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If Newcastle Stay Up – An Exciting Summer Ahead


One of the reasons we are hoping (praying?) that we stay up this season, is that if we can get through this bad patch, the summer transfer window looks to be an exciting time for Newcastle’s fans.

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Kevin Keegan – has history of turning teams around quickly

Kevin has a history of quickly turning teams around, and he has said more than once that it will not take much to turn this side around, because he’s been consistent in saying the squad we have is already good.

That hasn’t been shown on the field since he arrived but to be fair to the players, they’ve had to change their style of play in mid-season, and dare we say it, there are signs they are starting to gel a lot more.

The full game against Blackburn, the first 43 minutes at Liverpool and the second half on Monday, Newcastle have looked a good attacking team, but our points return was abysmal for those performances. For about 2/3 of the time we’ve looked good in our last 3 games, but we have to get that up to 100% to really start going places. There are definite signs of improvement, that’s for sure. 😀

Even though our readers differ greatly on who played well on Monday, we have to pick our back four (Beye, Faye, Taylor, Enrique), and in addition Oba Martins, Michael Owen, Geremi and Nicky Butt as having strong games.

All of those players showed good fighting qualities, and we were surprised that Geremi looked so good, especially in that second period.

But if we survive we can expect some good players coming into the club in the summer, and out recruitment team of Dennis Wise, Tony Jimenez and Jeff Vetere are already working hard to not only identify the players, but even doing the deals if Kevin is happy with the players. And it seems there are plenty of good players available in the summer.

By the way ignore the Daily Mail stories on our recruitment team. They seem to want to cast Dennis Wise as the demon who is trying to cause unrest at the club while at the same time get Kevin’s job. Their reporting is about the biggest load of tripe we’ve ever read, but the paper’s probably selling well right now. 😀

Let’s get all 3 points on Saturday with no let down after Birmingham, and once we’re safe, we’ll start to run more stories on who we should bring in during the summer and who we should move out. Another exciting development is we’ve got a bunch of good youngsters, some of whom (Kadar, Tozer) will force their way into the first team reckoning next year.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.


77 comments so far

  • big pea ov the weab

    Mar 19, 2008 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #41

    i think we will stay up 3 points on sat will near enouf ensure our pl position next season as long as he leaves smith out of the team and brings charlie back i dont c a prob with winning

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  • CRAIGG

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #42

    Michael you are totally unique as i have never known of a newcastle fan have such a downer on Kevin Keegan

    The other day you stated that “All that Keegan has done for Newcastle is attractive football”
    Do you honestly hand on heart really believe that, Or have you forgotten about the saving of the club from relegation and bankruptcy, The 10 out of 10 run at the start of the next season, The 1st Division title that followed, the qualification for Europe for the first time in 23 years, and of course The Successive runners up spots in the league not to mention than this was in the space of 5 years and the legends he brought to the club.

    Now you think we should sell Oba Martins and Replace him with Emile Heskey and topping that you think that Gary Neville is a realistic transfer target.

    Also we should fund our bid for Kevin Nolan or Tim Cahill (who would never join) by selling Milner and N’Zogbia.

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  • Michael

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #43

    If the Money is right any of these players would leave their club. You are the same people who advocated Keegan had pulling power yet you question whether these player I have suggested would come. If the money is right any one can be enticed. Look at Beckham, already earning millions at Madrid and playing great competitive football and always being in contention for England yet when the Money was right LA galaxy got their man.

    So puff to your thesis that breaking into the top 4 would have Cahill stay. Everton no doubt do not splash the cash when dealing in wages so doubtless Cahill would move for a weekly wage of about 60 -80 K a week. These are wages we paid Dyer yet he was injury prone and scored less goals.

    Santa Cruz? Why not. Blackburn are not exactly setting the league alight a wage increase would be incetive enough to move, no?

    Aimar, – The premier league is the league to be and Real Zaragoza no doubt pay him a low wage compared to his conteporaries in the Premier League. Huth, we got Viduka did we not? so why not huth.

    Gary Neville, his good friend and contemporary butt can attest to life in Newcastle and thus entice him away. HE worked under Keegan once you forget, no douting that relationship should bring about a situation conducive for discussions.

    Riise, wants to leave liverpool. NEwcastle Fans contradict themselves, you Say we want a good defence, we get Sam who had a plan the befroe he sorted our defense we said we want attacking football. Riise is a very attacking defender and would dear himself with ever changing demands of the Newcastle supporters.

    Heskey, When he creats chances for our strikers we will praise him. Remember when Steve Mclaen called him back. He was amazing and the country praised him, yet he did not score. HE is a player who makes a team effort. A real team player, good in the air and complimentary to our smaller strikers. Very Complimentary. We can let Viduka and Martins go for a good fee.

    You ask how I would let Martins go? Well we want a team, not a player. If MArtins departure means we can build a team, is that not a small sacrifice to make. One for all not all for one. We have a team to consider and no one is bigger than the team. This is the sort of thing that made Shearer untouchable. Gullit paid the price when Shearer was not playing well and was droped. Now before you get on my back, you musty admit that Shearer was in poor form at the time and Gulitt left him out to try something new, what happend the fans turned on him. Look at the Monday night Game, when Keegan took Oab off, the same Keegan loyalists used various English expletives to express their disgust at Keegan. These are the same people deifying him.

    One player is not bigger than any club. Besides he cannot read a game

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  • wilhelm hango 4m namibia

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #44

    hola peeps th magpies loyal fans hola at me n lets become friends. im male english teacher 4m namibia. my email: wiley23@hotmail.com

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  • Michael

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:10 PM

    Comment #45

    Graigg you have been crying for change since Sam departed yet you want to keep the players you like. Zog and Milner have been playing have they not. If Zog is so good and Milner so Good and Martins So good. WTF are we in a relegation fight??????

    Why are we there. These players you have mentioned have been playing, where have they been in games, No where. They are not as good players as you make them out. You are trying to build a team around the players you like, working around problems rather than fixing the problem.

    If we keep zog, Milner, those are two players who should start meaning we would need two central mids. If we Keep Taylor and Enrique and Baye who everyone thinks is class then we get one central defender Right. We keep Martins then who playes beside him.
    #

    Only 11 players play and looking at the team it looks alot like this seasons, no?

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  • Leo Kompany for the Toon

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #46

    michael comment 23-

    is it bad that a team has one person who will try the unbelievable and attempt at goal from far out…

    also he has in the past undeservedly been dropped to the bench in favour of owen when martins has been playing well… so no wonder he wants to score because he feels that if he doesnt he will be dropped again- remember he is only 23 years old.

    also remember the goal he set up for owen with a beaut of a cross at st james park- the team we were against has missed my mind at the moment, so dont give us that cr@p that he is greedy

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  • Leo Kompany for the Toon

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #47

    all for one and one for all… hmmm. turn what you said about taking martins out, why him, did you forget that we have michael owen- who i believe to be a good footballer but do you think he will pass a ball when someone is in a better position than him but has a chance to shoot… i think you know the answer to that

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  • Michael

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #48

    Martins is greedy, You talk of one goal he set up in your argument for Martins. Please! bring more eveidence. MArtins is an instinct oriented footballer. We need thinking footballers who work with probabilities.

    If you know anything about animal psycology it is very applicable to human beings. You observe a state S(t) and then a set of valid actions for that state. You chose the action A(t) with the higest probability of meeting your goal that is to get your team a goal, yes. You should choose a valid action for that current state and then observe the next state S(t + 1) and then an action A(t + 1) for the proceeding state. all the while learning what you can do in a given state and which actions in those given states has the highest probability of achieving your Objective.

    This is not a dodo birds game. MArtins never learns and does not take the best action for the team. Unlike a learning Agent, Martins has no boundaries that govern his play and thus if he wishes he could score with his teeth hence why he sometimes score amazing goals. Martins uses a policy of Greedy which means he will take the actions with the highest value despite obsticles making it imposible.

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  • Michael

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #49

    Owen is injury prone and would not fetch as much on the Market as Martins. Owen is an asset that is comfortably into it’s depreciation and Martins, it is debatable if he has started. Remember we talk about him as has the potential, potential will mean nothing if ii is never realised.

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  • Michael

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #50

    Animal psychology: my mistake

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  • Ashton

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #51

    next season i would love to see

    GK : Green and Harper as back up
    RB : Beye and Edgar as a back up
    LB : Enrique and kadar tozer as back ups
    CB : Van Buyten , Mexes : Garay and Taylor as a back up
    DM :Tymoschuck , Annan and Barton as back up
    RM : Bentley , Kaloda
    LM :Mcgeady , Turan
    AM : Arshavin , and i heard that we are interested in Nasri i would love it if we signed him love it !!
    Striker : Oba , Owen . Gomis , and the scottish lad i forgot his name

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  • ScottyT

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #52

    craigg as good as diouf is he is one player i would just hate to see play for us. just remember when he scored 2 at st james park and strted taunting the fans what a prick .. konchesky wouldnt be good enough for me id rather have shorey/bridge or riise. and no for the person who said ramage is left footed .. he isnt lol

    actually would like the same signings as ‘the long shanks’ post if we are really wanting to push up the league we need quality. arshavin seems good would be difficult to get mind, would love carrick, bridge would be good for the left, bentley again difficult to get him to come here but would be worth w/e we pay and modric again seems to be a good young talent

    we need at least 5 or 6 quality new players in the summer if we are going to get near the top 8 teams atm.

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  • Ed Harrison

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #53

    Michael – top 6 next year – but when did you hear that last? 😀
    We think Keegan will make squad a lot lot stronger over the summer.
    BTW – have reworded the thing about our back 4 – we meant back 4 plus Oba, Michael etc – not that those were our back 4. 😀
    Howay Manchester United tonight (for once).

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  • Michael

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #54

    You see Craigg and Leo Company for the toon; this is what I talk about. Comment 52 Scotty T: Stats no matter how good Diouf is he does not want to see him in our team. Why must we sacrifice our performance because we do not like a player, not on how good he is but just because you do not like him.

    This is what is wrong with Newcastle, we Keep players and mangers not because they are good at what they, but because we like them.

    If they can do the right job get them in. It is simple. Look at Manchester united and Ronaldo. Did he not get Rooney sent off in the world cup, his attitude was horrendous but Manchester united a professional club not a pub team as people like you Scotty t want to make us, put these things behind them and look to benefit the team not your feelings. Roanldo has scored 20 plus goals this season and 17 last. Had they listened to fans like you after the world cup, Ronaldo would be doing it for Barcelona or Madrid.

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  • Ed Harrison

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #55

    Lads, there some great posts on here.
    How do we make this required reading for Kevin and his staff? 😀
    We could do a lot worse than some of the ideas on here, for what we should be doing in the summer.

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  • ScottyT

    Mar 19, 2008 at 4:56 PM

    Comment #56

    ok for ure idea of me wanting to make us a pub team that can be shoved up ur arse .. if anyone around here has a more negative attitude than you michael then i would like to see it .. constantly complaining on every post

    why not just get behind the team and support. i was simply stating that diouf is a right d**k and if he came to us it would just bring us yet more trouble surrounding our club with off field incidents etc. ive had enough of joey ‘the thug’ barton i dont want to hear about an assault trial or a spitting incident im more interested in football headlines tbh and more often than not diouf brings negative headlines .. or is that what you want michael to suit ur own style?

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  • Michael

    Mar 19, 2008 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #57

    I simply do not turn a blind eye on whats wrong. I do not complain, I criticise. A criticism is not a lambaste (verbal attack) or Lampoon (Written attack) but pointing out what is wrong so remedial action may be applied.

    I want to see Newcastle up there with the best, like any of the fans here. Come Saturday, Sunday or Monday, I back the whole team and the manager.

    Consider, if our team was doing well, you would not see these comments from any of our fans being critical of our plight.

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  • ScottyT

    Mar 19, 2008 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #58

    yes michael but that is the difference between some fans and others on here. some fans will only support and sing if the team is doing well, others try to be more positive and support while the team isnt doing so well in order to try and raise the players game.

    no wonder st james is so quiet recently if there are loads of fans out there who just sing when we are doing well like yourself

    i dont feel that critisicm in any sense of the word helps the club especially when you do it constantly. i try to give my honest opinions on all players and give ‘criticism’ when it is appropriate only. ‘support’ the team through failure and success its our job as fans!

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  • Hadji

    Mar 19, 2008 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #59

    Craigg…Were you hit with a wet sock or somethin mate,i was only refering to you cause i thought that 7 mill for Diouf and Cahill is too low.PEACE bro

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  • Hadji

    Mar 19, 2008 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #60

    I think that this guy should replace Butt for the next season,Ipswich paid 600 000 for him.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYw34fX8zaU
    They call him”Macedonian Steven Gerrard”

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  • CRAIGG

    Mar 19, 2008 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #61

    Hadji i apologize, Maybe it is too low and i dont like Diouf i was just looking for examples

    But Cahill signed for £5m in Jan i think if they go down they might take the same money.

    I wish i had never mentioned Diouf, Hangeland or Konchesky change them for Arshavin, Lugano and Bridge to save arguments.

    How does this look:

    GK: Given Harper

    RB: Beye Ramage

    CB: LUGANO CAHILL Taylor Faye

    LB: BRIDGE Enrique

    RM: BARNES Milner

    LM: DOWNING N’Zogbia

    DM: CARRICK Butt

    AM: ARSHAVIN Emre

    CF: GOMIS Owen Martins Carroll

    New signings in Capitals Is that an acceptable list and trust me MIchael you can slag off 7 of the 8 but leave Gary Cahill out of this the boy is a gem.

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  • Leo Kompany for the Toon

    Mar 19, 2008 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #62

    michael you do go on about alot of sh1t. when was the last time owen set someone up for a goal!!! i cant think of one stop the personal vendetta against obafemi

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 19, 2008 at 6:47 PM

    Comment #63

    My 5 signings would be:

    Kompany
    Alex Song
    Castelen
    Kahlenberg
    Chermiti

    😉

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  • ScottyT

    Mar 19, 2008 at 7:06 PM

    Comment #64

    alex song is interestin cos he dont get many games at arsenal and i think hes a canny player realistic also.. kompany is too good for us probably and the otha 3 who knows id put arshavin next to them though even though its probably unrealistic again

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 19, 2008 at 7:10 PM

    Comment #65

    Just saying who i would sign, not if they are realistic or not, i also like Bosko Jankovic who isnt getting many game at palermo.

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  • ScottyT

    Mar 19, 2008 at 7:21 PM

    Comment #66

    tom_toon btw can i just ask do you just watch football from every part of the world or just pick names out randomly cos i dont really watch other football apart from champ league spanish and english (basically whatever is on the tele) so i havnt really got a clue how good most of these players are who you mention

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 19, 2008 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #67

    I watch matches from alot of the worlds leagues every so often, but i do watch highlights of all the worlds leagues including african leages etc quite often.

    Then obviously i watch the champions league and uefa cup, premiership, serie a and a fair bit of the eredivisie quite frequently. I also like the Fifa World Club Championship which i watch every year.

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  • Hadji

    Mar 19, 2008 at 7:43 PM

    Comment #68

    Jankovic would be perfect,much much better than Smith.
    What about German Denis for Viduka
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLG05_U2YxM

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  • kelvin

    Mar 19, 2008 at 9:15 PM

    Comment #69

    luisao–benfica
    cicinho–roma
    carrick–man u
    Kalouda–brno
    Alberto Aquilani–Roma
    menez–Manaco
    Joao Moutinho-lisbon
    Pereirinha–lisbon

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  • richie

    Mar 19, 2008 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #70

    carrick or a midfelder in his mould would be my first choice, a midfielder who can b the nucleus of the team,,

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  • richie

    Mar 19, 2008 at 11:50 PM

    Comment #71

    hadji ive been campaigning for us to sign garven from ipswich so if the macedonian guy is any use lets try get both!

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  • Aussie geordie

    Mar 20, 2008 at 2:04 AM

    Comment #72

    Carrick – Were dreaming he would not come.
    Tim Chaill – Good goal scorer, dangerous header of the ball, energetic and can change a game. Best Australian football out there.
    Samba from Blackburn.

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  • geordie

    Mar 20, 2008 at 6:52 AM

    Comment #73

    It was really very strange for a team who was supposed to be chasing a top 4 finish earlier this year but now chasing for a premier league spot.
    Whether SAM or KK, would not become bad managers overnight. So what was the main cause of the problem here?

    Instability up there was the main problem. To sack a coach half way through the season and disregarded his ability in guiding the team to some good wins earlier in the season, caused the whole system to collapse, from backroom to the field.

    For KK to pick up the scrap and achieve good results will take time. He needed time and money, so hope that the team can keep themselves above the water for now and come back stronger and more organised next year.

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  • Michael

    Mar 20, 2008 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #74

    Timm Cahill is a diamond. The Modern Game demands a goal scoring midfielder. Liverpool have Gerard, Chelsea have Lampard, Ballack, and Cole, United have Ronaldo, Everton have Cahill and these are teams all fighting in the top 4/5 is this not a testament to this fact.

    People on this blog mention players they like and cannot justify why they would want to bring these players to Newcastle. Simply drawing up a list is not enough, say why and what the player is addressing. I have justified my selections and have made selections which address our plights this season, i.e. lack of creativity, lack of premiership experience, lack of goals, lack of pace and lack of flair, not only that but have made my selections to fit around the tactic-less Keegan who is another piece of dead wood that should leave during the summer.

    Keegan has won no games since his return, I do not care who you played but if you are half as good as the keegan loyalists make him out, you should have won at least one game by no and still that would not be good enough.

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  • Leo Kompany for the Toon

    Mar 20, 2008 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #75

    michael i know it may seem that i am continually disagreeing with you, but you are such a dooms day merchant, get over the fact that keegan wasnt ur choice for who joined as out manager.

    tacticless- justify that please…

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  • toon86

    Mar 20, 2008 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #76

    I notice nobody wants Taylor at the back anymore, is it just me or does he seem to be at fault for the majority of our defensive lapses? Everyone keeps banging on about Arsenal and Co coming in to steal his signature, and frankly they can have him.

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  • wags

    Mar 20, 2008 at 8:53 PM

    Comment #77

    michael you are a wanker oba was passing the ball in the second half and im not shore but a striker is ment to have an eye on one things that is scoring goals if hes not doing that then whats the point of him being there the games when he hasent played theres been f***k all plays at the opps goal because owen and smith played to deep in defs and not playing on the opps back line now with oba all of a sudden were looking at attacking footy again

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