Richard Dunne Too Old For Newcastle?


News today that Newcastle may think Richard Dunne is too old at 28 to join Newcastle.

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Richard Dunne – too old for Newcastle?

While we think that is very surprising, we do understand a little of what the club is thinking.

They want younger players, who would presumably come at a better price and would be a better investment for the club longer term.

But that’s not always easy to do, and to be successful you have to have the scouting network in place and scouts at the club who know a good young player when they see one.

But again, that’s not easy, and we don’t know yet just how good Dennis Wise, Tony Jimenez and Jeff Vetere are in this new role.

Kevin has been asked to take the club forward big time next season, and to do that you must have some experience in the side, and Dunne provides that.

You cannot expect a bunch of youngsters to have the experience necessary to take the club up to 5th place – well not immediately, that’s for sure.

So the club will have to gauge the number of youngsters they bring in against the experienced finished professionals we need to take the club to 5th place.

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Carlos Ceuellar – played great for Rangers last season

However, if we are not now interested in Richard Dunne, it would seem the spotlight may now be going on Ranger’s Ceullar, who we know Kevin rates very highly as one of the best center-backs in Britain.

Spaniard Ceullar has already said he is happy to stay at Rangers, but we all know that the Premier league is the top league in the world, and if the player wants to improve, he would presumably be looking to move to a better league with improved wages.

Carlos is 26, stands 6’3″ tall and played 35 times for Rangers last season scoring 4 goals.

Come to think of it, 26 isn’t too much younger than 28, is it?

Comments welcome.



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38 comments so far

  • CRAIGG

    May 20, 2008 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #1

    This is stupid!

    No Kev you cant sign who you want, but look Dennis the cross eyed menace has found a bunch of young players from abroad who will never play in the first team and will be released before they are 21 instead.

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  • Geordie Gerrard7

    May 20, 2008 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #2

    2 YEARS in football is like a decade of real life. i think we should get cuellar and forget about the dunneymonster

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  • Eric

    May 20, 2008 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #3

    I can understand the reasoning. Being 28 today is not too old. Considering KK’s time scale for top rate success Dunne would be in his early 30’s. Cueller just on 30. For an interim solution I would still try and grab Sol Campbell. At least with KK and Ashley we have common sense with Fat Sam all we had was pseudo-scientific crap found on the back of matchboxes. Any more news about Huff and Puff Duff selling his house?

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  • Geordie Gerrard7

    May 20, 2008 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #4

    huff and puff duff. i like it lol

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  • CRAIGG

    May 20, 2008 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #5

    Yes, I too like Cuellar but its the constant undermining of the King that is annoying me, Its just like Fat Fred and Bobby again.

    No way is this why Kev came back, Ashley must of made loads of promises about mega finance and how Kev would have total control on who he buys, A month of so later Wise minces in and starts playing god.

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  • James

    May 20, 2008 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #6

    Doesn’t matter if he’s too old or not, it should be KK’s decision to make, not Wise’s.

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  • toonoholic

    May 20, 2008 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #7

    dunne is valued at 6 mn , piquet is valued at 6 mn too . given a choice who wld u sign ?

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  • CRAIGG

    May 20, 2008 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #8

    Would Pique choose us over Barcelona his home city club and Guaranteed Trophies and Champions League football virtually every season.

    Dunne however would come here is a good premiership defender and is a KK favourite, SWP should get more ambition as well and get his arse reunited with Kev as well.

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  • toonoholic

    May 20, 2008 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #9

    SWP is a tit .

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  • Bosck

    May 20, 2008 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #10

    craigg how do you know theres any undermining going on. none of us know whats going on behind the scenes, maybe keegan was never interested in dunne in the 1st place, or maybe this rumour that newcastle think he is too old is rubbish as well. until we have anything concrete i will not believe anything the press says, there are too many fans ready to believe tabloid rubbish and then start having a go at mike ashley with nothing to back their claims up.

    if come the start of next season we have not signed some good players to strengthen the squad, then we can maybe suggest ashley is not willing to invest, but we should not start saying this at the beginning of the transfer window just cos we have not instantly signed 4 world class players!!!!!

    if keegan felt he was being undermined/didnt have the control he expects he would leave simple as, he has done so once so there is no reason he would not do so again, so he is obviously happy with the situation as it is.

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  • Bill F

    May 20, 2008 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #11

    Too old, not to sure about that, too slow definately, no tactical nous, no bottle, best news I’ve heard this year. But having said that the final decision should be KKs even we we do sign the occasional donkey. I was talking to a spurs supporter and without any prompting said exactly the same as me, they don’t want him either

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  • SydneyToon

    May 20, 2008 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #12

    The mail reckons we are after Cuellar….and ready to get rid of Duff. I’d be very happy if we can recover 5mil for Duff – as long as we have a replacement already in.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1020643/Magpies-ready-offer-Rangers-7m-Tottenham-target-Cuellar.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1020643/Magpies-ready-offer-Rangers-7m-Tottenham-target-Cuellar.html

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  • Davies

    May 20, 2008 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #13

    I agree with Bosck. Ashley’s already invested over £100m in hte club’s debts. The penny pincing comments coming from the papers are not to be trusted.

    I’ll wait until the window closes before I compain about Wise/ Ashley.

    Seems a decent sort of a bloke if you ask me.

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  • Davies

    May 20, 2008 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #14

    By the way Ed, that picture of MA with beefy on the side of the page makes me feel a little bit sick.

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  • CRAIGG

    May 20, 2008 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #15

    Yeah you maybe right.

    But dont you think that KKs persuasive powers may have worked on Modric instead of sending Wise to speak to him, Someone who to me, has never Seemed a very enthusiastic or particularily likeable person.

    IMO they are trying to make his role more important than it should be, he was meant to be a gloryfied scout therefore why is he negotiating high profile transfers like that of Modric.

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  • Joe Toon

    May 20, 2008 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #16

    Bill F

    What planet are you from, Dunne is a top class experienced center half! He has proven this for the last 4 seasons! Admittedly he isn’t the quickest in the business but his reading of the game makes up for it! If there is one thing that certainly cannot be questioned is his bottle.

    However, i would really like to see us sign Dunne. Unfortunately I think that maybe he will be overlooked this summer, not so much for his age, but his lack of pace, and more importantly because both Taylor and Faye are of a similar mould.

    Cueller would be a very solid aquisition

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  • The Entertainers

    May 20, 2008 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #17

    I think out of all the defenders linked to us, i would do for Metzhelder at Madrid. He is not getting regular games and will not be first choice next season. linked up with fellow German Gomez would be great and i see no problem in a North European settling in. As for Celluar, it just reminds me of Boumsong! Was’nt he player of the season for the Gers before we offered too much money to gain his services.

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  • Bill F

    May 20, 2008 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #18

    Joe toon I will agree he is experienced but the term “top class centre half” is an oxymoron as far as I am concerned. Just watch him when a shot is coming at him, he flinches most of the time and turns his back on the ball.

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  • Rem

    May 20, 2008 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #19

    the older the better when it comes to CB

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  • CRAIGG

    May 20, 2008 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #20

    Well i think he is better than what we have currently.

    I will support whoever comes in whether it be Bramble or Luque returning or moves for Danny Mills and Andy Todd on £60k a week each.

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  • ToonPhill

    May 20, 2008 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #21

    remember last time we stated that a defender was to old for us? *cough* campbell. 🙂 i personally wouldnt mind dunne

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  • african-kenyan-ronniezog

    May 20, 2008 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #22

    Get dunne

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  • Ashton

    May 20, 2008 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #23

    Get Amorebieta

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  • irish_al

    May 20, 2008 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #24

    i dont think dunne is too old but i dont think he is that good, he needs someone with pace beside him, faye is on par if not better than dunne, we need someone more cultured to play along side him

    we have the defenders to attack the ball in faye and taylor but need someone to sweep up around them and play the ball, someone to complement our current centre backs and get more out of them as you have with

    ferdinand to vidic
    carvalho to terry
    woodgate to whoever

    not sure who it should be but i wouldnt say dunne would offer an improvement on faye may be slightly better than taylor, with richards out injured dunne has look far from impressive

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  • Nick Dryden

    May 20, 2008 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #25

    I think whether we like it or not for the first time in a decade since the debacle of Shepeherd’s reign, the club is being run properly. It is going to be painful, but it is unsustainable to have an endless procession of 27/28/29 year olds on huge fees and even bigger salaries on long term contracts a la Owen, Luque, Duff , Smith, Boumsong et al. I think Kadar in particular is going to be an absolute diamond, as I suspect will be Tozer. If we want new players, get them on the up, when they are hungry and emerging like Kompany, Amoriebietta and Barzagli. In house already, Edgar and Lua are not too far away either.
    Dunne is OK, but not outstanding and that should be the benchmark.

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  • Jesus of Nazareth

    May 20, 2008 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #26

    Has this been mentioned in the press or is this the authors opinion. I can’t believe someone with Prem experience could be classed as too old at 28.

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  • iain

    May 20, 2008 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #27

    the press do sound stupid when one day there saying keegan has no money then the next that we are going to buy a more expensive player when we could buy a cheaper one.

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  • Ed_Dub

    May 20, 2008 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #28

    Bill F and Joe Toon.

    Dunne is far quicker then most would give him credit for. He is a proven premiership centre half and probably willing to go to Newcastle.
    He has worked with Kev before at City, Chris Houghton with Ireland and knows Given and Duff. It would be easy for him to settle in.

    To say he is too old is madness, most centre-halves can easily play into their mid-thirties at the top level.

    I would love for us to sign him, he would add a lot of calm and leadership to our back line, that it simply doesn’t have.

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  • TooooooN

    May 20, 2008 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #29

    Too old my a**. he is just the right defender for us – premiership experience,international player and 28 years old is not that old. look at campbell, we miss signing him and look at how strong pompey! why can’t just sign young wonderkids which may or may not succeed.

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  • HeronMag

    May 20, 2008 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #30

    I’m a big believer in following the opinions of the fans who watch footballers week-in-week-out. Richard Dunne has been Man City’s player of the year twice – that’s not an easy thing to achieve considering some of the players they’ve had over the years.

    How many other centre halfs can you think of at other clubs that have won player of the year? I’d take the punt on this lad. He’s proven quality. Dunne and Faye/Taylor would be a solid looking back two.

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  • Macca

    May 20, 2008 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #31

    This is ridiculous. I know, lets go buy a cheap, young, extremely talented experienced defender..oh wait, they don’t exist. It’s the idiotic thinking like that.
    He’s been Man City player for what, 4 years in a row, and Irish player of the year as well.
    Players who’ve played with or against him have said that hes’ as good as Terry or Ferdinand, but no, lets leave him, he’s too old apparently. No wonder people think this club is a joke.

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  • Lawman

    May 20, 2008 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #32

    i’d rather have Cuellar. Not cos he’s younger (albeit by just 2 years) but just a better all round player. Plus, we all know how inflated a player’s price is just because he’s English and plays for a premeirship team. Comparing Cuellar with Boumsong is stupid. Boumsong wasn’t even great for Rangers when we bought him. You have to remember who bought Boumsong!!!! Yes, the great long term friend of Sir david Murray that is Souness. Talk about doing your mate a favour! Not only did we take over Ranger’s deadwood but paid them £8m for the priviledge. Cuellar is different – he’s actually performed (really) well for Rangers.

    Also, I really don’t know what Wise is doing there. Look at Manure! If Fergie want a big player, they send their CHIEF EXECUTIVE David Gill to lead discussion.

    Likewise Chelsea, they send their CHIEF EXECUTIVE Peter Kenyon. Not so sure about Keith Edelman but David Dein used to lead transfer talks for Arsenal. Even Celtic sends Peter Lawell their Chief Executive ffs.

    Who do WE send???? Dennis Wise, our Executive Director. Not even an Executive Director of NUFC, but an Executive Director of just Football AT NUFC. If I was a player being targetted by all the above clubs, I would be given an impression of NUFC as being the least sincere in wanting to sign me by sending a “lowly” executive director of football who is SUPPOSSEDLY answerable to KK and not the other way round – so effectively a subordinate of even the Manager!!!! So I don’t even get to speak to the Chief Executive or even the manager!!! Do they want me or not????

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  • Bill F

    May 20, 2008 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #33

    I can’t help thinking that a lot of ManU fans probably voted for Dunne as a joke. I also think that there must be the same people who vote for Smith as our best player must be the ones backing Dunne. I think it’s a joke if people think he would be a good buy. He might have been a reasonable player once but I don’t think he is what we want or need. Sorry if anyone finds this offensive but I really think he is potentially worse than Bramble, Boumsong, Marcellino and all the other misfits we have had. I’ve had my fill of discussing him and will go to sleep whenever he is mentioned from now on.

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  • Leo

    May 20, 2008 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #34

    i honestly think abdolaye faye is better than dunne, quellar would be a good player to sign similar to faye in his technique but has better positional sence.

    dunne isnt my cup of tea

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  • Bill F

    May 20, 2008 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #35

    As for the current Spuds zenophobia, isn’t it getting a bit over the top. Any number of clubs were interested in Modric and they had the nous to get him, it was bloo*y annoying but we do not have to start a blood feud over it. As long as we beat them whenever we play them and finish above them ( and most of the other teams) then I will be happy. Pax footballis gentlemen.

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  • CRAIGG

    May 20, 2008 at 4:56 PM

    Comment #36

    The reason that Smith didnt win our player of the year is because the majority would vote for Beye, Faye or Harper.

    The reason that Dunne won the Man City player of the year is that Man City fans who see him week in, week out voted for him, Just a few Man Utd fans having a laugh couldnt beat the majority of a club which has a 40,000+ gate.

    A number of fine consistent performances resulted in Richard Dunne receiving Manchester City’s Player of the Year award for 2004/05, which he also won in 2005-6, 2006-7 and 2007-8 seasons becoming the first person to win City’s P.O.T.Y award four times.

    Manchester City teammate Micah Richards said: “Ever since I’ve come to this club Richard has just been quality. I play with him week in, week out and I think he’s one of the best players I’ve played with. I’ve played with John Terry and Rio Ferdinand in the England squad but Richard is right up there with them.”

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  • tapir

    May 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #37

    Just sign someone!

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  • Toooooooooooooooooon

    May 21, 2008 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #38

    cuelar is good but only at scottish league…dunne is a proven premiership experience defender….

    Cuelar might took a while to settle but Dunne would settle easily…if not dunne then who else we could sign? anton ferdinand? upson?

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