Ashton and Baines – Are They Good Enough?


The Sun reports today that Newcastle are after both Dean Ashton of West Ham United and Leighton Baines of Everton.

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Leighton Baines – struggled at Everton this season

Leighton Baines was presumably a target for us last summer, along with Wayne Bridge and Nicky Shorey for the left back spot, but we eventually paid £6.2M for Jose Enrique who is turning out to be a good player at the club, now that Kevin has given him a long run in the side.

But Leighton, who is 5’7″ tall, has struggled at Everton and is unable to get a regular starting spot, so we wonder if the boy is good enough for Newcastle. He’s appeared just 19 times for the Toffees this season after playing for Wigan Athletic 145 times and scoring 4 goals.

But he’s the right age at just 23 years old, and played for the England Under-21 side 16 times and scored one goal.

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Dean Ashton – looks the part but is injury prone

We think striker Dean Ashton, who is 24, could be a success at Newcastle because he’s a natural goalscorer, very much in the vein of an Alan Shearer, but not as good or prolific.

But we think Keegan could mold Ashton into a very good goalscorer at the club, by taking his natural goalscoring ability and playing to his strengths. But Dean also seems to be injury prone, and that’s the exact same problem we have with Mark Viduka, so there’s a doubt about Dean being a good buy, as far as we are concerned.

We think Baines would be available, but it may be a lot more difficult to prise Ashton away from West Ham United.

What do you think about these two players – are they good enough?

Comments welcome.



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111 comments so far

  • Spyro

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #1

    Baines is, not sure about lazy boy Ashton.

    Sky Sports are reporting we are set to make a 14million bid for Gomis by the way

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  • MattyDread

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #2

    I think Ashton would be a good signing and is exactly the king of centre forward we need to compliment our current crop of strikers.

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  • Eric

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #3

    I wish people would confine the Sun newspaper to the toilet wall. Why oh why do we want or need Ashton or Baines? I thought KK was supposed to be seeking real quality. If Baines is not good enough for Everton why is he considered an option for NUFC? Ashton, compared to Owen, Martins and Carroll is not even at the races. Just another load of porridge and chips from the media folks.

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  • Taiwantoon

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #4

    They could improve our squad, but just not that sexy as new signings.

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  • Fernando

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #5

    No more injury prone players. waste of space. GOMIS!!!!! We need(not just want) a double digit person to take the slack of owen and martins if they’re not on fire.

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  • canmag

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #6

    ashton always injured ,well is that the same as
    owen not much said about that now .

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  • scottish mag

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #7

    bafe gomis would be quality, not ashton havent seen much of baines this season so dont know

    lincoln from galatasaray ia available for 5m euros he would be gd

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  • Geordie Gerrard7

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #8

    gomis is class

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  • HeronMag

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #9

    Shearer had some terrible injuries but no on ever said he was prone to injury. I like Ashton and I’d be delighted if we signed him.

    But I’m also a big fan of Bafe Gomis. He really looks the part and is a better all round player than Ashton.

    Buy them both!

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  • HonoraryGeordie

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #10

    I have always said, and will always say – “Ashton is the best signing we could possibly make!”. I think the guy is genius, and playing alongside people like Owen and Martins, he would shine and show just how good he is! If we have the slightest chance of getting him then we should go all out and offer him the world!
    If we do get him, you people saying he isn’t good or sexy-football enough will be made to look rather stupid! He is brilliant!

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  • Geordie Gerrard7

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #11

    my mate recons that gomis is alot better than adebayor was, and hell of alot better at a younger age then drogba

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  • Hamas (51times)

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #12

    We already have a young LB in Enrique, need a slightly older and more experienced LB for him to learn from imo. Not Riise though as I think he’s past it, plus he doesn’t really want to leave liverpool.

    Also, Gomis > Ashton

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  • SHEARER

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #13

    i DONT RECKON THEY WOULD TAKE A STEP DOWN AND JOIN US AT THIS STAGE OF THERE CAREERS. i THINK WE SHOULD REALISTICLY BE LOOKING AT PLAYES IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP AND AT THOSE WHOSE TEAMS WILL BE RELEGATED.

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  • ScottyT

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #14

    gomis yes, ashton maybe.. not both dont need many more strikers man

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  • Ross G

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #15

    Baines no he is an average LB we should be aiming higher Shorey & Bridge are better. Ashton is a good CF to have but again I think we are missing out on a top top player in that role for a cheaper price – Eidur Gudjohnsen. Great target man but also very creative scores and has that match winning ability.

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  • Geordie Gerrard7

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #16

    i think gomis and arshavin will be our two first signings, i think we will then test the water with a bid for van der vaart

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  • toonhitman

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #17

    why has this story been leaked about gomis it should be kept in house till we sign him i bet every other club comes in for him now and we loose out,ashton could be a good signing for us

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  • Nick Dryden

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #18

    No and no

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  • ronaldeano

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #19

    Hope youre right Geordie Gerrard7

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  • Geordie Gerrard7

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #20

    hell prob end up at spurs

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  • Geordie Gerrard7

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #21

    i see lucho wants out of porto

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  • scottish mag

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #22

    lucho wants to go to athletico madrid

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  • Geordie Gerrard7

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #23

    yeah seen that on goal.com, modric has been finalised. i really didnt want to see that news

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  • Eric

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #24

    It seems Alan Oliver is running the Dunne story.
    Is he any better than what we have got already?
    It seems that we are getting further down KK’s list – and we do not actually know who is on it. Also the media seem to know more about it than Mort, Ashley and Kevin and co. What’s new.

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  • Gooderz

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #25

    There is a quote from Lucho on Setanta saying that he wants to prove himself in other leagues so we have a chance. He’s only admitted an interest in Athletico because they have been heavily linked to him, but that move may depend on Maxi Rodriguez moving. At least that’s Lucho’s view.

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  • Ray Stokes

    Apr 29, 2008 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #26

    Wiese
    Beye
    Cuellar
    Mertsacker
    Lahm
    Boussoufa
    Diego
    Barton
    Arshavin
    Owen
    Huntelaar

    Subs
    Gomis
    Enrique
    Martins
    Given
    Barnes

    Anyone?

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  • howway geordies

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #27

    Baines is a bit small. Ashton is a good striker – I would be pleased if we signed him.

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  • Hamas (51times)

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #28

    Wiese – Why would we get another keeper?
    Beye
    Cuellar – Would be alright I think.
    Mertsacker – Would quite like him.
    Lahm – LOL
    Boussoufa – too lightweight, wouldn’t last
    Diego – Very doubtful that he’d come.
    Barton
    Arshavin
    Owen
    Huntelaar – Again, wouldn’t come.

    Subs
    Gomis – Yes please.
    Enrique
    Martins
    Given
    Barnes – Injury prone knee, waste of money.

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  • ToonDaft

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #29

    ashton is far too injury prone – why bother with another potential sick-note for our club?

    also, Baines aint good enough for Everton so why should we settle – we are surely trying to catch them next season, not sign their flops. Shorey and Bridge are surely available and are both better – would be pleased with Gomis though, I have heard from several people in France that he really is the business, even for 14 million

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  • Faustino

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #30

    Here we go again… can we try and keep these approaches out of the press until we’ve signed the player for gods sake… you’ll notice that not many clubs are singualry linked with a player as much as we are and with as much details of bid amounts etc. ?

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  • Jim

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #31

    Bridge or Riise over Baines
    Ashton is a good prospect but a gamble. If we can rely on Viduka and Carrol, I would take the risk. Would Gomis fit in any better?

    SONE ALUKO – Sign him up!

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  • autibo

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #32

    Ashton has played more games than Viduka this season and maybe he’s now starting to overcome his injury problems. I dont recall people saying Shearer was “too injury prone” so maybe we should give him a chance at a higher level. Seems to have the physique to play alongside Oba for many years. Personally I’d rather see Huntelaar though, if we could persuade him to come. Gomis my 3rd choice after these two.

    Midfield I’d like to see any two from V.D.Vaart, Arshavin, Michael Johnson, Mbia, Toulalan or Lucho.

    Sven looks like he’s away, anybody fancy taking a big-money shot for Richards, Dunne and Johnson?? Get it done on the hush-hush!! 🙂

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  • Hamas (51times)

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #33

    Gomis is third choice? Just because Ashton is English don’t let that blind you – he is an average player in an average team.

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  • ToonDaft

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #34

    you’re exactly right Faustino! i would much prefer to just come online and discover we have signed a cracker – let’s hope that since we havent been linked, we are on the cusp of announcing Diego or/and (lol) VDV

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  • Geordie Gerrard7

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #35

    wtf has michael johnson done?

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  • ToonRich

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #36

    From what I have seen of Gomis, he’s a strong powerful forward, with two good feet 🙂 He’s perhaps similar to Oba in that he can run with the ball at pace and scored a variety of goals…I would be happy if we signed him 🙂 especially if he is better than Drogba & Adebayor!

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  • valle

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #37

    SHEARER… Who do you think your fooling, you not a toon fan.

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  • Leo

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #38

    yes and no. but if we could ht gomis it would be no and no

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  • Spyro

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #39

    We need adebayor and Gallas!!
    They are the best, so lets sign the best, then bish bash bosh…………We will challenge the mighty gunners!

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  • valle

    Apr 29, 2008 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #40

    I would go for

    Harper
    Beye
    Taylor
    Metzelder
    Bridge
    Lennon
    Butt
    Diego, VDV or Moutinho (in that order if possible)
    McGyver
    Owen
    Gomis

    Subs
    Martins
    Dukes
    Enrique
    Geremi
    Faye

    Possible 1-2 to many first team changes for 1 season, but a good team with creativity and wings as fast as lightning with solid backs to cover for them.

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