Good To See David Edgar Get On Yesterday

One thing that was good to see in yesterday’s game was the introduction of all three of our substitutes.


David Edgar – finally got into a first team game this season

Not surprisingly Charles N’Zogbia came on for Oba Martins, but then both David Edgar and Alan Smith got into the game.

It was great to see 6′ 2″ David Edgar because we still think this boy can still make it at Newcastle, but he needs to be given the chance. When he played last season he looked solid, either as a full back or center-back. He can play anywhere across the back four, but his favored position is center-back.

We’re not sure if Beye came off injured, but those were the reports on the TV. Whether the Senegalese is available for next week’s game at White Hart Lane we don’t know, but we could do a lot worse than put David in as a direct replacement for Habib.

It was also good to see Alan Smith back, and Kevin has left him our of the last two games, in which we have picked up 4 points, but it so easily could have been all 6 points, which just a bit of luck.

Kevin talked about Alan Smith after the game:

“Alan wasn’t in the team on Monday.” “But he’s very much in the team as far as I’m concerned.”

“He’s a great kid to have around your club.” “Even though he wasn’t playing, he’s not one who will sulk. He’s a team player.”

We’re not sure that Alan can make is as a striker at the club and it could be his best position is defensive midfield. We’re not sure if Alan will be satisfied to warm the bench and if he doesn’t get many games through the end of the season, it may be that he will want to move on.

We’ll just have to wait and see on that one, but we do expect the likes of Carr, Ameobi, Rozehnal, Ramage, Cacapa and even Duff, who looks the odd man out right now, to be candidates to leave the club in the summer.

It will certainly be very interesting to see what Kevin and the staff will do this summer, we cannot wait – as long as we’re still in the Premier League of course.  😀

Comments always welcome.

133 comments so far

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 7:19 PM

    Comment #1

    i agree, duff is not good enough anymore, there are much better left wingers out there

  • dylan2k8

    Mar 23, 2008 at 7:19 PM

    Comment #2

    i agree n’zogbia should play instead of duff

  • Whitt

    Mar 23, 2008 at 7:20 PM

    Comment #3

    i’m afraid Smith’s best contributions a a striker are not as a target man, the way we have used him this season (when played upfront). i think he is actually more comfortable playing just off of a holding striker, i.e. when he played upfront w/ Viduka at Leeds. unfortunately for him, in that role, Owen and Martins would both be preferred to him.

    if the rumours linking Alan w/ a move to Sunderland are true, and he gets to play off Kenwynn Jones, i think he will have a much better season individually than he has had here.

    those are both big “IFs”…

  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 23, 2008 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #4


    Beye Faye Cuellar Enrique

    Barton Butt Barnetta

    Martins Viduka Owen

    Changed the team in a few signings.

    In the summer rather than buying in specified positions, just buy a lot of quality players and you cant go much wrong.

    I really like that midfield (never thought id say that): Butt – Good Defensive, Barton – Good box to box, quite creative, Barnetta – Good attacking, can work the wings, quite creative.

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 7:52 PM

    Comment #5


    Owen as a support striker worked well in the Fulham match and we should try and turn him into a support striker permanently as he is captain and this role would get him more involved throughout the whole 90minutes. We need to start throwing young players like Carroll, Baheng, Zamblera etc in at the deep end like West Ham, Man City and Arsenal have done this season, so that we can see what they are made of.

    Midfield doesnt have much width, but Barton and Biglia are both OKAY out wide and could drift in and out of the middle. Also, Beye and Enrique would have more attacking freedom on the flanks as the two CB’s are very well protected. Lua Lua, N’zogbia and Milner would all be good substitutes for all of the midfield.

    I think the strikeforce of Owen, Martins and Carroll is good as they could frequently swap roles in this formation and confuse the opposition defence.

    WOW! i have put wayyyy to much thought into this, i could go on and on but it would just get pretty ridiculous so im going to leave it there lol

  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 23, 2008 at 8:02 PM

    Comment #6

    Same, there are so many good players id love to come but keep it simple. Remeber KK best skill is to get the best out of average players, thats why i dont think we need an overhaul, just a few aspects of quality and creativity.

  • Hadrian

    Mar 23, 2008 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #7

    id love to make a punt for bentley in the summer , can see the big teams chasing him aswell tho .
    apart from that i really dont wanna do the whole transfer target thing , learning of keegans buys last time round as they happended was both puzzling and amazing . puzzling as i wasnt sure why he was buying some of them , and amazing watching how they would turn out 🙂
    cant wait to see who kevin has in store for us next season , there is alot of nice AM’s names floating about , and surely the big 4 cant sign them all !

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 8:05 PM

    Comment #8

    as soon as we are safe we need to start throwing lua lua on, he has looked promising when he has played.

    Who do yu reckon is going in the sumer tom

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 8:06 PM

    Comment #9

    eeeeexactly Hadrian, which is why i am happy we didnt rush into signing Arshavin

  • Kiwi Toon

    Mar 23, 2008 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #10

    I agree with Ed and don’t think Smith can make it as a striker but he still would be good cover as a utility man if he would be happy with that. With all the youth coming through at the club his should minimize the amount of signings we will need to make in the future, but in order to challenge for a European place in the future we need a few decent first team footballers who are hungry for the win and are at the peak of their careers.

  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 23, 2008 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #11

    going? errr, Carr, Rozenal, Duff, Capaca, Smith, Ramage, Ameobi.

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 8:23 PM

    Comment #12

    it really anoys me that cacapa is seen as crap by most people on here, i feel he is better than we give him credit for and we should give him a chance…but oh well, your probably right, he will go in the summer

  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 23, 2008 at 8:25 PM

    Comment #13

    I rate him, i just think he will probably be sold.

  • Bill F

    Mar 23, 2008 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #14

    If KK plays Smith as a defensive players then I fear we will finish the game with only ten players for much of the time. He is just a little to enthusiastic I’m afraid.

  • Kieran hatten

    Mar 23, 2008 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #15

    I think throwing on players like Caroll for the 2nd half is in need a massive striker with great potential also put edgar on great player deserves his run out get rid of ameobi rumor to link up with norwich with roeder ummm summer signings DONT buy pandev been watchin him NOT GOOD!!

  • Bill F

    Mar 23, 2008 at 8:43 PM

    Comment #16

    Utility man, sputitlity man, I really hate that term. It usually describes a player who just is not good enough to get a regular first team slot. I want a team or squad comprised of first teamers only, all of them fighting for a place.

    Incidently I have been really impressed with Koren of WBA, worth a punt imo.

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:09 PM

    Comment #17

    i hope cacacpa stays and proves everyone wrong


    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:23 PM

    Comment #18


    Cacapa has as much chance of being at he toon next season as Gareth Southgate has in getting his end away in the playboy mansion

    It aint gonna happen


    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:29 PM

    Comment #19

    What a difference a week makes all of us, me included wanted about 8 out and about 10 in.

    Now we have accepted Butt, Barton, Viduka and Taylors feet are back under the table

    The london media arent that far off saying we are fickle but so are everyone elses fans did anyone see on some of those SKY message boards how many Villa fans saying O’Neill should be sacked unreal !





  • richie

    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:32 PM

    Comment #20

    wats everyones thoughts on gettin bridge?would he sign for us??

    because i think hed be high on keegans list and would be an excellent first teamer

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:39 PM

    Comment #21

    Emre needs to go aswell, he is too weak for this league, he needs to go play pansy football at fenerbace or besiktas.

    Emre, Duff, Smith, Ameobi, Carr, Rozehnal, Ramage, Viduka and Milner all need to go for one reason or another.

    …Mainly because we can get/have players in their position who are superior to them, or they are passed their best.

    Emre = K. Lua Lua
    Duff = V. Sanchez
    Smith = L. Biglia
    Ameobi = A. Carroll
    Rozehnal = G. Cahill
    Carr = Adriano (A MUST SIGN!)
    Ramage = D. Edgar
    Viduka = D. Cisse
    Milner = A. Taarabt


    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #22

    Bridge would be a great signing and i cannot see him being out of Chelseas match squads for much longer without his patience running out, the same with Wright-Phillips and Sidwell those two would be great if we cant get Carrick and Arshavin.

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #23

    Craigg i agree Villa fans are some of the most fickle fans ever. They are pathetic, if they are losing at half time they boo their team off of the pitch, but as usual it is never mentioned.

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:45 PM

    Comment #24

    Not being funny, Arshavin is a decent player, but i only really wanted him in January as he wanted to come and we needed the creativity. There are a hell of a lot of creative midfielders about right now who are younger and better than Arshavin, we should sign someone better in the summer as we have a lot more time to persuade players to join and prices will be lower.


    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:47 PM

    Comment #25

    Spyro you cannot say that Lua Lua is better than Emre on the basis of a couple of sub appearances

    And there is no way that Milner should or will be sold and if Taraabt is a good as you say Spurs dont need to sell him.

    If that is adriano from Sevilla then he wont come, I havent seen Vanden Borre do anything special but I agree with most of the others.

    KK will defo Keep Viduka and he may keep Smith as 4th Striker as much as we dont agree.


    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM

    Comment #26

    I like Arshavin and while there are lots of creative midfielders around ther arent many as suitable to the premiership or as versatile as Arshavin

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:52 PM

    Comment #27

    Craigg right now Emre is miles better than kazenga…and the rest of our midfielders, he is class…But he is no use to us as he is always injured so we need to unload him


    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:54 PM

    Comment #28

    I will say that if i could pick any players my list wouldnt be anything like that above one, im just saying players i think are realistic and KK will like.


    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:58 PM

    Comment #29

    Yeah you have a point on Emre as much as i like him.

    Like i said if i wanted to pick a list of my players for the summer it would be like this:

    Santa Cruz

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 9:58 PM

    Comment #30

    Milner should be sold or kept as back up as he simply aint good enough, and we can get better players. I dont want to settle for someone who is just decent when it comes to midfielders. There are so many around that even teams like Birmingham can sign top quality midfielders if they look hard enough. e.g. De Ridder and Zarate(who is a midfielder/striker and very much a better, younger version of Arshavin)

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 10:00 PM

    Comment #31

    SHOREY!?! i think Enrique will be better than him within 12 months


    Mar 23, 2008 at 10:04 PM

    Comment #32

    Shorey is an assist machine great delivery for the strikers especially if the team contained ribery who is right footed hence the need for an accurate lefty to whip the ball in.

    KK will get Milner in the England side within 12 months and the improvement in Martins and Taylor will be huge by next season..

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 10:05 PM

    Comment #33

    I also disagree about Adriano from Sevilla, i think if we offer him a decent(yes DECENT, not absurd) amount of money he will definitely come. Maybe if Ramos was still there than it would be harder to persuade him, but after Ramos left even Kanoute said that he wouldnt mind returning to the premiership only a few months after stating his desire to remain in Spain.

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 10:06 PM

    Comment #34

    Craigg Milner will never be ahead of SWP, Lennon, Walcott, or Bentley

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 10:08 PM

    Comment #35

    I think They would even play Young on the right before playing Milner. If Pennant got more games at Liverpool even he would be ahead of Milner


    Mar 23, 2008 at 10:08 PM

    Comment #36

    To be honest this speculating is pointless because we are probably miles off KK targets anyway

    I dont care who he goes for as i have total faith in him in the transfer market

    Although i would be happy if there is at least an effort for Carrick

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 10:12 PM

    Comment #37

    which is another point, why dont we sign pennant, great delivery, pace, trickery and a lot of stamina


    Mar 23, 2008 at 10:13 PM

    Comment #38

    Milner is better than Pennant & Walcott has more ability than Lennon and deserves a chance more than SWP who never plays.

    All he needs to do is have more consistancy with his crossing, He is good with either foot and can play on either wing and i would like to see him play in this 433 on the right of centre.

    Cappello was even considering him before his injury.

  • Spyro

    Mar 23, 2008 at 10:13 PM

    Comment #39

    true about probably being way off


    Mar 23, 2008 at 10:15 PM

    Comment #40

    We have a very different view on players Spyro as i hardly think that Pennants crossing is any more consistant than Milners who has as much pace, trickery, but much more versatility and a lot more stamina and a left foot that pennant cannot use.


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