Good Time For Clear Out At Newcastle

With Emre on the verge of leaving Newcastle, and Damien Duff probably on his way to Sunderland, Newcastle fans may be getting a little agitated at what’s going on at the club.


Mike Ashley with fans – he knows what he’s doing

But we think the board is doing a good job of clearing the decks at the club of fringe players, and as long as Kevin Keegan is kept in the loop, we see nothing wrong with what the club is doing right now.

There’s no doubt Duff and Emre are good players, but with all their injuries over the last couple of years, it’s hard to make a case that they’ve been worth the wages Newcastle pay them, which is a lot.

We think the Newcastle board are simply moving out fringe players, particularly those on high wages, so we are ready for the incoming new players.

In the summer we expect Alan Smith to be added to the list of players leaving, because he is number 4 striker at the club right now, if you put him ahead of young Andy Carroll (and we wouldn’t), and it’s certain that Kevin will bring in another top class striker this summer. Maybe Peter Crouch or Bafe Gomis.

So as long as we can get our £6M back for Alan, which we paid to Man United last summer, he’ll also be on his way.

So players we expect to leave or have already left the club are:

Carr, Ramage, Diatta, Troisi, Emre, Duff, Ameobi and Smith.

That’s 8 players from the first team squad.

Players we don’t want to lose include Charles N’Zogbia and James Milner, simply because they are good, young and improving, and their current contracts were negotiated by the current regime last September, so we assume they are reasonable and within the new guidelines.

We’d also want to keep Michael Owen and Steven Taylor, but the club seem to be moving out some high wage earners so they can pay Owen and Taylor what they want – or at least once they know who is left, what they can adequately pay them, within the new wage limits.

That means 8 players will move out, and we have at least five new youngsters who will be in the first team squad next season in Forster, Edgar, Tozer, LuaLua and Kadar, and if we can get 5 new players in during the sumer then it will be 8 gone and 10 in. So if we rely on the youngsters filling out the first team squad and we bring 5 new top players in we should be just fine.

And the money we get from Emre, Duff and Smith (maybe £17M) will fund new transfers of players coming in.

We’ll still have a small squad, but hopefully the quality will be much improved from last season, and the new players we get will have decent injury free records at their previous clubs.

Looking at it that way , there’s definite method in the madness – well that’s probably not the best way of putting it – but there’s a definite plan behind what is happening.

Stay tuned, the Newcastle club is being well run these days, with some good thought given to the overall finances of the club – which of course will come as a shock to a lot of us, who were used to Shepherd’s reckless business model, that achieved very little success at the club.

We welcome a change, and we think it will be for the better.   😀

We’ll be OK – you just watch.

Comments welcome.

284 comments so far

  • najikhin

    Jun 1, 2008 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #1

    ok..i admit i was panic just now..

  • ObaFan2

    Jun 1, 2008 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #2

    So many players leaving, KK said he had a good small squad and wanted to add 2-3-4 players !!!!!!

    If KK hadn’t been manager I’d be really worried now but I am worried about the rest of them, MA and the “r-squad” etc.

    We just have to wait and see who we get in, one minute KK wants EPL proven players and then rumours about non epl players coming in!!!

    Always knew this summer’s transfers will speak volumes about the direction of the club, I only hope that direction is onwards and upwards.

  • Tom_Toon

    Jun 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #3

    Who in gods name is gonna give us 6 mil for alan smith, i wouldnt give you 6p for him to be my personal shoe polisher.

  • The Entertainers

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #4

    Patients is something as Newcastle fans we should be good at…..40 odd years and counting. However there appears to be alot of panicing at the moment. I agree Ed with your comments, particularly about the players you would like out and the ones you would keep. By the way when does the transfer window open?

  • Graham

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #5

    Ed – you do realise you’re gonna get a load of posts here slagging “tight arse Ashley” for not spending his very last penny on new players within weeks of the season ending.

    I for one agree with everything you have said. We don’t necessarily need a massive squad this coming season – we couldn’t keep them all happy with no European football anyway.

    The club is now being run in a proffessional manner for the first time in years and its long term future is a hell of a lot brighter than it was 12 months ago with NUFC almost going belly up into administration under Shepherd.

    As I have said already today, the signings will come but a lot of newcastle fans have a knack of being unrealistically impatient which only piles undue pressure on the players and manager.

    Lets just get behind everyone at the club, whether its Ashley, Wise, Keegan etc. We are, after all Newcastle UNITED!

  • ToonKing

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #6

    i’d give 10p for Smithy and then take him out for long walks in the park…..after all he does draw the ladies…..

    PS: nice post Graham…….but i’m still in panic mode….and will be till something happens….this utter silence form the club isn’t helping either.

  • Graham

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #7

    ToonKing – relax man. Why dont you become manager of Real Madrid as well on FM and sell Smith to them for £25m?

    Seriously – I am more relaxed this summer than during the past 3 or 4 close seasons. We have a manager who knows the club inside out and an owner whos not as daft – or as tight as some people think

  • ObaFan2

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #8

    “The club is now being run in a proffessional manner”

    but we haven’t even re-newed contacts for Owen, Oba or Taylor yet ( if these are to be re-newed that is) and weeks/months have passed !!!!

  • craig chisholm

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #9

    yeah i have to agree with tom toon – smith is proper dog shit. i reckon we may find a mug to give us around 3 million for him if we are mega lucky. i hope we get some f**king players in though. i think viduka is fat and lazy and thats a fact. i am a season ticket holder and all last season we were all saying to ourselves that he is just too damn lethargic. now granted, he has natural ability and is very good at holding the ball up, his ball work helped owen and marins laot when he played. doesnt get over the fact that he is fat and lazy though. i would like to see crouch brought in in viduka’s place.
    i think that would be a massive step in the right direction. we need to keep zogs on the left for sure. also we should keep milner. i like barton a lot but with him doing porridge for a while i just do not know if he will make it back – who knows. so we need a proper play maker in the mid field. risse could be good at the back i think or bridge. either one would be a step in the right direction. but we have to get shot of duffers, smith, emre, ameobi and cacapa and rozza. i liked rozza at the start but he just faded away in the end.

  • neeraj

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #10

    summer clearout was always on the card

    remember harper’s statement stating- “every player is playing for their newcastle career”.
    i am sure 20 mil is also just a media gimmick, nothing else
    look the kind of players we got approval for
    mordic(16 mil), henry 15 mil at the same time.

    i am damn sure the good times are going to comeback.

    and guys who are worried of keegan not involved or unhappy with summer transactions, he would have given a statement by now!!!

  • é

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #11

    our team next season

    sergio ramos, ferdinand, vidic, abidal
    ronaldo, fabregas, gerrard, messi
    torres, ibrahimovic

    subs. adebayor, cech, terry, kaka, lampard

  • Graham

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #12

    But their contract have another year to run – its not as thought they’re about to walk out of the door.

    Talks have begun (if you believe the press) for both players – and I reckon that both players (especially Taylor want to stay long term)

  • é

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #13

    buffon – 30mil
    serigio ramos 25mil
    ferdinand 30mil
    vidic 30mil
    abidal 15mil
    ronaldo 100mil
    fabregas 45mil
    gerrard 30mil
    messi 40mil
    torres 35mil
    ibrahimovic 25mil
    adebayor 25mil
    cech 25mil
    terry 25mil
    kaka 30mil
    lampard 25mil


  • ObaFan2

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #14

    ha ha a year left on their contracts cool.

  • T.O.Mag

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #15

    We need a clear out, but please keep Milner, N’Zog and Taylor

  • Hadrian

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #16

    I think keegan has wanted to keep hold of the majority of this squad .
    but after showdowns in london he’s having to change his plan’s and work within the boundrys that have been set (whatever they are)
    clearing out these high earners is fine , duff is on a reported 60-70k ? emre a similar number , carr was on far to much , as is smith .
    james milner is a puzzle , surely he will be on the same wage as zoggy like reported? cant be much more than 30kpw , so im not so why he would be offloaded .

    so great , now we have the dead wood on high wages out and the wage bill reduced , who gets to say where those wages are now spent ?
    managers should have complete control of the budget , transfers and wages , if keegan want one english player and wise could get two africans there is going tobe a conflict of interests , and who benefits from this ? the fan’s?
    half the appeal with keegan is his work in the transfer market ! this wise thing is not looking like its going to turn out well .

  • Graham

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #17

    Obafan2 – most players will still be lying on beaches or roasting the local glamour models until mid June anyway. So theres no chance of much progress for the next few weeks on any new contracts

  • Hadji

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #18

    By the time the market opens we will have all the bad apples dumped and then we will only focus on buying new players without wasting any time in selling.
    Good move MA

  • Chris F

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #19

    couldn’t agree more, Graham.

    what this site really needs is a forum section, because it’s beginning to get tiresome seeing the same people saying the same thing in every single comments section.

    frankly, it’s getting to the point where it’s putting me off reading some of the articles, because i know that if i do leave a comment, it’ll be lost in the mire amongst all the “ashley is tight” “why haven’t we signed anyone yet?” “we’re gonna be crap” posts.

    facts of the matter, gentlemen, it’s June 1st. The season only ended 2 weeks ago and the transfer window doesn’t open for another month.

    we have already made moves for players, we know this because the facts are there (ie modric, henry) but wild speculation isn’t going to bring in new signings.

    why do you need to hear reassurances so badly from the club? we’ve had them before in the past, and l0ook where it got us: inflated player prices, agents touting our name about as a means to bump up their clients fees and wages.

    Frankly, i’ll be glad to go back to the old days where the business is done in the board room behind closed doors, and not on the back pages of the f*cking Chronicle.

    Lay off the doom and gloom, get some perspective and stop bloody whinging, because you’re starting to turn this place into Caughtoffside.

  • najikhin

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #20

    Graham.. take fla-money as an example..

  • Hadrian

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #21

    transfer markets open init ?

  • Graham

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #22

    najikhin – you been drinking? take fla-money? explain, i must be having a blonde day

  • iain

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #23

    if we got our money back on emre/duff/smith i would be exstatic and honestly surprised anyone could be that daft too pay that for those 3.

    + about 200kpw of the wage bill, imo on 15m quid signing on 100kpw wages would be more use to us then thsoe 3.

  • Graham

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #24

    Not till July 1st Hadrian

  • Tom_Toon

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #25

    For gods sake, you can buy anyone whenever you want and considering its the euros this year, now is the time to buy!

  • Barry Bumhead

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #26

    “Players we don’t want to lose include Charles N’Zogbia and James Milner”

    As far as Milners concered, speak for yourself. The lad tries his best but is a one paced plodder and not a very fast one at that. I say grab what cash you can get for him

  • Chris F

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #27

    well, players can be bought and sold, deals can be done, but the player registrations can’t be transferred between clubs until july 1st.

    it’s not technically a transfer window, as much as it is a registration window in that sense, but transfer window is easier for a more general audience to understand.

  • najikhin

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #28

    graham…it’s flamini actually..he is on a free transfer..because arsenal failed to tie him before his contract expires..

  • ObaFan2

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #29

    KK wanted Owen’s contract sorted months ago !!!! also how’d he be on the beach when he was supposed to be playing last Wednesday and tonight? So he’s been about !!!!!!!!

    I don’t get wrapped up in the transfer rumour stuff but I am reacting to facts.

    TBH I aint that bothered about Owen bit I am bothered when KK has said on a number of occasions that he wanted a new contact sorted for Owen asap and so far he hasn’t had that happen. So fact is SO FAR he’s not getting backed.

    I believed the transfer window opened at the end of the season, FA cup day I believed however pre-contracts seem the norm…. Modric for example.

  • Chris F

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #30

    catch 22, tom.

    pre-tournament may be the best time to buy players who shall be involved, but their clubs will be less willing to sell then, which is the problem.

    look at 12 years ago when we bought shearer after euro96. you can bet we had tried to get him beforehand, but i bet we didn’t bid half as much as we ended up paying.

  • Tom_Toon

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #31

    Im not stupid.

  • Graham

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #32

    yeah – he’s been about with the england squad on international duty. Taylor has just changed his agent and will have to start from scratch again.

    These new deals will happen – but 2 weeks after the season ends most managers, players etc etc etc are taking a break. Things will start to move in a week or 2

  • toonoholic

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #33

    and wats ur take on owen, oba ( new one) and taylor contract not getting sorted out chris f?

    maybe owen and oba might want more than 80 k , but taylor wont be asking for more than 40 !

  • Chris F

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #34

    my take on it?

    well how do any of us know they aren’t in discussions?

    it’s not like it will happen overnight, they’ve got 6 months before they need to start worrying about them being able to discuss terms with other clubs (and almost a year before they can discuss with other english clubs).

    and Tom, i never said you were stupid, i was merely pointing out that you won’t see many deals for players involved in Euro2008 until after their country is elimated, or the tournament is over.

  • ObaFan2

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:55 PM

    Comment #35

    So it’s OK for us to sell before the Euros, Emre but we can’t buy before them! lol

    and Graham, for the last time KK said MONTHS ago that he wanted Owen’s contact sorted out so he could build his team around him, not last week or the week before.

  • scott9

    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #36

    i rekon roy keane wud jump at the chance of havin alan smith in his sqaud so wud alot of other bottom half teams so i think we cud get at least 4m for him.i wud like to see
    alves/dunne i no its now unlikely
    gomis is a player i wud realy like to see i think he cud become a great player for us


    Jun 1, 2008 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #37

    whats the deal on emmaulson from Ajax these days? always liked him and he can cover at left back and midfield and young?

  • John

    Jun 1, 2008 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #38

    ObaFan2 I think the reason for selling Emre before euro’s is the likleyhood he will be crocked for about 6 months after that tournament and we wont get nothing…Only reason we sold him before Euro’s

  • toonoholic

    Jun 1, 2008 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #39

    chris F , we do need they are on discussions.
    the worrying factor is , neither have we heard about an agreement or a disagreement of the contract.
    And if you own a club , and if ur player disagrees to renew the contract and you wont offer him a new contract , would you offload ur player ( like owen and taylor) for free or try and get a price for them one year before itself?or push them till december and ‘hope’ ?

    so we have every reason to panic about this board , if not transfers , atleast contract renegotiation


    Jun 1, 2008 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #40

    or cos they were the only team who would buy him!

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