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Keegan Having Difficulties With Dunne Signing?

10:04 am, Sunday, May 18th, 2008 by Ed Harrison · 47 Comments

News today, in the Sunday Mirror, that Newcastle manager Kevin Keegan is trying to persuade club owner and billionaire Mike Ashley, to bring the Manchester City captain, Richard Dunne, to the club.

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Richard Dunne – Man City captain available

If that is true it will be bad news for the club, because Kevin’s responsibilities are on the playing side, and if he is to get Newcastle up to 5th place next season, the club has to back him with the players he wants to bring in.

You cannot have it both ways, you cannot dictate who Kevin should buy, and then make him responsible for where we finish in the league next season.

However, we’re not at all sure Ashley wants to dictate to Kevin which players he should bring to the club, or even what age they should be, young or old.

That would be lunacy.

Keegan has already presented a list of targets to Executive Director Dennis Wise last week, with Dunne, 28, apparently at the top of the list.

But Ashley wants to sign younger players with future resale value. We think that’s true, but that doesn’t mean he will not also want to buy established stars, who can deliver results immediately for the team.

Dunne is valued at around £6M, but we think his availability may actually be short-lived.

There is news today that Manchester City’s Thailand owner Thaksin Shinawatra may give a reprieve to his manager Sven Eriksson, and if that happens you can bet Sven will try to keep Richard at Eastlands.

We think Sven would be better off leaving Man City and go to a club where the upper echelons are ready to let him manage the club his way, and not interfere with everything going on, as Shinawatra seems to be doing.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours





47 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Nick Dryden // May 18, 2008 at 10:11 AM

    Dunne is not good enough for what we need

  • 2 Zero Cool // May 18, 2008 at 10:14 AM

    but WAY better than what we have.

  • 3 Tom4NUFC // May 18, 2008 at 10:20 AM

    Ok then Nick, If Dunne isnt good enough who is….
    I mean after all he is only a proven premiership player, who is sturdy and solid, I think people have to realise, we are going to have to go for these types of players so we can get to Europe, then when in Europe we can push and start spending the millions on BIG players.

  • 4 scottish mag // May 18, 2008 at 10:22 AM

    that is pandev really unhappy at lazio

    and lazio could cash io on him before he buys out his contract

    how about £7m plus rozenhal

    http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=700517

  • 5 Mehzeb // May 18, 2008 at 10:22 AM

    This is ridiculous.

    Look at the players other teams are linked with:

    Arsenal: Jean Makoun, Mohm Dabou, Samir Nasri

    Tottenham: Samuel Eto’o, Richard Dunne, Dean Ashton, Adriano Correira

    Everton: Joaquin

    And now…

    Newcastle: Arda Turan, and the news that Riise will ditch us for Schalke

    Brilliant.

  • 6 Bradley // May 18, 2008 at 10:33 AM

    Mehzeb, you obviously haven’t got eyes or ears.

    Here’s a list of players we’ve been linked with

    Elano
    Cuellar
    Dunne
    Gudjohnsen
    Crouch
    Gomis
    Ashton
    Joaquin
    Deco
    Arshavin
    Veloso

    I could honestly go on and on and on…

  • 7 nodrog // May 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM

    Arda Turan should be top of Kev’s list. Check him out on You tube along with Bafetimbi Gomis who would make a good replacement for Viduka.

  • 8 Leo // May 18, 2008 at 10:41 AM

    not bothered to be truthful i would rather we got someone younger who is going to be hear for longer

    hear come all the irish people saying- oh but he is better than we already have and he got 4 players of the season at city and player of the year at ireland(quite frankly that doesnt make me care any more of less because when voting people dont always vote on merit but on preference such as people voting for given because of PAST performances….)

    rant over

  • 9 craig chisholm // May 18, 2008 at 10:42 AM

    if keegan can not persuade the board to go after the targets he wants then it really means in effect that keegan is not in charge of anything right down to the team on the pitch. are we to believe that ashley is going to buy who denis wise says and not who keegan says and then just dump that player into keegans squad and say, here you go, these are who we have picked (cos they were all dead cheap), now you go on and get us sixth spot next season. is this really what is happening at newcastle now?? i do not understand the way we are conducting our buisiness but i am inclinded to put some money down on kk walking out in the close season due to total lack of backing from ashley and mortisha. i aint renewing my season ticket until i have a better picutre of what our structure is and exactly IF our owener is backing king kev at all. just seems kinda strange to bring back such an influential figure as keegan, then treat him like shit, not let him buy a single player and then be arsed off when keegan says we have no chance of breaking top four. i think that there are too many meadling twats in our structure now and it is starting to stink. we very rarley missed out on a target before, and it was hardly ever down to us offering the best money etc – with the exception of owen and shearer. we made our targets and had a good sucess rate. now it seems that we are not capable of signing anyone. even fat sam said the majourity of what he signed was not his first choice and not ideal. what is going on behind the scenes?? If i was a footy player i would want to meet keegan, the other players, get shown around by him at st james and at the training ground. its a personal touch and it seems missing these days. i think that the mort is trying to be a bit too buisiness like and its just not working. keegan has admitted that he has no idea what goes on and all he has done ever is given them a list…. a list that they seem to have chuked in the bin as it does not match up with wises. christ, i hope they arnt planning on putting wise into the hot seat. there will be hell on.

  • 10 Taiwantoon // May 18, 2008 at 10:49 AM

    Tired of the speculations really. Just hope the board and the owner is sensible enough to let KK to do his job as it should be.

    Buying talented young players is a good thing to do, but a club as big as NUFC can not afford to give up next season before it has started.

  • 11 Exiled Geordie // May 18, 2008 at 10:58 AM

    Dunne has done well this season and i think we have to accept although you cant call him world class he is the type of player we will have to go for given our league postion and the fact we wont have european football next season.Its a building process and will take time if we can bring in a few players next season and sneak into europe then we can look a the next level of players.

  • 12 CRAIGG // May 18, 2008 at 11:02 AM

    Spurs are according to the papers signing E’too, Adriano, Arshavin, Bridge, Dunne and Ashton for a combined £68m to go with the £16m modric and previously bought in January £7m Woodgate, £9m Hutton and £3m Gilberto.

    And best of all their trying (apparently) to sign Owen.

    They have a manager that looks and probably smells like a toad and his success buying can only go the David O’Leary Leeds Utd Way and we all know which way that is.

    Ramos sacked from 8 out of 11 clubs, soon to be 9 out of 12 as they are destined for failiure.

    Theres only one Kevin Keegan…

  • 13 Toon1978 // May 18, 2008 at 11:11 AM

    Is Spurs and M.Ashley taking the p.ss out of us geordies…..i can see KK walking if he cant go for the players he sees fit. This is getting worse and worse. 5TH hahahah dont be silly the way CASHLEY is going we will be lucky to stop in the PL. A nd by the way i dont appreciate the fact he is trying to bring in quality youngsters only to sell them on in the future. That to me is an insult to the die hard fans of NUFC this bloke Ashley is really starting to grate on me why wont he release the funds for KK to get us into a decent position. Up to now Ashley is nowt but a fat ugly greedy self ildungent w…er. Looks to me he is only interested in profiting from us and has no interest in getting us into europe. Seems he doesnt even want to let 6 million go for DUNNE beggers belief.

  • 14 Bill F // May 18, 2008 at 11:13 AM

    Either he is the manager or a hyped up coach and should be told where he stands even if we end up getting rubbish players like Dunne. Or was that was that meeting all about. In which case he should either bite the bullet and stay or tell Ashley and co. to stick the job.

  • 15 spen27 // May 18, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    any player that clubs get linked with it becomes a matter of time before spurs do also.they surely cant keep buyin players theyv got a bigger squad then liverpool. i just hope they become the new leeds.

    players we need

    turan

    campbel

    diarra

    diego

    giles baines

    gomis

    shorey

    players to sell

    smith

    amiobi

    duff (sorry to say you just no zog will be world class if we were to sell him)

    butt- did well last season but we need the extra bit that barton and emre have

  • 16 ToonKing // May 18, 2008 at 11:17 AM

    lol i’m not even reading these articles anymore Ed, they are all bollox.

    Not one transfer news that has any kind of truth to it has yet popped up. it’s all speculation. pffff i;m tired of it all ready. I’ll comment when i see quotes from the club or news from some reliable source and that excludes Sky, Mail etc and crappy sites like , goal.com, tribalfootball, caughtoffside.com and so on.

  • 17 CRAIGG // May 18, 2008 at 11:20 AM

    Dunne is far from Rubbish i rate him higher than any of our CBs

  • 18 ELFER // May 18, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    DUNNE should absolutely be number 1 signing! We need somone like him! Maybe he can buy out his contract (1mio) – we can offer him handmoney to do so?

    After that go for cheap Nicky Shorey at LB.

  • 19 ToonKing // May 18, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    Dunne is decent, imo Faye is better then him…………..but Taylor is not…. get him in.

  • 20 spen27 // May 18, 2008 at 11:28 AM

    evry 1 here who thinks dunne is half decent has a very short memorey a few season ago he was the prems titarse bramble a did a better job missing tackles and keeping players onside i’d rather bring back roz and save some cash for the midfield flair we’v lost.taylor and faye are better thn dunne full stop

  • 21 CRAIGG // May 18, 2008 at 11:30 AM

    No their not, He has been one of the best in the league for ages and would be the best signing we could make.

  • 22 Bill F // May 18, 2008 at 11:31 AM

    Seems to me that Dunne is a marmite player you either love him or hate him, Iv’e made it obvious where I stand although I do love marmite.

  • 23 paulthepom // May 18, 2008 at 11:38 AM

    micah richards made dunne look good.look at man city results after richards was injured.woeful.dunne lasted 15 mins of the last game.sent off.he has no pace and richards does.who would compliment him in our centre halves?imo he is another taylor and faye.

  • 24 spen27 // May 18, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    haha 1 of the best in the league u surely dont mean that

    he’s worst then all the top 4 CB

    worst then melberg,lescott,king,taylor,faye,distan,cambel etc

    the bottom line is if we buy dunne we buy no better then we have i really cant beleev people would be happy with more average rated players HE IS NO BETTER THEN WOT WE HAVE

  • 25 CRAIGG // May 18, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    Thats right Bill F, Its the same with Shorey the other day a lot said Yes and a lot said No

    I just think that with a quality CB and LB in to stiffen the defence we could take more points away from home.

    I believe we will always score with Owen, Martins, Viduka, N’Zogbia, Milner, Barton, Emre, Duff and Smith (Joke) but despite improvements i cannot see us keeping enough clean sheets away from home.

    So for me Dunne and Shorey would be great signings, But everyone is entitled to their opinion.

  • 26 CRAIGG // May 18, 2008 at 11:42 AM

    That is the opinion of a number of managers, Players and fans including me.

  • 27 Nick Dryden // May 18, 2008 at 11:49 AM

    As Spen 27 says people seem to forget how ropey Dunne was. He was / is still very Bamblesque and if he has improved so much, why does Torres, Ronaldo etc run past him like he’s not there. Edgar has done a better job on Ronaldo than Dunne. I would rather promote Edgar than spend 6M on a journeyman like Dunne on inflated wages. If we have to buy someone, then it should be someone who is a bit classy and on the way up, like Amorebieta, Kompany, Barzargli etc. Surely our new scouting system could find us a nugget.

  • 28 Ian // May 18, 2008 at 11:58 AM

    It is just speculation, everyone is guessing.

    Youngsters are a very big gamble, it looks like we are keeping Carroll, well that is one big gamble in my book, we should put Lua Lua in the first team, but that is also a gamble, Edgar in and that is also alow risk gamble, to buy more youngsters for the first would be a step too far, we need a very solid goalscoring midfielder, an old established striker who will bring goals and has some pace and height for the Viduka type position if we are playing three strikers and a big strong established centre back minimum.

    Many youngsters can be flash in the plan performers and unpredictable.

    I dont see where the youngster idea fits in, unless they are brought through the reserves with the likes of Fabio, Baheng and co.

  • 29 CRAIGG // May 18, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    Yes i suppose, We just gave away a measly 17 goals against Man Utd and Liverpool this season and i think youll find that man Utd lost home and away to city and liverpool drew and won them only due to city having a rearranged back 4 with Ball at CB and Sun Jihai at LB .

    On Edgar yes he played Ronaldo well at LB but at CB against Reading and West Ham he was very dodgy.

    Dunne has been Citys player of the year 4 years running now, Why if Richards made him look so good didnt he win it ?

    This all in a team including Richards, Petrov, Elano, Johnson, Ireland, Hart and Hamman

  • 30 Clive Rutter // May 18, 2008 at 12:05 PM

    Like The Daily Mail the Mirror is nothing more than a sh*t-stirring rag. I cannot remember a season when the press has laid into a club so much. The new regime, unlike fat fred, keep their cards close to their chests, I suspect the reporter who wrote this article knows no more about the goings on at SJP than I do. I would ask all Newcastle supporters to stop buying the national papers, get your info online for free. And don’t take their bait and leave comments on their websites eg Martin Samuels in the Times writing in his blog that “Newcastle is not a special club”, which is the journalistic equivalent of Adrian Durham on talksh*t radio winding up morons to generate plenty of calls to a premium rate phone line. Basically the all lie and print any old rubbish.

  • 31 spen27 // May 18, 2008 at 12:07 PM

    on paper our squad is well up ther 5th 6 th best easy but we miss the edge and fillin the viods with more average players we can hope for no better then 7th 8th in the prem and that would be at a push.pleeeease buy some quality we need it the foundations are ther for us to return to a big 4 team.just need that lil bit more like we have in the last few seasons

  • 32 Tom Cairns // May 18, 2008 at 12:39 PM

    i cant believe how seriously ssome are taking this article! lol it is all guess work and suddenly we’re back to the stupid conclusion that ashley is only in it for the quick profit.why cant most of the poeple on here stops sensationalizing. there’s proof that ashley has pumped lots of money into the club over the yr he’s had it and it is only the beginning of the summer so hold your horses over how much we’re going to invest. KK has handed ashley a list, this we know, beyond that we’ve no reason to think otherwise than ashley will be pursuing these names.
    i for one think that dunne would be a very good buy and him and faye at the back would be very strong partnership for yrs to come. a good creative midfielder/defensive mid, a left back, a cf and some young talent and we’ll be a much stronger team.
    with teh players we already have we should be up in the top 8, with some strong, sure additions we can consolidate that and hopefully challenge for 5th.

    (please stop believing these stupid stories)

  • 33 Sav // May 18, 2008 at 12:51 PM

    Hang on.
    Half say Ashley’s tight for not signing Dunne.
    The other half say Dunne’s crap anyway.
    Make yer bloody minds up – its worse than shoppin’ wi’ the missus.
    If 80% of turnover really goes on player wages, then we’re going to have to take a dose of reality at NUFC. If our new hard-up regime means its Spurs supporters’ turn to be led by the nose when any agent has a player to flog, good luck to them – we’ve had that long enough and its a mugs’ game.
    In my opinion, Dunne is a very good CB and a decent lad. But if its a choice between him and Johnny Evans who is just 21, almost as good, plays fullback as well and would cost the same money but less wages, I’d have more trouble choosing. Are we willing to wait a year or two until these youngsters improve and mature? On the balance of this thread, it doesn’t seem likely.

  • 34 Eric // May 18, 2008 at 12:54 PM

    I hate to admit but the likes of Dunne and Shorey are going to be the likes of players we will get. We have a bad press – deliberately created by the arse-wipers of the national London based media. Riise apparently wants to go to Germany. That is it – he is a glory hunter. We will not get Sol Campbell now even though his days at Pompey are nearly over. They all want to play for “big” teams like Villa, Spurs, Wigan, Portsmouth and Blackburn! Let’s hope Turan signs for us. When the smoggies and mackems are touted by London reporters as better options than us we know it is a deliberate piece of shite stirring. Only way to sort them out – get 4th or 5th next season and bring the FA cup back to St James.

  • 35 Mehzeb // May 18, 2008 at 12:56 PM

    Bradley, I meant today. :~S

  • 36 spen27 // May 18, 2008 at 1:04 PM

    i really dont think ashley will be tight and its not wishful thinking.after the season we just had and surrounding teams intending to spend ashley will be realistic and do so and as i said before we are closer then most teams( on paper) then returning to big 4 status.just a few additions and kick out the dead wood. turan would kickstart the rivival. long live the king……….

  • 37 Exiled Geordie // May 18, 2008 at 1:07 PM

    Spen as much as i hate to say it top quality players arent going to come to us mate as we dont have alot to offer them at the moment.I would lovre to see cuellar from Rangers come personally but again we have the problem of not been in euorpe.To much rubbish is written about who we are meant to be chasing but nobody really knows accept those in charge.But one thing i know is we arent going to compete for the really top players at the moment but hopefully we can improve in the sqaud,get rid of the likes of smith and roz and fight for a top 6 then look again.

  • 38 Bradley // May 18, 2008 at 1:11 PM

    Oh today… i take that back then.

    I think we just need to sit tight and wait though.

  • 39 Gareth // May 18, 2008 at 2:16 PM

    Hey, let’s give the Newcastle top brass the benefit of the doubt for the moment – the London based media is constantly trying to get the fans to turn on those in charge at the club, and reading some responses on here they seem to be succeeding – don’t let them win! We don’t really know what’s going on, the summer has barely begun and the transfer window hasn’t even re-opened yet! Let’s just see what actually happens and support the club at all levels for the moment.

  • 40 macca // May 18, 2008 at 7:25 PM

    Dunne is very underrated. Whenever he plays, be it club or country he leads from the back, by example, he is absolutely fabulous, would be a fantastic buy, he’s 100 times better then anything we have now, you wont notice how good he is until he’s actually is in there in the thick of things, he’s always probably about the only defender that Given would trust fully, they play fabulous together whenever both has missed a game, like the Cyprus one, they get torn to shreds. Fantastic leader, fantastic player. Would be a sin to let him go by just because he’s not that young or as highly rated by the media. Facts speak for themselves and there’s a reason he’s won player of the year for Man City a couple of years running now and he’s the current Irish player of the year as well. He’d improve our defence significantly and like I said, 100 times better then anything we have.

  • 41 chuck // May 18, 2008 at 8:26 PM

    Not Vidic or Terry, but a good , solid, dependable central defender, who can hold the fort until the Youngbloods mature through the youth system.
    Yeah , have to admit he looks akward at times, but he wasnt voted team player of the year at Easlands three years running, because he could`nt play.
    Will be sold at a reasonable price, Ithink he would be a good buy .
    And to LEO, what was that about the Irish people, you have some prejudices or what?
    My understanding is we are here to discuss football and hey after watching that clip of the young Turkish kid, go get him Kev or Dennis or whoever does the deals, kids great!

  • 42 martins // May 18, 2008 at 8:51 PM

    he has 1 half decent season and ppl jump on the band wagon i think dunne is very overated

  • 43 Leo // May 18, 2008 at 8:55 PM

    did i not make my point clear?

  • 44 reillers // May 18, 2008 at 11:35 PM

    Martins..Half a decent season he’s been player of the year for the past 4 seasons with Man City.

  • 45 Archie Brand // May 19, 2008 at 5:05 AM

    Always interesting to read the comments on articles like this.

    What we often forget is that we don’t have to have he best defenders on the planet to get us into the top 6. We don’t need someone who is going to stop Ronaldo and Drogba every time.

    We need solid experienced defenders who can neutralise strikers from the other 14 or 15 clubs while just making life difficult for those in the top 4.

    Dunne is solid and can certainly make a difference.

    We dont need the best – we just need better than we already have.

    And that can’t be too difficult to achieve.

    Unfortunately our back four will always be remebered as the Chuckle Brothers.

    With Beye , Taylor and Enrique with Faye infront of them we just need one more alongside Taylor and we might have the makings of a defence.

  • 46 Football Betting King // May 19, 2008 at 2:08 PM

    Don’t really agree with the original premise. I think there shouldn’t be blanket support of the manager from the board when it comes to transfers. Discussions should be taking place.

    Alarm bells are ringing though by the suggestion that Ashely isn’t keen on splashing a huge whopping £5m on Richard Dunne.

    Dunne is proven quality, the captain of his Pl team, and would be a great addition to an area of our squad where we really need it.

    I honestly can’t see why our owner wouldn’t be delighted to get someone of his quality for as little as £5m; but bthen again there are enough people on here who would queation the signing

    Sod it – lets just go and blow our entire budget on a foreign centre forward with a long name!

  • 47 Lawman // May 20, 2008 at 2:24 PM

    I remember not long after MA bought NUFC, he and mort said that there wasnt as much transfer funds available as originally thought (for the summer transfer window of fatsam). Their reasoning was that the club’s debt was more than they had expected and they wanted to give priority to clearing the debt. All credit to them but i said then that surely being experienced businessmen, they should know ALL the financial ins and outs of a business before buying it so how could the size of the debt be “unexpected”. Fans still gave him the benefit of doubt cos he was new and DID wipe out the debt but it does now seem that MA is not all that willing to splash out and used the debt issue as an excuse.

    I’m not a fan of Dunne and don’t think he’s right for NUFC but I think Craig Chrisholm’s right. MA and Mort needs to back KK no matter who KK wants (even if it is Dunne).




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