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  • GP

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:25 PM

    Comment #17

    They’re new to this football ownership stuff to be fair, and it’s not like Man City where the basic infrastructure is already there, up here it’s trying to repair 10 years of mismanagement in the boardroom within one season. It can’t be done, we just have to accept we have to wait even longer for a trophy. The only fear I have is that the fans won’t accept that we’re not capable of winning and call for the managers head as usually happens. Bloody hell it’s hard to support this club but I wouldn’t swap it for anything in the world.

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  • ScottyT

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:26 PM

    Comment #18

    scott9 wigan 1-0 was awful we were lucky to win and yes the football was crap, birmingham 2-1 was agen crap and agen lucky to win both late goals. villa 0-0 was a very lucky draw some great saves from our keeper, ,man c away was awful defending and agen crap, derby at home and away terrible, reading away shite, wigan away shite, sunderland away pathetic, liverpool home most pathetic game and tactics ever, portsmouth home pathetic, stoke 0-0 away pathetic lucky for a draw

    so if am being honest i deent giv 2 fks about sams comments his results, tactics, style and performances deserved a sacking. we were a second rate bolton side who tbh were lucky to get the amount of points we did.

    agree that the amount of times we have changed our style of play recently isnt good for the team but for this only fat fred is to blame.

    everyone knew that when glenn roeder was doin well that he wouldnt be as good when full time manager or at least i did (havnt a bad word to say abput roeder mind did his best for the club). sams style was my problem and in the end it still was. our managerial appointments have been awful whether you include keegan in that is left to be seen..

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:28 PM

    Comment #19

    i do not care much for a trophy, i can accept we might not win a trophy for ages, i just want us to have a good structure to build around and play some good football…oh yeah, and not be a laughing stock for once

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  • ScottyT

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:30 PM

    Comment #20

    oh yeah and the signings i forgot bout that smith is the biggest waste of 6m ever only beaten by the amount of money we paid for thuggy barton. hes an idiot honestly he would have had us signing other shitty overpriced nobodys who dont add anything to the team but boredom.

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  • richie

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:33 PM

    Comment #21

    most of our signings bad ,iv a feeling barton may have a performance in him at brum tho

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  • Whitt

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:34 PM

    Comment #22

    not sure how anyone could say we would definitely not be in this mess if we hadn’t sacked Sam…
    under sam we had:
    lost away and drawn home to Derby
    lost to Reading
    1-4 home to Pompey
    0-3 home to Liverpool
    and he had just presided over 0-0 to STOKE, and seemed happy about a performance where we didn’t threaten a championship side.

    he still had to preside over the same string of fixtures:
    Arsenal twice
    Man U twice
    Away to Villa
    Away to Liverpool
    Away to Middlesbrough
    Home to Bolton and Blackburn

    and the performances were getting steadily worse under him. no signs of easily avoiding relegation there…

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:39 PM

    Comment #23

    DRAWING WITH STOKE AWAY IS NOT AS BAD AS PEOPLE ON HERE SAY FOR *** SAKE! LOOK HOW GOOD THE UNDERDOGS HAVE BEEN IN THE FA CUP THIS YR, LOOK WHO IS LEFT IN THE COMPETITION! IF DRAWING WITH STOKE AWAY IS BAD THEN RAFA SHOULD GET SACKED FOR LOSING AT HOME TO ANFIELD! BUT NO, THE FANS STICK BEHIND HIM. IF THAT WERE NEWCASTLE HE WOULD BE SACKED THE NEXT DAY, PATHETIC!

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  • richie

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:39 PM

    Comment #24

    ye true whitt, sam had to go and im happy with kk, must win game tomo.hoping we stay up wat players can we attract because after and IF we gain survival il b all ears on possible transfer targets,it could b exciting stuff

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  • ScottyT

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #25

    exactly whitt my point entirely

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #26

    im so happy our head scout has been sacked, we need more foreign scouts and less english

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:43 PM

    Comment #27

    “and he had just presided over 0-0 to STOKE, and seemed happy about a performance where we didn’t threaten a championship side”

    that is a poor comment, we did threaten them and a draw with a championship team away is not that bad, look who is left in the FA Cup competition.

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  • Todd

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #28

    I don’t agree with those comments that we wouldn’t be in this situation if BSA was still here. Truth is, we just don’t know. He didn’t get fired because the team was playing well. He would play scared against teams like Derby – in my opinion he had to go.

    I’m glad it seems he’s finally put his bitterness behind him, and will stop trashing the club. That’s probably the only way he will find work elsewhere, as well.

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  • Hammy

    Mar 16, 2008 at 9:59 PM

    Comment #29

    Graham,
    Bet you didn’t pay £40 quid to get in and pay a £5 for a cup of tea and a mars bar……

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  • CRAIGG

    Mar 16, 2008 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #30

    Dragoner check man Utds scouts they are mostly English (British)

    What is this myth that foreign managers are better than English ones ?

    try foreign managers get more opportunities than english managers

    If a Manager in Spain had done what Steve Coppell did at reading last season he would be manager of Barcelona, Real Madrid or Valencia

    Or even What Sam did at bolton, he also had a geat record with his previous clubs, Compared to Ramos 11 clubs and only lasted a full season at 4.
    He flukily kept getting chances and a bought couple of trophys at Sevilla and now he is a top class coach at spurs, and what we lack apparently.

    Or even what Redknapp has done at pompey or Curbishley did at Charlton

    The thing people never mention is most of the top managers dont win trophies until they get to a top side with money and better players Mourinho or Benitez for example, And the opportunities abroad are there for their homegrown managers but not over here because of people like you who think the only talented coaches and players speak broken english.

    I will guarantee that if an English or British manager (O’Neill or Venables for example) took over liverpool after houllier with a squad containing Gerrard, Carragher, Owen, Finnan, Riise, Hyypia, Kewell, Cisse, Kirkland, Baros and Heskey then they would be closer to the title than they are under benitez.

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 10:33 PM

    Comment #31

    mostly being the keyword Craigg, everyone knows to sign top foreign talent you need foreign scouting staff, it is a no brainer. I wnder what scout found ronaldo, foreign or british? i could have a pretty good guess. Anyway Mourinho is not good examples of your ‘point’ as he achieved greatness at porto

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 10:34 PM

    Comment #32

    i also do not rate benitez so i will not argue with you on that point

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 10:36 PM

    Comment #33

    Alex Ferguson is British and he is one of the best, i give credit where it is due, thats all

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  • CRAIGG

    Mar 16, 2008 at 10:39 PM

    Comment #34

    My point about Mourinho is he went to Porto with a decent rep but no tropies as a manager he got the top job in portugal with the best players and the most money

    Could you see redknapp getting the chelsea job at the End of the season even if pompey finished top 4 and won the FA Cup ?

    My point is that if we never see English managers in the top jobs how can we say they arent good enough.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 16, 2008 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #35

    Who cares what Fat Sham says, hes still a tit.

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  • CRAIGG

    Mar 16, 2008 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #36

    We have Jeff Vetere, Tony Jiminez and didnt we sign an overseas scout the other day??

    But we still have to keep looking around the local area for the next Shearer, Gazza, Beardo, Waddle, Bruce, Carrick or Robson and the rest of the UK for the next Rooney, Terry, Gerrard, Giggs, Given Etc. So there is a point in having English and British Scouts also

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #37

    you can hardly compare porto to chelsea, yes it is one of the top jobs in portugal but their aren’t many top teams in that league. Premier League is of much higher quality and a lot more money is spent over here to be taking risks on English managers who haven’t achieved enough, therefore the reputation of English managers is not good and they wont get offered the top jobs. Think if you were the owner, would you take a risk on a english manager when foreign managers generally have more success and bring in some top foreign talent? you would go after the best person for the job wouldnt you

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 10:45 PM

    Comment #38

    maybe u misunderstand my point, i do not mean i dont want any british, but i feel we need just as many foreign scouts as english, it is about maximising the amount of knowledge the scouting team has. A scout from portugal is going to know more about the players over there than an italian scout etc

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  • dragoner

    Mar 16, 2008 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #39

    i dont think we have signed a scout yet, but we are going to sign one

    So Craigg it doesnt alarm you that our scouting team (from what i have read) is all british?

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  • CRAIGG

    Mar 16, 2008 at 10:48 PM

    Comment #40

    I wish Big Sam had got a better job than the one he had here because he was never going to get the five years he wanted and we dont do the long ball game in the toon.

    Because what he did with Bolton, Notts County or Limerick were much more impressive than ramos’ record pre-sevilla eclipses anything this Marcelino fella has done in spain

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