No Chance Of Carroll Joining Derby County


News today, on several football sites, reporting that Derby County are interested in signing 19 year-old Newcastle striker Andrew Carroll.

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Andy Carroll – 19 year-old striker is a top Newcastle prospect

Derby County manager Paul Jewell is said to want the England Under-19 star to boost his strike-force for next season, in the Championship.

That doesn’t surprise us that Jewell would be interested, but Newcastle would hardly be willing to sell one of their most promising local young players.

With Rob Earnshaw leaving Derby for Nottingham Forest, and Kenny Miller heading back to Glasgow Rangers, the Daily Mail reports that Jewell is focusing on youth.

Jewell has only recently given up on his bid to sign 28 year-old Rob Hulse from Sheffield United but we would say there is zero chance of Derby getting Andy Carroll.

The best chance Derby have is to get Newcastle to let them have Carroll on loan.

But the youngster was looking good at the end of last season, and is ready to overtake Alan Smith in the pecking order at St. James’ Park, and be the club’s 4th striker behind Owen, Martins and Viduka.

However, we do expect another top striker to be signed this summer by the Magpies.

Since Kevin Keegan is still likely to play 4-3-3 next season, the youngster could still get some good playing time at St. James’ Park, if he continues to show the same vast improvement he’s made over the last two seasons.

We’re not sure manager Kevin Keegan would even agree to allowing Andy to go out on loan, even for half a season.

Keegan is a big admirer of the 6’3″ striker, who shows all the signs of becoming a top player, and the youngster can learn a lot from Kevin.

Andy can indeed become very successful at Newcastle, but he must keep his head down, and his feet firmly on the ground.

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31 comments so far

  • HeronMag

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #1

    I would let him go out on loan with a clause that upon demand he returns to St James. Simple. He gets experience, we keep the player in the long term.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #2

    Why not, he doesnt look very good.

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  • John

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #3

    Don’t really seem what the big deal is with this kid…He has never convinced me that he will make it as a quality striker in the prem..

    Ok he has scored some goals in reserve but so did Francis Jeffers..IMO If a decent offer came in like 2 mill or so , i’d take it.

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  • Nev

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #4

    hes only rated coz hes a local boy , hasnt looked sharp when hes been in the first team , and was shocking for preston NE
    i would accept a reasonable bid
    just coz he scores in the reserves doesnt make him brilliant
    i agree with michael owen that he is very similar to neil mellor formerly of liverpool

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  • Kash2

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #5

    Totally raw player, needs playing time in smaller league for confidence, a bit like the Arsenal lad who played for Brummies in Championship. Maybe he’ll come back a better player!

    We NEED midfielders!

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  • Kash2

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #6

    @Tom_toon: Saw this guy play for Poland yesterday in the CM, looked pretty good and got about quite a bit against what I thought to be a strong German midfield. Any ideas who he is?

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #7

    Dudka, Lewandowski, Gargula (dont think he played)?

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  • Leo

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #8

    well for all those who dont rate him just remember that when he becomes a top striker which i really think he will.

    he needs to go on loan and get first team all season, he would improve massively if that happens

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  • Kash2

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #9

    Not sure, which one he was but was a fairly big lad, and very mobile. Reminded me of a Gerrard type player!

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  • Kash2

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #10

    Could have been Dudka, not sure!

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  • 51times

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #11

    You fools, if you don’t give the youth a chance what’s the point in having an academy?

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #12

    was he bald and had lots of shots from outside the area?

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  • broon ale

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #13

    its a shame that having seen andy play several times i dont think he is going to make it.

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  • Kash2

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #14

    Not sure mate, the mrs was chewing my ear while I was watching, so only got to watch about 20 minutes solidly. Thats when I saw him. Pointless anyway!

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  • Davies

    Jun 9, 2008 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #15

    Whether he’s going to make it or not, Martins and Viduka are likely to sit out the early part of the season. Would you rather have Smith up front if that happens?

    No. Of course you wouldn’t.

    I think that he could be a loaner for the second half of the season, but with Michael Owen the only first choice striker available, we need this young man, even if we do sign another striker between now and then.

    What happens if Owen gets injured again?

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  • ToonKing

    Jun 9, 2008 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #16

    yeah both Dudka and Lewandowski played well yeasterday, i’d have Lewandoski out of the 2.

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  • Przemekdwa

    Jun 9, 2008 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #17

    Lobodzinki played very well but i dont think he is good enough.dudka is looking for a new club and his worth about 2mln pound.lewandowski is good but also not cheap.szachtar want 7mln euro for him.

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  • cooldj

    Jun 9, 2008 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #18

    tom toon

    as in lukasz gargula? didn’t know he was that well known-thought he was my little secret but oh well! solid player imo, would be good at a smallish prem club as CM.

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  • steve

    Jun 9, 2008 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #19

    Ameobi was/is better than Carrol, I agree that if he wasn’t a local lad we’d all be saying let him go

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  • Geordie Nick

    Jun 9, 2008 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #20

    what has andy carroll done for evryone to think so highly of him?????? he scores in reserves but wasnt very gd at preston and hasnt done anything when hes played for our first team!!! its true tht if he wasnt a local evryone wud be willing to get rid, hes not goin to make it as a top player so i wudnt be bother at all if he went

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  • Spot The Zebra

    Jun 9, 2008 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #21

    Andy Carroll is a fine prospect but unfortunately because we arent playing Championship Manager 2008 he will need time to fulfill his true potential.I cant believe people are dismissing this kid who so obviously has all the credentials to become a top class centre forward for us.He is a far better option than Ameobi and Alan Smith next season thats for sure.

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  • Obafan

    Jun 9, 2008 at 7:30 PM

    Comment #22

    Don’t rate him that high. I think it is normal that local players are getting fully support, but I think that those players (Taylor, Milner, now Carroll) are too often judged not on their performances but on their local status.

    e.g. Comparing Geremi and Milner; the stats all say that Geremi was the most useful of the 2, but still some here think Milner is 50x better than Geremi, which is absolutely not the case.

    To write off Carroll is just a bit too soon IMO, but indeed his performances were not from such a high level to call him the best striker for the future. Let him get another chance (flopped at Preston NE) during a loan spell, but if he fails again I think it is time to consider every bid that will be made for him.

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  • Punk Skunk

    Jun 9, 2008 at 7:47 PM

    Comment #23

    Milner ain’t local, he’s fromt’yorkshire mate!..

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  • Dog drinker

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #24

    He’s not good enough for Preston NE but some of you’s think he’ll make it with the Toon? Sell sell sell! The boy’s never goin to be a top striker – he’s hardly got a goal record to be proud of. If we get a million for him I’d carry him to Derby meself.

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  • Rams fan

    Jun 10, 2008 at 7:40 AM

    Comment #25

    You all seem split on whether you want him or not. Judging by the above comments, I would have him down here at Pride Park to see if he is make or break, sounds like a good gamble to take, either on loan or permanent transfer. A massive rebuilding programme is taking place down here and we need all on board who can help the cause and this guy could be one for now or the future by the sound of things.

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  • clinta

    Jun 10, 2008 at 8:11 AM

    Comment #26

    Out on loan seems the best bet for us and the lad, didn’t miller play for celtic in the past not rangers ed?

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  • Ian

    Jun 10, 2008 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #27

    I would sell him, 0 out of 10 for effort in the first team, dont wait for him to prove he is no good, he will be worth nothing if we do that.

    Carroll I feel is one of those players if sold who may waken up and realise he might have to go and find a proper job like the rest of us and then show what he can do, unfortunately as long as he is at Newcastle i think he will show us nothing in the first team.

    If we are worried that we need him to stand in for injuries, then I would worry more about him then Smith, so sell him and bring in an additional striker who is very cheap, old but will put the effort in and may score like Jason Roberts, hopefully never needed, otherwise we should have kept Ameobi as a last resort striker.

    I would pin our hopes on fabio developing this season and maybe getting one or two first team starts.

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  • The Entertainers

    Jun 10, 2008 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #28

    I think its to soon to write off Carroll, who is only 18-19 years old. How many times in the past have we been criticised for not bring thorough young local talent.

    But having said that i think this season is a huge one for Carroll. He failed at Preston, his own doing by all accounts. So this season he needs to find a mid-level Championship team at worst and start scoring goals.

    Not quite reading imo for the first team squad here at the Toon, but lets wait and see, what have we got to lose?

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  • Ian

    Jun 10, 2008 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #29

    the entertainers – our place in the premiership (what have we got to lose)

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  • Obafan

    Jun 10, 2008 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #30

    Punk Skunk – Maybe he is, I really don’t care. It is just the fact that Geremi was more important for us than Milner, but he doesn’t get the deserved credit.

    Come on Liverpool launch a good bid that we can’t refuse so we get rid of this overrated winger.

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  • CRAIGG

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #31

    Obafan

    Is this a nationality thing because you fail to see any flaws in Geremis obvioulsy below average game and unless it escaped your attention N’Zogbia also hits the first man with every cross, Scores less than Milner and causes loads of trouble as he moans constantly about leaving Unlike Jimmy who is a perfect lad yet Zog escapes your critisism WHY ??

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